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Hi /pol/. I’m a long time lurker here training to be a psychotherapist. Specifically, I’ve chosen this path because the field is dominated by HR women who are legitimately retarded. Talking to many of these women will make your problems much worse.

That being said, I do believe that therapy practiced similarly to how it was initially conceived in the 20th century, can actually be helpful. I chose to enter this field to help people like us, who are generally mistrustful of institutions and, rightfully, would struggle to find an adequate therapist they needed one.

I’m making this post to get a feel for how you all view therapy, whether you’d ever go if it wasn’t a fat woman therapist, and what you would want out of therapy. Thanks.
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>>522548758
While you havd good intentions, the reason therapists are so expensive is how often they get sued, often losing their licensing. You need hefty insurance or Karen will destroy your life and your ability to legally help people. Plus the student loans are prohibitly expensive.
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>>522548758
Hey
I have experience with 3 therapists. 2/3 were female and the 1 that was the worst was the man. He was some fucking laurentian valley elite who went to an Ivy league in the USA and thought he was amazing but could never apply his knowledge to actually helping people.
>Multi Combat Tour SOF Veteran.
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I dont even know what therapy is supposed to achieve. how vocalizations become transcendent from the unarticulated recesses of the mind into something constructive. whats the point? someone talks until they have a realization?
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>>522548758
I just go for all the prescriptions I get
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>>522550443
anyway i dont believe in therapy. i dont think theres a solution for pain and suffering. meditation and prayer may allieviate the acute symptoms but they dont solve the underlying stress
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Psychology is jewish pseudoscience. Unironically astrology has more legitimacy.
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>>522550354
>Multi Combat Tour SOF Veteran
Is it the training, or the combat that causes all the problems? I met an ex SOF guy once and he never mentioned deployment but said he wakes up with nightmares all the time
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>>522548758
Psychiatry is a kosher grift. It exists to subdue the human spirit in favor of a sinister Tower of Babel project.
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>>522548758
why anyone at 4chan need therapy?
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>>522550519
Yes. I suffer from nightmares. I have trouble staying asleep and getting to sleep.
The male therapist I had was kind of retarded (and this guy went to a god damn ivy league school in the USA). Just kept reiterating the basic "sleep hygiene" bs of not napping in the day and going to bed at the same time. Found a female therapist with "only a masters degree" that had me do nightmare rescripting and it has really helped.
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>>522550575
Yes. That’s why I’m not training to be a psychiatrist
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>>522550702
Put you to sleep with a left hook faggot bitch leaf
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>>522550702
EMDR can help a lot with PTSD as well
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>>522550519
Mostly its from combat. But some of it is how I was treated on my way out of the military even though I was a decorated soldier. It sucks from being considered the top 20% of your unit then being treated like a POS after you have deployed multiple times and have some issues.
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>>522548758
Went because insurance had a few counseling sessions for free. Wanted an outside opinion on a decision. Five minutes after introduction she took a call from her interior designer and it lasted 20 minutes. Then she talked about her decorating and that was it. Saw her again in her new office and she gave no advice and acted like it was a bother. I then worked a long time to get a masters in psychology and dropped it 30 credits to go. It was stupid. Easy and stupid and I was bored. I don't need a perspective from anyone anymore. If I need to know something like personality disorder in depth to expand my knowledge of the human condition I just watch Vadkin. I didn't find out what her perspective was on my relationship but I did learn a 54yo lady hires interior designers. A mousy little woman in a paisley chair. I think she was more fucked up than I ever was.
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>>522550753
kek, you gay, that make you feel better?
>>522550784
I did a mix of EMDR and Prolonged exposure. Still have issues with sleeping tho.
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>>522548758
I went to one recently and it was a shorter type guy who noticed that I noticed he was short and breathed a sigh of relief and this somehow triggered him to out of the blue say "punching, punching, punching, punching" a bunch of times for no reason, like an insane person and when I looked at him askance he seemed satisfied with the response. His next few sentences of introduction included something very much like this, "Im usually busy treating professional people" another dig and I'd just walked through the door and barely said a word. lol.
Most of the counselors Ive seen Ive ended up having to counsel.
"You're a good counselor!"
"You can do it!"
"You're a good psychologist / psychiatrist!"
"You're the best Ive ever had! The best! Honest!! Dont kill yourself, it's okay!"

Hope this helps.
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>>522550876
Sorry to hear bro. Got a good friend who was Canadian special forces. Similar issues. All the best
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>>522548758
>I’m making this post to get a feel for how you all view therapy,

Poorly. It seems like a leftist pastime and a giant grift, where narcissists self-diagnose with new mental illnesses to attention whore, and pay tons of their parents money to talk to their buddy/therapist every month.

> whether you’d ever go if it wasn’t a fat woman therapist,

I have no plans to go to a therapist because I have no mental health issues I'm aware of. I also have no plans to see a gastroenterologist. The idea that everyone should be in therapy is pushed by trendy, hyperprivileged neoliberals. I doubt even most therapists would say that EVERYONE should be in therapy.

> and what you would want out of therapy

Nothing. I have no need for that service.

I do believe therapists do important work for some people with serious conditions like PTSD or schizophrenia or whatever. Mental illnesses are real, but it seems most therapy enjoyers are rich kids abusing their Adderall prescription.

That being said, I still have a dim view. I took a psychology class in college and I found it to be complete & total pseudoscience. In the first class, the teacher mentioned Freud and how we've moved past his outdated ideas... only to spend the rest of the course talking about Ego and Id and consciousness and other wishy-washy, poorly defined terms.

Neuroscience is where it's at. It's objective. They can actually point to specific neurotransmitters that don't work which can impact this part of the brain in this manner, etc.
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>>522548758
>That being said, I do believe that therapy practiced similarly to how it was initially conceived in the 20th century, can actually be helpful
By Freud? You've gotta be kidding.
Counselling is good. Therapy - as a "science" and profession - is a minefield of nonsense. Most of Freudianism is the projection of incest-molested Jews on the rest of humanity. Since you're requesting our opinions -
a) cognitive behavioral therapy has been shown to have benefits. It seems legit, just not the be all and end all.
b) at this point in time, I think I would only ever consider a male Christian counsellor/psychologist - or an Orthodox therapist/psychologist and MAYBE a Catholic one.

To truly be a truly great therapist, you need Logos and an understanding of the spiritual.

I recommend this Orthodox priestmonk's talk on the subject of pyschology, therapy, depression, anxiety etc:
https://www.orthodoxtalks.com/talk-31-does-christianity-really-cause-guilt-depression-and-despair/
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9muwaq-Nabg&pp=0gcJCR4Bo7VqN5tD

After that, if you can stomach it, I recommend Demonic Foes by Catholic psychiatrist Richard Gallagher, about the extremely rare cases where the ailment is not psychological, but demonic possession or oppression.
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>>522550931
No worries. I have a great therapist now through the OSI clinic. Actually planning on relocating to the USA. I just don't have much in common with the average leaf anymore. Everyone here has gone nuts.
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>>522550876
just don’t sleep,that’s what i do. fuck therapy, it’s jewish nonsense
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>>522550986
I’m an occultist but not Christian. Christianity is a jew virus designed to make you revel in weakness.
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>>522551015
It can sort of help. More like manages you being in a shit situation that cant change.
Columbian huh? Sounds like you fought the cartels and commies?
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>>522550973
Anon has a great point here.
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>>522550737
So you want to be a talk therapist who doesn't deal in meds but you think the lens through which your academic discipline views emotion/cognition/behavior is appropriate for neurodivergent folk? You do realize that scientism is a faith and social science has no utility beyond its own government sanctioned language game, right? You think the toads you work with have something stronger than the wisdom of ancient humanists, shamans, artists, visionaries, and so on? Are you being funny?
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>>522548758
My HMO provides "therapy." My ex-wife and I went for mirage counseling and the retard literally gave us a retarded book called Men ar from Mars and Women are from Venus. I think it is a grift. I know no one who has ever been helped by one.
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>>522551217
I don’t think that science is more useful than the wisdom of ancient humanists or mystics. Not at all. I have a bachelor’s in philosophy and most of my opinions have been shaped by the traditions you’re referring to. I’m on your side mate
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>>522550503
>patterns in behavior of the human brain aren't real because I can't measure a personality molecule in a beaker
Always funny to see a subhuman sperg brain in action.
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I was deemed unhelpable by two therapists.

Trauma induced by working in the Medical Environment coupled with spectrum disorder and an acute attention to detail made therapists unable to help.

If therapists could be more impartial, that'd be great.

I've meet several friends who met rapist therapists. Quite a bit these days.
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>>522551305
Not if you work for the feds and lawyers and insurance companies.
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>>522551031
I'll pray for you. Your occultism is a sure way to be a harmful therapist.
Jordan Peterson is an occultist too - Maps of Meaning and 10 Rules For Life plagiarises Aleister Crowley, as well as plagiarizing Nietzsche and Jung. Look how insane he is.

And no, Christianity is not Jewish. Jews' rejection of Christ is why they are so inclined to the worst ideologies and to the destruction and degeneration of the good. Their fathers are the pharisees, who are the spiritual children of the devil, whose fathers killed the prophets.
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>>522551332
EMDR is worth a shot my man
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>>522550923
And I thought the paisley chair mouse was a nutter. You got my experience beat.
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>>522551338
I’m trying to effect positive change by working within the system. I’m still on your team
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>>522548758
i quit going to a therapist whn I was still in highschool. she said she wouldn't see me and that a drug and alcohol counselor would be the person to see since I told her I was smoking weed.

my current expierence with "psychotherapists" are mainly masters students who basically play middle managers on crisis diversion wards who mostly sat in their desk looking at the thier computer entring in patient data and uplloading it to big brother to be sent off to insruence.
I've also seen masters level "psychotherapists" being "program directors" where all they do is show up once a month and talk about plans for the program , or they show up when one of the residents is being difficult and they basically ask the aides and house manager why this person isn't behaving.
BOH they just seem like the head of the bureaucrat SS. state sponsored snitches.
therapy and mental health is too tied down by liability and red tape imho.
i thought about becoming a therapist as well.
but after three years of applying I pretty much gave up. later I realized that going to grad school for a masters degree is something rich husbands do for their wives.
therapy is a wifejob. or a job for yuppie richfags that are self rightious smell their own farts type.
like you're going to take loans out for a masters degree that pays shit , good luck buying a house and paying off your student loans on a single salary. you either need a husband to help put you through grad school or a trust fund.

All therapy and mental health should be practiced "outside" the law imho. Good mental health is more akin to vigilante justice than institutional justice.
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>>522551377
Peterson sucks because he’s a zionist good goy who traded his principles for the bag. He’s also a shitty occultist who thinks Jung is useful when Jung was also a complete retard compared to Freud and later successor Lacan.
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>>522551488
I agree that insurance and bureaucratic oversight have hollowed out the profession entirely. However, that can be somewhat mitigated using private pay and superbilling, which is what I’m planning on doing. Got a scholarship too so luckily I won’t be in debt. Really just trying to infiltrate the field so I can protect fellow autists from being harmed by the system.
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>>522551403
Every smug self-serving twat thinks he's the first to come up with this notion, but I submit that it signifies your corruption quite plainly. You can't serve God and money.
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>>522548758
Do you have a degree in something?
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>>522551330
That's neuroscience dumbfuck.
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>>522551593
I’m not gonna go be an ascetic, so you can fuck off nigger
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>>522551332
Plenty of interesting info out there on untreatable aspects. Informs you why it's untreatable. And that will give you insight on what makes it complicated, then you learn. Vispassanna meditation- the brain thinks like the lungs breathe we don't pay attention to every breath so we don't have to entertain each thought. The brain is just doing it's thing trying to order things. Stop paying attention to it so intently. And shame. If you are pushing down deep shame about your memories, feel the shame as long as you can tolerate the feeling of pain. Whatever the video is playing in your brain about whatever incident you remember you can feel the emotion but in your minds eye say this isn't happening anymore it's over and I can leave this place because it's in the past, fade scene to black.
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>>522551518
Correct.
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>>522551664
You're going to be a product. No further use or meaning.

If you've any wits about you, you'll walk away and try to become a man without anyone else's help.
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>>522551589
what do you expect you'll find or do when you "infiltrate" the field man.
i hear "employee orgies" are more common in mental health fields.
Theres a reason why the field is inundated with "HR women".
or perhaps you're going to red pill your patients?
You want to become a therapist becuase you majored in psychology or someshit and were too stupid to go for a nursing degree instead which in alot of states is no different than getting a "psychotherapy" lisence.
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>>522551779
Some are pretty helpful. The best therapists I had for treatment with PTSD from multiple tours in Afghanistan had masters degrees. The worst experience I ever had was with a psychologist who had a degree from an Ivy League. Bro was totally out of touch with normal people.
TLDR. Some therapists are amazing, some are fucking aweful.
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>>522551779
I expect that there will be men who need help and to be able to express what they actually think. And I’ll offer them a way to do that without being pathologized by a midwit woman who doesn’t understand why men are having a terrible time in society right now.
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>>522551909
I can tell you will be a good one.
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>>522548758
>psychotherapist
fake job
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>>522548758
> I’m making this post to get a feel for how you all view therapy

1) Therapists are mandatory reporters which means they can and do report you to the cops. Thus therapists are unsafe, and essentially arms of the police state.

2) Therapists do not have special insight or informative theories. Most of the effect of therapy is based on "rapport" which means the emotional and social connection you feel with the therapist. Everything else is hokum.

3) Personal Experiences

I went to one therapist doing intake for a government health service. They sent me back home, and it was the best thing that could have happened to me. I can't imagine what would have happened if I had been taken seriously, how deep the screws of therapists and the state would been been drilled into me. By turning me away, I maintained my freedom.

I went to another therapist many years later, and he was so clueless. It was like he never met a complicated human being before. He never met someone who wasn't just a check list of obvious symptoms. If I had shown up with a box to check, he would have checked it gladly. But as a human being he had nothing to say. He sat there confused. So I never went back.

The cause of my emotional distress, which is society, is just not on the menu. There's no box there to check. All they can do is nod in agreement, or suggest some drugs, or make up some story, maybe involving crystals, or report you to the cops.

4) Conclusion: Therapists are basically priests in a secular age. But they are bad at their jobs. What they sell isn't the least plausible, unless you are already a believer. But unlike real religion, psychotherapy doesn't even have the benefit of a deep culture, or connection to the great seekers. It is just a superficial professional grift, more interested in how to conform a complex human being to a set of symptoms found in the DSM so an insurance form can be filled in.

That's therapy in a nutshell. Have fun!
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What state are you in? Depending on how libtarded your state is. Your college level classes will likely require you to either be an anti-White retard, or to fake it really well. Look at the ACES Antiracism Statement.
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>>522551909
first lesson: expectation vs reality is the first step on the path of transference.
everyone "expects" men to be mentally ill and in need of therapy.
now do you expect them to take their butts to the shink when they feel depressed?
most male therapists are drug and alcohol counselors, or prison therapists. church pastors/youth group christian counselors
If you want to "protect your fellow autists" you're better off becoming a teacher.
>>522551875
were they both working out of the VA?
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>>522548758
Psycho the Rapist
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>>522548758
I tried therapy years ago. My therapist was a 80 year old guy who seemed more interested in doing shit tests to see if I was a psycho more than to legitimately trying to help me. In the end he gave me some wellbutrin and since it made me impotent I stopped taking it. It did help with me being less bitter about how fucked society is but I just manage with that on my own now.
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>>522548758
>training to be a psychotherapist.
so an egotistic bullshit artist who scams money from people in distress you can't help in any way
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>>522551518
>Peterson sucks because he’s a zionist good goy who traded his principles for the bag
He never had any principles. His ramblings were always incoherent. Read Jordanetics.
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>>522552630
> keep coming back
> we're making progress
10 years later and you still haven't killed yourself.
Maybe the best thing a therapist can do is entangle you in some low grade BS so you don't kill yourself, or get enough time to figure it out for yourself. That would be an acceptable off-label purpose to therapy.
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>>522551518
Also your defense is (((Freud))) is better? What happened to your fear of jewish psyops?
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>>522548758
I consider therapy to be largely a secularized development of ‘confession’
People want to talk about themselves, complain, and also be absolved of their guilt - this process itself is benign enough but adding a profit motive to it converted this from something you could do with the lads to something that you need to speak with a certified technician
The whole industry is pseudoscience and the current category of ‘psychology’ denigrates the entirety of the sciences

Source: Studied psych at a good UC, jumped ship due to how fucked current psych is
My wife is also in medical school and the MCAT now requires students to learn psych/sociology material and it’s so glaringly miles beneath other domains like organic chemistry or anatomy
In summary, having worked a couple jobs adjacent to the psych industry and having friends directly involved in it, I can say this anon >>522550503 is basically right

Evolutionary psychology and neuroscience are both pretty legit imho but ‘talk therapy’ is astrology larping as a science and I wish it would stop. Psychiatrists can help severe cases but, frankly, I suspect they do more harm than good - with an enormous over medication of anti-depressants, anti-anxiety meds, and ADHD meds (and my friend who prescribes them blames the profit motive and also patient pressure to prescribe a pill rather than lifestyle changes)
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>>522551518
Jung dabs on Freud so hard that it’s absurd…
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>>522553492
Language and meaning aren’t affixed, therefore Jung’s archetypes are tooootal horseshit.
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>>522548758
The one eyed will lead the blind.
I want to poke those things with my dick not my finger.
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>>522548758
I just tell people to eat a large dose of psilocybin now because everything else sucks to make people feel less shitty.. may as well trip and feel good about the collapse of the world.
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>>522553564
It’s Freud who believed that the meaning of subconscious images (symbols) were fixed - and applicable across patients
Jung btfo Freud and explained why this we retarded (people develop unique associations throughout their lives)
You have such a surface level knowledge and such strong opinions, bad
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>>522548758
I find you people just fascinating. Its like self reflection deflection. Jung probably thinks you therapiste are real pieces of work. Frankly, they have more fuckin issues than the people they are trying to fix. It’s like they have to seek other people’s problems to make their life better. The skeletons in your closet makes you more of a degenerate than the clients you are judging. Remember this each time you are listening to other’s woes with no remorse like a NPC.
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>>522548758
Wrong. You're training to be a psychotherapist because you're a work shy faggot midwit who has fallen in love with his own unremarkable intellect.
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>>522553676
I’m a lacanian, not a Freudian.
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>>522553704
You’re right, laying concrete while eating honey buns all day is much more fulfilling. Thanks for the insight blue collar wagie
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>>522553382
who are you fucking quoting?
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how do you plan to relate to people while still having a professional relationship with them? i found therapists is more like talking to a police detective rather than having a casual coversation with your friend. i just think that the idealists that go into this field are the same as people who wish to become cops because they want to 'give back to the community' then realise over time they end up becoming the representative of the system they were trying to work against in the first place.
i just wish these type of people were more real with me about my situation. not hiding behind their notebook and interpretation of what i tell them and then judging me when im not there. my whole experience with people like you just reminded me why i try to stay away from the system so much to begin win. it was designed to be awful
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>>522553767
>Thinks I'm blue collar because I called him work shy
>Looks down on working class
Predictable and tedious.
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>>522555213
>work shy
Somewhat but i m not a nigger.
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therapy is confession for jews

it's an admission their worldview is incomplete and perpetually unfulfilled
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>>522548758
Same position as you. I did some college in sociology with the express purpose of influencing students and professors. I was partly successful and hope it started an avalanche of some sorts for them. I'm currently working for a bit until I can go get a psychology degree or smth less like consulting and building my reputation. We need some smart anons in the field for all of us.
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>>522548758
Psycho the rapist, Why do you want to be like him? He hasn't posted here in ages.
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>>522548758
>I’m making this post to get a feel for how you all view therapy, whether you’d ever go if it wasn’t a fat woman therapist, and what you would want out of therapy. Thanks.

I was extremely close to becoming a psychotherapist myself, I'd spent years and years accumulating knowledge of disorders, complexes, and dynamics privately for fun as well as how to understand and execute several therapy models. But I resolved not to pursue a career in psych. The reason is because I think a lot of it is completely unnecessary, it's helpful and it does help people but it's unnecessary because I realized I can just do that for free without the red tape or any of the problems the field of psych has by default, like the replication crisis, or the non-spiritual, materialistic reductionism of dissecting everything down to labeled disorders.

I think psychology and psychiatry have huge innate problems that cannot be solved by itself. It's aim is to help give people the means to help themselves and yet it's been hijacked by a lot of bullshit, like the incessant positive reinforcements and constant vilification of negativity or negative feelings. A psych will tell you that it's okay to feel anger, or fury, or pride, or envy, yet they will always tell you to suppress it in some way. And I think that sucks.

I think for a lot of people if you just give them a baseball bat and 30 minutes to smash up a room full of furniture they can get 10 years worth of therapy completed in half an hour.
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>>522548758
i want therapist to make me a sandwich, suck my dick and cuddle me in the sleep.
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>>522548758
>therapy
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>>522548758
Like this for example OP:
>>522556139
>i want therapist to make me a sandwich, suck my dick and cuddle me in the sleep.

Men simply want the kind of support a therapist cannot give. Most young men who are in a state of despair are not retarded. They know what it is they lack. What they need is ways to find solutions for their problems. And therapy doesn't really offer solutions for problems, therapy mostly tells people to gaslight themselves into a state of forces positivity to ignore their own problems.
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>>522556619
Currently in therapy myself, and there's this nagging thought in the back of my mind from /pol/ in fact: can I trust this person when the goal of this system is to adapt me to a sick society and squeeze out whatever labor capacity I have left?
Then again, I do have trust issues on top of what I'm going there for.
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>>522548758
>I’m making this post to get a feel for how you all view therapy,
I truly do not understand it. If someone liked the idea of therapy and I had reason to like them and want good things for them, I'd mouth dumb lies to keep them happy, but it's just dumb to me. I do not think this has been true my entire life... when I was young it would have probably seemed awesome to me. But I healed (spontaneously), and I don't want stupid bullshit. If there is anyone considering therapy out there, talk to me. I can get you set straight in 15 or 20 minutes, and you won't need to spend $250/hr.
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>>522548758
therapy is for women and troons. normal people do not need this.
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>>522548758
therapy is useful to the extent that having someone to talk to is useful, the science itself is largely bullshit and adds no value to the customer, often negative value
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>>522557112
>can I trust this person when the goal of this system is to adapt me to a sick society and squeeze out whatever labor capacity I have left?

You can trust them. But you should not expect a lot from them either. The reason you can trust them is because it is a transactional relationship. If you feel the therapist sucks, you simply need to stop paying them and the relationship ends. You can trust that much at least.

If you are lucky you can find a good therapist who shares your realistic thinking. Because the truth is, we are in a sick society. Every good therapist should understand this, because that is supposedly the reason they chose to become a therapist, to help clean up some of the sickness, right? If a therapist denies the sickness of society, you can safely ignore them.

I had one good therapist out of the 5 I went to. His advice was as follows:
>"Anon, the world is not made for people like (you). That is okay. Fuck them (yes he actually cursed and swore). All it means is that instead of trying to fit into this world, you simply find parts of the world to work for (you) instead."

As for trust issues, yeah that can be a problem. But sometimes not. Sometimes what it actually is, is hypervigilance. Hypervigilance can be used to secure trust. In other words, your trust 'issues' can be used as the method to find solid trust. Your mind developed these 'issues' for a reason, a good one, to preserve your sanity and wellbeing and to preemptively protect you. Think of it less of a issue, more like a feature. Trust your own feature, trust that it will lead you to trustable situations. It does this by hypervigilance, by identifying possible threats. It's actually your ticket to finding people or situations that are worthy of your trust.

The only thing you gotta do is always make sure you are in control of that feature, rather than that feature being in control of (you). Don't try to get rid of it, just work with it.
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>>522550812
>i was a top zog soldier, why am i treated badly?
because you were a zog soldier, where were you deployed and why? did the people there really need you intervening in their business? was it righteous to do so? you deserve your nightmares if you fight in any war other than a defensive one on your own soil
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>>522557551
>Every good therapist should understand this,
literally one of the first things we discussed, what should the outcome of the treatment be when this society thinks living in a gay polycule with adopted kids is as valuable as trad marriage and loving bio kids for instance? She agreed. And funnily enough this woman from the north who also swears from time to time is 10x more effective than the the male I saw before who was into classical psychotherapy. Anons ITT are showing /pol/ they are wrong that you need a man specifically when you have straight up ex SOF having had the same experience.
> is hypervigilance. Hypervigilance can be used to secure trust
I think you're hitting the nail on the head here. I am excellent at predicting violence and am very good at making new friends. I think I'm going to write down what you said about it being a feature not a bug and discuss this. Big remaining challenge:
> "...you simply find parts of the world to work for (you) instead."
I still haven't found a solution to this myself, practically speaking.

I'll definitely think about this post.
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>>522558140
>I still haven't found a solution to this myself, practically speaking.
You haven't, but you will. The solution has a funny way of finding you instead. What I mean by that is, the human mind works using a process of elimination. Eventually you find the shape of the missing answer by trying all of the wrong answers. That happens naturally through experience, through suffering, through a multitude of fuck-ups and failures. Eventually the solution becomes clear, crystal clear. And the failures and mistakes retroactively develop a sense of meaning and purpose, that they happened as part of a process to reach the solution. What helped me was leaning in on negativity rather than positivity. Identifying the things I don't like don't want, don't care for. That was always easier for my mind to process. And in doing so, I was then able to find what I actually like actually enjoy actually care for. From there you just find parts of the world that resemble the shit you actually care about, the things that actually move you into feeling something good or bad. Then you find parts of the world that work for you.

Have a good one man
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>>522550443
Oftern people get in a rut with many issues that is becomes overwhelming.
Sometimes talking with someone can list the most important issues you can acutely deal with and can give a plan of overcoming them.
And also writing off many of other people's issues that aren't your problem.
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>>522548758
Whats your opinion on the the Enneagram of Personality? To my knowledge Corporations like to use it.
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>>522548758
Include this in your thesis
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>>522548758
psychology is fucking retarded, the only perspective that is real is: all thoughts and feelings are lies from satan, except for practical thoughts and all problems stems from demonic possession.
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>>522548758
I view therapy as gay psycho-manipulative babble perpetrated by hr women
The best advice is to assume blame for your problems and fix them
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>dominated by HR women who are legitimately retarded.
But are extremely easy to manipulate. They are walking logical fallacies that appeal to emotion.
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>>522560353
and only God can help you*
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>>522548758
Ai will replace you.
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>>522560160
Nta but Enneagram personality profiling is pseudoscientific nonsense to be blunt with you. Same goes for MBTI. Both Enneagram & MBTI are able to point out real patterns that exist, yes, and you might be 100% taken in by their 'accuracy'. It's not because you are a fool if you have been taken in by them, it's because they do actually point to real existing cognitive or behavioural patterns that you deeply resonate with. That much is true.

But neither Enneagram or MBTI can tell you why those traits came to be. Neither can tell you if this was due to nature or nurture. Whether it's (you) or simply a learner adaptation to your environs. Some may think 'who cares? It still tells me my personality'.

Problem is it's not. Personality and personalities are always in growth, always in change, always in a state of maturation. Someone who takes an Enneagram test today will test a different result five years later. Sometimes even less.

And the problem with Enneagram and MBTI is it tries to make a static cartoon 2-dimensional inference on the nature of man. Which is absurd as it smacks in the face of reality, and actually slows down growth for any who actually identify with it.
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>>522560160
Oh and, the reason why businesses and corporations love using Enneagram & MBTI is because they don't actually care about the individuals they hire on a personal humanised level. They only care if that person has specific traits they think are useful to use for their own profiteering.

>You own a business
>You aren't the type of businessman who enjoys teamwork or making rapport with your staff
>So you hire introverts or people who tested as such in some BS personality test
>That way you can know they will never confront you or ask for a raise or become disagreeable.
>They will typically shut up and get on with work

That's why corporations love these tests because they want a method to identify who will fall in line and who won't.
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>>522560476
This also
They exist to support your self victimisation
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>>522550354
>Canadian SOF
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>>522551090
>implying he's not a cartel commie
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>>522548758

>>Hi /pol/ I am AIDS, I have come to the conclusion that one needs to treat AIDS with more AIDS and Cancer.

ftfy
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>>522548758
>I’m making this post to get a feel for how you all view therapy,
You already assume that we know less about psychotherapy than you with your bullshit training.
I know more about the whole grift than you, how Freud faked all his case studies then just projected his jewish ideology and fantasms of incest onto others.
The only respectable one in this whole grift is Jung.
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Yes, therapy can be therapeutic.
It's very kind of you to help others, good luck.
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>>522550575
People don’t know this but you can get help for free by going to Church and developing a relationship with a priest. He knows more than a psychiatrist/therapist too because really it’s an ancient issue and not a modern one.



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