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What's actually wrong with communism? Is it actually based and redpilled? I have come to hate all of my belongings so much that I think they are one of the main negative influences on my quality of life. I would love to have every single thing I own just go up in smoke, it would be so liberating. It wouldn't be a day too late. In fact it has taken decades off of my life at this point that I could have potentially lived much happier. Imagine spending your time working for the betterment of others and of society as a whole rather than being worried about me, me, me. What's bad about that?

https://youtu.be/81jV9D8FiFA
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>>522552089
>It wouldn't be a day too late.
*too early
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>>522552089
It claims solutions to capitalism but ends up exactly the same with a small number of psychopaths and freaks owning and running everything and everybody else suffering. But because there's no personal incentive allowed it always ends much worse. There's no escaping the way the water of the human condition flows.
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>>522552089
>What's actually wrong with communism?
Aside from all the insane social reform shit they always pull, at a basic level communism's problem is that it attempts to determine prices and production rates by government command rather than through market mechanics. The result is, invariably, shortages and waste.
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>>522552481
>the government cannot set prices
>shortages and waste

we can fairly accuse all capitalists of not understanding economics, and even blindness
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Only a lofty individuality finds within itself the measure of collective concepts
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Maybe that's just what we're told. Oh it's so bad to only have 5 types of shoes to buy. You need to have a 5,000 different sneakers to choose from, and 5,000 different toasters, that will make you happy. You know Christmas didn't even have a tradition of buying presents originally, in Christianity, that tradition was literally made up by the owners of department stores or similar, and now people think it's "culture". There's no limit to how deep the corruption goes, into our soul. You should not buy presents for Christmas, that does not glue together a family, getting together and giving alms to the poor does, those presents only make Shlomo the CEO of Department Stores Inc. happy. Fuck Jingle Bells, fuck Santa, evil incarnate.

https://youtu.be/e9dZQelULDk
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>>522552089
>What's actually wrong with communism?
it can only work if non-biased AI is in charge. humans in power easily corrupted
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>>522552817
You already have your mind made up despite mountains of historical evidence to the contrary, so why even bother asking the question?
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>this is what a healthy society looks like
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>>522553079
Select "top brands" if you aren't interested in Tauzaufu toaster.
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>>522552817
>there's no personal incentive allowed

there are material and moral incentives for contributing to the collective good; it benefits the self, communism is not selfless
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>>522553155
not an argument

https://youtu.be/U3Jm8zF7bJ8?&t=2857
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>>522552089
I've came to believe that Soviet communism collapsed due to the rise of bureaucracy as a new ruling class. Instead of a classless society they got the same parasite class on top, now owning everything instead of just taking a cut as taxes. Nothing wrong with it if all people could get together, understand shared interests, and act as unity on those. But people could never do it, maybe some time in the future if ai jews won't make us all insane...
Also Sweden was good while it's trade unions could fight for something. After this struggle is gone, government just uses it mandate as it pleases.
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>>522552089
It fundamentally degrades humanity and sends us back in time technologically.

Consider humanity at its origins. No tech, not even clothing. Just clans of people with no language hunting and gathering to survive, building fires for heat, etc.
Now consider a hypothetical communist society in its final form (which is total wealth redistribution followed by self-termination of the governing body).
The only difference between this system and the first example is the technology available. Other than that, everything else is parallel. What would inevitably happen in final form communism with the government abolished, is that people would start trading again. Since there is no authoritative force to keep humans as economically "equal" as possible, human nature kicks in and you start trading away things you dont need for things you do need. And society over time would rebuild itself back up to what it once was; hierarchal systems.
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>>522552817
>Oh it's so bad to only have 5 types of shoes to buy.
>he doesn't know
They literally no good boots in USSR at all
and buying shoes was massive pain the ass, (not surprising when Soveit central planning estimated man needs one pair of shoes every 7 years and planned production accordingly).
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If you hate communism, you're a brainlet. If you support communism, you're also a brainlet.
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>>522552817
>You know Christmas didn't even have a tradition of buying presents originally, in Christianity, that tradition was literally made up by the owners of department stores or similar, and now people think it's "culture". There's no limit to how deep the corruption goes, into our soul. You should not buy presents for Christmas, t
Also fan fact: January 1st is amidst strict Orthodox fast and it's literally sin to celebrate, drink and eat during these dates for Russian Orthodox. Soveits specifically changed calendar, and made New Year Holliday to stick a finger into religious people eye, enticing them with sin. And it's working. New year is now most celebrated holiday in Russia. Week of non stop gluttony amongst strictest Fast of the Year. Parade of a Sin.
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>>522553363
>Nothing wrong with it if all people could get together, understand shared interests, and act as unity on those.
This is literally how free markets work.
If you have feedom you can get together to care Bout you interests, nobody would care about your interests better then you. Taking money out of pocket to buy things you want is that ultimate self care act.
Communism is opposite of that.
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China is proof of the superiority of capitalism. With commies, in charge it's a bunch of retards bashing sparrows to death and causing millions to die. As soon as capitalists take the reigns, the economy and quality of life grows exponentially.
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>>522553736
Central government kidnapping captains of industry like Jack Ma to bully them into compliance is real free market shit
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>this is what freedom looks like
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>>522553388
>no language
Where do you get that idea from? Proto-Indo-European had no writing and yet was more complex than Latin.

https://youtu.be/qxOJ4p8e7NQ
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>>522553917
That is funny thing.
In USSR jeans were a cult piece of clothing. They costed entire month salary, and it took months of seeking through gray market sellers to find yourself one that is more or less of your size.
Today in Russia for month salary you can order 30 jeans of different models and they would be delivered next day to your door. From Soviet man point of view this is how real communism should look like after USSR transitions from socialism to "real communism".
Utter failure of Soviet economics to supply just basic pants.
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>>522552089
>What's actually wrong with communism?
Communism is not about economy, equality or social justice, it is a system of tyranny that serves only a small elite and abuses the masses of people. Also it destroys tradition, culture and religion (it's meant to do that). The theory of marxism is designed for revolution, that's it's only real purpose. Any powerful political group can use marxism (and cultural marxsm) as a tool to bring down the government of a country and take over with a violent revolution. To make this possible it needs a lot of dumb people who fight for "liberation" and do the dirty work (riot, kill "class enemies" and "facists", burn buildings, create chaos etc) to destabelize the state enough so that the group in the background can take over (this group doesn't need to have any marxist ideology, literally everyone can orchestrate a marxist revolution and then be the ruler in a communist regime). What usually happens after the revolution is a political purge where the serious revolutionaries and activists get killed (because they could become a treath to the new rulers) and then a polices state is established. Targeted groups are religious people, conservatives, people with wealth and people who protest against the regime.
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>>522553674
If you are born into wealth, however ill-gotten it is, you don't have to work, thus becoming a parasite. That is, a life of usury. It is a sin in most religions except if you're farming goyim. That's the problem with capitalism really - money love money, and a most money is bullshit - old money, scam money, fiat money and such. If really did had an even start in life, it would be much easier to live, and iwn a house for example.



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