>Destroys religionWhy are atheists intellectually superior?
>>522553026Lol atheism is a pipeline to paganism.
>>522553098irrelevant off topic fart of a responce
>>522553128You got naturally occuring chemicals in your brain that leads you to believe in a Higher Power. And that Higher Power will be realized by atheists to be Saturn.
>>522553297not an argument
>>522553333Yeah it is. Much like how evolution comes from the occult too. We come from the fish, or water snake, the old ancient womb in the sky, that is Saturn's rings. Other than that, no such thing as vertical gene transfer, only horizontal gene transfer. We got a linguistic language of DNA that has programmed our cells into machines like how Saturn programmed the matrix
>>522553026>>Destroys religion>Why are atheists intellectually superior?have you read 'God is not Great'?
>>522553459Also not an argmuent, another introduction and contents page to drivel.
>>522553507Of course it's an argument.
Hitchens failed to understand what Nietzsche meant by 'God is Dead', which is a lament, not a victory cry
>>522553026>atheistshe is kike
>>522553652And the Logos - the son of Barbelo, the central sun of Saturn - is a dead god and a god who wilds the scythe.
Atheists seem to have such issues with their self esteem that they constantly have to tell the world how cool they are.
>>522553609It very much isnt you stupid person>>522553652>>522554611off topic, unsubstantiated
>>522553026what's his argument?are you able to give a summary?
>>522554867Still waiting for creationists argument first. This isnt how it works chap. Im sorry
>>522553026I hope one day christniggers,muzzshits,poojeets, migga niggers, libtards leave this site, we were always amoral fags, I hate reading them moral fag about every single topic, it's fucking BORING. HEIL KEK.
>>522553026This subhuman lost all credibility after he cried for Muslims in Bosnia and then supported the war in Iraq and Afghanistan.
>>522553128>responce>>522553728>he is kikeWhy are most english speaking countries so ESL?
>>522555011that's a separate conversation I'm not party to, so I don't see how that prevents you from separately discussing Hitchen's position with meshould I take it you're not actually able to summarise the thrust of his argument?it's okay if you can't, but better to tell me, than wriggle and squirm
>>522555254so leave>>522555142also not an argument
>>522555426or was your pic the response?>that which can be asserted...is *that* the main thrust of it?if so, what's the evidence that that line of reasoning is valid?because if it doesn't have any evidence to support it, then by its own internal logic, we have to dismiss itand I have a point against it, actually:"that which is axiomatic and foundational must by definition be asserted without evidence"so we know of at least one thing which violates the logic in your quote, invalidating it completelyI have disproven it as an argumentyour move
Nobody dies an atheist. It's literally impossible as you can't divest yourself of hope.
>>522553098>>522553128>>522553297>>522553333>>522553346low effort atheism spam threads. its never about a dialogue its only about provocation with cheap rhetoric
>>522553026I always thought he was very purile, a ego that could not imagine anything greater than itself.
Religion: a higher force created the cosmos. (unproven)Atheism: the cosmos just happend without creator. (unproven, ridiculous)/thread
>>522553026BY ODIN'S BEARD THAT IS ONE FUCK UGLY JEWLET ME GET MY AXE
>>522555650Obviously nta, but besides the obvious logical conundrums, I think it all eventually comes down to the question of human perception and its limits. Our degree of potential knowledge is bound by flesh.
>>522553026
>>522553026LOL. He's already been debunked.Here:https://www.reddit.com/r/Retconned/comments/1m0px7o/attention_at_least_one_rapture_has_already/
>>522553026Then logic leads you to only one choice, when to kill yourself, soon because if there is no god your existance is utterly pointless come just a million years from now let alone a billion, why do anything other than a pointless need to validate a pointless existance like you are now trying to validate your pointless opinion
>>522556019that makes no sense>>522555997Off topic
>>522556226Yeah no wonder you cannot make sense of what i said because atheists are midwit shitheads
>>522553026>Has Europeans abandon Christianity>Now Europe is open to all forms of degeneracy and is now being colonized by IslamIf he is so "intellectualy superior" why did he sabatoge his own people?
>>522556385What you said was not beyond my intellect it was infact conducted on an incorrect basis of reason where anyone whom thinks like that is a fucking retard even if they conduct the thoughts perfectly.
>>522556532was my deconstruction of the Razor beyond your intellect?I can't help but notice that you've not yet been able to mount a response to my argumentwere you hoping you could pretend you didn't see it, or did you just not understand it?
>>522556532So you know your existance is utterly pointless?
>>522556586>>522556650no? Show me proof of intelligent design. Im still waiting for an oasis of intellect in this creationist desert of bafoonery.
>>522556901Your not an atheist is you dont know your existance is meaningless, if a god didnt set forth existance then all of the universe is a pointless expression of the laws of physics that just came into existance, again what is the point if in a billion years you and all of this earth is a barren rock, whats the point of you trying to validate atheism?
>>522557097off topic, bad english, still waiting for proof of intelligent design.
>>522556901>no?'no' as in you weren't hoping you could pretend you didn't see it, or 'no' as in you didn't understand it?you appear to be conceding the point
>522557162The Gods told me thats not your real flag and you are a vpn faggot.
>>522553026Try dmt
>>522557162Haha You are not a atheist, just a agnostic retard
>>522556901Proof that the universe created itself?
>>522557204No as in your confused and your logic is terrible and your questions are wrong. No to both. No to your dumb new reply aswell. Off topic
>>522557242Off topic, semantic>>522557260false dichotomy, failure to understand the cosminc expansion.Your creating a more serious problem where god created the universe but god existed before the universe and so therefore what created god. Hence you believe god created himself which is even more rediculuous and equally by your own rules that you have set to trap yourself like the charlatan you are.
>>522555071>>522553026Do not fall for glownigger divide & conquer tactics.The bible has always taught racism and anti-semitism.Anybody teaching otherwise, be it in support or in opposition, is preaching heresy.- https://rentry.org/Deus_Vult_XPYour ancestors, be they popes, saints, pastors or other members of the church have taught racism and anti-semitism.Your ancestors, be they conquistadors, cossacks, pilgrims or other soldiers of the church have practiced racism and anti-semitism.- https://rentry.org/Deus_Vult_NIChristianity is the definition of "right-wing" political ideology.Hitler himself, as well as the national-socialist movement, were blatantly Christian.- https://rentry.org/Deus_Vult_KAEven today there's a growing list of Christian political commentators who are racist and anti-semitic.Feel free to reply to this post with others.- https://rentry.org/Deus_VultCommon glownigger attempts to silence the truth about the White man's religion:>"off-topic"This post is both politically incorrect as well as on-topic with this thread.And not only is the pope a monarch of a country, many White nations are still monarchies with no separation between church and state.>"automated spambot"The staff sees that I'm active in other threads.And I don't tend to reply to glowniggers, as they argue in bad faith anyway. >"spamming/flooding"This post is only posted once in this thread.And the requirement for "posting a duplicate reply" is to wait for 5 minutes.
>>522557421
>>522553026His - or any atheist's - arugemnts aganist religion are weak and transparenty butthurt.The best argument aganist religion is picrel. No benevolent God would create something like this. In fact the existence of pajeets disproves both the benevolent creator and the evolution theory.
>>522553026This faggot got me into atheism. Then I found out he was a jew and I snapped out of it.
>>522553026Which muslims did he debate about Islam? What jews did he debate about jewdasism?>I'll wait for an answer.
>>522553026Tell me how he died again?
He flip flopped on Israel and then became a philosemite, like all gaytheists inevitably do.
>>522557273calling my logic 'terrible' is not nearly as persuasive as demonstrating why it's wrongin fact, it's not an argument at all—it's just puerile name-callingthis is your third and final chance to mount a response to my deconstruction of the Razor, before I consider the argument to be won in my favourbut please, don't even bother trying—the impression you give is that you lack the intellect to do soI suggest you instead either concede the point in good faith, or better yet (and more likely), hurl more insults in lieu of actual argumentation in an attempt to save face, giving me the immediate satisfaction of intellectually crushing another atheistlast chancewhat will you do?
>>522557422https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=874t-xQOm0UYeah. Jews hate us.
>>522557421The only person failing to understand is you, burger. Divinity cannot be debunked. Any attempt to explain existence scientifically inevitably leads to one form of infinite regression or another. This infinite regression has all the properties of God. If you decide that there is no infinite regression then you are guilty of asking for 'one free miracle and we'll explain the rest'. The only good faith solutions are agnosticism and God. inb4 'wHaT cReAtEd gOd?' This is a fundamental misunderstanding of the nature of divinity. God does not need a creator, God is a miracle. Those who believe in the divine can invoke the miraculous. It is only incongruous with materialism. The onus is, always was and will always be on the materialist to come up with an answer as to how existence can exist without a mechanism that has all the characteristics of and by definition is God.
>>522555738>its never about a dialogueSure it is. You clearly don't want one
>>522557421You are not a atheist, just not enough brain power for thought experiments beyond your lifetime, same as with a nigger and the "what if you didnt eat yesterday?" question so of course a logical argument is beyond your grasp, a atheist would know he was meaningless and pointless in the grand scheme of the universe because he would know it was random happenstance that caused his existance and his small 100 year existance will mean nothing to the universe
>>522556019>soon because if there is no god your existance is utterly pointlessTo you. >>522556019>why do anything other than a pointless need to validate a pointless existanceSo you mean to tell us your defined by your preference of God? That's it? You have no personality or rationality outside of that?
>>522557848>>522557421>burgersorry Bruce. I was getting my swarthy retards mixed up
>>522557848>Divinity cannot be debunkedIt can be dismissed. "Divinity" is a metaphysical buzzword.
>>522553098Goyim relapsing into paganism is a threat to western civilization.
>>522557957So in a billion years how much will your existance matter?
>>522558046Why a billion years? I'm living right now.Nitice how you avoid the questions I asked lol.
>>522558096Notice how you avoid the one question i asked haha
>>522558122I didn't, reading comprehension a miss for you?
>>522558039>shouldThen why do they seethe and eat chinese food instead?. Maybe they should accept Christ and stop cutting their kids dick.
>>522558008Not even managed a week argument there. That's not actually an argument at all. You won't go near trying to actually debate because 1. I'm right and 2. You're intellectually dishonest
>>522558150An atheist will proudly say his existance does not matter, why dont you, another agnostic claiming to be atheist
>>522558189>That's not actually an argument at all.Neither is claiming "divinity" lmao>>522558189>You won't go near trying to actually debate becauseThere's nothing to debate when you invite metaphysical nonsense that has no real way of being demonstrated
Because secularism explains things plainly, logically and rationally about the real world around usThe Bible, or any religion for that matter, has no single piece of evidence of their existence and it all boils down to, "because God"
>>522558208>An atheist will proudly say his existance does not matterMy existence matters to me >>522558208>why dont you, another agnostic claiming to be atheistAgnostic atheist
>>522553026>destroys religion>the entire world immediately goes to shitThanks a lot, faggot.
>>522555734>Nobody dies an atheist. It's literally impossible as you can't divest yourself of hope.Atheism = lack of belief in the existence of deities. Please explain why on earth you proclaim that atheism = lack of hope.
>>522558273So i was right, study some quantum physics and youll get there
>>522557438>Religion is holding us backoff topic,Why is Steven Hawking not on this list. GEE I WONDER. If they were born in the same era i.e. the future after the hive mind learned, they would agree with him or maybe not its infatuous to assert on the contrary. I will not continue with this off topic drivel, good bye.>>522557466not an argument>>522557569https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEx5Ld7covkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnMYL8sF7bQ>>522557586>do you think god was created by some one?... Dont be silly it just happend through natural laws.>>522557735Make your own thread if you want to be off topic.>>522558008hear hear
>>522553026He only ever destroyed Abrahamism. Literally took the tutorial difficulty.
>>522557848>Those who believe in the divine can invoke the miraculous.You must believe the holohoax happened.
>>522558376>doesn't have an argument >claims to be right Kek. Kick rocks kiddo
>>522558376>study some quantum physicsCringe, everyone can tell by your third grade grammar and spelling that you've never studied anything.
>>522553026>destroys meaning>his people go extinctGreat success.
>>522558410Called you agnostic, you admit to being agnostic, im wrong ok
>>522558244You're debating the existence of God you cretin. 'Divinity' means 'God like' you cretin. Metaphysics encompasses the question of whether God and divinity exist you cretin. Cretin!
>>522558483>Called you agnosticAnd I had to correct you Lol, it's like these fags don't live in reality and ignore things they don't like
>>522558425Go back to your usual site
>>522558512>You're debating the existence of God you cretinNo, I doubting your personal feelings about what you think "God" is>>522558512>Metaphysics encompasses the question of whether God and divinity exist you cretinYeah and I dismiss your personal feelings as just that. Personal feelings lol
>>522553026>(supposedly) destroys religion >diesWho won again?
>>522558650>>522558450off topic, not an argument
>>522558524>Ignore things they dont likethats lots of projection when it comes to a conversation about there being a creator of the universe, eh youll see in the end, we all will die
>>522558569Well let's reach agreement on what qualities my God must have. Was not created or if it was it created itself. Is the genesis of everything. Additions? Arguments?
>>522558735>thats lots of projection when it comes to a conversationIt's what you just demonstrated>>522558735>eh youll see in the end, we all will dieSee what?>>522558749>Well let's reach agreement on what qualities my God must have.>my God>myNothing beyond your personal feelings, clearly
>>522558397It was real in my mind. I denounce the talmud
>>522558799Youll find out if there is a god when you die, everything you know, worked for, people you care about will be gone if your right, and wont matter because the data locked in your brain will disapear like nothing ever happened, agnostic atheism seems like good ideology
>>522558930>Youll find out if there is a god when you dieWhy should I believe you?
>>522558799nah, I'm done with you. You're as thick as pigshit and can't even argue your own case even when I give you the opportunity to determine the parameters of mine.
>>522558948Dosnt matter now does it, you will die some day
>>522558984>nah, I'm done with youKek>you won't take my personal feelings seriously!You and troons are 2 sides of the same coin
>>522559004>Dosnt matter now does itNot to me. Cool for you though.>>522559004>you will die some dayWe all do. Which is why this life is even more important
>>522559074Haha Why would this life matter if you wont remember it because everything that was you, your brain is nothing but rotting cholesterol, like a rotten egg yolk
>>522559201>Haha Why would this life matterThat's up to you to make your life matter. I find a lot of meaning in my life. >if you wont remember itI'm immortalized by my children and the legacy, lessons and memories I've left them and others. This isn't hard to understand or comprehend outside the 1 dimension you seem to employ
>>522559327BY THE GODS
>>522553026He pissed his pants and preyed at the end just like everybody else does.
>>522559331And how many generations will it take for your memory to be forgotten? Even if your offspring choose to keep the line going, lots of family trees getting pruned with the population collapse and who knows what horrors the future has to come, then gene editing who knows whos genes they may implant into your decendents to completly remove your existance even from their genetics, seems like quite the futile endevor if you dont believe in a god that knows you
>>522559546>And how many generations will it take for your memory to be forgotten?Who knows. I'm focused on the here and now>more emotional manipulation It's not worning bro lol
>>522559616>worningWorking*
>>522553026>atheistsLol They aren't, they're Inferior.They literally throw out & hide information They don't like, or that doesn't fit what they Want to believe!!! Read Zacharia Sitchen's theories. Catastrophic Earth Catastrophes caused all the layers in Earth's crust, caused the sudden freezing of wooley mammoths in Siberia 4000 to 5000 years ago, because east asia got shoved northward (as America was shoved southward.) North pole used to be between Hudson bay & Lake Superior - that is why there were glaciers in Canada. His theories were mocked & forced out of Universities by Carl Sagan, in the later 1970s. Senators who decide what schools get funding didn't want anyone researching, or proving his theories!!Why? What is the danger in finding truth?Professor James McCanney says they don't want you to understand that comets are electrical, the Tail is plasma sparks! Maybe they are afraid we'll figure out how UFOs work & how to build them? Germany could have won the war if they were a couple years further ahead in building them.
>>522559616You call logical arguments emotional manipulationThats a firstUse whatever you need to motivate you get out of bed in the morning and to get to sleep, remember christ is king on your dying day
>>522559789>You call logical argumentsYou haven't given one
>>522553098Is self worship paganism.Everyone worships something. Athiest may not worship God or a diety but they (without knowing) worship money, alcohol , the earth or just themself.
>>522559835>Athiest may not worship God or a diety but they (without knowing) worship moneyI respect money. Which isn't worship. >alcoholI don't drink>drugsNope>earthA nice place, would like to keep it nice >myself I'm a fallible human who makes mistakes. When I do, I own up to them, make amends if possible, learn from them and move on
>>522553488>Much more happiness, truth, beauty and wisdom will come to you that wayThat turned out to be wrong, though. You can follow his argument and agree with every step along he way, but the conclusion is utter bullshit. Atheists are vastly more likely to be mentally ill, directionless and suicidal. Atheism dismantles religion but doesn't offer anything to fill the void. Every atheist turns into a nihilist given time. "Teehee just believe in nothing and invent your own values and purpose!" doesn't actually work, on an individual level or a society level. >>522557569In Hitchens' defence he was the only one of the "nu-atheists" to have the balls to go after Islam.
>>522559987>Atheism dismantles religion but doesn't offer anything to fill the voidAtheism is just a lack of belief in God or gods. You assume there is a void to fill because I don't believe like you. You have the void, not me >Every atheist turns into a nihilist given timeNope
>>522553026Wow, you guys are really worked up over it being Sunday aren’t you?
>>522559826I just extrapulated that your veiw that without a creator of the universe, whats the point of a existance that ultimately wont matter in the end because you wont remember it and anyone that ever knew you will also have the same fate of non rememberance and non existance, and you called that emotional manipulation, how is that emotional manipulation?
>>522560179>I just extrapulated that your veiw that without a creator of the universe,No you didn't you projected your views on me. >>522560179>whats the point of a existance Life and the journey it brings >wont matter in the end because you wont remember itLife isn't just about me. I know that's a hard concept for you because the only reason you believe in Jesus is to save yourself.Never once in your life have you ever served anyone but yourself
>>522560179>and you called that emotional manipulation, how is that emotional manipulation?Because those are a you fear, which us why your a "Christian", fear. These things don't worry or sacre me
>>522560287Well youll be a easy convert come the hard times coming, avoid the mark of the beast even if threatened with the murder and or starvation of your family, the freemason police and robot enforcers will be butal, haha actually it will be a great honor to get killed by the beast system so keep that in mind, if you havent noticed that AI and digital id and biometics is all the beast system
>>522553026they aren't. atheism is rooted in arrogance and is a belief system just like a religion.
>>522560655>Well youll be a easy convert come the hard timesI have had plenty of hard times. I was a Christian for most of my young and hard life>avoid the mark of the beastYour personal and made up problems aren't mine
>>522560716>and is a belief system just like a religion.Nope
>>522560784you have no evidence, yet you believe. atheism is rooted in arrogance. You aren't better than religious people. you are the same.
>>522560869>you have no evidence, yet you believeAlmost. I lack belief in God or gods until convinced otherwise
>>522560767Catholic i bet, that is an evil corruption of jesus's teachings and idolotry of mary, when robot police are doing the papers please and cash is illegal youll know when you have to be ready to be killed to save your soul, im tired so god be with you aka goodby
>>522561009>Catholic i bet,Nope. But I did attend a few services to see what it was like>more emotional manipulation Lol
>>522553026He intentionally and disingenuously ignored one of the great atheistic fallacies; that the burden of proof lies with the believer as opposed to the non-believer. The position that the theist must present an affirmative proof for their belief is inherently flawed logic. Given that there is a world, life, and existence, it is not the theist who needs to prove God, but rather the atheist who needs to disprove him. The very existence of said things puts the burden of proof on the atheist. This faggot was too cowardly to acknowledge that, so rather he inverted the obligation of an affirmative proof.
>>522559987>In Hitchens' defence he was the only one of the "nu-atheists" to have the balls to go after Islam.Nah, Sam Harris went after Islam too.
>>522561066>But I did attend a few services to see what it was like..why? I mean what exactly did you expect or what did you want?
>>522561098>The position that the theist must present an affirmative proof for their belief is inherently flawed logic.Unless the theist demands we believe like them. Or tells us we are going to suffer if we don't >>522561098>God, but rather the atheist who needs to disprove him. >himWho? Your opinions of "God"?
the only thing he destroyed was his life.
>>522560959this is a ridiculous, catch-all definition. By this definition everyone would be born an athiest. inanimate objects and pets could be considered atheist under such a ridiculous definition.this is like saying a lack of melanin makes you a white person.no, yours is a believe system, and you have to make up such ridiculous definitions as cope.
>>522561143>..why?To form my own opinion
>>522561253>this is a ridiculous, catch-all definitionNo, it's the definition >>522561253>By this definition everyone would be born an athiest.And we are.
>>522561253>. By this definition everyone would be born an athiest. inanimate objects and pets could be considered atheist under such a ridiculous definition.Nah, as we are talking about philosophy which is a human concept
>>522553026Eh religions fine I don't mind Jesus's character it's a better example to follow and help people with little to no return.
>>522561253>By this definition everyone would be born an athiestEveryone IS born an atheist, retard>>522561262Uhh, okay.. but what sort of opinion did you think you'd form? Because Catholics are like the least religious of all the religious people in my experience lol. No one is actually religious, there's just some that still show up to church and go through the same routine each timeSit, stand, sit, kneel, sit, stand, kneel, stand, shake hands, peace be with you, bread, wine, pass the donation basket without putting anything in it, then try to get the fuck out of there before everyone else starts to leave
>>522561432>Uhh, okay.. but what sort of opinion did you think you'd form?My own
>>522553026HOURLY REMINDER: Jesus never existed, god is not real and when you die it will be nothingness for eternity!
>>522561490Dude, stop being such a faggot and just say you were lying about going to Catholic church a few times. For fucks sake, maybe you really DO need Jesus or something. The truth will set you free, you know?
>>522561547>just say you were lying about going to Catholic church a few timesI wasn't lying
>>522553026>are atheists intellectually superior?they clearly aren'tthey took the first chance to extinct themselvesso much for that experiment
JESUS NEVER EXISTED! EVERYONE IS BORN AN ATHEIST!
>>522553026>obvious bait thread>145 upvoteshow do christcucks fall for this shit lmao
>>522561432no, sorry, you dumbas athiest retards don't get to claim all of humanity based on your beliefs.yours is a belief in no gods, not merely a lack of. A lack of belief means that little newborn babies and pets are athiests. This is the same as religious people saying their baby is jewish or whatever. Face it, you are a joke.agnosticism is the only scientific position. You athiests are really no different than religious people, and pushing your beliefs everywhere.
>>522554867give proof of the supernatural its that ez
>>522561531I guess you can prove that...
>>522561731>yours is a belief in no godsThat's still a lack of belief >>522561731>agnosticismIs a branch in theism and atheism. Just like gnostic is
HOURLY REMINDER: Jesus never existed, god is not real and when you die it will be nothingness for eternity!
>>522561855>>522561787
>>522561731>You athiests are really no different than religious people, and pushing your beliefs everywhere.Oh I see, I think you're talking about that one faggy British kid on YouTube who makes videos about atheism and bashes religion. Yeah no, just because one faggot is like that doesn't mean everyone is
>>522561796agnosticism is not a "branch in theism and athiesm. That is just something you atheist retards tell yourself as cope because you can't logically defend athiesm without trying to piggyback onto agnosticism. There is no such thing as an agnostic athiest or thiest. This something you've made up in your mind as cope because athiesm really is a belief system without any evidence, just like a religion.self-proclaimed athiests have proven they are low IQ and took the experimental clott shot more than anyone.
>>522562032no idea who that is but here are you atheists again pushing your stupid beliefs that are rooted in arrogance. You can't know whether or not gods exists, yet in your arrogance you believe they don't. You are no different than a religious person, on the other side of the coin.
>>522562161>agnosticism is not a "branch in theism and athiesmSee>>522558273I believe it is. Agnostic theist doesn't claim to know God exists but still believes. A gnostic theist claims to know God exists and believes itIt's the same with atheism but reverse. Agnostic atheist doesn't know if God exists but still lacks belief. A gnostic atheist claims no God exist and believes it. Both are still a lack of belief. Hence atheism Hope that helps
>>522553026He was a gay jew.
>>522562377Why should anyone start with the supposition that God or gods exist?
All anti-christ will go to Hell.
>>522562539>love me or elsesounds like a jealous ex girlfriend and not god
>>522562862Atheists have no reason to live in this world. The obvious destination for them is eternal damnation.
Mods banned me from a simple sentence. Looks like they finally take me seriously.
>>522562387claiming athiests can also be agnostic is mental gymnastics cope. Athiests try argue this to distance themselves from the fact theirs is a belief system, but gnostics they claim are on the other side of this fabricated equation don't even exist. Agnosticism doesn't relate to belief. Nobody actually knows whether or not gods exist, they believe they do, they believe they don't, or logically reason that it is uknowable. face it, athiesm is rooted in arrogance. You are no different than religious people pushing your beliefs onto others.
>>522563074>claiming athiests can also be agnostic is mental gymnastics cope.Should be easy to explain why I'm wrong here then>>522562387>>522563074>theirs is a belief systemLack of belief >>522563074>Agnosticism doesn't relate to belief.Agnosticism primarily concerns knowledge rather than belief. So if I lack knowledge of God, then that, by default, is also a lack of belief. Hence atheism. Which means we are all born with lack of belief What this means to atheists is that I lack your esoteric feelings and opinions "knowledge" about "God", which is a lack of belief Hence atheism
>>522562934jesus died for atheistsremember, love your enemies
>>522563274Reminder. Nothing can stop me from building the AI God to murder your entire bloodlines.
>>522563074>You are no different than religious people pushing your beliefs onto othersThis also isn't true as I'm not demanding anyone believe me. You’re more than welcome to disagree
>>522553098so atheism is based?
>>522562387gnosticism related to knowledge, not belief. nobody knows whether or not gods exist. There is no such thing a a gnostic athiest or theist. This is just mental gymnastics cope to reject that fact that atheism is a belief that is no more based on science or reason than religious belief.hope that helps
>>522563411>gnosticism related to knowledge, not belief.I've already addressed this >>522563274>Agnosticism primarily concerns knowledge rather than belief.>So if I lack knowledge of God, then that, by default, is also a lack of belief. Hence atheism. Which means we are all born with lack of belief>What this means to atheists is that I lack your esoteric feelings and opinions "knowledge" about "God", which is a lack of belief>Hence atheismNo need to keep going in circles >>522563411>nobody knows whether or not gods exist.And I lack belief until proven otherwise Hope this helps
>>522553026If he destroyed religion. Why do they ban prayer in your country? If prayer is fake and gay and has no power on this earth. Why is it banned? Why are people getting hauled off for silently praying in front of your murder institutions?
>>522563320Of course. I can’t eat if all my enemies go extinct
>>522563510>Why do they ban prayer in your country? If prayer is fake and gay and has no power on this earth. Why is it banned?Is it really? I somehow doubt this
>>522563652https://nypost.com/2022/12/22/uk-woman-arrested-for-praying-across-from-abortion-clinic/This woman was seen silently standing outside the abortion clinic.She held no sign.She said no words.She just told the cops that she was praying outside.The cops arrested her.
>>522563930So praying isn't banned then. >According to ADF UK, Birmingham authorities have established buffer zones near abortion clinics, making it illegal for people to engage in behavior disapproving or approving of abortion. This includes “graphic, verbal or written means, prayer or counseling.”She shouldn't have broken the law lol
>>522563930That happens when you don't bring a lawyer with you to public prayers. noobs
>>522564099Ya she was arrested for prayer. You knuckle scraping retard.
>>522564355>Ya she was arrested for prayerNo, she was arrested for breaking the law Why couldn't she go home and pray?.
>>522564428What was the law she broke?Oh right it was PRAYER.I'm done replying to you.
>>522564428God is above the laws.
>>522564523>What was the law she broke?Read you dumb moron >>522564099>Birmingham authorities have established buffer zones near abortion clinics, making it illegal for people to engage in behavior disapproving or approving of abortion. This includes “graphic, verbal or written means, prayer or counseling.”Again, why couldn't she pray at home?
>>522563464ok so when I say i'm an agnostic. You can't just accept that position, right? you have to further define me as either a theist or atheist. My position is that it is unknowable, so because of the ridiculous "lack of belief" definition, you would lump me, along with newborn babies and pets, into the atheist group, alongside the people who have a firm belief that gods do not exist and even go around pushing their believes onto others.so you see, according to you, there is no neutral position. If you "lack belief in gods", you are an atheist, and also if you have a belief that there are no gods, you are also an atheist.To address this fallacy, you mental gymnastics up the "gnostic atheist", of which none actually exist. Nobody can know whether or not gods exist, it is fictitious nonsense. Face it, yours is a belief system, similar to a religion.the words "agnostic atheist" or "agnostic theist" are oxymorons.
>>522564970>ok so when I say i'm an agnostic. You can't just accept that position, right?You can identify as whatever you like. My acceptance isn't required.That doesn't mean I have to agree or following along. You, religious and troons have a hard time understanding this it seems >>522564970>according to you, there is no neutral positionMaybe. But I think it eventually swings one way or the other. Its li6ne saying I'm a centrist but swing more conservative
>>522564970>Nobody can know whether or not gods existThats doesn't mean one can't believe or lack belief despite not actually knowing.
>>522565146>li6neLike*
>>522555772>higher forceThat's your monkey brain thinking that putting an unexplainable alpha chimp placeholder as top of the hierarchy creator who worked in some unknown way is actually an answer to anything. Everything is atheist because nothing involves anything outside of present reality.
>>522558039Paganism built the foundations of Western civilization. Christianity fucked everything up until the Renaissance, where they reapplied the values pagan antiquity had taught.
I don't like this guy, you can debate atheist points without being an arrogant prick. He claims to be the logical side but he coats his arguments with an arrogant and mocking attitude that isn't really necessary, which makes me suspect he doesn't really cares about truth.
>>522565420You just think one type of metaphysical horseshit should get special treatment. You wouldn't care if he sneered at astrology. Shut up with imaginary crap already.
>>522565533No, I just want to see actual debates instead of ego masturbation hidden as debates
>>522565533There is no higher power than God.
>>522553026He was Olivia Wilde's baby sitter.
>>522565628Well that's not possible when discussing imaginary nonsense.>hurr how do you know that the invisible force of an unknowable god didn't save trump from that bulletPhysical reality is the only area of discussion, and introducing poorly fleshed out characters from the spirit realm isn't adding anything to work with.
>>522565653Sure chimp, keep feeling safe that you're allied with a invisible gigalpha baboon.
>>522565783None of you atheists are capable of thinking himself being capable of building the AI God. Because you know damn well that you are a goddamn idiot.
>>522562377Heh, I guess you're hopeless then. You know, Muhammad, if you're going to be this wrapped up in your religious bullshit all the time, you might as well just go straight to the conclusion and strap that bomb to your chest and then accidentally trip, fall and blow yourself up before you get to your target
>>522565812And you can keep being anxious about getting drafted and die in a stupid war.
>>522565742Wow this is true. Never knew that
>>522565192I know Jesus is real. I had a personal supernatural encounter with him in 2018. Also, all true christians recieve words and leading from the Holy Spirit.
>>522566675>I know Jesus is real. I had a personal supernatural encounter with himCool, you're welcome to your personal feelings and opinions
>>522566938Nope, Jesus is real and he will burn all unbelievers (like you) in hell for eternity.
>>522567120>Jesus is realTo you
>>522567120
>>522553026>>522553128>>522553507>>522554758>>522555011All the pictures of this guy make him look depressed and demoralized. Why would anyone want to hear from someone like that??
>>522553026This zionist shill has been dead for over 2 decades, find another Jewish supremacist slober over. He was also a communist, because he was intellectually me lazy but good at rethoric. He fittingly choose to make is topic on an extremely easy and one sided debate
>>522567471>He was also a communistNo lol
>>522553026HOURLY REMINDER: there is no god, Jesus never existed and when you die it will be nothingness for eternity!
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>>522568017Fuck off memeflag
>>522567453Smart people always have a scowl from dealing with fools. All that religious people had to do in debates was translate why they think their faiths have some benefit in physical reality, like Islam and alcohol at the alcoholic, and instead they doubled down on trying to prove the spirit realm and flying winged donkeys.
>>522568125It’s good to know who should be killed, and who should be saved. I have no sympathy for all atheists that die in war.
>>522568077This isn't your private board, yankee.
>>522568125>All that religious people had to do in debates was translate why they think their faiths have some benefit in physical realityWhich is a good thing but once they do that then one cam see that a religion isn't needed to not be an alcoholic etc. But if it works for you then knock yourself out
>>522553026Why can't atheist's define atheism?
>>522568532Lack of belief in God or gods
>>522563199...200+ replies, because people just don't get it that believers don't have to prove their faith.>but where's the evidence?>it's a faith, goddamit, not a fucking scientiffic theory
>Early lifeinteresting.
I’m gay
>>522568962I have no doubt
>>522569024Want a blowjob?
>>522568532Atheism is an implicit state of being one exists in when not believing in any specific set of fictional nonsense.
>>522569024...but ok, the thread is entertaining...
>>522569063I'm not gay
>>522569153A mouth is a mouth
>>522568602Troon bullshit. Religious people like trannies need to omit fantasy nonsense from communication or justify your faith if that's your motivation for some real-life action. At least ladyboys can say they are doing something toward their mental image in present existence, but faith niggers literally give nothing outside of imagination.
>>522569124Agreed :^)
>>522569163Nope.
>>522563407Your faggot goat gods with cocks are super based bro
>>522553026If he’s so smart why didn’t he beat cancer?
>>522569064>Atheism>not believing in any specific set of fictional nonsenseMost atheists believe that Earth is a rotating ball in space and NASA was on the moon...so don't tell shit here.
>>522569064Atheism only pertains to belief in gods. Atheists can still believe in all kinds of retarded shit like ghosts, reincarnation, and flat earth.
>>522569294This
>>522569064Even believers are still without theism, they never experience aberrations of physics so their existence is a-theist.
>>522553026They aren't actuallyAssuming supernatural superentities don't exist without evidence is just as bad as assuming they do exist without evidenceThe only way to go is bayesian pyric skepticism
*doesn't destroy religion* *dies*Sir, would you like an atheist cremation or casket burial?
>>522570205>burning all atheists on a stakehow oldschool
>>522570205>I sure am motivated by the idea of burning all atheists on a stake.Only degenerate sadistic psychopaths can come up with the insane idea of torturing and burning all babies alive.
>>522570610So I'm guessing you believe in leprechauns and tooth fairies and Santa Claus?
>>522553026They, by and large, are not.
>>522553026>loses debate with doug wilson>gets cancer to avoid debating james white>dieslol
>>522571715Everything on the right is a world filled with religion lol
>>522572572>in my mindyoure not fooling anyone retard
>>522572628Right? It's obvious religion isn't doing shit
>>522572747vpns arent allowed on 4chan. how are you getting away with it? lol
>>522572773>vpns arent allowed on 4chanSounds like a personal problem.
>>522572804>60 pbtidlol
>>522572938>how dare you be active in a thread!Lmao
>>522572991>61 pbtid
>>522573039>this will surely get him now!62 now
>>522553098They worship their race and nature instead of a jew and jewish mythology?Of fuck, no no no it's so over pagan bros
>>522561102>Sam Harris went after Islam tooa kike going after islam? impossible
>>522556019>Then logic leads you to only one choice, when to kill yourself, soon because if there is no god your existance is utterly pointlessI love seeing christcucks admit they would just kill themselves if their fantasy about yahweh the jewish tribal foreskin god deciding goyim were okay was proven fake lol
>>522556019>if there is no god your existance is utterly pointless>THERE ISN'T ANY POINT TO BEING ALIVE IF I'M NOT GIVEN A MAGICAL SPECIAL PLACE IN EXISTENCE BY A MAGICAL SPECIAL COSMIC PARENT AND I ALSO GET TO LIVE FOREVER IN A MAGICAL SPECIAL AFTERLIFEWell, bye.
>>522553026This is the Pagan Atheist.
>>522572572Everything on the right is a world free from religion.Everything on the left is a world free from pagan atheism.
>>522573958>Everything on the right is a world free from religion.They are in a world filled with Christianity
>>522571260Yes, you are a sick fuck who wants all babies and animals in the world burned alive.
>>522573958Atheism has no tenets and is not really a united force, it's a lack of any unity based on the similar rejection of a premise. As such there's bound to be a ton of shitheads who are pro niggers and open borders who are also atheist. Likewise there are some atheist white nationalists too.Christianity on the other hand is a religion founded by a Jew and his Jewish cultists that promotes race mixing, open borders, and asks that it's followers never defend themselves against any threats whatsoever. It is an inherently anti nationalistic and anti racist ideology, and therefore completely incompatible with a white ethnostate. There is not a single pro white christian on earth because no matter what they think, their loyalty belongs to a jew first and anything else second.
>>522571260Yes, yes, spill the blood of whites who will not submit to the jewish master. the jews are right about our ancestors, all our gods are lies and only the Jewish tribal god yahweh, consumer of foreskins, is real!
>>522574203>>522574926>post deletedThe fuck did I just miss?
>>522575451Jannies cleaning the shit and piss from the board
>>522575451A crusade flag larper saying to kill the babies of atheists.
>>522576169Lol the Gook schizo
>>522575451A sadistic psychopath, ready for torturous genocide of the defenseless innocents.
>>522576604Let me guess... another ritual Moloch post?
>>522575451Someone notice that I have a lot of influence, and certainly capable of living by my words. Took them long enough.
>>522553026This was a faggot who sucked so many dicks he got throat cancer and died a slow painful death.
>>522558392Stephen Hawking was a hack. He published popular literature after no serious scientist took him for real anymore.
There is no such thing as atheists army. They are not capable of winning in war.
>>522576964I said that all atheists should be killed.
Funny. Mods and Jannies trying to silent someone who think himself capable of building the AI God.
>>522553026>destroys religion>religion doesn't diminish it importance by a single % pointmaybe he really didn't destroy religion. these clowns are all jewish agents, whether consciously or unconsciously. in order to restore our civilization we need a pro-white racist christian theocracy. anti-christians of any sort will be crushed like the vermins and nobody will hear about them anymore.
>>522560057>Atheism is just a lack of belief in God or godsIncorrect lil ladyIt's not just that. Atheism is the proactive belief God does not exist, ergo the rejection of God... a lack of belief is merely the conclusion that results from this rejection. Thus 'just a lack of belief' cannot be the definition of atheism itself because that "definition" would be circularYour refusal to accept this simple logic/fact is your concession, which I accept.
>Mocks God>Dies a rotting old bag of shit infested with diseaseYou just love to see it!
>>522553098the solution is charlemagne 2.0Let's make a big Externsteine for all nupagans and atheists just like Charlemagne did. These purely destructive and nasty groups will disappear and nobody will miss them or even remember them
>>522576329Yes, I am the chosen ONE of God.
>>522553333Why does this picture of Christopher exist?
I am above the Law. Shithead. None of the power in the entire world can do shit to Me.
>>522577642religion, and Christianity in particular, is an essential society harmonizer. Desecrating it should be crushed by law with harsh prison terms. The dream is giving the desecrators the treatment Charlemagne gave to the Saxons tho.
>>522577580atheists were burn alive at the height of our civilization and it's high time to revive the good old traditions.
You think you can just deleted me, and I will just go away? Fucking idiot.
>>522553026arguing about religion is a narcasistic indulgance since the metaphyisics of a religion are like 10% of what its about.To give him some credit, he was able to make moral arguments about religion.
>>522578069Based.The only way for White nations to survive and thrive is by initiating a second crusade.Every head will bow or be taken.
>>522577580an atheist is a literal subhuman. In the sense that he lacks an aspect of humanity that is the need for transcendence. atheists are crippled inside and want everybody to be crippled like them. Literally cancerous cells that must be wiped out like any other cancer.
>>522553026I was surprised to learn the jew was a faggot(in open secret fashion, he wrote about it in one of his books, just not put out there or commented on otherwise. I think back to a video of him defending his faggot jew friend stephen fry in a debate under the pretext of hitchens being a normal White male to get people to accept faggots.
>>522578069when I think about white anti-christians>my mind says "prison terms," >my heart says "Externsteine"Sometimes heart must prevail over mind.
>>522578413>Literally cancerous cells that must be wiped out like any other cancer.I prefer the Martin Luther method: lock them all up in camps and prevent them from breeding (although they don't breed anyway kek)That way they can be safely observed, like mold growing in a laboratory petri dish, without spreading their disease to society
>>522577580>It's not just that.Sure is
>>522577527Christianity is fundamentally anti-white.
>>522576964I'm irreligious, so don't know what religious words/concepts mean - I think the sadistic psychopath also claims he can beat everyone in the world in chess.
>>522578413There is no transcendence in the mainstream religions. The typical atheist is probably more likely to reach transcendence than the typical Jewish desert god worshiper.
>>522580267>lil lady can't refute even a single word I said Concession accepted
I want to address what some retard comparing the A in atheism be the word asleep.No, the "a-" in atheism is not the same as saying someone is "asleep.">Here's the difference:In atheism, the "a-" is a Greek prefix meaning "without" or "not".So a-theism literally means "without theism" or "not believing in god(s)".It's the same prefix you see in words like:asexual = without sexual attractionamoral = without moralityatypical = not typicalWhen we say someone is asleep, the "a-" there is just part of the word "sleep" in its older form. It doesn't carry the "without" meaning. "Asleep" comes from Old English ("on slæpe"), and the "a-" is an old intensifier meaning "in" or "on" (like "abed" = in bed, "alive" = in life). It's completely unrelated to the Greek "a-" prefix.>>522577580Hope that helps duder
>>522580843You keep demonstrating how atheist lack belief in God.Thanks for agreeing
>>522553026Atheism is a meme, your whole belief stems from other people's beliefs in another beliefReligion destroyed itself trying to prove God by discovering science.
>>522581231>Religion destroyed itself trying to prove God by discovering science.Indeed
>>522580485I am certainly capable of beating everyone in the world in chess.
>>522580924>>522580877>lil lady still can't refute even a single word I said Concession accepted
>>522581501See>>522580924>You keep demonstrating how atheist lack belief in God.>Thanks for agreeingDone and done :^)
>>522581297 This mutilated cattle is funny.
>>522581406Without using AI?
>>522577642BY THE GODSBY THE GODSTHAT'S HIDEOUSWHY DIDN'T THE SCIENCE SAVE HIM?
The other day I was on other internet board and I thought: where have I seen this trope that you read a book and become insane? And I know three examples. -Lovecraft-The King in Yellow -Abrahamic religion I want /pol/ to tell me what unites these
>>522581573>lil lady still can't refute even a single word I said Concession still accepted
>>522581687Why not?
>>522581763I see you're stuck on repeat. See>>522580924And since all you do is concede by repeating the same cope, I'll bid you a good day!Hope church was super cool though
>>522581938>still can't refute even a single word I saidConcession still accepted, lil lady
>>522581820If you're an experienced chess player and have practised and trained the most of your life, your chances are just a good as anyone else's in the same situation.
>>522582156I don’t practice. It’s just a game.
>>522577580>belief God does not exist,Still a lack of belief. Same if I said I believe I don't have any eggs in my fridge. It means I lack eggs, belief is irrelevant when reality is that I lack them whether I belive it or not. Same with with lack of belief in God. It doesn't matter if I say I believe God doesn't exist. The belief doesn't justify it, the lack of belief does because I still lack the belief regardless if I believe it or not. Hope that helps
>>522582560>Still a lack of belief.But not "just" a lack of beliefConcession accepted, lil lady
>>522582156>train and practice as a powerful SEAL special force an entire life>get one shoted by an irl aimbot userLet’s see how the world deal with that
>>522582310Do you play with or without AI?
>>522582752I can do both.
>>522553026atheists aren't even that smart, it's just that highly religious people are willfully stupid because every one of their answers falls back onto "i don't know how this all works so I'm just making some shit up and i expect you to do the same"
>>522582886I have never seen a smart atheist in my entire life. All of them are garbage.
>>522582709>But not "just" a lack of beliefYup. That's all it is Whether one states they belive God doesn't exist or ine lacks belief until proven otherwise (me), both are still a lack of belief I easily explained it here>>522582560>Same if I said I believe I don't have any eggs in my fridge. It means I lack eggs, belief is irrelevant when reality is that I lack them whether I belive it or not.You won't get it but others will
>>522582984>>Same if I said I believe I don't have any eggs in my fridge. It means I lack eggs, belief is irrelevant when reality is that I lack them whether I belive it or not.This is irrelevant lil lady, because we aren't discussing the proper definition some ridiculous word like "aegghavingbeliever"Try to keep up
>>522583637>because we aren't discussing the proper definitionYou aren't. But I am. Anyway, concession accepted
