How can Ukraine and NATO bargain a deal with Russia when they have nothing to bargain with?The entire worlds economy is shit because we are pouring money into the war and turns out (big shock) it was all getting laundered and stolen by corrupt Ukrainians. Ukraine has no land they can bargain with, other than giving russia even more than they have already taken. And Russia is constantly moving forward. The longer ukraine waits, the worse the deal gets. Yet they refuse to do anything any think they have anything to say to control the deal…Has politics always been this retarded and corrupt?
>>522562909Haven't you heard? Russia ran out of combat shovels two weeks ago and Schweiner's counterattack reportedly has Putler on the run.
>>522562909they should have surrendered in 2022, right after russia retreated from cherson. we're long past the damage that has been done and the war only prolongs because kikes wanted to make big money.
Neither of the side is ready to make concessions so war will continue until military victory is achieved.
>>522562909The west mostly negotiates with itself and ignores the reality on the ground or what Russian wantsYou one group who want to fight on and another prosing deals that Russia wont take>why do they negotiateRussia has entertained all these negotiations for political/diplomatic reasons. They want to at least pretend to be open to an end to the conflictTrump want to try to get a deal as a political win because domestically he's cookedalso when trump negotiates all the pro trump media hypes it up as if the deal is just around the cornerits good media for trumpIf he negotiates and Russia says no its also easier then to argue for further fundingthis was what he campaigned on btwTell russia to agree to a deal or he'll give Ukraine more aid. That's Kellogg's great idea>Has politics always been this retarded and corrupt?Yes always
>>522563553Yeah, but russia is in the position where they decide everything, yet Ukraine acts like they have anything to say. >>522563614At this point I think trump should make the deal even less favourable for ukraine and actually make an ultimatum. Nothing more than yes or no, and if Ukraine says no then America is totally out. I think russia might agree if they get all the areas they went in to get in the first place. (Including odessa) and Ukraine should have no army at all and no EU either.
>>522564244that's because ukraine's masters are not interested in peace, ukraine is politically captured state since 2014 coup of democratically elected president.
>>522562909>Has politics always been this retarded and corrupt?Yes, glad you're paying attention now, welcome aboard.
>>522562909Zelensky is puffed up on anglo promises and the image they created for him as being 'Churchillian'. Its not victim blaming to recognize that he is just too invested in that self-image and cannot escape its gravity and cannot climb down from the rhetorical hill they marched him up.
>>522562909Unless America and Europe physically occupy western Ukraine i can see Russia take literally the entire country and not just the eastern parts.
>>522562909Corrupt?No, not this badly.The retardation comes and goes but ut's particularly egregious currently.
Im not fighting gay kike wars or dying in them.
