> be me> live in the city> want too move to the mountains and get a remote job> fucking 4 million for a basic log cabinliterally never going to be able to afford a home how is this even fair? It’s really impossible to escape being a goyslave isn’t it?
>>522571746Just be born in 1950 bro
>>522571746>why cant i live at a resort for cheap this sucks
>>522571746this doesn't look basic at all
>>522571746> be me> live in the city> want too move to the mountains and get a remote jobis literally my planaint no way shit is 4 mil in a normal area, go to west vrginia or something
>>522571746>huge house in a ski resort is expensivees ist vorbei
>country founded on manifest destiny and settlers.>can't legally build in empty plot of land
This is a log cabin, what you posted is a mansion
>>522571746I just watched a tiktok of a cuban woman that bought a house in the woods for 1 euro in Italy, maybe you just have to move to europe Pablo>>522571752is only empty if the ones who claim to own the land are feather indians
>>522571752Manifest Destiny originally meant that you would expand across the whole continent, but you decided to cuck out of that. Time to invade Canada and Mexico if you want your piece of dirt.
>>522571746>4 beds>3 bathrooms >240m2>log cabin Americans are completely nuts
>>522571746This is a chalet at a skiing resort, isn't it?I feel like I've seen a bunch of threads like this over the years. Complain about housing prices in America, while posting some unique cherrypicked property that isn't representative of anything. Probably the same anon shilling this for whatever reason.
>>522571746Building your own costs 4 million dollars. Sorry to break it to you. And no you can't build it even if you had the money. Guess you'll have to get scammed by landlords overpricing a shithole to live at
>>522571746>Square feetThis is the only thing more retarded than feet, miles, pounds and fahrenheit cuz it's retarded^2
>>522571759now imagine cubic feet
>>522571746here, 10k. whats your excuse?
>>522571746I'm picking through houses at the moment as well. Plenty of cheap options in my general area. Picrel is around €17k.
>>522571746plenty of houses like this for under $500,000 - i had a nice picture of one in Montana but i cant find it so have this instead
Just a few option under 30k dollars I've looked at. Plus I'm willing to spend a lot of renovations.
>>522571762>>522571764that's it, im moving to Sweden
>>522571761Norway is one of the most difficult countries to emigrate to. Wish I could. Lovely place.
>>522571746i got my house for 50k and its literally buildt of dynamite crates and pallet material. when you kids scream at boomers for having it easy, this was their reality. they had to build their houses of of scrap. you are not willing to do that you want a top notch house for the price of one made out of scrap.
>>522571764Why aren't houses this cheap in Britain?>>522571765You'll fit right in
>>522571761it's not a fancy log cabin in the middle of a ski resort being sold for only 4m
>>522571749the average American home is 2500 sqft
>>522571767>dynamite crates and palette materialboth of those are solid wood, boomers had it easy.
>>522571768>Why aren't houses this cheap in Britain?UK >half the size of Sweden >69 million people Sweden >double the size of the UK >10 million people Might be related.
>>522571746Seems like some slop cabin community
>>522571746>basic log cabinThat’s not a basic. You’re stupid
>>522571751240 sqm is tiny for Americans, they grew up in times that didn't have extreme overpopulation
>>522571766and that's a good thing
>>522571746If you want a $35k house you have to go somewhere like a ghost town in Oklahoma that doesn't have stores or jobs.
>>522571763end terrace is good
>>522571757It's fucking over. Back in the 1960s people could buy pic related with a part time job pumping gas.
>>522571764do you find many where the house is on a decent sized bit of land?
>>522571759>>522571760It's a more practical unit than using meters or liters for visualizing living space.
>>522571756It’s Canada tho
>>522571762damn dude, the former owner must have smoked a pack of day for 20 years
For that much loot I wouldn't want that many neighbors so close to my property. Also, $1900 a month in HOA fees? Yeah, you can shove this house up your ass.
>>522571746>I waaaant! Mama papa!
>>522571763Nice, they already tagged the property with my nickname in prison
>>522572038Yeah. It's northern Sweden so land is no problem. It's cheap and plentiful. Not like you can do much with it here though, the growing season is between June and August.
>>522571753That's a shed, you moron. That it happens to be made of logs is irrelevant.
>>522572273ah good. nice to have space around you.
>>522571753You call that a cabin? It doesn't even have 4 bedrooms and 2 bathrooms with an island in the kitchen and a high ceiling with a chandelier!
>>522571746>Not going for the outerbanks sound for duckhunting and boating.Literally homes you can have a boat in your backyard to float out to explore gameland and isolated stretches of beaches. Sure the flood risk are there, but he fun is that if you don't have much property to lose, you can always just pack up and leave with a truck full of your belongings.That and you can camp the intercostal waterway, which is like the Appalachian trail but for boats.
>>522572843
meh I bought 240 acres in idaho for $24k, dropped 3 urts with hanging walkways for $50K, dug a well and built a pizza oven from river clay. My 5 horses love it out there with me.
>>522571746>a basic log cabin2600 sq foot 3 story building made with a stone wall foundation, 3 bathrooms, 4 bedrooms. Nigger that's not basic. But you can look in the mirror to see a basic bitch.
>>522571759how many olympic size pools is this?ever heard of acrefeet?grains?
>>522571931May as well at this point. You can order everything you need and have it delivered to your door.
>>522571762>>522571764If I could get a residence permit, I would've moved to one of these ages ago. Peak comfy. All I need is electricity and a road to a grocery store that is traversable in winter.
>>522573864good chance you could use a skidoo to get around for the winter months out there. i could here but theres a road which is kept open so dont need one. if i was off out in the woods thats what i get.
>>522572029I miss full service. I hated washing my own windshield.
>>522572358This was good enough for Thoreau, it's good enough for you too you fat fuck.
>>522571759Fuck you, I was born that way.
>>522571746Thats a ski chalet.
>>522571766>Norway is one of the most difficult countries to emigrate tonot for shitskins
>>522571753Couples used to live with their 12 kids in these things.
>>522574043I guess, yea. Depending on how far the nearest clearable road is, it's also possible to just shovel the snow on your own or pay a bit extra to the tractor guy so that he makes a small detour.Then again, if you live far enough from the nearest town then even if the roads do get cleared regularly you'd want a snow ski for shtf e.g. a medical emergency immediately following a snowstorm.
>>522571746>basic log cabin>stone base floor>3 floors>big balcony>probably have all shit you need inside.That price makes sense.
>>522574275probably there are plenty of people who mount a plough blade on their truck or something. ive got a bunch of guys around the area who have one if you need some help shifting snow.
>>522571746>Basic log cabin>2,500+ sqftWhat's even the point of this thread? Just another slide thread?INALLFIELDS
>>522571746Everything in society is systematically expensive to make you slave. The calculated everything. The vacations to other countries are made expensive so you need to work all year to have afford a two week vaccation. The homes are expensive so you need to slave and save up giving you the hope that you maybe can afford to buy a house in the future when youre over 60. They give you loans so you need to slave to pay back the loans or they take everything back. Your only enemy is the system. Only way to fight it is not to provide anything for society and only be a burden. Be proud you are not working, they are trying to shame you for being unemployed so they can make you a slave
>>522574254What more do you need? The house is for eating and sleeping and I guess shelter from the rain. Most your time should be spent outside working the land and or teaching your kids to survive. This was human at its purest form
>>522571752Yeah so much for land of the free kek
>>522574438Dunno how it is in Sweden, maybe they often do that. In my area (north-eastern Europe) no one rigs plows to their cars even if some of the cars could sustain one (though I guess it would tank their resale value). But we live next to a road that gets cleared regularly and have an agreement with the local tractor driver that he clears our cul de sac as well. Most of year-round inhabitants also own snow blowers. If the situation were worse though I would seriously consider getting a 4wd shitbox with a plow welded onto it
>>522571752Land belongs to jew not to goyim.So that makes sense no ?
>>522571746>"basic cabin">literal mountain airbnbs for city retardsNice rage bait
>>522571746The big brain move is to buy a plot of land for cheap and build a log cabin on it yourself. It might take a few months, but it's not impossible.
>>522574805they mount on a hitch here and you just take them off for the summer. most people have some kind of truck out rural so its an easy thing to do.
>>522574282Nah, 350 sq.m made from 40cm+ logs should cost 500k at most with furniture. 600-700 with ceramic roof tiles and things like that.
>>522571746> literally never going to be able to afford a homeNot one like that for $4m of course but maybe picrel?
>>522571746Go fucking build it yourself. If you can't you'll know you're not cut out for the life.
>>522575214You know what is truly funny ?Even if you buy it, you will still have to pay taxes from owning it... so you don't own it actually you are more likely renting it. Jews made this planet living hell. So i laugh even harder when niggers complain about slavery we are all slaves...
>>522571746You HAVE TO build it yourself. Sorry. Don’t get any permission or anything and don’t have neighbors. My dad got this to work
>>522571746>pay 4 million>still have neighbors right up your ass and it's a condo , so HOA to bootany price to get away from shitskins I guess
>>522575317Here it would cost about $300. I pay about $100 in taxes for 200sq meters house 20 km from Moscow.
>>522571763Probably not a bad buy if you can convince the neighbours you really don't like children.
>>522575473same here... it's just jewish system it's everywhere.
>>522571746> $3,995,000Only now I get it:it's not real money,IT'S JEET DOLLARS!
>>522575317>Even if you buy it, you will still have to pay taxes from owning it...Property taxes for regular people in Russia are almost nonexistent.I own>1-bedroom apartment>50% of 3-bedroom apartment>33% of old babushka's house and 2000 sq meter plotAnd taxes for those are just above $60.
>>522575847any tax from what you have bought should be illegal it's literally jewish system. If i have to pay single cent to jew form what i own even one fucking single cent then im not a free but a slave.... it's about principle not about fucking how much.
>>522571746So move to West Virginia. Surrounded by green mountains. Lots of towns that are over 95% White.
>>522575938>any tax from what you have bought should be illegal it's literally jewish system.You're wrong, anon.A sensible property tax is important for real estate availability.Unused real estate should be a liability to it's owners.Otherwise boomers would just let it rot instead of selling it to people in need.
>>522575990yeah its nice there. i stayed over in a small town in WV one time when i was driving truck. the company i loaded at let me park in a quiet area across from their factory for the couple days reset period. met some nice people at the store etc and went for a walk up into the hills round about. really very nice.
>>522576077I don't care, i don't want to live in world where jew can take your shit because you didn't pay.
>>522571746Build one you manchild.
>>522576077there should be no yearly tax on your primary dwelling. here lots of people have their houses sold from under them when the tax goes up every year over and over again. its totally evil.
>>522575317You don't pay the property tax for owning anything, you pay it for using the infrastructure that once was built and is being maintained to keep your property even usable. Streets, lighting, gas, water, sewage, garbage collection... This is all included in the property tax that I pay and it's almost nothing compared to the rent that I would have to pay if I wasn't owner.
>>522576168>there should be no yearly tax on your primary dwelling.True.
>>522576179the problem is that your house is taken if you cant pay the tax. they should just cut off those services instead, as happens with literally every other service you dont pay for.
>>522576179>lighting, gas, water, sewage, garbage collectionthose are services... you pay for them you get them.>you have to pay to maintain your property...Ill do it my self jew needs to fuck off.
>>522576280they used to have a 2x property tax in my province for any other property you owed besides your main house but they scrapped that a few years ago. predictably property prices went up even more.
>>522571746The combination of faux stone walls + log walls + stick built walls is visually appalling. I hate this.
>>522575155Understandable, expected as much. No one owns pickup trucks here and most off-road capable cars are Land Cruisers 200 that their owners probably don't want to abuse for that.
>>522576168If you don't pay property tax, who is supposed to pay for the infrastructure that you use? The state? The income tax payers? Grow up already.
>>522571746>reee why can’t I buy a log cabin to live among the wealthy elite for just a few thousand dollars?!?You are one dub fuck, you could buy one in my state with 100 acres in the middle of nowhere for less thank $250k. But you’re a faggot who wants convenience and close neighbors and a strong wi-fi signal in every room, so you’ll get nothing.
>>522571747this. millennials and zoomers are just lazy and should have been born earlier. look if we didn't strip mine the US and sell it off someone else was. snooze you lose.
>>522576491>who is supposed to pay for the infrastructure that you use?the people the use them. like usual.
>>522571746>basic>2400sq foot log cabin with stone walk put basement in Big Sky MontanaYeah, you're a jew or a poo, doing the demoralization thing. Thanks for doing your part to reawaken the genetic memory of pogroms. That'll be fun.
>>522571761I want that. Can someone with a EU passport buy in Norway?
>>522571764Can a EU passport holder by in Sweden?
>>522571746move to serbia and you can have a whole complex for almost half that moneyhttps://www.kupujemprodajem.com/nekretnine-prodaja/kuce/kompleks-brvnara-1000m2-banstol/oglas/171325880?filterId=8281940890
>>522573119Can you do that, say, now? Or is that $24k now $2.4 million?Seriously, if I could find 10+ acres for less than $100k, I'd buy down there. Love Idaho, and Saskatchewan is just too damn expensive now for what you get. It is really starting to feel like a prison camp around here, everyone clotshotted and looking at you strange when they find out you didn't comply.I think it's too do with all the Mennonites?Anyone know the relation between Mennonites and pissreal? Maybe it's that:)
>>522576327> cut off those services insteadThis is hardly possible or costly and would only allow for the dilapidation of badly maintained properties affecting the security and attractiveness of a neighborhood. I wouldn't want my neighbors to keep their houses if they can't maintain them and their gardens properly. You have to consider it from the perspective of a policy maker not just from the ego of a broke owner. Example: what would a broke owner do with his wastewater? How would he dispose of it in a legal manner if he was no longer connected to the sewers?
>>522576327This. It's rent to the government. The fact that you only 'own' the top 6" should make that abundantly clear to anyone who's 'bought' property in this country.
>>522577347Saskatchewan is the only province with public telephone now, everyone else went private, proven by the fact that every other province no longer maintains its land lines but instead cuts the service and turns it to a digital one ASAP.Me and my kids don't use the school's, or the now unusable medical system, and the roads are being maintained because all the farmers having to haul their grain to the city with semis are now beating them to shit, something I shouldn't have to cover. Property tax is rent, plain and simple.
>>522577347>This is hardly possible or costlythink about it more carefully, case by case. its perfectly doable and means that the government cant just steal your house when they keep increasing the tax every year. >dont pay your tax - no garbage collection>no right to use the roads>or use the schools>etcwith stuff like the fire service it would be that if you dont pay your tax you have to pay a higher per call out fee or something like that.>>522577373it is and its wrong.
>>522576382> those are servicesYes and no. The municipality builds and maintains the infrastructure that is being used by providers to sell you water, electricity, gas etc. You pay the providers for what you consume and you pay the municipality for maintaining the infrastructure. Your consumption may vary and with it the price you pay for it but the maintenance of the infrastructure usually remains the same and for this reason it's simply included in the property tax. It's different with fiber for internet but this is a recent thing and optional, not necessary to properly use and maintain a house.
>>522577938>you pay the municipality for maintaining the infrastructure.well, not where i live. the power company owns and maintains all their infrastructure. if you dont pay your bill they will eventually just cut your power off. this is normal and fair. they dont come and take your house.
>>522577938the municipality builds the infrastructure with taxpayer shekels then the mayor sells it to his cousin's utilities firm for peanuts.. and finally the cousin sells you utilities with extra prejudice. >do you even neoliberalism moortugese bro?
>>522576687You can't afford to have a road built, have power lines, gas pipes, water pipes, sewage pipes built just to use your single house. This usually has to be organized and prepared and managed for several houses at once and this is what the municipality is for. By buying property in their area you make a contract with them. If you don't like this you don't have to buy it.
That's not a real log cabin. That's a mansion/palace with the log cabin aesthetic. A real log cabin is just one fucking room. 800-900 sq. Plumbing is outdoors in an outhouse.
>>522571761Bro that wood is in terrible condition
>>522571762>Plenty of cheap options in my general area.This is in Ramsele, a tiny town 50 km by road from nearest biggest city, in northen Sweden. Ramsele has lost 50% of its population over the last 50 years which is why this house is so cheap, there are only old people left.
>be me>live innawoods>work innawoods>happy
>>522578378its not just my house, and we only have powerlines, which are paid for by the power company. what dont you get about that? the government doesn't build our powerlines, and the power company doesn't come steal my house if i quit paying the bill.if you dont pay your taxes, your right to use the road is revoked. simple really isn't it.
>>522571746I has three bathes tho
>>522577886The gov wouldn't steal my house unless I wanted this to happen. For a mortgage I could always get a loan from the bank and keep paying the property tax and eventually pay the loan back and have the mortgage released again. If I couldn't use the infrastructure I also couldn't live here, not humanely i.e. This is capitalism, you are supposed to have the money that you need to fulfill your obligations.
>>522578974im just saying that its wrong to steal someones house if they cant pay their property tax. theres no connect between the two. if its about paying for services then simply cut off those services to the house. its really not a hard concept, and is actual 'capitalism' instead of state coercion.
>>522576491There would still be enough property tax revenue on commercial real estate and vacation properties to pay for infrastructure and neccessary services. The government would simply have to stop pissing our money away on other useless bullshit. No one should lose their home because the government is too greedy and stupid to live within their means like the rest of us have to.
>>522576491Ideally the politicians who want to get into power, from their own pockets. The only fair election is when politicians promise to pay to people when they are elected. Whoever promises more gets the post. Not vice versa.
>>522571746On one hand /pol/ pretends to worship heritage and roots. On the otherhand /pol/ resents anyone who inherited ancestral land etc. lol.
>>522571746you mentally defective cunt, that's a ski cabin that you can let for mega jewbux during the season. go live your schitzophrenic unabomber dreams in some $150k place in the woods.
>>522579170>stop pissing our money away on other useless bullshit.very much this. when you live in a stupid fucking place like i do and you see the retarded shit they waste billions on every year, its really very hard to accept that property taxes have to go up 5-10% every year because my local area is struggling to pay for basic shit......and the fact that they can and do take your house is even worse.
>>522571755This but unironically.Mutts stopped conquering the Americas to go fight in muddy trenches in France and Italy. I believe new Mexico or Arizona became a State only in 1913. Come 1917 all the manifest destiny is forgotten
>>522571763Nice Savile Shack, my mate Jim'll fix it up.
>>522571753That's a shedThis is a log cabin>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNTfLGt59qo
>>522571768>Why aren't houses this cheap in Britain?Because this is a dead area. I suggest you look it up on google maps. The other swede is being dishonest, he is cherry picking houses from withered areas instead of picking houses from still living zones. Here: https://www.hemnet.se/bostader?item_types%5B%5D=villa&item_types%5B%5D=fritidshus&item_types%5B%5D=radhus&item_types%5B%5D=gard&item_types%5B%5D=other&expand_locations=100000Check for yourself. Stand alone housing. Beware of collectively owned row houses, these are called "bostadsrättsföreningar", you arent buying anything physical, just membership, this membership allows you to rent. As you can see typical house prices in southern Sweden countryside is 200-400K, comparable to America, trough the magic of infinite, interest only mortages.
>>522571757>This is a chalet at a skiing resort, isn't it?^^^ this. the same fucking place in a normal area is a pittance, even with a massive amount of land: https://www.landsearch.com/properties/montana/filter/sort=price,tag=cabin
>>522571746Thats a boomer McCmansion. Probably has a fucking elevator kek
>>522571753Andy sixx lives in a log cabin
>>522571768>Why aren't houses this cheap in Britain?they're not glorified caravans built from cardboard and popsicle sticks.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sB-P8HnkvKohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IftnB9XzYfY
>>522571746If you think this is a basic log cabin you are too retarded to be a homeowner and belong giving your money to kikes to baby sit you.
>>522571751looks like A. Crowley
>>522579399>On one hand /pol/ pretends to worship heritage and roots.
>>522571746That's AI
>>522576917>Can a EU passport holder by in Sweden?Yes, and that is the problem, that even if you would keep foreigners out in your own EU country it only takes a Goymany to give 10 million syrians EU passports and now they can go to any EU country they pleaseSchengen made only sense when it was just White Europeans but now with the mass migration its just a national security nightmare
>>522580085Heritage is passed from you fatger and grandfathers who had a connection with their father and grandfathers etc etc. It's like a direct chain. You can't have it unless it was passed directly regardless of where you were born.
>>522576491Unsure if you’re actually from whatever country you’re posting from but in America you pay taxes for the same thing 3+ times. Take road use tax, in my area you also pay $0.40 per gallon of gas for road use tax, you pay per mile per year on car and there are tolls on every highway. 3 taxes so the state can pay DOT workers a very low wage to do hardly anything. The issue is t the amount of taxes collected it’s the efficiency and how they implement them.
>>522577347>Example: what would a broke owner do with his wastewater? How would he dispose of it in a legal manner if he was no longer connected to the sewers?there are definitely a few harder points to address, though main drainage isn't something that people generally have outside of areas in and close to larger towns. no one around here has it for example - we all just have a septic tank, our own wells etc. it would be harder to implement the plan id prefer to town and city houses but for rural homes its very easy. However, you could do it where if the owner cant afford the entire property tax bill they could opt to pay for the portion that is allotted to the sewer costs and skip the rest if necessary.
>>522571764>abborrbergjust google mapped all those places and they're deep in the woods in the middle of bumfuck nowhere.This is not viable for 99% of people that aren't fully remote or retired.
>>522582345>However, you could do it where if the owner cant afford the entire property tax bill they could opt to pay for the portion that is allotted to the sewer costs and skip the rest if necessary.So when you "opt out" of paying for schools does the town take back the education (You) got at someone else's expense when you were a child? Whey you opt out of a fire department will the fire department just let your house burn down and take the rest of the neighborhood with it because you didn't pay? Will police stop arresting the criminals that intended ONLY to victimize you?Grow the fuck up, get a fucking job, and if you can be a non-nigger long enough to own a home buy it in a place where you agree with their municipal spending or that allows you to vote on what they spend.
>>522571766start daily visiting a tanning booth for a year and learn Arab and you're golden
>>522584260>So when you "opt out" of paying for schools does the town take back the education (You) got at someone else's expense when you were a child?no....but that was paid for at the time obviously. > will the fire department just let your house burn down and take the rest of the neighborhood with it because you didn't pay?no, like i said, the owner would be liable for a one time fee for the call out. kind of like those policies you can get for road side assistance - you either pay for the policy up front every year and dont have to pay for a call out, or you count on not needing them and then have to foot a much higher fee if you do.like i say, its easier to apply this stuff to rural houses because theres less people and less services in general.>Will police stop arresting the criminals that intended ONLY to victimize you?no, but again, if you need to call them out you pay for it.>Grow the fuck up, get a fucking job,fuck you you dumb nig. what a faggot you must be to think its ok for the government to steal your house if you cant pay their ever rising tax bill. they dont do that in the UK by the way.
>>522580248Sorry, I meant buy?
>>522571746>basic log cabinNigger this is listed as a condominium, it's multiple living spaces in one building.
>>522571746>parents didn’t give him 4 millionShow everyone how white you are and how toothless your mom is
>>522571746Lol it's still just 20k for a lot and a cabin. You just arnt willing to go north enough. If you have the internet it shouldn't matter where a person lives. People who pay inflated prices on credit and claim to be home "owners" are mentally ill.
>>522584568>the owner would be liable for a one time fee for the call outSo what's the "or else" if they don't pay? Ask nicely?>its easier to apply this stuff to rural housesNo it isn't. I'm tax collector for my town population 600 and there's no way you're going to make a municipal budget work on some ala carte method or by asking nice for donations.>its ok for the government to steal your houseBut it's OK for you to steal all those municipal services from your fellow townspeople? In your fantasy world how does tax liens and foreclosures work?
>>522571746>log cabin>condolol, lmao.
>>522585337like with any unpaid bills like credit cards etc. you get a bad record which can start causing you issues in other areas.>But it's OK for you to steal all those municipal services from your fellow townspeople?like what? im saying that you lose service when you dont pay for them. its a radical concept i guess.
>>522571746It's because the lower part has decorative stones around the wood, this is not normal in the US and therefore it's an exclusive piece of real estate
>>522580061Spengler mogs Crowley the fag hard
>>522585566>you get a bad recordWell that'll help the town maintain roads, buildings, and firefighting equipment.>im saying that you lose service when you dont pay for them.What you're not grasping is that EVERYBODY loses those services if niggers like you don't feel like paying. Sending collection letters to some nigger isn't going to magic up a 1.2M firetruck, put a new HVAC system in the school, or plow the roads in the winter. Now tell us how you think tax lien mortgages and foreclosures work.
>>522571746Maybe don't get a 2011 designer mansion in a ski resort.Look around in Washington state.
>>522586258>Well that'll help the town maintain roads, buildings, and firefighting equipment.fact is that most people are happy to pay and would do so even without the disgusting threat of having their homes stolen. I guess its a very foreign concept for you but how about positive incentives instead of threats? You could have certain benefits and perks when you pay your taxes and have a good record of doing so. you know how in some hospitals, libraries etc there are wall displays showing the names of the highest donations to the place? you could do something like that. even yard signs or window and car stickers, anything as a way for people to 'show off' their support. like being a member of a club or something. anything is better than living under threat of the state taking your house.>What you're not grasping is that EVERYBODY loses those services if niggers like you don't feel like paying. so if a few people cant afford the entire tax bill each year the whole thing fails? sounds like bullshit to me. funny how that doesn't apply to things like power companies or any other kind of service provided by a company, who can survive just fine if i decide to quit using their service.your problem is that you love the coercion of it all and look down on the people. its obvious. >Sending collection letters to some nigger isn't going to magic up a 1.2M firetruckfund raise. thats what we do round here. people love to support the fire hall VOLUNTARILY already. you dont need to threaten to steal peoples homes to get them to give towards it.> plow the roads in the winteragain, most people are happy to support stuff like this and many pay people to plow their driveways too, which is also voluntarily done.>school hvacfund raise. why should i pay for shit in a government school i dont support or want to use in any way?
>>522571746>> fucking 4 million for a basic log cabin4 million to not be around niggers
>>522584621Yes, that what I answered to. EU passport holder can live, work, buy, whatever in any other EU country. For an individual EU countries are more like American states now.
>>522571746I used to live in a log cabin like that. They're poorly insulated and filled with spiders.
>>522587520So what that means as long as the Schengen is going on, it doesn't help if your own EU country curbs immigration if there is even a single other EU country that doesn't.There even has been schemes like the corrupt Cyprus selling EU passports to kike oligarchs with their "golden investor" schemes, so now all the kike oligarchs in Russia hold Russian, Israeli and Cyprus(EU) citizenship
>>522574579some anons want the appearance of all that but in reality want all teh comforts of a modern life, so in essence larpers who could survive a week without modern appliances
>>522571759Amritards can't think
>>522571746Even very plain houses in Compton are pushing $1M
>>522571746>I need a million dollar house!>I'm a stupid nigger!>I will complain on the internet like a fragile woman!>Whaaaahhhhhh!You sound weak willed and too faggoty.If you can't figure out a way to get what you want you don't deserve it.
>>522571757It some kind of bot. I don't know what its goal is, though unless its to see how many times it can get called a queer faggot retard.Why would anyone program a bot for such a thing?
>>522572910>a single wide from the 70s on a half a acre>wroth 135klamo
>>522586898>fact is that most people are happy to paySource: Some faggot NEET who is demanding a free ride.Again, I'm tax collector in my town and not one single person doesn't bitch about their property tax, NOBODY has come in to volunteer to pay a little extra or leave me a tip. >how about positive incentivesToo bad you can't pay the light bill at the town hall, a new blade for the grader, or 40 tons of salt with good boy points or that just might work.>so if a few people cant afford the entire tax bill each year the whole thing fails?As it stands a few truly hard luck cases can get help from the state, local charities, church, or an abatement from the town administration, but you're talking about making your municipal budget ala carte somehow. When you become an adult you should sit through your town's budget committee meetings and see what your expenses are and how they are paid.>funny how that doesn't apply to things like power companiesBecause apart from the Amish, nobody is opting out of the electric grid.>you love the coercionI don't, it's just that you're a child and have never seen a municipal budget so you cannot fathom why your little fantasy is not sufficient to fund a municipality.>people love to support the fire hall VOLUNTARILYYou think they're collecting enough in the boot or at the bake sale to fund all their equipment, buildings, and activities? Our volunteer fire department gets some fair generosity as well with pot luck dinners, gun raffles, and shit but they're still a 90,000 line item on our annual budget because they only pull in about 15-20% of their actual cost out of charity and that's with a couple people in town who are extremely generous.>why should i pay for shit in a government schoolBecause some other poor fuck was forced to pay for yours and because society at large believes that the cost of collectivizing public education is better than the alternative.
>>522589081>its ok for the state to steal your house if you cant pay their demands>no, i cant possibly try to think of a less nasty and coercive way to do things.>unlike every single other service people ever pay for in life, my government stuff MUST be funded through force and threats of making people homeless.what a bitter twisted fuck head you are. seriously, you sound a really nasty little fag.
>>522589081and you still ignore the fact that they dont have to threaten to steal peoples houses over non payment of council tax in the UK. you seem to have such a low opinion of the people you collect from, so are the brits better? there are other ways of doing this stuff but its not surprising that you dont want to even consider them.
>>522571746If it's basic, how much would it cost to buy a cheap plot of land for under 100k and then build it, or have it built?
>>522572051LMAO
>>522571746We need a new homestead act so zoomers die in the wilderness trying to live in storage crates.
