AND THROW THE ILLEGALS OUT
> https://www.the-sun.com/news/15415773/usps-reverses-non-domiciled-driver-rule-illegal-immigrant-truck/
>>522572595based who needs a functioning mailing system, just give all our money to Bezos! MIGA!
>>522572648At least Amazon delivers my shit.At my work we constantly have to deal with USPS stealing, sending back shit for no reason, delivering stuff 3 months later, etc.
>>522572648>functioning mailing system
>cripple a service>blame it for no longer working>why not use this other service that will fuck you over on purpose in the future?and they keep falling for it.
>>522572860so true we should give bezos everything and the people nothing, we're just worthless goy compared to his genius>>522572936I love when corporations have total control!
>>522572987>>522573030>keep running a business that loses billions of dollars every year or sell the assets for billions to a private company and tax it?You guys must be millionaires
>>522573247yes let's just treat everything like a business that needs a huge profit. SOMEONE has to be making billions, otherwise what's the point? I desperately want rich men to control every aspect of my life
>>522573247Usps isnt a business retard. No wonder the jews enslaved you, youre utterly mindbroken or a jew urself.
>>522573247posts like this remind of why the US was so easily bought by kikes and Russians.>corporate swine lobby to cripple services>sell the idea that a constitutional right is a "business" losing money>use my service instead so I can jew you and your country for every nickel and dime!post nose and hang yourself you obvious kike.
>>522572648>>522573030>>522573322cease this anti-economic zone sentiment immediately
>>522573322The value of sending snail mail is zero. 99% of snail mail is bills people already get via email and junk mail. It's a subsidized ups, FedEx, etc at this point.
>>522572595Why are boomers obsessed with getting rid of USPS ? It’s basically the only thing the federal government is allowed to actually do
>>522573739exactly, so lets find a billionaire and give it to him instead! this makes perfect sense
>>522573739The IRS owed me a fat check after they overcharged me a couple years, and some USPS nigger stole it. Had to go through a whole thing, and I hope he's arrested now, but probably not.
>>522572595My good friend works for USPS. He tells me that well over half their "business" is just delivering packages for Amazon - Amazon contracts the USPS out for deliveries when they don't have the trucks or drivers to make the deliveries themselves.Amazon pretty much already owns the postal service, in everything but name. Hardly anyone actually uses the post office for delivering actual mail.
>>522572648Republicans really should destroy the USPS. It subsidizes rural communities since there's no economic activity or human life worth respecting or trading with in these areas. There is no justification for the real American economic engine in cities to pay for them and, in fact, no one would pay for their postage given a choice. They produce nothing of real purpose or value and their entire civic life wills to self-enslavement. It's time that they are given what they want.
>>522572648>hates Trump>wants him to control the mail systemYou kikes are like broken bots at this point
That would solve nothing, Amazon follows less regulations than the USPS.
>>522574039
cant we just automate this all?
>>522573971they produce food, oil and natural resources you need to function you useless parasite. your job consists of typing 0s and 1s for 8hours and calling it a day.
>>522573971>there is no justificationHow about "the rural communities grow all the food the cities eat"? Or did you think burgers came from the grocery store?Destroying the USPS would take a literal Constitutional Amendment. The Constitution *requires* that the postal service exists and is provided for. They're practically a fourth branch of government. No one is ever going to be able to make a good argument to get rid of it.
>>522574086fuck off kike your pilpul isn't working
>mfw even the government employs illegals
>>522574169A Mexican or a nigger can do any one of these jobs (and often do). You are replaceable slaves and regional GDP is the the most brutal truth of the value you serve that there is.
>>522574208my bad, like i was saying we desperately need to figure out a way to sell off more of our countries services and infrastructure to the elites, even foreign ones! money is all that matters
>>522574287and you are already getting replaced by ranjeet and the pooja squad who will gladly do your job for 40% of your salary.
>>522574191In terms of paper mail the US government should assign you a government email address and by default send you everything there the same way you have a mailing address. The postal system is a antiquated system for regular paper mail. I like in a HOA and we saved so much money when we went 100% digital with our internal notification system
>>522574287>"muh GDP"Nigger, paying somebody $100 to dig a hole and someone else $100 to fill the hole back in increases the GDP by $200 despite nothing having actually been achieved. "Muh GDP" means absolutely dick-all.
>>522574323>Trump bad but I want him to have more power at the same timekill yourself kike
>>522573247The postal service is in the actual constitution, before the bill of rights
>>522574384lol you're actually retarded
>>522574441You are a disingenuous kike who can't even remain consistent
>WE HAVE TO GET RID OF ILLEGALS>NOOOOOOOOO GRANDMA WON'T GET MY CARD
>>522572595Maybe they should hire white men and pay them a decent wage
>>522574506Yeah that's the point idiot. I'm mocking retards like you. Fucking 70 IQ, how do you even operate a computer?
I work for royal mailWe got privatised a few years backThe service has basically collapsed. Some delivery offices have backlogs measured in weeks. With christmas coming up some of the offices are going to end up with mail backlogs measured in MONTHSFundamentally there is no money in mail. If you charge what it costs to deliver then no one will use it because its too expensive. This is why private companies don't do mail. Our management is hyper focused on parcels and has decided to just pay the fines on the failed mail deliveries.
>>522572595Never forget that the economy is what rules over you, not the government.
>>522574359You saved so much money because it is a felony to send your own mail, even if the destination is three houses down the road, you *must* send it through the USPS.Creating an entire department just to manage and regulate emails would cost way, way more money than just keeping the current system. Like, you have no idea how expensive and labor-intensive the government would make that. They wouldn't even get rid of the USPS and replace it - they'd keep both systems, and then tax you more for the "privilege" of maintaining both. Don't fucking give them ideas, the government is bloated enough as is.
>>522572595ha ha ha ho ho ho he he he
>>522572595Beaners in usps are 100% working for the cartels.
>>522574550>literally admits he is a retardkikes aren't sending their best
>>522572860>the world is like my methhead trailer park that no one wants to deliver to
>>522572648> functioning mailing system>USPSPick one
>>522572595>Sell it to AmazonAll the Amazon drivers in Canada are street shitting niggers
>>522574582We saved more because we didn't waste money on paper and ink and we send a lot of internal messages to ever HOA member>Creating an entire department just to manage and regulate emails would cost way, way more money than just keeping the current system.Why?
>>522574603Genuinely one of the dumbest users I've encountered here in a while, congrats >>522574628exactly lets just sell it off to rich zionist billionaires instead of fixing it. Do you fucking retards get it now?
>>522574670>kike who hates Trump but wants him to continue having more power and running the postal system is saying this
>>522574560Hilariously, in the game Anno 1800, you can forbid lower class citizens from being able to send or receive mail and restrict it to upper class citizens, and this is a financially positive decision to make. The poor can't afford to pay what mail actually costs. If you let them use mail, you're essentially subsidizing their happiness metrics.This is almost a 1:1 match for real-life mail systems.
usps delivers ~40% of amazons packages. if we shut it down they would just stop servicing rural areas
>>522574724>50 IQ retard incapable of understanding nuance in language >needs sarcasm to be followed with /s
>>522574932>"I hate Trump Trump bad wah wah">"no one else should run the postal system just the guy I say is bad"retard kike
>>522574669Electricity costs for maintaining servers. A million Indian "technicians" that would fuck it up more than they would maintain it. Two million bureaucrats to manage it all. Security. Waste. Corruption. Bribery. Surveillance over people's personal communications.And even then, it would still manage to be down half the time, and barely functioning at all the other half. Imagine the DMV, but at a national scale. That's what you're talking about. I repeat: do NOT give them ideas.
>>522574764So we should shut the USPS down and just subsidize companies to do that 40%
>>522575021>braindead migger cannot think beyond trump gud trump bad>this is why our country is in the state it is today
>>522572595the postal service is enshrined in the constitution, all they have to do to fix the usps is fire all the niggers. I usually never have an issue with usps or ups, amazon logistics is hit or miss because niggers, fedex is fucking dogshit though.
>>522572648>be cocksucking shitlib maggot retard>escalate immigration and celebrate it>it destroys infrastructure completely>"now its your fault you did this"Break it down for me, how long do libscum have before they're being openly hunted in the streets along with their fucking niggers, spics and jeets?
>>522575059This all exists within the current postal system. It would be no different than the current system only you don't need drivers or postal offices. Literally every negative down to your efficiency claims is what we experience today with the current system
>>522575191>niggers are bad so we should give all of our money to the richest men on earth and lock down a system of life long fealty because being a peasant is good apparently
>>522575082>migger>I hate Trump>but he should run the postal systemyou kikes are so dumb it's painful
>>522574287>A Mexican or a nigger can do any one of these jobs (and often do).They literally cannot you fucking retarded ape brained shitskin mutt motherfucker. That's what the ENTIRE FUCKING THREAD is about.Holy shit you have no conceivable idea how close you are to being turned into paste.
>>522572987>>cripple a serviceYou're right, we need to fully fund USPS and give into every demand their union has. We need to staff every mail truck with 45 drivers at any given time and every single one of them needs to be paid a living wage of triple overtime every second of every day. If only we can give them the $800 Trillion dollars they need to operate, they can provide excellent service.
>>522575262>so instead let Trump one of the richest men on earth run it
>>522575273>you kikes>desperately attempting to defend rich billionaire kikes all thread>>5225753112 more weeks?>>522575313>pic related
>>522575066>just give bezos the federal mail service Fuck you commie . Die.
>>522575363>be a kike>claims to hate the rich but is ol with a rich man running USPSpic related is you
>>522575107>is fire all the niggersThis would fix every government department. However, it would create a new problem: millions of unemployed, starving, feral niggers, who would still have to be subsidized or else you risk open revolt.While I am not opposed to allowing the niggers to revolt so we can justify putting them all down and finally ending the menace once and for all, the government is less enthusiastic about that idea.It's simply a fact that most government jobs are simply make-work, bullshit jobs to keep niggers "gainfully employed" rather than letting them run around the streets unleashed. Probably 70% or more government jobs are literally just covert nigger welfare. That was our solution to the Nigger Question. Firing them all would be directly contrary to that solution. Again, I wouldn't mind firing them all, and I'd even encourage it because that's a much better and more permanent solution, but I'm not the one who makes that call.
>>522575059>Imagine the DMV, but at a national scaleAny DMV I've been to has been perfectly functional. If they are slow it's due purely to lack of staff, which obviously wouldn't be an issue for a service primarily run by computers and simply maintained by humans. There's plenty of electronic government services I use that are reliable. This all strikes me as confabulatory libertarian nonsense,>I don't know why it would be bad but if it's government then it must be bad!We can't even really say the surveillance would be an issue since we know the NSA can read everything already.
>>522575365What I am proposing is the opposite of communism kike
>>522575365>the federal mail serviceNoooooo!!! We must protect the integrity of junk mail slop for boomers to be delivered only by union-scale niggers who make $180k/year!!!!!
>>522575236You aren't considering that it's the government we're talking about here.They wouldn't scrap the USPS stuff. They'd make an entirely NEW department for the email stuff, keep the old department, and charge the taxpayer for both departments, "because many people still use snail mail".They wouldn't fix the waste. They'd make more waste. It's the government. You KNOW I'm right.
this thread is full of jeetbots trying to convince americans that its better to hand over public services to billionaires
>>522574749It's not just the general public who use mail. Businesses, government services and more all rely on it. And our society still privileges paper documents over digital ones. You could restrict it to those who can afford to pay for direct couriers. But there would need to be changes made to society and law to accommodate this.>>522574764Similar story here. Private courier firms generally focus their efforts around larger towns and cities. They'll ignore everything else.Amazon is the same. >>522575066Why?
>>522572595>SHUT THE USPS DOWN, SELL IT TO AMAZONWrong and backwards. Federalize Amazon as part of the USPS. I thought this was a natsoc board.
>>522575300As I recall in the USA you got mailmen claiming welfare because their pay is that low.
>>522575593You would save money still if we did this as you would require less people to deliver subsidized junk mail for corporations and eventually you require corporations to adopt this system to so we would eliminate all snail mail. Package deliveries the only thing remaining can be outsourced to UPS. The only thing stopping this is boomers who don't want to change as this was the major hurdle for my HOA. What I am proposing will become reality after the boomers die I 100% guarantee you
>>522575692To save money
>>522575474>Any DMV I've been to has been perfectly functionalLovely anecdote. I've got one of my own: every DMV I've ever been to has been horrible, except for the one I went to that had an old white guy running the desk, that one was awesome.>there's plenty of electronic government services I use that are reliableAnother anecdote. There's plenty of e-services I use that are fucking AWFUL. I can do this all day, buddy.>This sounds like confabulatory libertarian nonsenseAd hom.>the NSA already surveils everything anywaySo let's make it easier for them? Do you even hear yourself?
>>522575685Hating someone just because they have a lot of money is insane and retarded. Absolute poorfaggot behavior too. Rich guys are still civilians, the government is not.
>>522575786Considering that Amazon would know you're paying them whatever it takes to subsidise those deliveries whats to stop them just jacking up the price to the state constantly?
>>522572595You'll have to get a Constitutional amendment to abolish or privatize the Postal Service.
>>522575811You are closer to poverty that jeff bezos ever will be, you're like a serf worshipping a lord. embarrassing and unamerican
>>522572595Start your own postal service. You live in the free market stop being lazy.
>>522575850legally binding contracts also they already have market dominance now
>>522575753How? Isn't it a Government job with Government benefits?
>>522575759No, the major thing stopping this is the CONSTITUTION, numbnuts. You aren't going to convince 50 states, and millions of USPS/government employees, with all the waste and corruption they benefit from, to cut their own throats and amend the Constitution to eliminate the USPS. You aren't. It will never, ever happen. The only solution to getting rid of the USPS is to literally overthrow the US government and toss out the Constitution. Good luck.
it wouldn't go to amazon, it would go to UPS. amazon doesn't have nearly the same distribution network as UPS does, having large gaps in rural areas, mainly concentrated in urban centers. To fulfill their obligation to be an affordable service provider for everyone, UPS would get the contract. Amazon would need to build many many more warehouses before they get the contract (and actually have trained drivers)
>>522575931Because oy vey its a business goyim and has to fuck its personnel over like a business.>>522575925Contracts come up for renewal or renegotiation.So lets say Amazon goes "sure goy we'll deliver to rural areas in exchange for a subsidy for ten years"Ten years come and go. Amazon says "oy these rural deliveries are so hard for us. Such work. We're going to demand you give us ten times the subsidy to continue."US gov says "no"Amazon says "Oh well nobody delivers amazon parcels to rural areas anymore AND we're putting on our site that its ALL YOUR FAULT! enjoy the next election"
>>522575999UPS wouldn't want it
>>522575941>CONSTITUTIONAka>old thing can't be changed because its oldbut this is a different argument I was talking about efficiency and saved costs changing this would bring.>You aren't going to convince 50 states, and millions of USPS/government employees>can't make efficient changes and modernize because people might lose their jobs and unions actively stifle positive changesagain another retarded argument
>>522573247The government can't "lose" money. It creates money. It does not need your tax money in order to spend. It needs to spend so YOU have income at origin.
>>522576064US gov goes to DHL then or any other delivering companies that wants a lucrative contract.
>>522573322>I desperately want rich men to control every aspect of my lifeYes comrade if only the government could control every aspect of your life instead!Amazon wouldn't exist if the US government wasn't a bloated corrupt monstrosity. You retards need to study the concept of cause and effect
>>522576151>just keep playing musical chairs with companies every 10 years or so!>this is efficient! >>522576167>amazon controlling my life is better than the government miggers really want people to believe this
>>522572595>You mean I have to wait longer for my packagaes to arrive in the mail? RELEASE THE BROWN SLAVES!!!Fuck this gay earth full of retarded niggers and their sympathizers.
>>522576097>UPS wouldn't want a government contract to be the courier of choice for every american when they nearly already are, and editing many of the existing assets that aren't physical simply requires deleting a lettersure
>>522576233>I hate rich people and they shouldn't run the mail system but billionaire Trump should run the mail systemretard kike
>>522576167The entire point of government is to provide public services that people use. USPS shouldn't privatize, Amazon should federalize.
>>522575886And he is closer to me than a glow creature will ever be. You also seem to not know much though. Otherwise you'd know that serfs often had good relationships with their lords and would even negotiate better contracts and such.
>>522576278UPS wouldn't want to be forced to deliver outside their network to rural areas.Hell they hand off parcels to royal mail here in the UK to dodge having to go some rural areas because their vans can't handle the terrain.
>>522576330>And he is closer to meactual embarrassing delusion. you are worth less than a fart to someone like bezos. i cant imagine what it must be live life with such a pathetic mindset like this, this retarded nigger really thinks billionaires share his interests lmao
>>522572860You know WHY that is, Right?Semi-literate Niggers have been given access and then PREFERENCE to what used to be a highly revered, high trust service.I have relatives in nw Ohio,(I know, they are retards who moved there for God knows what reasons,) and to send a letter across the street...no LITERALLY across the street, the mail gets picked up, sorted in some nigger rich, DEI Apefirmative action office, then shipped all the way up to Detoilet, where it sits for 3 weeks, then back into another truck where it gets shipped back DOWN to the same office it started, then eventually, as long as there are no gift cards, bank cards or holiday cards that might have cash in them, they MIGHT get some of their mail along with a thick stack of junk mail and a few of the neighbor's bills.I once tried to report a mailbox tampering to the postmaster in the area... Name was some variant of Shaniqua. You can guess how that turned out.Just in looking for an image of damaged mail to post yields hundreds of pics from Britain too.Just goes to show, High trust White society mechanisms and services cannot be maintained by retarded shitskins.Of course, Niggers and turd worlders must think it's MAGIC that you could give something to someone else and they will do what they say they will with it; and their lack of future time orientation will ENSURE that when Whitey is finally pushed out completely of the institutions THEY created, they will cease to work at all, and just become another performative, cargo-cult-esque aping of real humans.
>>522572595>replace institutions with browns>"Uh oh we can't get rid of brown people or everything will stop. guess they're here forever."
>>522576278Also hypothetically if this happened and it wouldn't but if it did entire companies would spring up devoted to this the same way Amazon caused "last mile delivery" companies aka 3rd party companies that did Amazon deliveries that cost Amazon money to fill this demand. These companies never existed before Amazon and the free market created them
>>522576233>miggersYes, calling for small government really means supporting the federal government you fucking idiot.
>>522576278Yeah, this is how you know all the propaganda over the postal service is bullshit. If it was such a bad business, why do they want to privatize it?One of the most straightforward ways to improve the postal service would be to massive expand its ranks and pay the employees more.The postal service should be ramped up, and set to the task of putting services like DoorDash out of business.
>>522576367That's why you subsidize them so they do it. See >>522576455 even though there are places Amazons doesn't want to deliver 3rd party companies were created to do this for them
>>522576493>small government>run by massive internationalist corporationsmigger please
>>522576431Privatising it and handing it over to the same megacorps that worship niggers isn't the way to fix it.>>522576521And again they'll take it the one year then overcharge you the next.And bear in mind we're just talking about amazon parcels here. Not even considering parcels from other sources or mail
>>522572595Only if it remains a free service and they stop filling my mailbox with junk mail
>>522576064This guy knows exactly the kind of fuckery that goes on. Good post, Anon, excellent work.I can attest to what he's talking about personally. Abercrombie & Fitch opened up a major distribution center in a town near where I used to live. In exchange for the jobs and the boost to the local economy this provided, they got promises from the mayor to not be taxed on their property for 50 years. Sounds fair, right?Wrong. When that 50 years is up, Abercrombie will go to the mayor and say "hey, so I know our deal is running out, but you're going to give us another 50 years of tax exemption or we're going to shut our DC down, you'll have hundreds of jobs lost, your local gas stations will flounder without our fleets buying their gas, the entire town in fact is going to be pissed at you, and you still won't get any money because we'll have sold the property off, or marked it as a nature preserve, or some other untaxable loophole".BritAnon here knows exactly how corporations interact with public governmental entities - they ruthlessly exploit and strongarm them into compliance and submission. Every fucking time. Anyone who is saying we should just roll the USPS into Amazon is INSANE.
>>522572860If you wonder why, anon >>522576431 is right. The post office is a jobs program for niggers so they're not killing each other in the streets. And black women especially are always preferred for management.
>>522572987The usps was a fucking joke to start. They leave my outgoing shit all the time and misdeliver stuff regularly.Things that say do not bend are bentWhy u defending these clowns. It should be overhauled. My post offices are all the most ghetto building in town in every town I lived.
>>522573322>>522573518>>522573550Communist boomer faggots love their communist mail system
>>522573518Then why does it charge money?
>>522576695>globalism is bad10 years later>we need to give chunks of our government to the globalists
>>522576100I never said you couldn't change them. Don't strawman me.What I said was you couldn't change them outside an armed revolution. The system is terminal and has been for a long, long time. The problem is systemic. You won't fix the problem from within the system - you have to let the entire system die and start over.
>>522576610Yea so I addressed this already and you ignored it since you had no retort I guess so I will just send you to my reply again that you ignored here >>522576151
>>522576641But I don't advocate for giving it to bozos
>>522576615>Anyone who is saying we should just roll the USPS into Amazon is INSANE.Anybody who spergs out this hard about an entity whose function is to subsidize junk mailers by delivering their slop for a pittance is insane.
>>522572595Sounds like a perfect argument against mail-in ballots and online shopping to me. Why stress the system to the point the immigrants are crucial?
>>522573550> constitutional rightThe postal service isn’t a constitutional right
>>522576764Yes and another anon pointed out that you wind up playing musical chairs with companies every time the contract comes up for renewal. Also facing the possibility of them just walking away at any point because they decide its not profitable enough (happens a lot in the UK with trains)
>>522576752>I never said you couldn't change themMy entire argument was talking about efficiency and waste in this hypothetical. I knew the bureaucracy would make this impossible to change any time soon but since you had no answer to my argument you deflected to something I wasn't talking about. I know it would be hard to change. Never said otherwise. Just saying the change would be cheaper and more efficient
>>522572595USPS is a disaster. I delivered something to the US once, it got stuck in customs, spent months there, then the address on the letter got smudged over that time and they claimed it undeliverable.
>>522572595It's peak season. USPS always does this shit. They laid off more than they thought was sustainable and are now panic hiring. Every year they do this and every year I laugh as a UPS driver.
>>522576904Royal Mail does the same.It'll limit hiring during the year to save money overworking the existing staff so more leave.Then christmas rolls around and everything falls apart so they panic hire a bunch of people the majority of whom leave within the first week because they don't realise how rough the job is.
>>522576864>Yes and another anon pointed out that you wind up playing musical chairs with companies every time the contract comes up for renewal.and I pointed out that the moment there was a demand for delivery to places Amazon refused to go, small 3rd party companies came into existence to fill this hole due to the free market. There would be no "musical chairs" due to that and even if it didn't UPS and DHL and all these companies already have distribution networks country wide there is no "musical chairs" or cost the infrastructure is there already.
>>522572595>...was forced into an abruption U-turnwhat the fuck kind of grammar is that???>Arshi Qureshi import 3rd world become 3rd world
>>522577012Small? SMALL?In logistics?Small?Are you serious or just braindead?How is small company meant to get parcel from one side of the country to another within a reasonable time frame?
>>522572595>ww can't have your bills showing up 1 day lateThese people are fucking pathetic retards. China, fucking end this please.
>>522573739>The value of sending snail mail is zeroYou never send cards or gifts via the mail system? Operating and protecting the mail system is actually a historical core government mission.
>>522574441ANON!... Stop responding to the Fl4M3-B0tIt's either a script, or an actual moron/low iQ shitskin.Either way, you won't get anywhere.This isn't 2008 4Chins anymore, the collective IQ here isn't more than 89.
>>522577097Yes small. UPS would literally do the same thing it does now with packages only with snail mail you retard.
>>522577138you're right
>>522576792>don't worry about where your taxes are going or who actually rules your country goy, just consume and get excited for new product to consumeOk, rabbi.
>>522577012What about the places that UPS, DHL and other companies don't bother serving due to the lack of profit incentive?
>>522576817Given how reliant on mail our body of laws is; being required as a form of providing notice in everything from theft to court to taxes; it may as well be. If USPS were shuttered and private companies then stopped taking letters, the government would immediately be unable to follow thousands of its own laws; not to mention all the businesses who are required by regulation to send mail who would suddenly have no way to comply with the law.The USPS should just be nationalized. Then it can quit carrying junk mail and just perform its legally mandated functions, functions we all de facto recognize as non-negotiable.
>>522577138True.Either way my message to America is learn from the mistakes Britain madeDon't privatise the USPS. Privatising Royal Mail has been a total disaster and one with a body count funnily enough because the new management don't pay for the maintenance of the many asbestos riddled buildings the company hasOh also we just got bought by a shady Czech oligarch with links to the Russian state
>>522577369like where in the US?
>>522576610Yeah, that should be apparent to any half-wit.I didn't say that it was, so what's your POINT Clive?The solution is KICK OUT THE TURD WORLDERS or pack it up.That's it.
>>522577383We are not your country. The issues you have are deeper rooted than the mail system. Just because you failed doesn't mean we would retard
>>522577000I shouldn't be surprised that even your guys government ran mail delivery service is just as dumb as ours. But it is government ran, so to be expected.
>>522577138>>522577220i went through the whole thread and neither of you contributed to the conversation in any way
>>522576876I'm saying it wouldn't, because the government doesn't fix problems, it creates entirely new problems. You THINK it would fix problems because that's what it's supposed to do, but the reality is exactly the opposite. I 100% guarantee you that the government would find a way to bloat a "reform of the USPS" into some absolutely ridiculous waste of time and money. Not a single doubt in my mind.Stop licking the government's teat, it's fucking embarassing. You aren't going to meaningfully reform shit, no matter how well-intentioned you are. There are billions of dollars involved, at levels of power far beyond a simple governmental department. It's coopted and controlled. It. Isn't. Fixable.
>>522577406Rural areas, like in Iowahttps://rleonard.substack.com/p/ups-service-centers-close-in-rural
>>522577602it must be painful to be retarded
>>522577443That retards brit's entire argument is this is bad because UPS would abuse their market dominance not realizing that UPS already has market dominance and we are right now in 2025 over reliant for them for everything and they don't enact this doomsday garbage and price hikes he's proposing
>>522577097He's both: serious AND braindead. He'd have to be braindead to be serious. I'd just stop bothering replying to him: he's an absolute Grade-A retard that has no fucking idea what he's talking about.
>>522577680see>>522576455I already addressed this
>>522572595>refuse to pay wages as this would mean less rent paid out to the holy shareholders, Alpha and Omega, Gods of the mutts>either hire illegals or no one at all because your "wages" won't even pay for a one room rental in the Gehtto>migamutts propose to just gift it to a tax billionaire as solutionOr you know, the USPS pays real wages, packages become more expensive so you fattened up goys drive the five minutes to collect your shit yourselves. Delivery faggotry has gotten completely out of hand since covid. Having shit delivered to your door costs money, deal with it.
>>522577375>the USPS should just be nationalizedDo you know what "nationalizing" means? It means the government taking control of a private company and making it public.The USPS is a public institution. You can't "nationalize" it because it already IS nationalized, retard.
>>522577683it is not high IQ to support government monopolies and no, you dont automatically support amazon by pointing this out you say you are doing satire and sarcasm but those are elements of humor and no one is laughing at your posts?
>>522577220I HATE that I am.>>522577383Yeah, as per my other post, I wasn't shocked, per se, with the amount of Royal mail fuckery, I just didn't know that it was absolutely on par with " 'Murrica's">>522577602I just fucking got here you HR mimicking FAGGOTare you (HLn8b2et)? NO? Then go eat a fucking bag of DICKS ya fuckwit.
>>522577757How many companies have sprung up in the past year to serve these rural areas in the tine since UPS pretty much abandoned them?
>>522572595I used to work for the USPS twice actually. I was a CCA and then a PTF City Carrier. I've never seen more fuck ups in a company than with the USPS. All the supervisors are niggers or mutts. Shut it the fuck down.
>>522577606Your entire argument is government bad government ruins everything as you defend the government running the USPS. It 100% objectively would be cheaper for many reasons if we switched to email be snail mail. You accuse me of licking the government's teat but you want no reform at all here. Also of course you are so angry you are making cheer leading posts like this lmao >>522577715Calm down you loser
>>522572595amazon hires illegals fag it the same thing they hire anyone to deliver packages faggot.
>>522577852>it is not high IQ to support government monopoliesbut it is high IQ to support actual monopolies like amazon lmao> you dont automatically support amazon by pointing this outwho would pick up the tab if we got rid of USPS you fucking retard?>durrr it could be UPS or Fedexoh that's much different
>>522577888checkedno i am not that idthe other id HKMVGI8, is clearly some low IQ shill
>>522577894Google "one mile companies" if you want a listing of that. More would pop up is the USPS disabanded
>>522577914>shut it the fuck downCan't. Requires a constitutional amendment to shut it down.What you COULD do is fire all the niggers and mutts. If you managed to bulldoze the extremely powerful union. And have a plan to deal with the now-unemployed and feral niggers. Like most government departments, they are functionally little more than welfare-work programs for the unemployed and unemployable. If you're too retarded for a private company to hire you - that's why government jobs exist.
>>522573322The post office absolutely should run a profit. You’re a literal retard
>>522573518It is a business though. The USPS is a government-owned corporation.
>>522577958because of government monopoly, they are letting foreigners with invalid drivers licenses transport our mailthis is why it is low IQ to support government monopolies, and no you do not automatically become a supporter of amazon for pointing this out
>>522578071If you're an intelligent white man, you go work for UPS and make a hell of a lot more than some nigger at the Postal Service. Also, MUH STRONG UNION lmao bullshit. The NALC ain't shit.
>>522577894None, because delivering at actually competitive prices would be more expansive than customers are willing to pay.Amazon eats the loss because it feeds into their actual business of selling shit online, and the USPS is legally obligated to do it.Other than that, the only way to make a profit that way is by using legal loopholes to undercut the minimum wage. But that also means you can only have employees who are willing to work nearly for free, and that is illegals.It is simply not possible to operate profitably at current market rates for deliveries without engaging in fucky stuff. B2B truckign companies are already riding on razor thin margins in a fiercely competitive market, once we get into last mile end consumer delivery it all falls apart.t. logistics consultant
>>522578141Why? A profit for who, nigger? Rich jews? You're fucking ziocucked>>522578146>gubmint and foreigners bad so bezos should own everythingdo you not see the obvious conclusions of your arguments or are you just desperately trying to avoid them?
>>522578200>another retard who never heard of 1 mile companies before
>>522577920>you want no reform at all hereAgain, a strawman. I am merely pointing out that your proposals for reform are infeasible, impossible even.I do want reform. That reform would require an entire restructuring of our government. It would require the Constitution to be temporarily suspended and national martial law to be declared, as it would inevitably provoke open rebellion across huge sectors of the country.But we aren't talking about MY ideas for reform. We're talking about yours. And yours are, objectively, retarded. Because they're impossible.
>>522577767>shareholdersWhat's a share of USPS going for these days? Did they pay a dividend last quarter?
>>522578200Most of Amazon's logistics just pawns their shit off to Flex Drivers who are notoriously illegal immigrant retards. The DSPs hire a bunch of niggers too. I worked for Amazon FC, Amazon DSP, and Flex.
>>522578169The Postmaster General has authority over every single piece of mail sent in the entire country. He's damn near the head of a fourth branch of government. So, yes, the USPS union is EXTREMELY influential. Anyone who thinks they aren't has no fucking idea what they're talking about.
>>522578258>Again, a strawman. I am merely pointing out that your proposals for reform are infeasible, impossible even.No actually at first you were trying to say why I was wrong, fucked that up and moved the goal posts to "whatever we can't do this anyway because of the constitution" which I never said otherwise. I was clearly arguing a hypothetical.>your goals are retarded because they don't remove constitutional rights like I proposekek you are a bigger retard than that brit
>>522578217the rich jews in the gubmint add up to more power and wealth than bezos, and you dont automatically become a bezos supporter for pointing this out
>>522578217A profit for the treasury. You’re a literal retard
>>522578372You've never worked for USPS so you don't know jack about shit. Majority of postmasters that work for the USPS are niggers.
>>522578243Doesn't change the fundamental problem, bud. Someone has to drive. That someone has to be paid. End of story.>>522578293Is the USPS obligated to operate with a profit, or entirely tax funded?
>>522578430I haven’t seen a white male post office employee in at least five years
>>522577709Well, the whole things a fucking mess.We CAN'T untangle the Apfirmative or DEI Cancer at this point, and the USPS has ALREADY become a weird corporate/federal chimera.What good is a self-supported public service if it still can just make corporate mergers that ensure that priority is given to the highest bidder anyway?That's how it works...From their OWN site:>The Postal Service generally does not receive tax dollars to support its normal operations. The Postal Service, instead, relies on the revenue it generates from the sale of stamps, products, and services to fund its operations.There you have it. The whole thread is MOOT.It ALREADY IS Corpo subsidized, and the only difference between IT and Fed Ex or UPS is they are MORE required to hire incompetents, and LESS liable for mistakes or Malice just due to the massive bureaucracy and Nigger gatekeeping.You don't like it, DON'T FUCKING use it, and make sure to make bullshit like :"provide 2 pieces of mail for proof of residence" ILLEGAL for companies and banks to demand.
>>522578418So you're saying the government doesn't get enough already from our taxes, they now need to partner with corporations to scrape even more dollars from the average person? So based>>522578393>the rich jews in the gubmint add up to more power and wealth than bezosoh good, lets make him richer and give him more power. that makes total sense
>>522578489Well, I was one.
>>522578450The fact that those companies even exist shows the market for them exists retard and the only reason they aren't in more rural areas is because of the USPS
>>522578430I've worked in logistics for a long time, and I have several friends and colleagues in the USPS. I am familiar with most of what goes on. You're right that most postmasters are niggers - this is totally unsurprising, because the government mostly exists to keep niggers employed instead of doing drugs and stabbing random White people. This doesn't mean that the USPS has a logistics problem; it has a nigger problem, as does the entire country. But you aren't going to fix the nigger problem with the USPS without fixing the nigger problem entirely across the entire country.
>>522578418Too bad the treasury doesn't exist and the money is fake. It just wouldn't cost the taxpayer anymore.
>>522578489one time we got sent a jar of CBD gummies as some sort of promotional spam and i look on my camera and see a nigger postal worker staring at the jar, looking around, and then put it in his pocket lolhe came back an hour later after we called USPS and pretended like it fell on the floor of his truck and just forgot to deliver it>dude i have a camera
>>522578585You’re a literal retard.
>>522578450>Is the USPS obligated to operate with a profit, or entirely tax funded?I asked you how much a share is trading for and if they're paying dividends. How can I become a shareholder in the post office?
>>522578585>oh good, lets make him richer and give him more power. that makes total sensei knew you were a shill for jewish power but wow
>>522578642You also can't really live off of what they pay at the Postal Service unless you work every hour of every fucking day.
>>522578654You’re a literal retard
>>522578550>we are independent>ignore that the US government gave us 10 billion during COVID and will gift us that again the moment we bitch againThey are so dishonest
>>522574560Why don't you just focus on packages and let letters, cards, and money orders transfer electronically?> but muh heckin no internet or email address poor peoplerinos!!!That's too badd for them.
>>522578745>he says while literally shilling for total globalist corporate takeover>>522578712bot ran outta arguments
>>522572648>functioningLiteral nigger babysitting$10 billion annual losses
>>522578677For the past 5 years every week without a doubt I have gotten my neighbors mail at least once a week. I live in an apartment the niggers literally can't match apartment numbers like "4R" to the correct mailbox. Also 3 times this year they just left all the mailboxes open. Also I live close to train tracks and one time I noticed 3 discarded mail bags thrown near the tracks filled with mail
>>522578942great lets give it to AMAZON and make everything WORSE, that makes TOTAL SENSE, thank you migger
>>522578775I think you're meant to stick around more than a couple months so that you get raises then a pension when you're in your 50s.
>>522573247We should sell the roads to mcdonalds so that each mctoll fry purchase can go towards fixing the potholes.
>>522577972That's not my concern.Maybe..Because of the incessant use of "Miggers"But I only engaged that anon because he was flailing with an OBVIOUS script b0t meant to drive the post count pointlessly ever towards bump limit.Not that it really matters ITT.It all simply boils down to one thing for me:take any formerly functioning institution or program intended to benefit High trust White nations, then dump in a bunch of Niggers and incompetents, and Voila! Instant sinkhole of money and resources which offers nothing but the barest minimum of it's original intent AT BEST, and at worst acts as flow-fucking shambling mound which only further enriches the most corrupt and lazy goldbrickers in society.
>>522578977My best friends dad used to run a post office. He said the issue is a zip code would have like 20 nigger mail delivery guys attached to it and 90% would call out sick every day forcing people who normally don't deliver to deliver mail. He said he would come home every day at like midnight because of this and they are all union protected
>that retard is still mad at me and still whining about me to other anonskek
>>522578977You have a very long probationary period. About three months give or take.
>>522578599>they aren't in more rural areas is because of the USPSBut those companies still exist in more populated areas alongside the USPS, right? Why is it only in rural areas that they don't coexist?
>>522578919>bot ran outta argumentsLooks that way.Not all bots are silicon based thougheverbeital, there are quite a few carbon ones these days,(Same as it ever was)>>522578794Well, most everyone got SOME bailout$Hell, I even got a check for $750But yeah, still a couched lie.
>>522579434>rightNo because the USPS exists. If it didn't they would.
>>522575262Into the mentally ill cluster b histrionic trash it goesYou will never be a man
>>522579605>bring up corporations and corporate overreach>miggers avoid the topic entirelyinteresting
>>522576554Cause and effect you stupid communist fuckYou aren't going to be s commisar you mutant
>>522578942USPS is a service, not a company. Its not supposed to make a profit its supposed to serve the US people rather than make some kike CEO rich.
>>522578971Listen man, there aren't many here who actually BELIEVE that REDTEAM/BLUETEAM is actually anything but the Uniparty.It's ALL corrupt, and it's all steered by KIKE Policies.BOTH SIDESSerious question...ARE YOU ACTUALLY PARTSAN?
>>522579659>Little faggot brought his debate notesMe and my friends used to throw you little dweebs in the trashcan at schoolTell me who you are if you're feeling nostalgic about being thrown into trash faggot
>>522576641Overhauling the postal office would require funding it, privatizing the postal office just means whatever Jews bought it pocket even more for themselves while making the service as shit as possible to save money and fuck over goyim.
>>522579751>allowing billionaires to own everything is just muh cause and effectany other retarded phrases you'd like to throw out incorrectly in order to defend globalist corporate control, shill?>>522579826What's your opinion on zionism?
>>522579536So they don't exist in rural areas because of the USPS, and they don't exist in more populated areas because if the USPS. But you said here >>522578599 that they exist. So, where do they exist? Did I read something incorrectly?
>>522579826lmao You don't have an argument so you chimped out instead
>>522579899Waiting with bated breath to see if my chastisement on overuse of the term "MIGGERS" was unfounded...
>>522579903>and they don't exist in more populated areasNo they exist in more populated areas because mail volume is higher to compensate for the competition. Your attempts at gotchas are terrible FYI every reply you make you try to do one and fail lol
>>522579826You're a nigger.
>>522575941If you didn't notice, Trump and those that worship him don't care about the Constitution.
>>522580059Of course I agree that both sides are kiked, miggers in particular disgust me because the pretend their side is super based secret nazis that are going to save America, when they're arguably more kiked than the democrats right now. Trump is just Bibi's dog.
>>522580069I asked you straight-up if they existed in more populated areas, then you said "No" at first. Maybe you read aomething wrong at some point? I know we're just squabbling over bullshit little details, but the least you can do is keep your goddamn story straight if you're going to act all high and mighty with me.I'm done with you.
>>522579305>About three monthsWow, that is a "very" long time to hold the same job!Unbelievable that you couldn't afford to buy a nice home month 3 of your career. I bet you didn't even get vested in a pension either?
>>522572595>sell it to AmazonLmao ok you stupid nigger
>>522580380There is no contradiction. I literally quoted the part I was arguing. Try arguing something of substance instead of gotcha attempts.
>>522578599Yeah, there also a market for free blowjobs on every street corner.Ist nice that you think the market is there, however serving that market while also paying market rates for delivery drivers is not possible. Simple reason is that the whole business of having everything delievred to your doorstep rests entirely on the service being almost free for end consumers.So in fact, you do not have a market, because people can't or won't pay what they would need to pay for companies to turn a profit without undercutting the labour market by usin basically indentured slaves. Which illegals who have to pay their Coyote debts essentially are.Also, like all humans these illegals will perform in accordance with their wages, which means like complete dogshit.
>>522580745>market rates for delivery driversIn rural areas which is what we are talking about "market rates" are irrelevant since everyone gets paid less regardless. You have no idea how this country is like. People in rural areas would jump to make minimum wage delivering packages. It's not a glamorous career but NO ONE has a glamours career in these places
>>522580389You ever been a mail carrier before, faggot? You really don't get the conversation. Go take your fucking atorvastatin and overdose and die, you old boomer faggot.
>>522580332FAIR.I rail on ChINOS all the time.ZioCucks of ANY stripe are lickspittle fools.>when they're arguably more kiked than the democrats right nowYeah...see, That's my sticking point.The "SUPPORT Palestine" thing is a strange phenomenon. Prior to that, just 3 years ago, they were running along just fine carrying the KIKEL Agenda for Western destruction.Seems astroturfed as hell, but with the exception of Possible (((Masonic goals))) (!?)I have a hard time seeing how this benefits anything but a top level power struggle.That and the whole Evangelical "RAPTURE Fetish"ANyway.USPS is busted, there are other ways that are better to send massages, essentially for free, Why not just let it DIE since it's unfixable.
>>522579811Under this logic why not just have the government provide all goods and services and not worry about profit and loss?
>>522580872Buddy, minimum wage is a distant dream to theose companies.Thats my whole point. They cannot even pay the minimum, hence illegals.>since everyone gets paid less regardlessYeah thats not how businesses work. And since your USPS is ran like a business and under pressure to show profits, the same applies to them.
>>522581045Because these things are not black and white.Some things like public infrastructure are impossible to operate profitably by nature and are far more efficient when centrally controlled. Whereas other things like for example the production of goods is more efficient when ran by competing private companies. Its not an either/or equation, its a question of when to use the hammer and when to sue the screwdriver.
>>522580745These free blowjobs you speak of...Uh, where can one... Asking for a friend you see... Uhh, WHERE exactly would a guy... uh...
>>522581118I am talking about 3rd party 1 mile like companies that exist already and profit but a mega corp like UPS could just get subsidized by the US government as a replacement to the postal system.
>>522581219>when to sue the screwdriver.INTERDASTINg Freudian Slit, err, Slut, um... SLIP!Slip, i meant.. Shit...Fuck.
>>522572595The officials who gave this order must hang publicly and immediately.
>>522581393plot twist it was probably the union that did it
>>522573322You're like a woman. Zero logic. All fee fees. kek
>>522582069it's much more masculine to suck the cock of corporations, true
>>522575941Lmao he thinks the piece of paper is real. Incredible!
>>522581219But this is a normal good/service that the government just happens to provide. It’s not the military or state department. We have enough evidence and experience that the private sector is better than the government for providing national scale logistics delivery services. If you’re worried about rural delivery you can regulate it so that licensed mail carriers have to provide for them at some kind of cost plus rate in order to deliver mail anywhere. We already have this concept in freight rail with customers that only have one freight rail company that serves them
>>522580938>You ever been a mail carrier before, faggot?Yes was a rural carrier for a little bit. Also tried clerk. Seemed like not a bad path to a decent salary and early pension for someone who had no qualifications besides basic literacy and no criminal record. A bit more work than I needed at my stage in life though.>>522581219>Some things like public infrastructure are impossible to operate profitably by nature True>and are far more efficient when centrally controlled.Virtually never true. Have you ever worked for a government?
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>>522585904Why did you even quit being a city carrier? They're about the only ones getting paid fair right now.
>>522572648>>522573753Postal services across the world are boomer jobs programs for retards. Parasite leeches who refuse to do even the minimum. They're being shitters because we can no longer afford to pay boomers and niggers middle class income to pretend to work.Amazon and pajeet courier services showed everyone it is possible to deliver parcels. To ring a buzzer, to page a phone. To get the parcel in the hands of the recipient instead of barely pretending to try.
>>522586012Did you drive your own vehicle as a rural? I failed my right hand driving course so I left the Postal Service a few months back. If I were to ever go back, it would have to be as a clerk. Also, I was in an accident recently. Have a lawyer handling it, so I can't get into specifics, but I'm doing what I need to do.
>>522573030Corporations have a monetary incentive to do a good job. Governments do not.
>>522586647>Corporations have a monetary incentive to do a good jobnot when they own entire chunks of the market.
>>522587121Why doesn't someone just set up a competing company?
>>522586463>Did you drive your own vehicle as a rural?No. Our local office has Metras and I did an LLV when I did Sunday Amazon for a nearby city. >I failed my right hand driving courseGrim. >If I were to ever go back, it would have to be as a clerk.Hope you love overtime. Best job I saw was the janitor, who unlike 4chan jannies does NOT do it for free and comes in at 8, fucks off at 4:30, no weekends, no holidays, no "we need to stay until ______ gets done", just 4:30 on Friday and "See you all Monday." Push around a broom, empty trash, clean some toilets, and mail a paper to regional if something breaks.
>>522572987>WHY DON'T YOU LOVE INFINITY BUREAUCRATS SAAARGovernment jobs are just daycare for idiot urban demographics we won't let starve to death
>>522572648ThisACCELERATE I want our fall to be quick enough the fuck the ones who sold out our future
>>522572595Reminder that the current postmaster general is a FedEx board member Rightoids want to destroy government services that work well so that you have to pay more and contribute to shareholder value
>>522572595You lost.Again.lmao
>>522587432You really didn't read the entire post. Fucking illiterate moron. >Also, I was in an accident recently. Have a lawyer handling it, so I can't get into specifics, but I'm doing what I need to do.Accident was with my personal vehicle. I have a lawsuit. Can't talk about it. Not related to USPS at all.
>>522572595is this why they didnt take the mail?
>>522572595SAAR DO NOT REDEEM THE USPS
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>>522575685You have a point, the USPS shouldn't be specifically targetted when EVERYONE is using illegal jeet truckers.USPS should not be forced to a disadvantage relative to private companies hiring illegals.Fucking send ICE after themall. Revoke California's ability to issue CDLs.
>>522572595fuck you for trying to fuck the post office
>>522572595but amazon exclusively employs illegals?????????????????????????????literally every single amazon driver i see is a somalian or some shit.
The CIA and FBI made ups fail so that I wouldn't get my package. Sorry everyone.
>>522572860Learn your history. USPS used to outperform other carriers at a lower price and still managed to turn a profit, but companies lobbied Republicans to pass laws that intentionally crippled the USPS and forced it to lose money. Everyone has forgotten already, but Trumps first actions both terms in office were to put people in place that intentionally fucked up ongoing post office modernization efforts.Its pretty pathetic when you fuck everything up on purpose just so you can make your bullshit rhetoric true.
>>522572595If illegals do all these jobs that the country wont work without anymore, just imagine how many of them also get to vote
>>522572648>USPS >functionalLol
