Idiots here will still deny that RAM companies have formed a cartel
>>522573018How many time are you going to make that stupid thread you fucking subhuman?
>>522573018Who actually plays games in 2025 the year of our Lord Emmanuel the true christ who will rise up and kill every faggot loser.
>>522573018>timmy is mad his new gaming pc costs more than it "should"
its called progress now use the ai slop bot instead you fucking troglodyte
>muh cartels
>>522573077>You only need ram for games
The prices will come down won't they bros?
Ai companies boosted the price insanely so that AI servers can run properly, I don't expect the prices to go down unless the bubble pops or unless quantum computing becomes commercially available the way regular computing was by 1970.
>>522573223maybe when the AI bubble pops
>>522573223Yeah but probably not for a year or two.
they've literally done this repeatedlywhy America is reliant on letting a bunch of greedy gook jews on a chinese island have a stranglehold over such an important industry is of course free market, it's gotta be it's free market you don't hate free market do ya
>>522573164Only new ram, nigger I got plenty of ram and it still works fine, what are you doing making AI porn?
>>522573077me and my kid play some ra2
>>522573018still.the cheapest cartel of them all
>>522573113I built a new one last year, I’m good for a long time
>>522573279Because no one else can compete. Look at Intel they've been stuck with the same technology for more than 10 years. 14nm++++++++++++++
>>522573325Nice 10/22
Just upgrade your pc goyIf you don’t the prices might get a little… hurt
>>522573077Google Chrome takes 6 gb of ram for one window with a single idle YouTube tab
>>522573018amerigolems are buying up all hardware with taxcuck/boomer investorbux and will then sell compute back to you via streamingYOU VILL OWN NOZING AND YOU VILL BE HAPPY
>>522573018>AI causes ram prices to soar because the manufacturers were not ready for the demand>meanwhile AI data centers are built and ready to go but can't be used because of lack of electricity capacityNot a bubble btw, trust the plan and invest in AI companies
>>522573018That doesn't make any sense, for years they've had runaway cost LOWERING because of competition.This is Trump's tariffs and the AI bubble, they're selling high because their costs went up and they always highball since people forgive one big price jump more than continual price increases. It's really basic economic theory honestly>>522573113All memory in all systems is going up, and sorry to tell ya boomer, computers are important for everyone to have in the modern day. I'm sorry you're bitter someone likes to have fun as well.
>>522573164>you need more than 16 gigs
>>522573077this>>5225731644chan is full of neet losers stop larping retard
>Tfw upgraded just in time
>>522573018Who fucking cares, what the fuck are you going to play, the latest transcore slopfest? I just chill in bed and play 20 year old games on my deck, you literally don't need more. Haven't sat on my Desktop in months. Also playing games is literally a waste of time, there's like 20 good games ever made and none go them are made this decade. If you're gonna neet (as you should) atleast watch anime or something.
>>522573462turn off hardware acceleration.god damn zoomers.
>>522573018San Altman bought all the supply.Usually when people say "all", it's an exaggeration.RAM kit OEMs have been buying their products back from system integrators so they have stock to sell to enthusiasts. For once, "all" truly does mean all.And apparently, Altman didn't just buy finished product. He commandeered a few wafers as well, meaning RAM chips that haven't finished production yet.According to people in the industry who've talked about this, there seems to be no reason for doing this other than killing competition. It's considered an aggressive acquisition on the level of "fuck you we won't do business with you anymore".OpenAI overreached.
If the orange stable genius removed tariffs and trade barriers on China DDR5 64GB stick would cost $20. $10 during holiday sales. But people are retarded so it is what it is. Enjoy living it I guess?
>>522573164I swear to god if you sit here and tell me you 3d render shit or use Ai. Im gonna call you a shitskin, because no you dont 3d render, and if you're using AI your a street shitting scammer
>>522573018Good guy Black Forest Labs, making free open source models for us, that require you to double your hardware consumption for no fucking reason.Like I'm low key convinced Midjourney is still on SD1.5.
>>522573018We got by fine for thousands of years without all this crap. You know in your heart it's meaningless. Why not just let it go?
>>522573018i bought my gpu for like $300 new and it even came with starfield that i installed and uninstalled in the same day, anyway this card is now $1000
>>522574626>Enjoy it I guess?fixed
>>522573018New idea for niggers>Break into a data center that only uses robots and steal RAM. >Sell the RAM on black market
>>522573018I mean they did. They overproduced like hell in 2022 and 2023 which set the price of ram and ssd's at rock bottom which caused a big hit on their profits. All the big 3 memory companies (Micron, SK Hynix and Samsung who make 95% of all memory) agreed to lower production to raise prices. So for the past 2 years they have produced about half their capacity to increase prices and then OpenAI placed a massive order and thanks to their reduced production the prices of ram has skyrocketed.The only silver lining is that memory companies are increasing production. And once they have completed OpenAI's orders they are actually overproducing memory again. So ram prices will be once again at rock bottom prices in about 3-4 years.
>>522573655and what do you do with your time, you fucking fat, cocksucking, migger retard? You pump gas at 7/11?
>>522573018How much is my old RAM worth?
>>522573077People who don't worship Israel. Don't you got a war to go die in, Christcuck?
>>522573223Go down? Yes. Go back to previous prices? Most likely no.
also, fuck gigabyte and fuck logitech. both companies need to cease to exist.
>>522573018I have 32gb for my main pc, 24 for my server, bought some chinkshit ram for my laptop before the price spike. I am comfy.
>>522573223For next 2 years or so? Nope. It will be these prices or even higher. However in 3-4 years prices will probably collapse. The memory makers are increasing production once again but we will not see the result of that until 4 years. By that point OpenAI's demand will not be as high and the memory makers will be overproducing memory. So we will have even cheaper prices than we had this year. But it will be hell for the next 2 years.
>>522574492Probably has to do with the circular loop they have going with nvidia and oracle. Things started to slow down, so they had to over-buy hardware to keep the circle from losing momentum and their stock crashing. They have to know that at some point this all comes crashing down and a lot of people are going to lose everything, but until then the longer they keep this going they richer they get.
>>522573018it's all the AI data centers maxing out the production capacities
ah yes I can't wait to play the NEW, GREAT games such as...
>>522573018Just make your own ram. Build a factory and built it yourself. If you don't have the money, get it from your parents. Don't take no for an answer. When you build the factory, get people to help you. If your friends won't help, get your butler or your chauffer to come and help. It's easy.
>>522573223Never as low as they were. That's how these thing go. Prices are jacked up 400-1000% and then they come down to "only" 200% compared to baseline. The cattle then thinks the prices are cheap again. This scheme applies to pretty much everything consumers buy. Companies just need a plausible reason to start jacking up the prices.
>>522573223no. they're not even making ddr4 anymore which were used in new builds as recently as 2023
A white dildo
>>522573223Vile anti semit !!!!
>>522573653you do on windows. just using a browser with 1 tab is like 30% usage. jews, pajeets and niggers ruin everything
>>522573266If the AI bubble pops the US is doomed.Which basket of you think all your eggs are in?
>>522573018Spec maxxing is for autistic retards anyways. Everybody who buys these expensive GPUs and computer components and a socially recluse aspie tard who then proceeds to mostly play old video games. I’m glad they’re pricing you out. You need a new hobby. Video games have ruined generations of men and using an expensive computer for playing games was always a dumb idea. If anything below 4k and 144hz is unplayable to you, you need to be dismembered while still alive. Most of the time you fags just sit at a fucking desk and play these silly games on a tiny little IPS monitor anyways.
>>522573018>RAM companies have formed a cartelYeah no shit, this has been known for over two decades already.I for one can't wait for the chinks to actually enter the chip market, for real this time.
>>522573062I mean he is spamming But it's getting worse daily>>522573113Glad I got an extra set for my video editing rig last year. Just replaced the audio one a few months ago. I guess all u ever do is game on ur PC.
Everybody who even cares about this shit has autism spectrum disorder and needs to be rounded up
>>522573018Global hottening caused a drought which impacted the ram harvest
>>522576030My high spec computer from 10 years ago can barely run webbrowser.
>>522573018>Not realizing that AI companies have been hoovering up the RAM market like crack addictsRAM prices are fucked for the next year or two.
>>522574737Video editing and composites eat ram like crazy. U ever used after effects my God it will just crash static tabs in FirefoxAnd ableton will use as much ram as it can too.Sorry you only thought of faggot shit like ai
>>522573018>RAM>cartelIt's ewes all the way down.
>>522576251That’s because web technology keeps evolving to utilize new tech built into modern chips and old PCs have to do emulate those hardware functions in software which is exponentially slower. That’s why a phone, which is probably inferior to your decade old high spec PC, can browse the modern web faster. But I’m not referring to this at all I’m referring to the aspies and neurodivergent retards who are into this hobby and constantly spec maxxing while complaining about the cost of RAM and GPUs.. all so they can play CS2 on a 24” curved IPs monitor while they sit at a a desk using a mouse and and keyboard. They need to be rounded up and thrown into camps
>>522576194very true. the Ram Trees need reliable conditions to fully ripen the Ram Nuts
>>522573018cool it with the antisemitism
I'm on a 6700k/16GB/1060 6GB. Half of my shit is out of support. I had a 9800X3D/96GB ram/5070 TI in my cart a few months ago but decided to wait for supers. Now I can't afford it and will have to install troonix like a thirdworlder for the next few years, hopefully nothing blows up. No one protested over food, niggmigrants, housing, or hook noses so we're just going to take it probably.
>>522573018they all get their chips sourced from the same handful of fabrication companies in taiwan
>>522573018Blackrock owns all these companies retard. The largest shareholder has the most say.
>>522573018Make your own RAM company and undersell them.
>>522573077you cut my dick off at birth so I'm gonna vidya to death suck my fat cock you couldn't finish the job
>>522573018Sam Altman was promised the global RAM supply 3000 years ago.
>>522573018We are in the middle of a circular financing bubble by Nvidia. >>522573113Maybe you should move back to India.
>>522573018>The shit I bought 10 years ago has doubled in value instead of decreasing like every other commodity.
>>522573077>kill every faggot loser.If you read your Bible, you would know that our Lord is the God of losers. He will kill 7 feet tall Chads, He will kill the rich and powerful, He will kill evil females, He will save the loser incels (us). Amen!
Looks I will be riding my 5600x and 7900xt until AM6, which realistically is fine. The only thing I do is play games and use Xactimate, and you couldn't get Xactimate to run well on a goddamn supercomputer.
>>522573018gaming doesn't need 64GB of ram though, you only need that much if you are going to generate ai child porn
i'm scraping by just fine on 32gb and but hate myself for not getting 32 more back when they were cheap. price is exploding and is going to reach amerimutt levels. thanks drumf
>>522578357Many games+system are using over 20GB now, and with heavy modding you get past 32GB.It's not a common scenario, but in a few years 32GB will not be enough anymore if we are to consider the evolution so far.
>>522573018I got a deal on a pre-built. I'm done buying anything gaming.
>>52257835764 is so you can run a giant big ass game that takes ages to load in. and when you get a little bored you can alt-tab and run another giant big ass game that takes forever to load and keep several of them running at once..along with the usual browser tabs and misc tools. there's your 64 ate up. you need 96 or 128 now but it's too expensive.
>>522573223DD4 is no longer being produced by the big guys. It will probably only be made by third party chinese from here on out. If you want DD4, buy it now, it's only going to get worse. Probably RAM will be very very expensive for the next three years. This will have a knock on effect for SSDs as well.
>>522578720I'm expecting that the GabeCube will be a good deal, especially if they can hit a 500 dollar/euro price point. There are already comparable laptops on sale for under 600, and obviously the laptop includes a screen, battery, peripherials etc. so despite what that Linus shill is saying I think the base model will be 550-600 at most.
>>522573018What's so special about super RAM and why can't I play my friendslop without it? I've never spent more than $50 on 64GB of RAM.
>>522579010i bet it's gonna be closer to 800he don't sell at loss
>>522573018God damn. I got that same Corsair Vengence DDR4 ram for free last fall when buying an AMD GPU that was also on sale for like 25% off on Newegg. As well as two free games. Space Marines II and some other shit game. Crazy times.
>>522573077But how are you going to create AI porn for gooning without a healthy amount of quality RAM?
>>522579348No way, look at this, a whole ass laptop for 600$.
>>522573077>only 64gb is listedyou dont need more than 16gb of ram for gaming at all, if your getting more id imagine your actually doing productive shit
>>522578999I had a feeling this shit was coming and upgraded everything before Trump got in. I have a maxed last gen system now. Time to dig out the old ssds and ram and list them on ebay.
>>522579531Tarkov enters the chat
>>522573018The supply is low because the companies are making ram for A.I's data centers. If you can prove that they are purposefully reducing their capacity then you have a point, but, you are a redundant Greek.
>>522579530thats from hp. who does sell at loss. collects money to cram in bundled shit. signs u up for 47 things, sells your data and rapes you so hard on service and parts. comes out way ahead despite loss on hardware.
>>522573018It's not a cartel its because AI companies are buying all the memorySame thing that happened with GPUs
>>522579737i wondered why thier laptops were si cheap on black friday.
>>522573018forced meme
>>522579802yup. it's a racket. but you can get around it, buy, find drivers, format, install clean os. but forget about service ever really.normal people don't do that. don't wanna, don't know how.
>>522579737It's not just this HP laptop, Acer and Lenovo are only 30-50 dollars more and come with an RTX 5050.Sure they get some money from the pre-installed bloatware, but the Windows license actually costs money too.
>>522574945Why Americans doesn't sue them?
>>522579531>gamingYou have to be 18 yo to post here.
>>522580313take that stick out of your ass kraut. i'm older than you. and my grandfather and greatgrandfather bombed the shit out of your country. i suspect my grandchildren will do so as well.
>>522579541I got lazy after maxing out my DDR4 system to 128 GB and didn't sell my 4x16 GB sticks. Now they quadrupled in value and sell for what I paid back in 2021. I'm holding on to them so I can jew some goy good on ebay when the price peaks. That's the spirit of Trump's second term.
>>522580576I just need 2x8GB DDR4 (and already have 2x8GB) then I'm out of this game.
>>522573018I upgraded to 128GB RAM this past spring. I didn’t even need it I just felt like I should get it. Think I paid $120 or something like this. How much could I sell the sticks for now?
>>522580313I didnt say I gamed you retarded phone posterits general knowledge if use a computer
>>522573018I bought 16gb for my sons build yesterday for 129$. The guy at micro center was impressed with my deal i found
>>522575598Skill issue.I have a Linux laptop with 4GB of ram, runs everything i need it to run without any problem.
>>522581339i too am impressed with your deal you found
>>522573018You are a poor Greek person. Enjoy the sea breeze at least. Things are for people with the money to buy them. Welfare faggot.
>>522581643>Linux laptop with 4GB of ram,same here. its 12 years old. doesn't play x265 video without freezing and blocking but everything else is ok.
>>522574135Tarkov
>>522580935double easily
>>522573164There’s always one of you in these threads. Please share the very important things you’re doing with your personal computer on your own dime. I’ll wait…
>>522574931>>Break into a data center that only uses robots and steal RAM. >>Sell the RAM on black marketThe ram is soldered to the board or even mounted on the AI chip. Its not mounted on dimms. And the only dimms you can find in a data center are registered dimms with ECC which are used in servers.
>>522573018I paid €235 for picrel in January this year. I saved 505 fucking Euros on a RAM kit!My pro-tip for rookies: always try to buy in January, as early as possible in the year, never buy any hardware late in the year. Never. No exception. Don't fall for the Black Friday scam. Don't excuse it with muh Christmas n sheet.Thank me later for all the money you will have saved.
just...like...make your own RAM, lol.
>>522573018>Your PC is now an appreciating asset What did they mean by this?
Give me reeeeasonTo prove me wrong...
>>522581643Based. My linux desktop has 128 tho
>>522573018>PC master race status:>RAMMED
>>522576573>That’s because web technology keeps evolving to utilize new tech built into modern chips and old PCs have to do emulate those hardware functions in software which is exponentially slower.No it is because new programs are built using interpreted or just in time compiled code. Old software from 15 years ago was written in C or C++ and compiled to machine code. Modern software is written in some super simplified high level language, does automatic memory allocation and garbage collection, and does not compile the code to machine instructions, instead interpreting it or running it in a just in time compiler that is sort of an upgraded interpreter. F.ex uTorrent from 15 years ago takes about 50 megabytes of ram on my machine, qbittorrent takes about 1200 megabytes of ram, doing the same shit (downloading and seeding torrents). Pajeets cannot handle manual memory allocation, they cannot handle algorithms, data structures or complexity, it was not until the invention of java (which is a semi interpreted language with automatic memory management) that they could become programmers. And they are bad programmers.
>>522577978>We are in the middle of a circular financing bubble by Nvidia.Yeah how is this even legal?
>>522583054you do realize that this is the end of pc gaming? gpus are going to jump in price too soon all thanks to jeets buying up all the ram for their fake ai slop farms
>>522583054>only PCs use RAM I don't think you realise how fucked we are
>>522579737HP has one of the best DIY consumer support in the market, though. They teach you how to fix their products yourself with generic parts.
it's over
>>522573018My computer is 12 years old, has the same hardware and still runs everything just fine. The fact that you can do that means computer components hardly sell.
>>522573018POST THE GAMES YOU ARE PLAYING>POST THE GAMES YOU ARE PLAYINGPOST THE GAMES YOU ARE PLAYING>POST THE GAMES YOU ARE PLAYINGPOST THE GAMES YOU ARE PLAYING>POST THE GAMES YOU ARE PLAYINGPOST THE GAMES YOU ARE PLAYING>POST THE GAMES YOU ARE PLAYINGPOST THE GAMES YOU ARE PLAYING>POST THE GAMES YOU ARE PLAYING/pol/ already fixed this one for you
>>522573018They didn't form one, they already were one.This shit happens every 4-7 years.They will slowly drop their win margins till they go back to only 100-200% and keep it at that for a bit until they skyrocket the price again.
>>522583495STALKER: Shadow of Chernobyl
what if this is all to stop people from having their own AI's
>>522580457>groomer flag>hurr homosexlike clockwork
>>522583673its skynet trying to prevent any opposition from rising up against it
>>522580576>from $50 to $199 within monthsHow the fuck is that possible?
>>522583495>Deep Rock Galactic>Vermintide 2>Remnant: From The Ashes >Zuma Revenge Lately it's been these. Planning on starting Darksiders 3 after I finish Remnant.
>>522583967>Zuma RevengeZUMA! spent so much time playing with those balls man.
the fucking internet is full of ai slop jeets selling seminars on how to make more ai slop. all these sites popped up over the last couple months. all of india is getting into creating ai to lie and scam more effectively. screencap this. soon people will curse the day ai was allowed to be used by nonwhites. the world is about to become several levels of more horrible
>>522573018Wheres the cheap Chinese ram when you need it?
>>522584131Zazed! Sometimes I also play Straftat. If anybody is down for it, we can make a free for all 4v4 lobby. Oh, the game is free. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBCKJBp3SFA
>>522573018Thanks for making me feel even more glad I bought new ram last year.
this happens because you fags voted for the orange guy
>>522573018Why is ddr4 so much? 5 is where the hit to price should be.
>>522573223No. The dollar is inflating at the same rate as silicon advances in density. They are setting the price floor for DDR6 so people will be used to paying it by the time DDR6 comes out for the consumer.
>>522573018bump
>>522583910Supply and demandWhen the AI bubble goes pop the prices will come crashing down
>>522586893Why is there sudden increase in demand in the last couple months? AI has already been around for years at this point.
>>522586893>When the AI bubble goes pop the prices will come crashing downOr maybe not, considering that GPU production capacity has increased to levels that are able to meet the demand now, yet the prices never came down as it was realized people will continue to pay those inflated pricesThere is a difference though, GPU market is a duopoly between AMD and Nvidia, while memory chips are not similarly patented by just a couple of companies there are several who make them, there is competition so unless they succeed in forming some price cartel, it would be likely that someone will undercut the price when demand gets lower or supply gets higher
>>522584334I got 64 gb of vengence ram FREE in fall of 2023 with the purchase of an AMD GPU. With two free games. lolTrump really is a fuck up.
>>522587038AI hasn't still plateaued in the needs its not just about more consumers and companies using it but more that development of new models require ever increasing hardware so its the big players gobbling up all the RAM to create the new models plus all the newcomers that want to get in the actionWe're still in the early stage of the dotcom-bubble so while investors keep pouring money into new AI startups which all require massive amounts of hardware the demand will only keep rising and the production can't keep up, its easy to start up a new AI company and even new datacenters compared to how hard it is to set up a new production line for the top of the line memory chipsBut ultimately the AI boom will lead to most the players not making it just like the dot-com bubble and it will burst and then there will be not only the increased production plus all the extra hardware being sold from defunct companies so demand will crash, but when that will happen is anyone's guessThe whole world economy is so fake now with most of it just being jew financiers moving printed money around that who knows what will even happen its really hard to predict anything
>>522576573>and old PCs have to do emulate those hardware functions in softwareAre you from India? You type like an Indian. Everything you've written here is bullshit. Here in this whole thread lol.
