I get the arguments for Auschwitz being fake, but why would Nazis destroy Belzec, Sobibor, Treblinka if they are work camps? Also is there an argument against the carbon monoxide based chambers working?
>>522590346>1PBTIDThe holohoax didn't happen but it should have.
>>522590346Ok anon, explain to me this : why all of this death camps were in the Judeo-bolshevik zone of occupation? Why didn't we have extermination camps anywhere else ?
>>522590346Because they worked people to death there. No gas chambers though!
>>522591304They were in a frontier area to hide their crimes? Its not like Nazis didn't make it clear they were sending them to camps in the east.
>>522591442Then why would they destroy it to hide the evidence? They didn't destroy work camps
>>522590346because they probably knew that the faggot kiked soviets would use any evidence of anything to smear them with propaganda as they did anyway. scorched earth was a very common tactic for every army throughout history, and is not remarkable in any way.
>>522591554Ah frontier area that we wanted to make it the industrial part of Germany? Strange I thought frontier was supposed to be the border between Europe and Asia not the middle of Europe
>>522590346I'm not convinced either way, but burning shitloads of diesel while your fuel starved armies fight an existential war, just to kill about two million people, that seems a bit dumb, especially when e.g. the Americans simply starved about a million German POWs after the war in the span of just six monthsAnother point that makes me lean toward atrocity propaganda is the odd cicrumstance that according to the official narrative, Germans forced inmates to DIG UP millions of corpses months after they'd been killed, just to burn them in open pit fires. That seems, well, more than a bit dumbFinally, I always wonder WHY would Nazis go to such bizarre lengths to 'cover their crimes'. Did they genuinely think they'd get a fair trial from victorious jews?
>>522592009>Finally, I always wonder WHY would Nazis go to such bizarre lengths to 'cover their crimes'. Did they genuinely think they'd get a fair trial from victorious jews?Also this, why keep the shoes but make sure there ain't no bodies
>>522591554poland isn't a frontier anon.
>>522592471do you realize what you just typed?you fucking slobbering retard--Poland has been nothing but the endlessly contested borderlands of central Europe for literally its entire existencethat is the dumbest motherfucking thing I have ever actually fucking readnever fucking post anything again, ever, and please eradicate every trace of your genetic existence from the human biological record
>>522591304Becase that's where the Jews lived and that's where the fighting took place that those Jews were immediate vicinity of to sabotage the German war effort.
>>522591304>why all of this death camps were in the Judeo-bolshevik zone of occupation? Why didn't we have extermination camps anywhere else ?Because that's where most of the Jews and Slavs in Europe were before the war. You don't build a sawmill a thousand kilometers from the nearest tree.>>522592009> that seems a bit dumb,Have you considered the possibility that, possibly, Hitler wasn't very bright? This is a man who expected Poland to make territorial concessions ONE YEAR after he'd asked Czechoslovakia for minor concessions and then invaded the whole country.>Finally, I always wonder WHY would Nazis go to such bizarre lengths to 'cover their crimes'.Desperation.
>>522591304There were 22 death camps in Germany it just so happened to be that when the red cross went and checked 16 of them, the death camp part turned out to be Soviet Jew lies
>>522590346It didnt happen, but if it did they deserved it
>>522590346>Also is there an argument against the carbon monoxide based chambers working?Yeah just use a bullet. You sent short on bullets you are short on oil. Carbon monoxide being a product of combustion.
>>522590346i dont think treblinka is getting enough love. highly underrated. auschwitz taking all the spotlight away
>>522596577This retard doesn't know the majority of concentration camps were in occupied Poland
>>522595111Nice trips.>Have you considered the possibility that, possibly, Hitler wasn't very bright? This is a man who expected Poland to make territorial concessions ONE YEAR after he'd asked Czechoslovakia for minor concessions and then invaded the whole country.It would have been quite bipolar from Poland to say that Germany was an aggressor for taking more land under their protectorate than their international treatises allowed in reaction to Poland taking Zaolzie from Czechoslovakia, which no international treatise allowed.
>>522593558Frontier doesn’t mean contested border
>>522590346ONE THIRD of the HOLOCAUSThttps://rumble.com/v6yy8eq-one-third-of-the-holocaust.html?e9s=src_v1_s%2Csrc_v1_s_o&sci=e5533222-2df0-4c2b-82d6-db199d2dc926
>>522596577Red Cross only checked the camps in the west.
>>522596944OY VEY, MORE HOLOCAUST QUESTIONS by David Cole(reddit spacing)https://altcensored.com/watch?v=J8BFun32Vdo
>>522590346Transit CampIf Treblinka was not an extermination center, what was it? As already mentioned, the balance of evidence indicates that Treblinka II – along with Belzec and Sobibor – was a transit camp, where Jewish deportees were stripped of their property and valuables before being transferred eastwards into German-occupied Soviet territories.[43]https://codoh.com/library/document/treblinka-3/They were de-lousing stations..
>>522590346If you want to do lot of holocausting you shoot people not>arrange search teams to find them>arrest them>walk them or drive to train station>load into train>build train track>build trains>train train staff>mine coal for train>transport coal to train>drive train to camp>build camp>build swimming pool to camp>unload train>make prison clothes>tattoo victims>make them go gas chamber>load bodies to oven>burn for hoursyou just shoot them
Belzec, Sobibor, and Treblinka campshttps://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Belzec,_Sobibor,_and_Treblinka_camps
>>522597658The reason the Jews were rounded up and interned was because they posed a threat being that close to the front. What sense would it make to move them even closer to the front?
HOLOCAUST DEPROGRAMMING COURSEFree yourself from a lifetime of Holo-brainwashing about “Six Million” Jews “gassed” in “Gas Chambers Disguised as Shower Rooms”https://web.archive.org/web/20210415002546/https://holocaustdeprogrammingcourse.com/
>>522597846All that refutes Auschwitz, but most of that isn't relevant to the Reinhard camps.
>>522597991The Jews who were still in Germany (the ones not transfered to Palestine) were put into the camps to protect them from the Allied bombing campaign of the German men, women and children, the real holocaust.
>>522590346>oy vey treblinka!only a dumb goy would believe thishttps://odysee.com/$/download/One-Third-of-the-Holocaust-2008/1885b362e6beecf2cf8257ccb65a57ef96a81095
>>522590346the entire premise is stupid. Why would they go to all the trouble of rounding up and carting these people all over europe just to execute them? It would have been far easier to load them on train cars, pipe the train exhaust through the cars and dump the bodies right out the other side of the train cars a mile up the tracks. It just isn't logical.
>>522598605or, you know, just poison their food and water. jonestown showed that it’s much more efficient to just poison people. or even spike them with a syringe loaded with poison. you could take a couple of 12 years olds and let them brainstorm a better way to kill people than the official story. it’s absurdly retarded on every level
>>522598369How could have the vast majority of the Reinhard camp inmates make use of the Haavara Agreement in 1933?How is going or not going to Palestine relevant at all to the Reinhard camp Jews?
>>522598605Because they didn't want to give fuel for anti-German propaganda by committing a crime so blatantly? Because they learned what kind of a reaction even something at the scale of the Katyn massacre has?
>>522591648>evidenceof what?There's no reason to 'destroy a camp'
>>522590346destroying the camps wouldn't hide the nonexistent tower of ash and bone fragments.you destroy the camps so they can't put YOU in them. fucking basic exit strategies unlike biden's no plan withdrawal and gift to communism as he is one the tanks etc.
>>522601097there is. it's basic military strategy.the holpcaust never happened, because the mountain of evidence can't vanish by thr zapping ufo: we the wise far right are of the great wisdom and are the AGI. we knoe the holocaust never happened.
>>522590346Nice old documentary debunking Treblinkahttps://rumble.com/v6q8ouq-one-third-of-the-holocaust.html
>>522596885Their willingness to grab land when they get the chance doesn't mean they can't recognize a land grab from the other side.
>>522595111the pollaks themselves took parts of czechoslovakiaand the only reason poland sadly exists today is because England threw away their empirenow that was stupid
>>522597846About half the Jews holocausted WERE just shot on site, though, and a lot were sent to camps other than Auschwitz. A lot of Holocaust denialist literature boils down to proving "Auschwitz didn't burn six million Jews", which is TRUE but it's also not what the normie historians claimed in the first place.>build swimming pool to campAuschwitz started out as a concentration camp, not an extermination camp, IIRC. Some of the prisoners held there were considered rehabilitatable. Pic related is one of the worse examples of what the NSDAP considered "rehabilitatable".
>>522604367ah yes the six million are all in mass graves noone can seefunny how that works
>>522604367> A lot of Holocaust denialist literature boils down to proving "Auschwitz didn't burn six million Jews.”No, they usually intend to prove that 3-4 million Jews were not gassed in homicidal gas chambers. That’s the biggest lie, so that is what Holocaust Historians focus on the most.Still, Jews in the Eastern Territories were Hamas, and everything was justified.
>>522604507That's not what he said.It's not 6 million, but yes mass graves (some of which found) or burned in piles.
>>522605291so there were millions gassed afterall or not?what exactly are you kikes trying to sayits hard to keep up with your nonsense
>>522604507Archeological surveys are consistent with large-scale body burning at some camps, Auschwitz included. The design of the gas chambers doesn't make sense for the "delousing" cover story - you don't need wooden doors or armored glass peepholes if you're gassing CLOTHES. We use Zyklon B for fumigation NOW, and when we do it we use TENTS.
>>522605412Some of them were, Himmler knew the Eisantzgruppen weren't enough to just go around MG42ing Jews into ditches, they needed a non-barbaric way to get rid of lots of people and that was carbon-monoxide poisoning, so that was gassing.I'm not really interested in proving the Holocaust but just because lots of retarded lies are stacked up in one direction doesn't mean that the SS couldn't have undertaken a drastic measure.
>>522605429>>522605838man these jewish fairytales are really somethign else
>>522593558that's the dumbest thing you've ever read?you haven't been here very long or you're a hyperbolic fagabond wandered in from reddit.go backpoland isn't a frontier its been a Christian kingdom with a Christian king longer than Sweden or Russia. It participated in the 1st Crusade. being in between russia and germany doesn't make it a "frontier"
>>522605429I'm sorry, what are you saying? Delousing was a "cover story"? To what extent?
>>522605429no, there are no archeological surveys consistent with large scale body burning. you’re just parroting jewish lies
>>522590346>is there an argument against the carbon monoxide based chambers working?what was the supposed "source" of said carbon monoxide? Oh, really? Powered by what, again (fuel)? hrmm, that's odd ... ...wait a minute
>>522606944>>522606545Both of you are right, it's annoying there seem to be some valid proof indicating that the Reinhard camps were extermination camps (killing only 2 million according to the Korherr report requested by Himmler), but basically all the physical evidence is lacking.But saying that all the paperwork is simpy fabrication and that all the post-war Nazi confessions are due to coercion, doesn't feel correct.
>>522605951That hungarian literally said his proof of the holocaust is "it is hypothetically possible."It isn't, of course, but literally that's his reasoning? Fuckin' Khazars man... Gotta hand it to 'em.
>>522607870>all the post-war Nazi confessionsMy guy, of the 106~ guys who testified at Nuremberg, only 4 had any testicles left intact. Don't act like tortured testimony is valid in any universe.
>>522606407IIRC, during the Holocaust at least one of the gas chambers was fitted with shower heads and the victims were told they were going to be showered to get rid of lice.Postwar, a lot of Nazi apologists argue that the records of the gas chambers and Zyklon B shipments just prove the Nazis were fumigating clothing. The problem with that story is that the Nazis had also requisitioned an armored glass peephole for the gas chamber, which would be meaningless if the objective was ACTUALLY fumigating clothing.
>>522608419So you're saying that a few inches of glass is a functional replacement for a supply chain of tens of thousands of men transporting the fuel necessary to accomplish the lies you're spewing?Do you have any idea how many gallons of high quality fuel it takes to burn those bodies? And you're saying that because it was never delivered, nor any other means of mass corpse disposal, that a few inches of glass were instead used to magically disappear all the alleged murder victims?Sorry holocaust accuser, but if you want to start a murder trial you need a body. You have zero bodies.
>>522608319When I said post-war I didn't mean slightly after the armed conflicted ceased, I mean actually after the war, even into the 70s when they were on their deathbeds, Nuremberg is still part of the events of WW2, David Irving even calls it the last battle.Nobody who was present as personnel at the Reinhard camps came forward to say they were just transit camps, and the people who confessed never recanted it.But I know you've learned the meme answers well and can repost a few jpg's I've seen a million times to me, you don't have to reply to me anymore.
>>522590346Ballsack.
>>522592009Even if they thought they would win the war by the time operation Reinhardt was concluded (they didnt), they wouldn't want to just leave a bunch of bodies there. It would cause panic among locals and fuel partisan groups. There is also evidence of gravedigging at all the sites
>>522608419Well there were lots of things asserted with regard to gassings and showers, but one thing's certain is that they couldn't have introduced Zyklon B into the chamber through showerheads because Zyklon B was soaked into large pellets of gypsum from which the cyanide gas evaporates. Also if you're thinking of the same gaschamber I'm also blanking on then in that chamber in addition to the showerheads not being capable of letting in the pellets, the showerheads on the ceiling would have been so low that the executees could have just sealed the holes of the heads with their palms.Saying Zyklon B was used for fumiagating clothes for the overwhelming majority of the time is not Nazi apologism though, even the anti-revisionist Holocaust researcher Jean Pressac says that 95% of the Zyklon B was used for disinfecting not just clothes but buildings etc.
>>522592448They didn't keep the shoes at Reinhard camps. They were dismantled and ploughed over.
>>522605429>Archeological surveys are consistent with large-scale body burning at some campsFind us one of these please. Last I checked one such recent study at one of the death camps for a documentary ended up finding nothing and turning into a huge embarrassment.
>>522590346The Nazi's had really good branding, I can see why it was so popular in the world at the time with White people. They werent some fat bald headed rednecks in the deep woods sleeping in a garbage strewn trailer. These guys were serious, they dressed cutting edge sharp, they looked clean and crisp, their architecture had timeless elegance coupled with bold branding, and the people had class. These groups nowadays are basically just extensions of violent prison gangs.
>>522609585do you talk like this much of a fag in real life?
>>522604367>About half the Jews holocausted WERE just shot on siteI think the estimate for the shootings in Soviet territory is like 1.8 million which sounds grossly exaggerated. Babi Yar is claimed to be 33k jews and Odessa is supposed to be the biggest with 50k. But at least there is photo and video evidence for those events. The gas chamber stuff is grossly lacking in any consistent evidence. It makes more sense that the jews in those camps were simply worked/starved to death, and the so-called extermination camps were just transit points.
Jews were moved to camps during WW2.Some died of various causes (including murder).Jews have been milking that story for 80 years now, and today they're doing a real genocide in Palestine.That's all there is to say. I'm not interested in discussing the finer details.
>>522597846Most of the work at the extermination camps were done by Kapos, Trawnikis, and sonderkommando. Swimming pools and other stuff were for staff.
>>522608419They had separate delousing chambers anyways. Holocaust revusionistslike Irving, Leuchter, etc. say they are just morgues with crematorium
>>522609044>People in an occupied nation threatened with prison time said what they were told to say.>I believe them without question.Its been a hot minute and they still throw people in jail if they don't spout propaganda. And you want me to think they're the good guys? That Israel should exist? Gaza attacked them, and totally took hostages? What's the extent of the dogshit you're going to drag across my carpet?
>>522609496Less zyklon B is required for killing humans than delousing and fumigation. It takes min 300ppm to kill humans and like tens of thousands to kill bugs. Delousing was also a constant process unlike the gas chambers.
>>522610444>>522610542Why are you retarded ferrets trying to talk to a man?
>>522609409The powers that be specifically (and at great expense) inhibit any search for graves. There may be a reason for this.>>522609585Damn straight. And what Nazi values could POSSIBLY be warped to make 60 million people simultaneously genocidal "for no reason?" Oh right - none. The keen Nazi aesthetic is proof enough that they were kind and altruistic people.>>522609786Soviets were known liars to begin with, and also were mostly Khazars themselves. Given that 100% of the claims they made that we were able to investigate were absolute lies, I'm forced to assume that 100% of what we *couldn't* investigate is also a lie. Just stands to reason.
>>522610542Zyklon doesn't kill humans easily, you must be thinking of a different chemical. Zyklon B causes cyanide poisoning, which was never described by any witnesses. Of ALL the books and memoirs and all that ever written, none of the authors were aware that the specific chemical the Nazis were accused of using as a murder agent just happens to produce corpses with a VERY VERY OBVIOUS unique visual property. The ONLY corpses to turn more red instead of gray/green.While its physically possible (just difficult) to kill with Zyklon B, it is TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE for millions of witnesses to simultaneously fail to mention the most obvious visual characteristic of their shared experience.>>522610727>I ran out of hot air so now I'll just claim I'm a human for a while.Sure you are, Moshe. Sure you are.
>>522593558>Poland>60%-70% same haplogroup>99% CatholicYou really are a retard.
You're all stupid pale cattle euro trash and that's why you're missing the pointThe point is not what exactly happened or where, the point is that euro trash pale hicks created an environment where putting people in camps based on ethnic or religious categories was a viable idea to them. That's what the euro trash doesn't grasp, euro trash pale hicks like the Germans and the dutch and the mongol Russians don't understand that they're fundamentally broken, yokels, absolute trash
>>522611183so, you’re saying you have brown skin. gotcha, nigger
>>522611415Completely bizarre thing to say. Doesn't even make sense. Throwing a post up on pol doesn't make you a witty hipster or whatever you imagine yourself to be
>>522610993Damn this is an incredible point I never considered either. There were many many other common sense arguments against the likelihood but if truly the deaths from zyklon b would cause cyanide poisoning that resulted in corpses looking like picrel, there would be tons of eyewitness accounts.We have none. Not to mention the insanity of the logistics of killing 20,000 people a day to hit the 6 million number. So ridiculous.
>>522611183Most camps were created as humanitarian aid. NOBODY in their right mind wanted war. Only Bolsheviks. The VAST majority of troops surrendered immediately - tens of millions of people - all of whom needed food and shelter through a conflict of unknown duration. (Hence the immediacy of the Eastern Front.)Without the allies bombing out German supply lines, those people wouldn't have starved or died of typhus. The DEATHS in the camps are on us, not the Germans. The purpose of the camps was to keep people alive.
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>>522590346The Germans didn't use chemical weapons in Stalingrad or even in final desperation when they knew the Russians were going to rape all of their women and children in Berlin. But yeah, they definitely made sure to use it in the camps. Just the ones in the East, though.
>>522614104Naked bodies in train crash? kek you faggots are getting desperate.>The purpose of the camps was to keep people alive.rofl
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Corpse_FactoryComing through with a curious memory hole
>>522591554NPC argument.
>>522591793>to smear themLmao they got smeared alright by the soviets
