How does /pol even reconcile this?
>>522605755Not to be the why not both guy, but why not both?
>>522605755Masses are filled with individuals with different traits? And taking low paying jobs still qualifies you for welfare kike
>>522605755they work under the table and collect welfareit's actually not hard to understand when you realize there is employment fraud occurring by US employers
>>522605755man works for low wages stealing jobshis family comes along and apply for benefits, taking welfareyour welcome
>libtards think these are mutually exclusiveThis is why you are losing.
Obviously they do both.
I don't need to. Pajeets are fucking disgusting scum.
Haven't we covered this one already? And it turns out Oba- I mean Biden gave temporary protected status to over 20 million illegals, instantly qualifying them for free housing, EBT, and medicaid.So yes they work under the table and receive gibs as well. These are established facts now, this kind of thread might have flown before we had iron clad proof of what was going on but it's kinda working against you now.I would advise to go back to "Who will clean the toilets?"
>>522605755>work off the table for wages Americans cannot compete with>eligible for unemployment because they are off the booksReally not a hard concept
>>522605755Not all immigrants are equal, dumbshit.
>>522605755Nobody wants to play with your faggot ass straw man.
>>522605755This thread again. DO NOT RESPOND. It's been hashed over 1000 times now.Lurk More
>>522605755>foreign scab labor that also eats public benefitsbut also hanging the people who argue it like its some gotcha
>>522605755also, when it comes to h1b American taxpayers subsidizeUS businesses + h1b avoiding certain payroll taxes for the first two years they are here
>>522605755do you even science? it's BOTH. op is a retard. this is a retard thread.
>>522606063Fuck you faggot. I can respond if I want to. Someone needed to say it’s both.
>>522605755>do black labour so none of the income is taxed or in the system while also collecting benefits from the state cause you don't have official employmentWhat's to reconcile here? This has been the go-to tactic for illegals for decades here, pretty sure it's true in the US as well.
>>522605755It's both you fucking shitbag retarded lefty, the numbers are that high you see both overwhelmed, how fucking hard is that to understand? Fail harder reddit moron
>>522605755what do you think an immigrant does? he either works and salary dumps the locals or he doesn't and sucks up welfare. it's ok if you have a net neutral migration exchange with their country or if the arriving immigrant is in the top 10% of your society (therefore creating jobs instead of filling them, or doing high level specialist work) otherwise it is always a net negative.In case of domestic full employment you might want your innovators create automations rather than importing the third world
>>522605755Theyre doing both you stupid kike
-Paid under table by undercutting wages of Americans, pay no taxes, enjoy all the services provided by taxpayer funds, get charity help, apply for a host of welfare benefits. Pay sales tax.There are millions (15 to 30 million or more) of variations of this type of abuse, not just a few and that is the problem.
>>522606011If they arent white they will never be American and they should never be allowed here.
>>522605755Political discourse hasn't really moved in at least 30 years. This "arguement" is fucking ancient.
>>522606401Now you're gonna tell us who is and isn't white, right moshe? You niggers are too easy to spot because you are predictable.
>>522605755It's both you nigger retard. One large group takes the jobs, the other large group that cannot get hired get given free money to justify their stay. Leaving neither jobs nor welfare for the citizens of the country >>522606300Thank you anon you beat me to the punch
>>522605755they get paid cash for work (fiat debt peonage slavery talmud paper)then collect benefits from phoenician banking corporate personage enfranchisement scams (also talmudic)
>>522605755They're taking jobs while collecting welfare. Simple.
>>522606315>what do you think an immigrant does? he either works and salary dumps the locals or he doesn't and sucks up welfare.this is also true of citizens thoughyou need an economic system that isn't based around a high-stakes competition of all against all
>>5226057551pbtid gotcha thread.
>>522605755They are taking our sense of unity. Do you remember 911, even though it was a false flag, it produced such a sense of belonging. Now I doubt even an entire city being nuked would produce that.
>>522605755GET ALL ILLEGALSO U T.And prosecute all employers who hired illegals in the first place.Charge the traitors with treason.Is that clear, op?
>>522606483As a white man with 100% white children i will decide who is white and of my culture you inbred gypsy. Kikes will never be white or American and the lolocaust will happen.
>>522606698The fear of being nuked might cause regional unity.But nukes arent real so
>>522606834you wont do shit because you're neither white nor american you fucking dumb obvious kikeget the fuck out jew
>>522606786Just the illegals? Na. every kike, mexcreant, bug nigger, curry nigger and nigger nigger must go or we can never manifest our cultural destiny. We dont need tax pigs and welfare slaves for the kike golem army in the US.
>>522606924Were coming for you kike nigger
>>522605755That's actually precisely how working under the table worksNiggers think illegals fill out w4s
>>522606934>>522606956you're not white stupid jew, take your divide and conquer shit back to israelthe moment you thought you could tell us who is and isnt white was when you fucked up. kill yourself mohel
>>522606623sure, that is valid however importing immigrants is a deliberate destabilizing act, while population changes is a more organic process.
>>522605755They scab and work for low wages while taking welfare.
>>522606315>eitherThey do both. They enter the country illegally, steal social security numbers (plural), raid food banks on a circuit, get an off the books job at a tech help center that's also a scam call center, then collect welfare. They also get three remote jobs where they do nothing but threaten to sue if fired.
>>522605755https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/29/us/fraud-minnesota-somali.htmlBetween this and the illegals who are killing people with trucks there is no denying it. >>522606623>you need an economic system that isn't based around a high-stakes competition of all against allNo, they need to go the fuck home and stop sending money into the fiscal black hole known as their home. The programs are there for citizens. You cannot have a healthy social safety net and open migration with cultural aliens who are incapable of functioning civilization or simply malicious in their intent for coming. Muh economics don't mean shit when there are barbarians killing people.
>>522605755>How does /pol even reconcile this?Pretty easily retard, because they get paid less than minimum wage and report their income as such. That means not only do they get paid under the table they also collect social entitlement benefits. Now kill yourself promptly.
>>522607135i hope starmer arrest you and has you gang raped by migrants on national television and makes an example of you just for posting here.
>>52260575550 million take jobs, the other 50 million are on welfare.I understand you are an idiot but jfc anon
>>522605755There's no contradiction here
>>522605755>1. They are taking all our jobs.This is demonstrably true. Pick your industry - healthcare, tech, construction, doesn't matter. They're getting preferential college placement, and it's usually free. Company execs are getting bonuses from jewish shareholders to reduce costs, and you can hire 2 jeets, spics, Nigerians, whatever for what it costs for one competent white employee. They aren't good at their jobs and responsibility for tasks is being shouldered by white employees, with the additional burden of babysitting these retarded browns. And then getting passed over for promotion. Middle management frequently doesn't require any skill, it's slavedriving the people doing the actual work. Minorities love lording power over white people.>2. They are lazily taking all our welfareAlso true. They have lower standards of living and will shack up with a dozen other people in a single family home (in a white neighborhood). Their salaries are comparably low (or they're paid under the table in cash, or social security number payroll scams, etc) and they qualify for welfare - or know how to scam the system to appear eligible. This puts pressure on the welfare system and decent working Whites have been systematically removed from all kinds of programs they used to depend on. Meanwhile their taxes pay for these same programs the browns are taking advantage of.It's not a contradiction. They're doing both. And they all have to go.Unfortunately this will never happen until we solve the problem of the people preventing us from solving it - the jews.
>>522605755they're illustrating the 50/50 outcomes of the majority of immigrants anyways. this is not the own they think it is.
>>522605755Same way 22 states refuse to show their EBT fraud full of illegals.
I simply don't like niggers or shitskins. I don't care if they work. I don't care if they're lazy. I don't care if they're wealthy, I don't care if they're poor. I don't care whether they are upstanding citizens or violent degenerate criminals.shit-colored skin is unpleasant to look at. any language aside from English spoken by Whites is unpleasant to listen to. every last shitskin can get fuck out immediately on their own dime or face the wall.
>>522605872>thisIt makes no sense since lolberts and miga have to constantly cover for the employers
Six months ago>immigrants aren't on welfareLast month>don't take immigrants off welfareLast week>its OK that they're stealing from youI think the left is speed running becoming most hated political party in centuries
>>522609398I was think the same whenever I have Spanish forced on me.I'd legitimately rather be speaking German. I bet there's a lot of French and English that feel the same these days except its Farsi or Hindi or whatever instead of spic
>>522609680good point actually, I meant it in an American context. I don't ever hear European languages but I would have no complaints if I did
>>522605858There's nothing mutually exclusive about those things.
>>522605755>Repeat thread #30007Lurk moarIt's been refuted to death. Played out fully.
>>522605755Masturbation
>>522605755There's nothing to reconcile. They take the jobs, abuse the welfare system and everything that they earn is sent outside the country as remittance free of taxes. Not a burger btw
>>522605755Illegal immigrants take a job and are willing to work for less than minimum wage. This depresses wages throughout the industry, to the point where a full time employee is applying for WIC benefits to feed their children. By accepting less than what is a fair wage for the work they are doing, they cut everyone's throat including their own. The taxpayer is the one who ultimately covers the shortfall.
>>522605755When you work a job for cash (many do) you can still get bennies because no tax records. So yeah. Why not both?
Jeets are taking all the jobs, undocumented workers took the seasonal jobs.Niggers are taking the welfare
>>522609435The employees are leftists. Big corps want cheap labor, left wing government import cheap labor. It's not that hard for normal people to understand. (Which is why the rights messenging has been so effective)
>>522605755Threads that don't get at least three unique OP replies within the first ten minutes should be automatically deleted.
>>522605755THERE IS MORE THAN ONE OF THEM RIGHT? If there was two and one took your job and the other took your welfare?
>>522605755It isn't so much about "taking our jobs". You here them upset because there is immigrants whom work and they don't, but you are either stupid or purposely ignoring the fact that the reason this is bad is because nobody should be working those jobs at that pay. Generations before us fought hard to get worker rights and livable wages, and all that is thrown out the window when you have a revolving door of cheap immigrant labor. But illegals from the south aren't even half the problem. The real problem is the "legal" immigration from places like India. They come and work 7 days a week, as many hours as they can get, doing whatever unethical working practices the lazy corrupt management wants from them. This isn't good for your economy, this is good only for the corrupt fat asses that don't want to go get their own groceries/junk food. And the compounding factor are the liberal morons who are also those same fat asses, collecting welfare, riding the system as hard as they can, and then supporting their own replacement.
I love having an undocumented slave class that isn't culturally integrated and waves the flag of their home country openly and sends every dollar illegally earned back there to bring more of them over to get more free taxpayer funded free shitBased open borders
>>522611047*dinga dinga dinga dinga dinga dinga dinga*
>>522605755Mexican illegals and Indian H1bs are working for no money. Somalians and other middle eastern browns are getting asylum and then refusing to work and getting welfare for their kids. Not that hard to figure out.
>>522605755I call that a Chavez, Supports his people working in America, but is Anti-Illegal Immigration.
>>522605755The goblinas come here and make 8 anchor babies and collect welfare while the goblinos work under the table for $10 an hour taking all of the jobs. Neither claims the other and gaming the system for welfare fraud is a Mexican tradition
>>522605755I recall there was a post on /g/ about some poo coder filing for HR discrimination because his boss(es) keep putting C++ work for him to do. In the poo's mind, C++ = Dalit, Java = Brahmin, I shit you not.
>>522605755
>>522612062This is the answer. I lived among them when I lived in California and they all do this.
Do you think that Slaves work hard or something?
>>522605755If you weren't such a fucking retard you could clearly see how >be Mexican >drive down wages in industries to the point Native couldn't possibly compete >slave wages are livable wages>thus the parasite has to be subsidized by the tax payer via EBT, Medicaid, free school food, federal pell grants for higher education, etc. You fucking DUMB ASS
>>522605755>take welfare>go to a illegal jobany questions ?
>>522612340>>slave wages are livable wages*aren't livable wages
>>522605755They live in communal living conditions which turn into barrios. Yes they do both.
>>52260575530 M I L L I O N CAME IN UNDER BIDEN A L O N EYOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW MANY THERE ARETHERES SO MANY THAT YES THEY ARE TAKING ALL THE WELFARE AND ALL THE JOBS THATS HOW MANY THERE ARE
>>522612235It gets even better. Most actually file a W2 with a fake SSN so they can meet the work requirements for most types of public assistance.I know OP's trolling but many liberals don't understand that that is the reality, that they undercut native labor and then fuck them out of welfare benefits on type of that since they don't meet the employment requirement.And then on fucking top of that: non-citizens do not have to pay any federal income taxes, including FICA. They get 100% rebates in April every year, every single penny withheld is refunded.
>>522612423>Immigrants hole up 20 to a house>They're also taking up millions of homes at a time
>>522612511YES THATS HOW MANY THERE ARE
>>522612511Diving a million or more by 20 and yes the number is quite revealing, especially to normalfags who just want to live normal lives but can't afford to compete with 20 slave laborers.
>>522606011In the eyes of the liberal, every immigrant is the same person
>>522612726
>>522605755OP leftie does not know that the eight jeets living in one 60 sqm apartment in LA not only cause his rent to go up and his wage to go down, but they also get healtcare from medical for free, while he has to pay hefty taxes for it and play the cancer gacha while waiting in the queue. keka conqured cuck xebnophile
>>522605755How new are you? They obviously work under the table while not paying taxes while collecting welfare benefits at the same time.
>>522605755>IT CANT BE BOTH IT CANT IT JUST CANT REEEEEEE>family comes over>1 works illegal job>rest take government gibsFUCKING ONE POST FAGGOT KILL YOURSELF.
>>522606993 your family will get chopped into chunks soon nigger
>>522605755I actually prefer the >We need immigrants because we don't have enough workers but>We are going to lose most of our jobs to AI and automation in the next ten years dichotomy
>>522605755yes. they are doing both. all of them.
>>522612511fair point: let me explain to you the little money x immigration combowombo>endstage of anocracy "the little money">big corporations buy all the houses in cities X>hire and inspect them with inspection firms>close 90% of houses, flip the 10% more profitable>due to the created scarcity, the price of houses and rent goes up>make as much money out of 1.000 houses, that they would have made with 10.000 if they had left them open, also pay maintenance only for that 10% of houses cutting 90% maintenance fees.>so despite population decreasing, the price of houses goes up, the bodies of (immigrants) pile up in apartments, the houses get shittier and shittier, the concrete keeps being poured down to make more houses>use unrented houses as collateral for investments>because value of houses is up due to them creating their scarcity, the value of their collateral is also up. It is a way to print money without printing money, sudo-inflation (it affect you even if you are as afar as possible from it)>when finally unrented houses have to be torn down, get procurements for yourself and your friends>if the houses aren't torn down get procurements for yourself and your friends for new houses and concrete pouring>you will never be able to outbid them if you keep the system up.the left vote for these people to stay in power (even if they disagree they vote for them) and for socialism for immigrants at the expense of the natives.how long can it keep going this way? eh nigger?
>>522605755There are some decreasing the cost of labor by flooding the low entry positions, and there are some that are just absorbing welfare benefits.
>>522605755I work in retail and I see fresh off the boat spics who barely knows English buying hundreds of dollars of crap and paying with cash. Who the fuck is giving them this money?
> How does /pol even reconcile thisThe same fucking way it does every time this retarded shit gets posted here you fucking faggot.
They claim welfare and work for cash under the table you fucking moron
Because they take welfare by stealing identifies while also working for slave wages under the table to send back home. Even the most cursory glance at the stats not show to you by the MSM proves this irrefutably/thread a go kill yourself, you cum guzzling, anus leaking, AIDS catching nigger.
>>522605755immigrants are paid under the table and collect welfare........ it's simple and your thread is being reported as spam for posting this shit again after having been told 100s of times
>>522605755this would be a point if there was one (1) immigrants you stupid ass niggaif there's millions of them then their numbers are sufficient to both oversaturate the job market AND provide an eclipsing mass of welfare leechesdenounce the talmud
>>522605755the literally do bothNiggers come here you think they have money for rent, food, doctors and shit? Fuck no. By all merit they should be homeless and begging in the street but they are not because refugee settlement services existed..well not anymore but they did prior to 2024
>>522605755Both are true.Immigrants come.Companies use them as an excuse to keep pay rates low, even if they are not hired.Leftists will grant them benefits because they are used to propel their own agenda.Truth is that illegal immigration is a problem everywhere including Mexico.I don't like Venzuelans coming in here. They are drug addicts.I don't like Colombians. They are criminals.I don't like Hindus coming in here.I don't like Haitians coming in here.I don't like mystery meat asians coming in here.I don't want to be a foreigner in my own land.My ancestors worked this land, you are not entitled to it.
>>522616020Do you really think all those jewish NGOs closed up shop just because rabbi Trump did a few photo op arrests?
>>522605755thats not a contradiction though?work for 75% the price, under the table, get more money than if u paid taxes.employer makes bank not hiring citizensand you suck up tax payer money thats used to bribe you into working the jobs at 75% value, all corrupt individuals win, and citizens loose.its straight forward.are you a midwit?
They get too fat after a few years and become lazy racism whiners at the job. Immigrant children do this when they are adults.
>>522605755they oftentimes work under the table and collect welfare. just drop "lazily" and the hyperbolic "all" and both are accurate.
>>522605755>How does /pol even reconcile this?Literally both lol do it in your own fucking country faggots
>>522605755>immigrants come over and get gibs>because they get gibs, they can work for less than native-born populaiton>because they're illiterate and paid shit wages, they perform substandard work>this burdens the citizens on multiple fronts (lowered wages, increased housing costs, higher taxes, less access to social services, lack of access to quality goods)take your false dichotomy and shove it up your ass
>>522605755They both idiot. Thats the problem. You got the ones who work for cheap and the ones abusing welfare. Some do both at the same time.
>>522605755Didn't realize there was only one immigrant, oh wait there are millions.
>>522605755If some dirty barefoot immigrant who barely speaks English can take your job then you're a fucking loser beyond help.
>How does /pol even reconcile this?
>>522618074society needs its losers to fill some kind of productive role
Am not even American and can already tell you how retarded this argument is
>>522605755they literally get free housing, healthcare, and food from government (taxpayers). Then they go work under the table for cash. They undercut a legitimate worker because the scumbag construction company or roofers or meat packing companies would rather pay Pablo $10/hour cash than pay a legit American a proper wage of $20-$30/hour PLUS benefits. So the illegal then sends that cash over to their native country whether to family members or some kind of holding or bank. Once they get old, kicked out, or just saved enough they come back to the shithole they fled and live like kings because housing is dirt cheap in a shithole nation.
If you're working under the table, you can collect welfare since you have no records of employment.
>>522610967nope. they have so many ways to defraud welfare that its a sad joke. there is nothing holding them back from working and receiving welfare, especially in the states that let them get away with murder.
>>522605755>1pbtid
>>522618237>being retarded
