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Will there ever be any true frontiers of exploration ever again? AI and latent space is the closest thing to such a concept we currently have. Space travel will always be heavily regulated and expensive. There's not more land or more Earth to explore like flat earth people say. Is this the end, the ceiling, of human frontiermanship?
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>>522606822
how can a god go exploring?
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>>522606822
>Space travel will always be heavily regulated and expensive
So was exploration by sea 600 years ago. There'll always be eras of frontier exploration, just not in this decade. But give it 20 years or more and you might see moon and mars colonies being established and potentially failing within our lifetimes. After that if any of us are lucky and survive long enough we may see the beginnings of humans fucking around in the atmosphere of venus. And that's just on our current linear technological progression. Who knows what the next 50 years holds in terms of spacetravel once hardware is outside earth's gravity well.
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>>522607193
We don't have the ability to pool the necessary resources to get humans to Venus, or to put boots on Mars. It's technologically possible, yeah. But not realistic given the way we act.
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getting a male under 32 to actually go out of the house and - gasp - talk to a girl is the new explorer
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>>522607193
>humans fucking around in the atmosphere of venus
This would be fun.
Especially given the latest findings that the clouds there are not pure sulphuric acid, but only 20% acid, and about 60% water (bound up in hydrated aerosols), with the rest various other junk
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>>522607346
Not really yet but a lot can change in a decade or two. 20 years ago you could have said the same about getting private hardware to orbit but now with rocketlab and spacex and blue origin even in raw dollars you've seen a slashing in the costs to get stuff to LEO or GTO all while streamlining the planning process. If you account for inflation the drop in cost looks even more impressive. I don't think I'm being naive here but then I try not to be too much of a pessimist either. Assuming we don't regulate the industry out of existence after some accident in the near future who knows where we could be in 20 or 30 or 50 years.
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>>522607193
You believe the ability to take to the skies will be as liberally accessible at dropping a boat in the water?
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>>522607696
As*
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>>522607584
Source
https://phys.org/news/2025-10-venus-clouds-reanalyzed.html
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>>522607696
You underrepresent the difficulty and resources required to build and man an ocean going exploration ship in the early days of the age of sail. Laying out a large enough ship to survive months crossing an ocean requires an investment in the same ballpark as modern day heavy lift rockets. The technology looks very different but the relative costs and organizational/resource acquisition requirements are more similar than you might think. You have to remember much of the difficulty these days is regulation related, and admittedly there is no historical analogue in terms of fucking off across a sea with a vessel. But the materials and construction requirements today have no constraints whereas in the past the forest land holding the high quality lumber you'd need to build a ship of that size, especially the most important parts, the masts, would be completely unattainable for people who aren't connected to the kings of the relevant countries or acting as a part of a project organized by royalty. All natural resources in a kingdom is property of the king afterall and theft or poaching was in almost all cases met with execution.
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>>522608192
>All natural resources in a kingdom is property of the king afterall and theft or poaching was in almost all cases met with execution.
Yeah people forget how tightly regulated life was in medieval europe
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>>522606822
theres an entire continent without permanent human settlement (antartica)
try to live a full human life there and claim it as your native land
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>>522608174
Interesting. Wouldn't be the first time a sampling snafu would give a probe wildly erroneous information on the composition of something on Venus.
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>>522606822
ships were always heavily regulated and expensive, yet people still saw them as symbols of freedom because they could make money with them and the sea is a big place.

In the distant future space may be the same way, like in Elite Dangerous. Spacecraft are expensive and heavily regulated, but space is unfathomably large. They cant watch everywhere.
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>>522608975
>sampling error while landing
kek



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