another jew/cia scam
>meanwhile
so glad my cost average is $2500 kek
>>522611543Hahah so how much did you lose anon?
what happens when there's too few bagholders?
Beside xmr crypto really is worthless, hence why they’ve tried to ban it
Money is a unit of account and it is almost always created by the State. I know that rubs people the wrong way, but it's reality. The State says this is the money and that's what the money is.
>>522611543LMAO
>>522611593kek
>>522611543It's already bounced back and is on its way to being worth a Lambo (Hurrican) by EOY.
>>522611543>6 millionth thread since BTCs inception
>>522611543keep going - hit 10k
kek, I heard even Blackrock doesn't want anything to do with Bitcoin anymore.
I didn't buy at 1¢, $1,000, or $7,000I'll be forever a retard. I was fully aware of BTC at each of these price levels with people telling me to buy it immediately at $1k and $7k
how many suicides this time?kind of sad desu, but so is buying shitcoins on margin.
just buy the dip.
>>522611543Why the fuck would you buy BTC at 100 fucking k?Are you a fucking retard?Bitcoin is useless because it can be traced.
>>522611818Yeah retards will blow their entire savings into a tech they don't understand solely due to hype.
>>522611543Ok but show the same graph with a Y-axis that goes to zero.
>>522612109Super villain investing has made me a mint. The general idea is:>what the system doesnt want you doing they must make you hate.>so they associate it with villains>then the normies avoid said investment>allowing the jews to reap the gainsInstead i see the villain investments and make the same moves and the jews follow after! Almost as good a strategy as Pelosi….
the stock market will be a bloodbath tomorrow
>>522611657 Based retard
>>522612493Goldfinger is coolI also like him because he was german, though
>>522612493What are your big plays at the moment?
>>522611543Zoom out
>>522612607His plan was semi-retarded but also semi-cool. They'd just make a new financial instrument for the radioactive gold and trade it via paper like they do these days anyways. However, a portion of the gold would've been vaporized by the bomb so some of it would've been lost, more or less, as fallout. Sure, they'd have recovered as much as possible by skimming the surrounding areas but it'd have been costly and retarded.So he gets half credit.His obsession with gold and hot women with comical names was based.
>>522611543Only a certifiable retard would think a speculative asset like shitcoin (that's literally nothing more than bits of info on a sever) is a "store of value." Stupid games, stupid prizes. But hey, you surely made some jew richer!
>>522611543Zoom out, Hector. The cycle ends this winter. You are a dumbass for buying any past like 75k this cycle if you weren't already rich. You bought the top.
>>522612045>The State says this is the money and that's what the money is.Until it isn't.
>>522611543Call me when it's back to 20k, and stop using leverage to buy shit that's volitile you degenerate gambler.
>>522611543Molded plywood mortgage goy boxes are up tho.
>>522612587i know. i should sell. but i only have 2 leftsold a bunch for a dodge charger in 20194dwhx
It's all scam pump and dumps. Your country was stolen by boomer jews. Kill boomers and kill jews if you want your money back. Straight up invade their homes, shoot them, gut 'em, take their fucking money.
>>522611593baste
>>522612755operation Grand slam was also a cool name
>>522612195I remember when it was $3 and being used almost exclusively to buy drugs online.
>>522611543this is why mexicans are poor lol
>>522614020>It's all scam pump and dumps.Correct. So use that to your advantage. There's a clear pattern to the pump and dumps, so you should be able to use that to make tons of money for yourself. There's simply no way we are getting rid of the jews or their financial system, so you might as well take advantage of it.
>>522611543buy the dip OP u pussy
>>522611543Fall another 87,000 dollars and Ill think about buying some
>>522612187Blackrock is the second largest holder of bitcoin you dumb fucking nigger.
>>522612886Real estate is never about the building. It’s about the land underneath
>>522611593how it will always be, too
>>522612246I bought at 60 and sold at 600.
>>522612755His plan (in the book) was to actually steal the gold which reviews pointed out would be impossible.The dirty bomb in Fort Knox was actually a pretty inspired update.
Silver is spiking right now.The difference between buttcoins and metals is metals are real, you can touch them. Buttcoins don't exist. You cannot touch them.
see you guys in 4 years
The worst part of this craze was how fucking corny it made everyone that put their fortunes on it, with their hoodies, white-sole tennis shoes, and their copy of the 48 Laws of Power or whatever in their bookcase. Good for them for succeeding if they did earn a lot of money, no envy here, but it really became corny when people treated it like a sure thing and it isn’t even used in everyday life. And when mining became cost-ineffective, the third-party exchanges started regulating its market, and it became an instrument of speculation for the very billionaires its creators sought to free people from, I know that was the final nail in the coffin.
>>522611543That was an obvious bull trap/pump and dump
>>522611543Bitcoin is literally the reason the internet is full of so many guru scammers. In the past scammers rarely became famous. Now the market is saturated with them and the fall of crypto will be the fall of the guru era
>>522614458It was so funny to watch this fat faggot take the piss out of these nerds at their own event, I forgot to post the link kekhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSF8nbmj2As
>>522612607>Ian Fleming's character Auric Goldfinger was inspired by the American gold tycoon Charles W. Engelhard.>Some of the similarities between Charles Engelhard and Auric Goldfinger:>Racehorse ownership. Like Engelhard, Auric was a major racehorse-owner.>Transporting gold. Both clandestinely transported gold about the world to avoid export restrictions.>Business in South Africa. Engelhard developed a business relationship with the Oppenheimer family there, which controlled the diamond industry (DeBeers). Through this relationship, he was able to hatch his most infamous scheme. He set up a company in South Africa that manufactured art objects from precious metals, and shipped them to Hong Kong, where the metals were melted down into bullion. This story lives on in Ian Fleming’s Goldfinger.Engelhard enjoyed the comparison and began calling the stewardess on his private jet, Pussy Gallore.
>>522611543>(((Buy the dip)))rip
Volatility is a GIFT to the faithful.
I'm actually writing a paper on Bitcoin, I'll just publish it on the internet at some point. I don't really care for faggot ass journals. The problem with Bitcoin is that its value is almost entirely speculative. It failed to achieve the level of real world adoption necessary to have any tangible value or to be a "store of value", and any tangible value it does have is greatly diminished by the immense centralisation of the network, as well as government control. Unfortunately, we'll see government introduce digital currency to go along with our digital IDs long before a meaningful successor to Bitcoin could, or is ever allowed to, succeed. Bitcoin isn't something you'll pass down to your children and grandchildren in 20, 30 or 40 years. It's impossible to predict exactly when, but one day it just won't be worth anything, reflecting its actual utility. Ultimately, ask yourself the question, what can you actually do with Bitcoin? And then ask yourself, for those things you can do with Bitcoin, how is it actually any different, in anno domini 2000+25, to paying through any other method?
>>522611543ahahahahahahahahashitcoin dies againwhere are all the idiot shills at?lmaoAHAHAHAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAi hope you "bought"lmao
>>522611543i mean it's been well established for a while that epstein is satoshi i don't know what y'all niggas expected
>>522614458>no envy here
>>522611543thanks trump
>>522614168I remember when it went to $1500 and thinking it was a bubble scam then.
>>522611543It does this every year at this point. Its people taking their profits out.
Yeah so with investment you do not lose money until you sell and with a 'store of value' you tend to keep it in that form years if not decades. If you cannot afford to keep your store of value, stored, then you do not have enough money to be using a store of value. OP gets dumber each day.
>>522614353I can spend them to touch your benchoid mother you dumb timmy i will rape your wife fucking blood bastard
>>522611593Gold is for staying out of the game
>>522614704Ten years ago some wag would comment on zerohedge to let him know when an alleyway hooker takes Bitcoin for a bj and until the it's worthless as a currency.
>>522611543Scam loot making a run for it. End of the day people own this shit and it exchanges for fiat
>>522614268Well, they were. But why do you think the current movements have been happening. Worlds greatest rugpull incoming.
>>522614965I unironically hope that Barron becomes president one day. He’s /ourguy/, with Chad potential. I can’t imagine the vile pit of snakes that poor boy had to grow up in
>>522611543>BITCOIN DIEED FOR THE 2000TH TIME GUYSLMAO kill yourself you had over 10 years to buy and be rich.YOU FUCKED UPKill yourself.
>>522611543>>522615231bitcoin has no value - an entire brokerage system was built around it but it just trades around with its retarded ledger system but not without insane amounts of processing and electricity required.It has absolutely zero monetary value other than greater fools. It leads speculative money so it might be the early indicator of a market crash
>>522614268how do you know which wallet is blackrocks? if i post my wallet would you know who i am and who ive sent bitcoin and grt to?
>>522615456> YOU FUCKED UPI don’t care about having any.
>>522612045Money must be a store of value. If foreign central banks don’t think your money has value then they dump it for gold, exactly as China is doing with the dollar.
>invested life savings at 110kkilling myself
>>522611543How exactly is BTC a storage of value? It has no value whatsoever the only value you get from it is for how much you can sell it for to the next guy it's a purely speculative asset that serves no practical purpose
sell your fucking coins coward, ill be holding and buying more and getting richer. I live like a god and you'll die poor because you had no faith in a sure thing.
>>522614458>And when mining became cost-ineffectiveThat doesn't make any sense. I completely agree on the stereotypes that goes to conferences though
>>522611543>sToRE oF vALUEAs a BTC investor (or should I say gambler), this shit always made me laugh. The othe big lie being "anonymous and decentralized". Sure on paper it can be but in practiced every transaction is being monitoried and 99.99% of people trading only trade through goverment licensed exchanges.Regardless, thanks to those lies, I've got a second source of income without having to work a second job. BTC is a gamble that you bet how many retards exist.
>>522615566I don't even believe you. There's no way you sat around watching bitcoin go up and up and down and up and down and up and up and up and then were like "ok this is it, if it can hit 110k it's going to the moon"There's no way. If you were a moonboy, you'd have been in since 20k.
>>522615587Bitcoin’s value is determined by supply and demand. Just like everything else, retard.
>>522612252When that shit hits 1$ again im all in broham
>>522615634> That doesn't make any sense. I mean for the normal guy, he’s not making a profit by buying a mining rig and getting to work anymore, because of how big the markets gotten and the accompanying GPU bubble
>>522615566>he bought at the top
>>522614704From the assumptions in your comment save yourself the time nobody would care to read it.
>>522612289a wallet can only be linked to you if you kyc
>>522615469>It has absolutely zero monetary value other than greater fools.Says the greatest fool who trades his time for paper with an infinite supply.
>>522611543l2trade
>>522615891What assumptions?
>>522611543
>>522611543>first bitcoin crash: down to ~3K>second bitcoin crash: down to ~20K>third bitcoin crashI mean, it sure sucks from those who buy high and sell low, but what can you do?
>>522611792that's when the real bagholding begins.just two more years of hodling.
This time period will be so confusing when they put it in the history books kekhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpR2kMxy7O8
>>522611593>WOW HEY GUYS, YOUR INVISIBLE DECENTRALIZED CURRENCY (that was meant to say fuck you to the system and the elites) JUST COLLAPSED>BUT LOOKIE HERE THIS PHYSICAL GOULD!!! WOW LOOK SHINNYYY >JUST LIKE THE WILD WEST >WOW WHAT A VERY HOARDABLE TRANSPORTABLE AND EASY TO GUARD FROM THEFT ASSET!!! Swear to fucking GOD, you Gold Niggers need to be rounded up and shot
>>522612289i lol'danon, if it's your meme, it should be *keep* , not keeping
>>522616144Your Keynesian delusions are collapsing in real time as gold pumps to the moon. Cry harder, faggot.
>>522614704>I'm actually writing a paper on BitcoinNobody cares about your dumb paper, faggot. Put your money where your mouth is and short it.
>>522615826They're mined with ASICs not GPUs for over 10 years now I home mine with a single chip (40 watts) to test software and look at autism numbers it's not profitable unless you scale it up into your HVAC system. There are a few HVAC projects selling their services but I wouldn't actually buy and install one quite yet. Economy of scale will win efficiency arguments anyway, but the idea of a self sovereign self governed unstoppable integrated in your damn walls system could happen for everyone living in the smart home future
>>522615558>>522615587Fiat money (whether public or private, crypto, etc.) only has value as an accounting of value. It is not a store of value. It is a tool, not a commodity, not a product/service. You gain no value from money itself, but what you can exchange it for. If people do not believe that they can exchange money for something, then, everything else being equal, money loses its value as an accounting of value.If people begin to believe that they can not effectively and efficiently exchange bitcoin, in some way, to gain something of value such as a commodity, product, service, etc. then it will lose value as an account of value.Currently, crypto currencies are denominated in fiat currencies (especially the USD), and they are typically exchanged into fiat to buy commodities, products and services. Crypto, hence, largely acquires most of value as an accounting of value from some perceived advantage it offers as a middle man. For example, lower foreign exchange costs or lower foreign fund transfer times, etc.Unfortunately, there is very few people that actually gain value from this specific function. The vast majority gain value from crypto by the belief they can buy crypto and then sell it at a higher price, ad infinitum. This places crypto in a highly speculative situation which may form a bubble.
>>522615985>failed, centralized, etc. It's the same shit we all read the last 15 years If you can't make good argument your paper is a waste of time.
>>522611593
>>522611543Bruh it's forex for tech bros, what did you expect?
All mainstream accepted currency is jewish and MammonWherever there’s money to be found, a jew will have his hands in it>he doesn’t barter goods and services outside of the Beast system economy
>>522616451Bitcoin is denominated in every currency, good, and service it trades against, same as any other currency. All currencies are units of account. If a currency can’t store value in the long run then it’s a bad currency. A Happy Meal cost $5 ten years ago and now it’s $15 because fiat is dog shit. This isn’t complicated.
>Bought at $3k, sold at $105kGet rekt geeks
>>522611543I bought at 26K. I'm sorry you bought at 126K.
>>522616451Commodities are exchanged to mine BTC when they can't be used locally. BTCs are exchanged to buy commodities they can't produce locally.It's not that hard of a concept.
>>522615558It doesn't really matter if China doesn't want to hold dollars. The end result of that is they don't want to buy things priced in dollars, which if you listen to some people, is currently the problem with China anyway! So, you can't have it both ways.
>>522616765China is happy to buy things priced in dollars, they just immediately want to dump those dollars for gold because the dollar is a bad store of value.
>>522611543It was a store of value You thought you were part of the rich? They'd tired your value until they wanted or needed it.You were the value stored and harvested.
>>522616816If China is buying things priced in dollars, then it doesn't really matter and none of what you are saying makes any sense.
>>522611818I genuinely think XMR is the next bitcoin right now. It has real use cases and utility on the deep web and is used for pretty much every black market transaction online, just like how bitcoin was at first.
>>522616824JP Morgan just announced new bonds backed by bitcoin. The implied expected value of the bitcoin is $250k by 2028. SoFi just released a new product that allows for cheap instant cross border native currency remittance payments powered by bitcoin lightning rails. The rich are buying the dip, dummy.
>>522616711Crypto currencies are only ever denominated in fiat currencies, especially USD. Fluctuations in the USD FX value influences the demand for bitcoin from foreign countries.> All currencies are units of account. If a currency can’t store valueYou almost had it. Currencies are units of account, that is where they derive their value, that is all they are. They do not, however, store value. > A Happy Meal cost $5 ten years ago and now it’s $15 because fiat is dog shit. This isn’t complicated.Inflation is a consequence of a fiat currency, but inflation alone does not mean it is not a currency.States largely chose to maintain fiat currencies because fiat currencies can more easily be expanded to fund militaries, natural disaster relief, stimulate economies, etc. Thus states and the elites that control them have decided that inflation is a necessary evil in order to have the flexibility that fiat offers.As long as you invest in things that generate income, rental real estate, stocks, etc. then inflation is a non-issue.
>>522616144
>>522611543>bitcoin PLUMMETS to $80,000zoom out, zoomer
>>522611818xmr or salvium which is a fork with cool features. btc is dead.
>>522616906Chinese companies sell goods and services to US companies and receive dollars. The Chinese companies then turn around and sell the dollars to China’s central bank for yuan. The Chinese central bank used to buy treasury bonds with the dollars but now they’re buying gold instead. They’re doing this because they don’t trust the dollar as a long term store of value. Get it?
>>522616761Mining companies can buy things like electricity, land, hardware, etc. to mine bitcoin. And they fund these exchanges by selling bitcoin to customers that are mostly speculators.The same thing has happened with countless other bubbles. Real exchanges can still happen from a bubble, even if those exchanges are used to produce ultimately valueless products.
>>522615763Supply has nothing to do with its value you fucking retard it's solely based on demand as I said based on how much you can sell it for to the next guy now neck yourself you fucking nigger
>>522611543if you HOLD it stores value, if you're retard that trade then it doesn't
>>522616991>As long as you invest in things that generate income, rental real estate, stocks, etc. then inflation is a non-issue.It’s a non-issue if you’re rich and can afford assets. Bitcoin, like gold, is one of those assets.
>>522617081Who cares what they trust or don't trust? If they are still sending goods and accepting dollars, nobody gives a shit if they hold them or not. Are you retarded or something? It doesn't matter one bit to the US if no one ever buys a Treasury bond again.
>>522617156All value is determined by supply and demand, dumbass.
>>522612195when it was $3/btc my boss offered to pay me half salary for next few months in btc. I told him no, my other coworkers agreed. they aren't working anymore :D
>>522617188Neither bitcoin nor gold generate income you dumb nigger
>>522611543Don't buy. HFSP.Panic selling? Great. Cheaper sats for me!
>>522617228No it isn't you stupid cunt
>>522617082Mining companies backstop the local energy grid making powerplants more profitable. More profitable powerplants means cheaper energy.Cheaper energy means more competitive manufacturing Local manufacturing and money creation is a solution to the triffin dilemma
>>522614576Fuck this fat faggot.
>>522617224>It doesn't matter one bit to the US if no one ever buys a Treasury bond again.It doesn’t matter if you’re rich and hold assets like gold and bitcoin. It matters greatly if you’re the working poor and have to watch your wages stagnate against ever rising prices of goods and services.
>>522617245Gold is outperforming all dividend stocks and bonds. Enjoy your dog shit returns, loser.
>>522612195I used to have so much but I would just forget the password lol
>>522611543>plebs celebrating those tiny moments where it appears to them they were right.see you at $1million soon, plebs.stay salty.buy bitcoin.
>>522617297Chill, it’s just a friendly bit of banter
>>522617375That's not true in the slightest you retard you can compare a stock like Nvidia which has gone up over 1200% in 5 years meanwhile gold has gone up 10% of that at 121% over the same period
>>522616963When I go and harvest animals I don't slaughter the entire herd.You leave some for next time.You are literally products planted to grow and harvested at convenience. God bless your sacrifice for the system would collapse without your ignorance.
>>522617409Thank you for Satoshi Nakamoto, takeshi.
>>522617236>I told him no, my other coworkers agreed. they aren't working anymore :DOooof. I'm sorry brother
bitcoin has died like 50 times already, every time r/buttcoin celebrates like they won but then it just goes back up again and they go back to coping.
>>522611543That.Is a very misleading chart.
>>522617188Stock and rental real estate is extremely widely owned, and stocks, especially are easy for even poor people to own.The S&P 500, the most basic stock investing vehicle, has outperformed goldhttps://curvo.eu/backtest/en/compare-indexes/gold-bullion-vs-sp-500?currency=eur
>>522611543Yessss, make spy go down, and I'll make a killing today lmao
>>522617473Bitcoin is up 100,000% over the last 12 years. Good for you if you bought Nvidia and good for everyone who bought bitcoin.
>>522611593>Suddenly illegal
>>522617292Increasing demand, increases prices. This makes energy less accessible to others.
BUYTHE.DIP.
>>522616963The rich are putting puts in on tariffs so they can turn every 20 cents into a dollar once they are slowly rolled backed or altered.Howard Lutnick has been banking off tariffs puts since January.Nike wants to import shoes.They pay the tariff and raise prices.To double dip they will sell the tariff (bond?) to a third party with the promise that if tariff refunds happen, they sold the rights.For every 1 dollar in tariffs taken, Howard Lutnick has paid 20 cents and stands to receive 80cents in profit per unit.No one knows how many puts he bought. No one knows when the tariffs will be rolled back (more). But no, the real rich folks don't do speculative trading on shit coins.Harvestable assets do. We use to have to let some do shit build up a small business for 5 years before you could harvest him and now it's 3 days of speculative trading.
>>522611543Futures are down.Wasn't crypto supposed to not be linked to the market?
>>522617577Over the last 25 years gold is up 1000% while the S&P 500 is up 400%. Picking arbitrary start dates is a stupid game. The question is where is the puck going next? Gold crushed stocks in 2024 and 2025. There’s no reason to believe that trend won’t continue in this stagflationary environment.
>>522617724No. That's marketing >>But something something something not linked to the market!!!!!Yes it is. You can literally see it is.
>>522611543Yeah no shit. Any investment like that is ungodly. You only serve to corrupt yourself stooping to their money lending ways.
>>522611543It is just good time to buy more, when they start using the printer again and they will 100% do everything will go to the moon
I hope it falls to 30 again. Sild sats and bought an expensive bike at 70. Want to sell that bike and buy back cheaper.
>>522617628Bitcoin mining is a put option on electricityEconomy of scale and predictable futures markets makes electricity cheaperThere's no demand to mine BTC at residential rates. A human will pay like 4x per kWh to watch slop than a BTC miner will pay to hash SHA-256 There's a scale of who will pay what BTC miner<commerical<residential<EV chargingIt's based on demand and economy of scale Jevon's paradox proves as energy gets cheaper more is produced Kardashev's civilization types are based off how many kWh a civilization can harness
>>522617786> Picking arbitrary start dates is a stupid game.We live and invest in arbitrary start dates. I just found a source that had a long window of time to get a good view.Meanwhile, gold has repeatedly enter booms and busts.The people who bought gold in the 1980's have only just now, in 2025, broken even. Gold bear markets typically last decades.
>>522618085We live in the now and right now I’m smoking you with my gold investment compared to your stock investment.
>>522618068A diamond does not have value because people mine them, people mine them because they have value.What resources a bitcoin miner uses is irrelevant to the value of bitcoin itself. The value of bitcoin is entirely subjective. Does bitcoin have value? Or is it primarily a speculative trade? Do people actually use cryptos as currency? How many exchanges in the real world are being done denominated only in bitcoin? The obvious answer is that cryptos have practically no penetration what-so-ever in the actual market for exchange purposes. This means they are entirely speculative.NFTs crashed, cryptos may crash as well. The chances of a crash are very heavily weighted against cryptos.
>>522618206Gold will go down, again.
>>522618285The world is stagnating because the world's superpower, the reserve currency, can't even balance a ledger.So now everyone on this planet can decide if having an incorruptible ledger is valuable or not, we'll see.
BTC is the real TKD.
>>522611543>what is yen carry trade>what is liquidation cascadeYou better pray Japan doesn't increase rates any higher. As for me I bought SLV and I'm buying the dip in BTC so I think I'll be okay.
>>522618285Diamond is a physical good and considered a luxury item. It's price exist in artificially but most diamond is used by dipshits like me on saw blades to cut masonry.What real world value does Bitcoin have? What physical existence does it possess?Can you explain to me why its different than a in-game currency like vbucks? I can use a third party market to exchange vbucks for us dollars.Is its only value to exist as digital dollar? Then why not just have a dollar.What I'm getting at is this so just gambling addiction for people who think casinos are beneath them.
Bitcoin is a speculative token which has some, but not a lot of use. The price of it is stupid and depends entirely on finding a greater fool that's willing to pay more. At some point you'll be the fool if you don't bag profits from the swings. You could also replace all of the use case for bitcoin with any other token.
>>522618422If the USA decided to retire the current USD and defaults on its debts, and then issues a new USD. Even in this situation, crypto will have very little use, because the infrastructure is not widely accessible, meaning, at best, only the USA and other very developed nations might have a chance to adopt it, the rest are too poor to even access the infrastructure, let alone build it. The developed countries, meanwhile, will have to deal with the high crypto fees, long wait times, lack of technical support, etc. It can take up to a day to make just one exchange with bitcoin.Additionally, crypto prevents states from printing to fund militaries, disaster relief, stimulus, etc. making the entire system a non-starter.In just about every way, fiat is superior.
>>522618616stableUSD, "vbucks", etc. are all controlled under a centralized party that can decide what to do with their network. Those things can inflate your value away, delete from your wallet for whatever reason, or even prevent you from spending it in the ways you want. The reason BTC is so unique is that there's no centralized authority. Sure some on/off ramps will use traditional finance KYC/AML but inside the BTC network you're free. Also are lab made diamonds strong enough for tipped blades? That would make more sense consuming the lab made ones instead of burning up one of nature's perfections.
>>522611593pepe coin will flip bitcoin it seems.
>>522618769>Additionally, crypto prevents states from printing to fund militariesyeah that's the plan along with defunding all the other nonsense
>>522618814What's stopping the government from banning. Bitcoin and making its own USD coin? Bitcoin can be centralized relatively easily.Yes lab made diamonds are almost 100% of the market when it comes to use cases like mine. The mined ones use is physical luxury, but prior to lab grown diamond shards and dust were used. They do have value beyond luxury in other industries other than mine. I am a retarded ex trade chicken farmer but I've heard of diamonds at the end of lasers and needed in several tools I use. They love to advertise that shit. "Diamond prism stabilizer!"But for all I know it's a gimmick and marketing. But I know for a fact my saw blades are diamond tipped and I use a shit load of cutting tools with diamond attached.
>>522618980And that's why crypto can't be adopted. It compromises the state's ability to protect its people and its economy.
>>522618980What stops the state from making its own coin and making Bitcoin transferable but otherwise worthless?Or someone from hording most the coins then dying thus erasing 50% of the bitcoin economy overnight?>>But my value go up!What happens when there is nothing to buy or sell because so much of the fluidity of market just disappears with no ability to fix it?
>>522617020oh shit look at that head and shoulders pattern ABANDON SHIP ABANDON SHIP ITS OVER
>>522611543>goyim bagholders BTFO yet again. Its honestly better this way. Stupid people don't deserve to have money. The world is in a better when they are all broke and destitute and desperate to work for peanuts.
>>522618561Just this once, I'm hoping the saar is right.
Monero is the final solution to the taxman question.
>>522619195Total Taxnig Death.
>>522611543What's the problem? 1BTC still = 1BTC . Why do you care about fiat being endlessly printed by jews and upheld by a jewish financial system??
>>522618986>What's stopping the government from banningCapital flight which BTC is the best tool for. Every traditional paper asset takes 1 click to wipe a user's funds. With self custody BTC the government would need strike teams to get user's funds. A couple high profile holders who aren't criminals getting wrecked would cause a lot of rich people to flee the country. It's a testy scenario I think about frequently. U.S. government doesn't want capital fight.An Ohio congressman proposed a bill last week to pay taxes in BTC that are guaranteed to go to the U.S. strategic BTC reserve.Playing ball with the network makes more sense for them than to attack it. If your BTCs are in an exchange or ETF though then that's relatively easy to steal, those users are in the same boat as the regular paper asset holders.
>>522618814Fuck man. I rememeber when these were 10$.Trump killed the trade industry by the way, not that it was doing to hot a anyway.
>>522619175It is. All the millions of posts kn 4chan and similar websites did nothing. 1 man sat in front of his computer in 2008 and proceeded to wipe out the kike empire with just code.Their main power is banking. When thT inevitably goes, every thing else kike controlled will fall too.
>>522611543>oh no it went down after going up!>who would've guessed it!
>>522619195States will just shift to taxing property and income streams that are easy to monitor. And states already have the right to "impute" (make educated guesses) how much income you are making and tax you based on that if there is evidence that you are a tax cheat.Meanwhile, China has already banned Monero and other cryptos. Making cryptos useless in China, because cryptos need exchange infrastructure to be useful at a wide scale.
>>522611543zoom out
>>522611543Fuck yeah, I've been waiting for the crash!I'm ready to buy now.
fell for it again award
>>522619064>It compromises the state's ability to protect its people and its economy.What if these abilities are deteriorating though? Could BTC be adopted then? >>522619069People leave when the government is hostile.NY did the bitlicense everyone moved to CACA did the gay covid shit and taxes so everyone moved to TN, TX, and FL The bitcoiners are high IQ gypsies Lost gold never destroyed the gold market. Serious holders also have estate plans.
>>522619480Cryptos only makes it worse. A state wants to make it easy to fund emergency efforts. Cryptos make this hard.
>>522619260Thank you for your perspective.
>>522619529>A state wants to make it easy to fund emergency efforts. Cryptos make this hard.covid
>>522619480It sounds like your just a financially prepper.......instead of buying canned food and guns your buying "assets" outside the "market".How do you leave if Bitcoin is no longer transferable to usd? Wouldn't usd still existing but Bitcoin being locked out from being transferable just destroy the coin?Ok government made Bitcoin non-transferable and illegal. Your in Wyoming. What now?How do you leave? Where do you go? What do you?How do you even pay for a plane ticket or anything if your locked out of your wealth?
I realized a long time ago that bitcoins cryptography was broken, back when coins moved from the satoshi wallet.It seems that other people have finally figured it out as well.Bottom line is: bitcoin is fundamentally no longer useful as a store of value, as the nation state or corporation that's breaking the cryptoography is now capable of simply taking your wallet.Should have used monero
>>522619260Hammer attacks are hilarious and will become more common place if Bitcoin does.You joke about the strike force but their is already a term for it and we are still in it's supposed infancy.
The people that invest in this shit will never change. They will keep believing that ethereum, chainlink, monero, doge, and bitcoin will moon to all time high by the end of the year, literally every fucking year until the day they die. If they just put their money in the s&p500 at least they would making a somewhat smart play.
>>522619285>pay me in jewels
>>522619701Wise words.Their going to fucking hate you.
>>522619765What does this mean?
>>522611543>pol fud thread>no talk of bond market shitting the bed>no talk about japan systemic collapseToday is a very important day in this century history the usa was forced to end QT and will have to choose to do YCC soon.Expect some shaking crypto shaking first is actually relatively good in this case.
>>522619739Of course, but the $5 wrench/hammer attack is a $10 attack now thanks to DRUMPF
>>522619701Bitcoin doesn’t use PQC. All currencies that don’t use it are going to be worthless in a few years, including Monero.
>>522619809that goofy rapper riffraff always says pay me in jewels and I thought about that diamond tipped blades outpacing "inflation" as a funny investment
>>522619649What about covid?
>>522619863Lol it's more like 65 anymore.You might be right. Eventually the wrench won't be worth the hammer attack.But I am a asset holder of physical hammers and wrenches so legacy investment vs current day value harvest.
It's worth nothing. If i were worth anything I would have got some when it was kicking off back in 2010 ish. It's not worth anything, digital bag holding is all. You guys knock yourselves out with that kek
>>522619927I'm sorry..I am a isolated chicken farmer who's main hobby is harassing Republicans. I don't know rap music beyond like run DMC and fallout boys.
>>522619946Should the state have the authority to easily fund and enforce bullshit like covid? Should they be allowed to double amount of currency in circulation over a virus created in a lab they funded to bail out repo markets (banks) Things are fucked I don't want them having that authority anymore.
>>522611543TBD
It's 2025. BTC has been up for 17 years. Legit anons on pol are probably some of the smartest well read and informed people online (terminally so). Whatever there ia to discuss about BTC has already been discussed all over the net and probably read up by the legit anons here. It can't even be newfags (can't be that many) who are still doubting BTC here. Ergo, it must be jidf kikes. Which means they are tasked with trying to take down BTC at every dip opportunity by their handlers (all the way up to banks). Which means BTC scares the kikes. Every BTC post here on pol should thus be taken as a bullish signal.
Uh, there's a limit of 21 million BitcoinOf course it will keep going up
>>522614268Not anymore amateur.
>>522612109What a different world. From the fake shutters to the garish clothes to the portable drink mixing table in the back.
if you didn't sell when it was over $100K, you're a fucking retard
>>522620148hell yeah, I wish they would have better arguments for better discussions
>>522620396There are 1000s of arguments all over the internet which the kikes can and will continue copy pasting on ool threads. All done and dusted arguments, btc is here to stay given the track record. It should now (it's 2025!) be obvious that every btc thread here on pol is kikes hyperventilating. Yeah, better posts about btc vis a vis kikes (how kikes try and cause wild up and down swings to help the fed and additional money printing) would be welcome. It's hard to even scroll these threads to find such comments, amidst a 100 "hahaha it's over" comments by lazy jidf kikes.
>>522611543>5% dropOH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD
>>522620225If BTC gets mined fully it will collapse. Because miners are important for keeping up BTC infrastructure.Imagine that if you get gold and mine it all from the ground you need to keep up empty mine running to trade gold. Sounds idiotic? This is how BTC works.
>>522616086https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUK8xml_9AA
>>522621255It's impossible to mine all 21 million, thoughThink about it in steps1. You mine half (10.5m)2. You mine another half (15.75m)3. You mine another half, etcNo matter how many times you reduce the number of coins by half, you can never mine them all
>>522611818Unfortunately I can't see crypto as anything but fiat and I can't think of any transactions I'd need it for.>>522612045I may not know a lot about crypto but I do know about our currency. Money is just whatever is accepted as payment for goods and services, currency specifically is fiat and based entirely on credit.>>522615558>If foreign central banks don’t think your money has value then they dump it for goldGold is for bear market shit when the central bank is offloading treasuries, it means no one is seriously investing in the nation so they're trying to stymie a complete loss along with QT. Gold is not inflation proof either though, it has use as a temporary store of value but only as long as your nation still stands, nations don't fall very easily so it's where central banks hedge. Goldfags don't realize that gold has only ever gone up in price because globohomo hedges gold against their own nation's reliability as a trade partner, pumping the price but keeping reserves. If nation's started trading in gold exclusively the price would bottom out because central banks would revalue both it and their debts anyway. In case you are wondering why USD became the world's reserve currency, it is partly because we had almost no gold reserves by the 70s and also because by using a credit-based currency we could hand out IOUs to foreign nations in exchange for investment, allowing us to take on retarded amounts of debt.>tl;dr - central banks a shit>>522617375Gold is a non-yielding asset, you're either a simple coiner or you've never played the market in your life.
>>522611818>>522612333>>522616913>>522617041Yeah lets's all buy an illegal asset banned from all major exchanges while its value solely depends on the current cash flow of the drug and child trade.I'm sure that's what intelligent people who make it do.
>>522621416You also cannot mine all the gold or coal moron. There will always be something left. But it will be so cost ineffective that noone will mine it. Noone will keep up infrastructure when it will cost more to mine that it will give back in returns. It is simple, but apparently yo uare too fucking stupid to get a grasp of reality. BTC is made to fail due to how its infrastructure works. It can only stay afloat when someone will keep up infrastructure, and the only ones who would be interested in it and would have money to keep it are actually big players, funds, banks or governments. Which would make BTC centralized. Which is completely anti-BTC.
>>522621255Yes, you're right. If only an inherent incentive would exist! Like, idk, we could call it a "miner's fee" perhaps? We could even.. make it so it's higher if there's a lot of transactions and lower if there's only a few, incentivising people to use the network in off-hours.
>>522611543Still not quite sure what good any of these pyramid schemes are when SHTF. Like, do cryptobros think I'm going to be hoping they have a electricity, and internet backbone, and a laptop? Nigger, I'm about to eat your fucking liver. I don't care how many pixels you stored away.At least paper currency is tangible and finite.
>>522621416Thats not how it works though. All BTC will be mined by 2140. Yes the last few bitcoin will take long time to be mined due to halvings, but it gets mined nonetheless
>>522621678Do you know "halving" even means?The last full Bitcoin cannot be fully minedMath says so
>>522621627Who will implement it and why? Oh wait. You want to centralize BTC. We already have centralized virtual money. It is called FIAT.
>>522617409How the hell do you expect me to buy it if the "dip" is still multiple K's?
>>522621776The last bitcoin sat will be mined in 2140. It is programmed, there is no opinion here. Halving means the block reward gets cut in half. By 2140 it will be all mined, the last block reward will not "half" the amount of whatever few sats that are left but give it out fully.
proof the universe revolves around me...if i buy or do nothing, it crabs or tanks. if i sell it moons. if i buy and hold just a little, it moons and i feel bad for not buying a lot. the world is just a figment of my imagination. it's there to trick me into thinking this is all real.>could've gone all in on silver or btc, but didn't>it goes up
>>522621902You can buy $100 worth even when it is in the millions.
>>522611543Good, learn what pain is really like and see how much you care. Keep the free fall going because the greeds been running unchecked.
>>522611543>another jew/cia scamLol last time I checked, Michael Saylor was neither Jewish nor CIA. Whay you need to do is stop listening to scammers and treating scam coin only as a speculative asset. HODLers are useful idiots
>>522611543I'm still all-in LINK. Fuddies get the rope.
>>522622161Saylor is CIA thoughHe's from a military family and got a ROTC scholarship to MIT (where CIA recruits) He went to school to be an air force pilot and due to an undisclosed illness that was actually misdiagnosed according to him he changed career paths to business intelligence I wouldn't trust Saylor lolHe will never donate to open source development or BTC's proliferation He only advertises transferring USD towards his companies that leverage buy BTC Bitcoin would be much stronger without Saylor
>>522611543finally
>>522621900It is already implemented you fuckwit. Always has been. This is the mechanic you can use to bid higher than others to make sure your tx is included in the next block. This will naturally via market pressures become more important as the mining reward diminishes over time.
>>522622005You are subject to general propaganda and a price curve optimized to psychologically entrap people. You think the big players just sit around and do nothing? They optimize their algorithms every day and collude in secret alliances to rip off the small "investors". You can do nothing against this but to buy when the public concluded "it's dead" and has moved on, while there are decent reasons for recovery (aka more cattle can fall for it when the price rises again, nothing else matters), and then sell when everyone talks about the change of paradigm again. You will not get the top by at least a factor of two, but the bottom is realistic to catch.
>>522611543I sold at $100k. Feeling good boys.
>>522620148>. Which means BTC scares the kikes.They are the ones buying it for pump and dumps.
>>5226115431btc = 1btc
>>522621776>>522622004even a jeet knows better than you lmao. I guess thats why USA has to import them, burgers have become tech illiterate
>>522623274= 0>>522614216Bullshit, cunt. The dirty jews are going to get themselves gassed fr fr
>>522614268>le epic defi face
>>522614704I can send money easy and fast without fucking myself in a bank
>>522612123>He doesn't knowIt dropped again
>>522611543You should have bought beanie babies instead
>>522616144i can gurantee you that gold makes better impression on women than your 0.1 of BTC
>>522623644At least you could have sold the beanie babies on ebay and recouped some of your loses.Bitcoin is going to zero one day.
>>522617409Oh wow a 10X return that's so rare, it's almost like there isn't contracts in that stock market that do such a thing on a daily basis.
>>522616013the problem with btc is that it runs out of use casesnow you've got apps that can convert any currency on the fly, all over the world, with very small fee. What's the point of btc when you have that? few years ago btc was any easy way to get money abroad, but what it's useful for now? Am I missing something?>inb4 muh gubimint spyingthe thing is that most people don't care about that
>>522616144Cryptofags btfo How much did watching gold go up from $1k to $4.5k make you want to kys as your tranny tokens dropped?
>>522616013You buy XMR vlad, are you retarded. The only crypto with value
"tether" will save them. Don't worry.
>>522623678you have to be irredeemably retarded to consider the thoughts/feelings of women in investment decisions or any decisions at all for that matter
