How is this possible?
Meanwhile in the US:
>>522617867Everyone is going to blame the ((BlackStone)) investors but they are less than 1% of new homes. Its actually all the influencer faggots who got rich during covid and decided to air bnb
>>522617867chink homes are made out of corn
They also reached zero covid infections too! Wow! China really is numbah wan!
>>522617867>>522617910National socialism. Aka no jews.
It’s actually really easy if you don’t have millions of parasites stealing your resources
The homes don't actually exist. It's a speculative bubble.
>>522617975corn, cardboard, whats the difference
>>522617867Chinks count the home of their parents as their home cause most of adult chinks live with their parents
China, as a government, does not view homes as an investment vehicle. Ideologically and as a matter of course it does see them as a potential stranded asset for connected landlords if there is "oversupply".
There are no jews in the 100 acre wood anon. Christopher Robin saw to that
>>522617975>cardboard and vinyl piggy is talking about the corncob filled concrete piggy
>>522617975They also don't actually own the homes. CCP owns the homes and sells 70-year leases. You or your kids repurchase that lease when it expires or just let the chink gov repo it. There's no generational wealth, just a long term rental contract with 2 payment options: lump sum or month to month.
>>522617867Declining population and overbuilding, if you build ~1.2 billion homes for a billion people with near 0 immigration than to get your money's worth everyone should 'own' one.
>>522617867>home OWNERSHIP>Communist Chinakek
>>522617867I'll be going there in January, I'll tell you how when I find out
>>522617910>Many vacant houses for sale>Nobody can afford themThe system is broken.
>>522618178I have bad news for you then fellow leaf
>>522617867fudging the numbers. owners of rotten tail houses still count.
>>522617867>How is this possible?They make up numbers
>>522617867>home ownership>chinatop kek, dept out the ass and you don't own the property itself
There are no Jews in China running the central bank or the big real-estate funds. No Fink, no Schwartz, no Goldman Sachs skimming 2-and-20 while turning your neighborhood into an Airbnb hedge-fund portfolio. That alone removes about 40% of the parasitic load that we carry in the West.
king and 10 free houses per white malewomen 0 money and force abortjew deadmik wop and other orc deportedflibe.com powers it allexpand barges and canals
China is still, at its core, a national-socialist state with Chinese characteristics. Private property exists only as long as it serves the nation and the race. The CCP can (and does) liquidate billionaire developers overnight, seize entire developments, finish “rotten-tail” projects with state money, and hand the keys to Han families. Try imagining Merrick Garland doing that to BlackRock’s single-family-home portfolio in Texas. Exactly.
70-year leases, not fee-simple ownership. Technically the state owns the land forever, but in practice the apartment is yours and your bloodline’s essentially in perpetuity as long as you’re Han and don’t make trouble. Compare that to America where you “own” a house but Zillow/BlackRock/iBuyers can bid 50% over asking in cash and you’re out, or you get taxed into penury if you try to pass it to your kids without a trust fund.
No Section 8, no HUD, no “diversity mandates,” no refugee resettlement NGOs paid per head to dump Somalis into your suburb. When China builds a new city district it is 99.9% Han Chinese. There is zero moral blackmail forcing them to import millions of military-age Africans and Arabs who will never assimilate and who hate the native population. That alone saves them hundreds of billions annually.
>>522617867u have to get out of silver in league of legends if u want ur house to be sold and to buy one.
Actual pro-natalist policy. Cash bonuses for babies, extended maternity leave, housing priority for married couples with children. Meanwhile our rulers pay childless cat ladies to import replacement populations.
>>522617867It's easy, you just make a huge concrete prison complex consisting of 1m^2 boxes and sell them for 200 dollars. Congratulations, you are now the proud homeowner of a closet!!
>>522617867Their "homes" are apartments inside commie blocks. Only the richest Chinese have "homes" as understood in the US.That said, that is still a lot better than not being able to afford anything at all so I graciously accept the L in the name of all Americans.
Massively overbuilt for a shrinking population, yes, but the overcapacity is in brand-new, modern high-rises, not 90% of which are already sold off-plan to Han Chinese citizens. The ghost cities of 2010 are today’s packed suburbs. Meanwhile in the West we refuse to build anything because “muh environment” and “muh property values” while we let in 3 million new arrivals every single year who all need a place to live.
1 race kingdom worksno jew or minorities if china closed its borders and put women in slave harems they would be come space empire
>>522618325They are the funniest race to observe
An ethno-nationalist, Jew-free, high-trust, high-IQ society that puts its own people first can solve the housing crisis in a single decade.Our society, captured by rootless cosmopolitan finance and suicidal universalism, cannot.
Breaking News: China lies.
>>522617867>sell people houses before they're built>100 gorillino home ownership!kill insectoids
It's possible by just changing the definition of "owning" to align with renting. Communist's favorite game is to have these insane conversations where they just change the definition of random words and then act like you're not educated on the matter because you didn't consult them on the updated terminology they just invented to win an argument.
>>522617867“Ownership” for some definition of it. The Chinese are house poor. They can’t invest in anything else.
jewless china > jewed usaI might moveI heard pussies are tight
The amount of cope in this thread is hilarious. No wonder this country is fucked.
>>522617930lmao at this kike
>>522618873its not just cope, its how willfully blind they are pretending property tax don't exist
>>522617867I bought all the houses so you spics have to pay me rent.
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>>522618178>There's no generational wealth, just a long term rental contract with 2 payment options: lump sum or month to month.dont pay youre property taxes once and see what happens
>>522617867Lmao. Rekt by chaina.
>>522618205>overbuildingproblem?oh nooo we have too much stuff, think of the investors!!!
>>522618325>heating a soda can on a stovelmao
>>522617910>repeat buyer age marginally much less than first timersGerontocracy
Meanwhile the average chinese """home""""
>>522617867> China> Home ownershipLol ok
>>522619142That's a great way to die slowly with all that mold
>>522617910How is the age of Black Rock represented on this graph?
When covid hit they went full retard and now there are claims that 500 million people died. They had satellite imagery of the crematoriums had full parking lots when never before.
>>522618983Chinese will keep dreaming.
America sends all that money to Israel instead
>>522619249It will be the new USSR. We'll find soon they were hiding all the failures. Instead of maintaining what they have, no, let's construct pointless crap and steal.
>>522617867They dont have laws preventing you building your house in empty land. They also dont need you to plumb in sewers or whatever. Life is just easier.
>>522619249>Source: Trust me brolmao
>>522619310You're comparing a tiny country with the entire USA? Fucking memeflags. Go back to redit.
easy china win, falun glowniggers enters the age of copium again, LMAO.
>>522617867Nobody owns a home in China. They state owns all property.
>>522618234home is personal property. Imagine citing marx without understanding him. Such a waste.
>>522617867Lmao at the mutts in this thread coping that too much housing is a bad thing. But it's true. Because chinese real estate is bad for storing and building wealth, investors have started buying up American and Canadian houses instead. Absolute gigakek. Mutts are letting China drive up their home prices because "houses are for investment or something"
I doubt those numbers are real. The average income to house cost is insanely high in China
>>522617867>build houses>sell said houseswow!
>>522617867China should sell usa portable, foldable homes and ship them to usa. Both countries would win
>>522617867It’s not possible to own land in china, you can only lease it for 100 years. New buildings will crumble and collapse in 1/4 of that time and be in disrepair within 5 years. Also homeless people are everywhere. 3 mega project bridges collapsed this year. Hong Kong didnt have fires of such magnitude until the CCP took over. Chinese people line up in the hundreds everyday at embassies trying to escape. China is such a shit show, sorry to burst anyones bubble, no where to run or hide for the middle class and lower, we need to fix our own countries.
>>522618178>They also don't actually own the homes. CCP owns the homes and sells 70-year leases.It seems that they took a lesson from Russia.We are stuck with ~25 000 decrepit khrushevkas and still have to tear them down and hand people apartments in new apartments.It the whole block is freed at the same time it becomes so much easier to tear it down.
I kneel
>>522620031Id happily live in that building as long as i have my gaming pc and heating which could be a coal fire for all i care.>Hunting for 3 days>chilling dor a week>hunting for 3 daysetc etc
>>522618537>>522618562>>522618605go live in China then. Oh right, you already did and left that shithole. Right chinky??
>Americans own 65& of homes.So Mossad has quite a way to go. The end is... not near. Capitaliism is mandated to continue? Dang, yo. I ain't do nothing so bad to deserve Judeo-Capitalism.
>>522617867>How is this possible?The Chinese government controls all its own banks. Our banks are private entities that seek profit above all else. That's why.
>>522617867This is the china shill equivalent of posting Zeihan’s youtube crop every time. Like same exact quotes too.
isnt it funny how it would be a crime for a chink to be here saying how great China is. Thats why all China shills are in foreign countries
>>522617867National Socialism.
>>522620546>Thats why all China shills are in foreign countriesChina cant post on 4chan so, you are wrong
>>522620623thats precisely my point, duh. Chinky, not very smart are you?
>>522618178>There's no generational wealthYou're conflating generational wealth with unearned rent.
>>522620653that was literally not your point tho, you know english or not?
>>522620659based
>>522620696Me:> how it would be a crime for a chink to be here saying how great China isYou:>China cant post on 4chan soMe:yeah thats why i saidchinky, try taking some english class before posting here
>>522617867Because they produce and use more concrete a year than the US for its entire history. Because they are a healthy socialist state in its peak, and the US is a capitalist state in its decay. Capitalism has a shelf life, its horrible at the start, the best in the middle, and self destructive at the end. Youre welcome
>>522620728>how it would be a crimeand what crime would that be?Fact is they cant post, not not allowed to post, understand the difference?
>>522620797They can post as easily as firing up a VPN.They dont because they dont want to be caught (its a crime).Dont pretend we dont see some china flag now and then here
>>522620852>They dont because they dont want to be caught (its a crime).No its not, 4chan isnt even blocked on the GFW. They cant post because of captcha. All China flag you see on here are shills because they own passes.
>>522620935maybe, doesnt change the fact China is a shithole. Thats why youre in Hong Kong making actual money
>>522621100>doesnt change the fact China is a shitholeHave you ever been here? I know the flight from Argentine is a long one.
A mortgage is not ownership.Property taxes still prevent ownership even after that.This is why western industry is a non-starter. Wages are ridiculous because most of it is taken away.
>>522619387You're missing the point. The country on the left is constantly sending money to the country on the right.
>>522621182I dont care what shills say, reality speaks for itself. And the reality is chinks are in every country setting up shop. In heavily increasing numbers. People with a good and healthy country dont move elsewhere, they stay right there
>>522620852>They can post as easily as firing up a VPNExcept pretty much all data center IPs are banned and you need to buy a pass to post with a VPN.
>>522620659if the fruits of one's labour truly belong to himself, he should be free to spend or share them as he sees fit (this includes inheritance)if they do not, then you are simply replacing the capitalist class with a bureaucrat class
>>522617867Evil communism....but still fuck China, because that shit is made at piss poor standards and tofu paper.
>>522617867Crazy what a country can do when it invests in its fucking people rather fucking Israel
>>522621269Only one way to find out, Argentina is on the list btw. Too bad you are probably too poor to travel.
>>522617867There is no private ownership of land in China, only a long lease of 70 years. All land is either owned by the state (urban areas) or by rural collectives (rural areas). Individuals can obtain long-term use rights to land, and they can own buildings constructed on that land, but they do not own the underlying property itself.
>>522617910>big jump in late 80s>2nd biggest jump was during Biden termWe made a mistake.
>>522619448>home is personal property.Personal property is stuff you can carry not land.
>>522621391as if i ever wanted to set foot in your 1.5 billion chink infested polluted shithole. Imagine thinking you can have a decent standard of living with such a huge amount of people . You probably rely on foreign trade just to sustain those population numbers
>>522617867Own your (speculative/incomplete) home now!
>>522617867No browns, no blacks
>>522619220Private equity only accounts for 3% of home ownership and it's mostly around cities. It really is just boomers refusing to sell below a million dollars because they bet on their home being their retirement.
>>522617867There's a Chinese girl in my house right nowcheckmate
>>522617867There is no such thing as home ownership in china. Everything is a lease from the government for 70 years.
>>522619083>Soda canDo you not have canned soup or something?
>>522617867>How is this possible?Lack of Jews.
>>522617867Population crash. Less people=more people housed.
>>522617930Private equity firms buy over 40% of single family homes.
>>522621669people own the homes. The CPC owns the land so they cannot take their homes. People pay no property/land tax.Now try to stop paying property tax in krautland and see what happens.>>522621470it is possible. They only need to print to about 88 trillion dollars. At 0.1% inflation it's kinda easy kek.Now your shithole cannot even print 2 dollars without being fucked by 50% inflation kek. Even Trump cannot print money despite the dollars being the reserve currency. SAD
>>522621755>Xi Jinping owns over billions in assets overseas>uses family members to hide illegal wealth>yay they get billionaires!It’s like the retard olympics. You mouth breathers will literally believe the show they’re putting on LMAO.
>>522621854>The CPC owns the land so they cannot take their homesSays who???
>>522620437I'm simply explaining why they have higher home ownership. My family came to SA as free settlers when SA was founded.
>>522621874>Xi needs moneylollmao evenjust for fun, name 1 asset Xi owns oversea.reminder, the following is real>>That day, he did not visit the village according to the scheduled route. Instead, he walked for a long time along a rugged path in the mountains. At the end of the path was a family with an old lady and her grandson. The house was black because the wood had been rained on for a long time. He walked into the house, and the accompanying officials began to look embarrassed. He took the old lady's hand and found two chairs and sat in a more spacious place in the house. He asked the villagers where they worked? How was their life guaranteed? How was their children's education? How was their income? He asked a lot of questions. Finally, the old lady asked, "What should I call you?" The accompanying official immediately said, "He is the general secretary of the Central Committee." He looked at the old lady's puzzled expression, smiled, took her hand and said, "I am just a servant of the people." 那一天,他没有按照预定的路线去走访村子。而是顺着山里的一条崎岖小路,走了好久。小路的尽头是一户人家,家里只有一个老太太和她的孙子。房子呈现出木头被雨水淋过很久的黑色。他走进房子,随行的官员面色开始变得窘迫。他拉着老太太的手找了两个椅子,坐在房子里较为宽敞的地方。他问村里的人去哪里工作了?生活怎么保障?孩子的教育怎么样?收入情况怎么样?他问了很多很多。最后,老太太问:“我该怎么称呼你呢?”随行的官员立马说:“这是中央的总书记。”他看着老太太疑惑的神情,又笑着牵起她的手说:“我只是人民的勤务员。
>>522617910>"50 year/generational mortgage will fix this!">house's foundation rated for 30 years>built by mexican/indian rated for 10welp, at least most of us will live long enough to watch social security's ponzi scheme get rugged
>>522621936No, they have “”””higher ownership” rates because they pre sell homes long before they’re completed. So pre sell= owned, according to China data.
>>522621423Anon, these are average ages year-over-year separated into 3 categories of buyer... A "jump" in this graph is a bad thing, it means people are having to wait until they're older to buy or repeat buy.
>>522617867 Government tries to a reasonable degree to help the people. Not bleed it for every penny, or drop of blood. Not perfectly, but atleast they seem to try
>>522621965https://qz.com/653836/chinas-elite-including-xi-jinping-are-linked-to-offshore-deals-that-hid-millions-of-dollarsJust one example.
>>522621905say reality and Chinese lawsPicrel is Shanghai
>>522622050>le chinese lawsAnd what? You’re assuming something would be done about it? Like what? What are they gonna do if local government officials decide to seize the house??? Take them to court? LMAO.
>>522621976>they pre sell homes long before they’re completedSo? You still own it.
A house is technically a depreciating asset. When it ages, its maintenance cost skyrocket. Plumbing, electrical, tap water, roof, walls etc will all start degrading and break down with time. They require expensive renovation and repair to fix. In Japan, there are a lot of houses sold at $0 called akiya house, but not many bought them anyway because the taxes, renovation, repair and other cost far outweigh their actual value. It doesn't make sense to me why in places like America, house are so expensive and are treated as some sort of investment
>>522622091>>522621557No wonder China has so many fucking suckers for a lifetime.
>>522622037so it's millions now. kekwhat's next? Thousands of dollars? ahaha>Xi's brother-in-lawkekDid you know that his wife was his sugar mommy before he got real power? Her family is loaded. Xi is God. God doesn't need money. He gets what he wants.
>>522622164LMAOOOOO.Okay fine, but if you’re gonna just REMOVE the goalpost entirely, at least eat my dick AND balls, disingenuous faggot.
>>522622083yea totally. Shanghai, the most important city in the world, just lets a bum built a house in the middle of the road at city center because they like it!and yes they can take them to court. The kind of court that is not corrupted by wealth.now KNEEL
>>522621854>The CPC owns the land so they cannot take their homes.They can demolish them whenever they please. There are countless of documented cases online.
>>522618178niggers thinking homes should be an investment are the entire problem in the westfaggots like you who talk shit like this don't realise that it's completely impossible to maintain a society where house prices outgrow incomes forever Grow a pair of balls and invest in a real business you fucking parasite
>>522622237Quick question, what did the courts do about the millions of people without homes right now when Evergrande went under? This is a crisis that’s been happening for years. Millions of dogshit incomplete homes and the courts are still twiddling their thumbs 10+ years later? LMAO.
>>522622209i didn't remove anything. You moved the goalpost from billions to millions and it was not even Xi's property. Fuck you faggot. Post a single property that Xi owns oversea or neck yourself.
>>522622299>NOO IT DOESNT COUNTremember to lick the shaft while you’re doing there sucking my balls, faggot.
>>522622117> confusing ownership and right-of-useYikes. Is this the fruit of 250 years of Jewish capitalism?
>>522617867So they count the mud huts in which 200 million people live in homeownership?
>>522622290why the fuck would they do about it? Those fags already had a home. They bought more to """""invest.""""" Xi said fuck you houses are for living in not for speculation. It was Xi that forbade Evergrande to get more loans. Why the fuck would he revert his correct policy?
>>522622344>I can’t readI’m aware, you stupid fuck.
>>522622321chop it off and ill consider it. You know a lot about cocksucking, fag.
>>522622375>REEEEEWell honestly I’m just glad a shill can clearly tell us how useless laws and courts really are in an authoritarian shithole.
>>522617867No one in China owns a home. After 70 years the property goes back to the government even if the property is sold to someone else.
>>522621874>>Xi Jinping owns over billions in assets overseas>>uses family members to hide illegal wealth>>yay they get billionaires!Yeah, what a shame Xi and friend cant do it on board daylight and then brag about in on national TV, what a shameful dispray!
>>522622417You gotta go back to your shittok sisters and get better beijing talking points, faggot, I’m bored.
>>522617867>china>ownership you will own nothing a be happy
>>522617867Central planning and socialism.
>>522622443>muh whataboutLMAO. Here you go. The Whatabout Commie Stamp.
>>522622418>investments are now guaranteed by laws.says who? The US is a shithole petrol state and based China is ending that too. ahahahaEnjoy the gee dee pee with 60% tips and 200% inflation kek>>522622417
>>522621669There hasn't been a single lease rollover in all of China, why do people on here pretend like they know how it works? The common assumption is that it will get renewed for a small feeWhich is what you see happen all over the planet with leasehold
>>522622499>schizo rantSomeone get their cheerleader, they mixed their generic beijing dick riding shill talking points.
>>522622450I am still waiting for the proof that Xi has single dollar in foreign asset/account. Even the Panama paper did not have dirt on him kek
>>522618178This would cost less than car payments if implemented. Not allowed because homes are a vehicle for parasites to make money, not for citizens to live, like everything in U.S.
>>522622487>whataboutNothing wrong with whataboutism when you claim exceptionalism
>>522622560
>>522622578You don’t even know what the original point was, dumb cheerleader. You saw your fantasy daddy getting shit talked online and you acted accordingly.
>>522622594even the spooks admired Xi and said he was "incorruptible." No wonder the CIA and the US got fucked with espionage. The competent agents have all defected after seeing Xisus. Xi is God.
>>522618178You won't pay lease. You pay a one time fee to renew the lease. The lease is free, the one time fee is like a few hundred yuan.
>>522618178> confusing land with real estateYikes. Finance and law sounds like hard work, you goys should just let the Jews handle the difficult questions.
>>522622630>You don’t even know what the original point waswhats next you gonna post Xi's "daughter"?
>>522622345Yeah, the statistic is bullshit, and I don't even think the official Chinese sources would peddle such a number, because nobody could believe it in China.Regular people are having trouble getting by just like in the US. There's simply not enough housing where the work is, and a lot of the "housing" people own in name is just an investment stake in a deliberately unfinished building. The global economy is fucked. >>522622435In practice, the government isn't too strict on takkng back property and the eminent domain can be softer than the West. It's actually one of the reasons China has so many abandoned buildings and "ghost cities," albeit it's a complex thing. Some rural peasant or his descendents will own a property and sit on it for a government/developer buyout as a region develops. I don't think the government could feasibly throw people off their property even if it wanted to, costly and bad for the economy.
>>522622667>incorruptible>>522622594
even Xi's enemy kneeled before his virtues.That was 15 years ago. The rest is history.
>>522622708>oh yeah? [strawman]But now that you brought her up, where is she and how is she living?
>>522622748>>522622721
>>522621874uh have you ever looked at American politicians???
>>522622721>>522622748only jews or sea slurping pedos would oppose Xi after wikileak. Just neck yourself.
>>522622790>>522622487
>>522622750according some of you, apparently she lives in the US. You have no evidence of that obviously, such is very common with you people
>>522617867How?controlled assets unlike the west, they just let the (((market))) decide, a market that rigged with banks, interests, and corrupt gov.All you have to do is make it a depreciated asset like cars, it's not an investment anymore rather than a fucking house to live in. But when you have countries like canada where realestate is the number one pillar in its fake economy since they produce nothing of value, they will rather charge your with terrorism than implementing such thing
>>522622806>only [sheep] disagree with [propaganda]I agree, keep sucking my dick tho.>>522622814Ok, so where is she? You got beijing talking points, you should know?
>>522622748and now, look at Xi's effort.Even with Jewish brainwashing, China influence has grown.
>>522622814they don't even know what she looks like lmao
>>522622851>Ok, so where is she? You got beijing talking points, you should know?Im not making the claims tho. You are however making this claim>>522621874 with nothing to show for
>>522617867Really, though, how is this possible? If you have a family of 4, the family owns 4 homes? That's pretty impressive!
>>522622748This.I was ambivalent before, but the more leaks I read about Xi, the more he seems like a man who is just very angry about Jews and try to fix that. All the hate he gets from the western media and liberal influencers and Chinese lib papers like Caixin the more it makes sense.
>>522622895>>522622037This is basic billionaire asset hiding tactics. Of course, when its CCP officials its “not the same” LMAO.
>>522622748>15 years later>almost total dominationLord Xi...
>>522622809 y o ja r e c o p i n g
>>522622895Also, damn, all those talking points and you don’t know? Does China NOT know?
>>522622918He's a very sensible man. Much like many strong leaders on history he just wants to do something good for his country and be in the history books. He wants to be remembered as the man who unified China with Taiwan. A most noble goal (assuming Taiwan's consent is optional).
>>522622927>basic billionaire asset hiding tacticslmao like you would know
>>522617867Because it’s fake. They can say what they want. Who’s going to stop them?
>>522622970>ITS NOT THE SAMEHow is it not?
>>522622553A lease isn’t ownership. This is not just semantics to me. And the system was introduced in the 70s, so we don’t know yet what happens when the leases expire.
>>522622935I’m not the one spamming >LE NUMBERS GRAPHS GOES UP>MY LORD XIThrough the thread lil bro
>>522618325>open up door to void>just back into it with some big and heavy drawersWhat was even the plan there?Some others are retarded too, but this is basically suicide.
>>522618983A child whipped into reciting state propaganda. Real wholesome.
>>522618325Elevators are to chinks what trains are to jeets.
>>522618325Half of these are just retards winning the Darwin award
>>522623116better than being raped and made into kebabs kek.
>>522623045>27 pbtid>im not the one spammingFUKING KEK
>>52261786796% home ownership < the homes in question
>>522623439>i’m a disingenuous faggotRefer to
They don't import millions of blacks and browns that drain money from them and their politicians get the death penalty if they scam. In USA they import millions of blacks and browns to vote D for gibs and over half of the politicians are scamming taxpayers every year with NGO scams.
>>522623498>>522622594
>>522623518>29 pbtidkeep those numbers up, FUKING KEK
>>522623444>look a rape-free zone. That's racist!
>>522618178>Umm you see the shit that makes living in the west unaffordable? China actively working against the housing market being used to generate profit is actually a huge problem goyjust kill yourself already
>>522623542Literally, but you just need to say legitimate marriage / families instead of the casino version modern culture boasts.
>>522623541I’m working at home here, this is free entertainment.
>>522623542wow. those houses look like palaces. how much do they cost to rent?
>>522617867
>>522617867China doesn't have "ownership", like much of the West. I'd call it privileged government rentals. Speaking of which, Germany is in the low 40s now.
>>522623668about 2 kebabs of english roses a month
>Ownership>Chinalol
Westernoids will cope and seethe forever as jews suck their blood instead of trying to solve the problem. Truly a race of goycattle
>>522618325>Checking how much it costs to build a new house in germany>the average cost is around 500k eurosYou will "own" your home when you're around 70 years old, Achmed. Only to then use it as an asset to rent, or when you've already croaked, your children will use it to generate profit, feeding into the cycle of unaffordable housing
>>522619210Might not be mold, could just be black smudges from constantly touching the walls
>>522623905That's mold.
>>522621874It's actually insane how corrupt China is. It is estimated something like 90% of all wealth in China is owned by around 100 CCP members.To put that into comparison, the top 1% of people in America only own around 31% of the wealth.
>>522618284Don't worry, Larry Fink and asset managers will buy up all those homes young people are supposed to be having kids in
>>522624080You're making shit up mutt
>>522621976Holy fuck. You're right.Those pre-sold units aren’t “future homes that will definitely be built”; they’re IOUs from bankrupt developers. Tens of millions of Chinese “homeowners” are paying mortgages on concrete skeletons that will never be finished.China’s 90+% “ownership” is just creative accounting on top of the biggest property scam in history. Wowzers.
>>522624170Yeah I am sure corrupt government officials are going to declare the rooms full of bribes they've got and the piles and gold bars they own. I am sure these stats accurately reflect this.Hell, the average Chinese person doesn't even know Xi Jinping is a multibillionaire with many other billionaires in his close friends and family.
>>522624239>Muttoid bitching the leader of a country is a billionaire when the leader of his country is fucking TrumpI trust official data more than your schizo babble mutt
>>5226242152013 called. it wants its anti-China cope back.All of those "ghost cities" documentaries turned out to be bullshit.The homes were finished and now they're thriving metropoli. Did you know that China has 140 cities with a population of 1M+ people?
What 96% home ownership looks like
>>522617867cheap apartment blocks ez
>>522624311 Xi Jinping has never done anything but work for the CCP. His official wealth is and always has been exactly $1 million, whenever asked this is always the answer given.Trump at least was a business man and made his wealth long before getting into politics.I bet you're the same sort of retard who thinks Putin is a simple, humble leader on a salary of $100,000 a year who lives in a single bedroom flat just outside of Moscow. Despite him wearing a different $10,000 suit everyday and being pictures wearing something like 80 watches with a value of $10,000 to $2 million each.
>>522623627>admitting to spammingLMAO, thanks for your concession.
>>522624331Nigger, 2013 called, it wants its old talking point back. Ghost cities and empty villages have actually been growingZ even cities are having trouble getting a decent residency rate.https://www.newsweek.com/what-happened-china-ghost-cities-2047985And considering that China’s biggest real estate companies are either bankrupt or subsidized as a zombie company so I have no idea where these “expansions” are happening outside your dreams.
>>522624521See you next thread lmao.
>>522624505Kek trump derangment syndrome in full display. Meanwhile Xi is a chemical engineer that was forced to work in youth camps.
>>522624609yeah, another thread to own your ass again. LMAO
>>522624634>LE OWWWWWWWWWWWNPlease refer to>>522622594
>>522624630Xi is borderline retarded, was born a princeling and never did a day or hard work in his life. He didn't even finish school.Rumors are he can't even read or write and if you know anything about Chinese, he doesn't speak very well either. He sounds kind of like George W Bush but flubs his words way more often ("they never stop thinking of new ways to harm our people and our country, and neither do we").
>>522622692What happens if you want to move and upsize your house?
>>522624630>engineerXi never had a fucking GED let a lone a degree legitimately. During his youth, school education was hard to find as a family member of an ex CCP pariah. You’d know this if you actually knew anything about Xi.
>>522617867They're lying.Stupid.
>>522624719>pure copiumAHAHAHAHAHAHA, called you out as spammer in my initial post and you just admitted that you are, thanks for playing noobers.
>>522617929why cut out the location you fucking nigger?
>>522624819>>522624719I’m getting so much mileage out of this.
>>522619583Trump does the same retarded fist. Someone needs to explain to these geezer boomers than exposing the underside of the wrist is a submissive gesture. Makes one think they're signaling to the World Jew Congress.
>>522624841because cope the only thing you can do, kek.
chink home "ownership" is basically the same as renting
>>522624896>>522623627
>>522624971https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8MZBUoQt68
>>522617867"Houses are for living in" - Xi chingchong
>>522623045no idea what you're talking aboutbut you've made 36 posts just itt
>>522618178>There's no generational wealthHOUSESAREFORLIVINGINThe idea that homes are for 'generational wealth' is shit thought up by faggot boomers who lacked the ability to make anything that actually works to produce generation wealth (thriving small-med businesses) and instead decided to parasitically jew the fuck out of their kids and grandkids through manufactured supply shortages on necessities.
>>522617867They have a government who puts the people ahead of business owners and financial markets and also it helps that western corporation sent all of their manufacturing there.
>>522617867>did nothing again>won, again
Doesn't the state own all the land in China? Chinks don't actually own their homes, they lease them for long periods of time. Technically no different I guess but not true "ownership."
>>522625122>raised by a single mother sad sackHave to hate your ancestors, can't be the SIX BILLION four-fold increase in world population since boomers were born. The problem has always been the Bantu breeding model of mate first and trying to sort resources later.
>>522625287>>raised by a single mother sad sackThe fuck are you babbling about muttoid retardGo get a job
>>522617867Home (PPP)
>>522625287Come on Oceania, are you even trying?
>>522618551>Their "homes" are apartments inside commie blocks.american "homes" are some cardboard and sticks shit we gift to gypsies for free to move them out of literal cardboard in landfills
>>522617867China built a lot of really shitty commie apartment buildings. They should come and build some here, as a show of friendship. Though their construction companies will have to actually learn how to build them foronce. None of these houses meet minimum safety standards. The building that caught fire in HK survived the fire, mainland buildings would have collapsed and killed thousands. The HK building was made under British law and authority and ruined with corrupt grift.
>>522625406I'm surprised you "know" this, but American wood houses are just as sturdy as your soulless concrete ones.
>>522625344I'm descended from an unbroken line of no divorce, few children, stable families that actually gave inheritance. This makes me value my ancestors and lineage. Your whore mother broke up generational wealth to fuck abbos and now you hate the entire age group.
>>522618178Their monthly “rent” is $80
>>522625483>American wood houses are just as sturdy as your soulless concrete ones.are you for fucking real? wood as strong as reinforced concrete?>soullessbecause sticks have soul or some shit
>>522624770Cope
>>522625443>The building that caught fire in HK survived the fire, mainland buildings would have collapsed and killed thousands. The HK building was made under British law and authority and ruined with corrupt grift.Actually those buildings were so old and have no refuge storey level, contributed biggly to more death, not to mention the use of shitty bamboo scaffolding.
>>522625556Yeah, and they last just as long. The Eurotrash brain doesn't comprehend the composite wall.
>>522625568>being a princeling son of mao's best friend is irrelevantmongoloid
>>522625599Those buildings are still standing. If a mainland building caught fire like that it would have demolished itself. Mainland concrete quality is shit.
>>522625556>are you for fucking real? wood as strong as reinforced concrete?You mean grout covered styrofoam. Ever heard the term tofu dreg?
>>522625651Don't make me laugh mutt all your presidents are rich fuck aristocracy without degrees
>>522625712Some of our wood houses can withstand the force of a category 5 hurricane. We have those, Kraut.
>>522625661whatever help you sleep at night mutt
>>522625763LOL
>>522625636>Yeah, and they last just as long.no they don't cause they're meant to be torn down in 30 years>The Eurotrash brain doesn't comprehend the composite wall.no I don't it sounds very homosexual and jewish>>522625712>You mean grout covered styrofoamhans you literally invented this method of insulation>>522625816KEK
>>522625766People broke the law and added things that weren't in the original design/failed to maintain the structure and that happened. Those British made concrete buildings are tough.
There is NO FUCKING WAY 65% of Americans own their own home. EVERYONE is renting and only like 20% own a home. I can see it with my own eyes.
>>522625758Right, that Georgia peanut farmer nuclear engineer and that white trash Arkansas Rhodes Scholar were being groomed from D.C. as children. Stupid bootlicker.
>>522625816>We have wooden houses designed to withstand a cat 5 hurricaneAnd that's not one of them. Is it hard being retarded?
>>522624833No matter where it's located, a small shit shack like that shouldn't fucking cost 1.3 mil USD. Get real. 300k at max.
>>522617867>How is this possible?A lot of the houses are unoccupiable, hence why 40% of Chinese in cities rent despite 'owning' a house. The expectation was they'd always find someone to buy it, now it's that when the lease from the government expires the government will pay them out (which is their obligation) but given that most those properties are probably going to collapse within a few decades it's more feasible they get bought out sooner, which is just more bullshit debt for their government to manage.
>>522618178I'm glad someone posted this. There isn't really any concept of private wealth in China. Everything is tied to CCP investment. You try to take your money out of the country, you can't. You try to sell your business, you can't. Your wealth is all on paper and is tied to your loyalty to the CCP. Obviously the west is heading in the same direction but it's nowhere near as bad yet.
>>522620659If I had to repurchase my parents house when they died I would never be able to as it is now worth $6 million instead of the $500,000 they paid for it 30 years ago. I will not be renting it out, I simply want to live in the house I grew up in
Stage 1:denial >>522618178 >>522618234Stage 2:Anger >>522621557Stage 3:Bargaining >>522625443Stage 4:Depression (pre-existing and self evident)It's time for acceptance, anon.
>>522625972Chinese are all slaves in denial
>>522626007t. Proud 50 year mortgage owner
>>522625995If your government controls where you work, how many hours you work, what you earn, what you can spend your money on, guess what. You're a slave! This is no different from slavery. The Chinaman is a slave.
>>522618234>situation in the US is worse than in Communist China!>lmao pwned!
>>522625981My parents bought the first house I lived in for $35k in 1987, that same house with some Joanna Gaines vomit on it sold for $488,000 in 2021
>>522623000How do you actually own it when eminent domain exists? There's hundreds of photos of stubborn old Chinese refusing to sell to the government so they just built roads around their house.In the west they'd just take it and never let that happen so clearly something doesn't line up with the /pol/ narrative
>>522625763I was talking about china you stupid american. Or is tofu-dreg an US-american word?>>522625879Yes, we use insulation, but the chinese build entire multi-story buildings from it. That’s why theirs collapse within a decade and i live in a house from 1800.
>>522626191>There's hundreds of photos of stubborn old Chinese refusing to sell to the government so they just built roads around their house.That's not because the government can't force the sale, it's because the seller was a hold out hoping for an offer greater than the inconvenience of building around them. It's the same reason you'll notice they always build right to the section and usually quite tall to make the property as worthless as possible in retaliation. https://www.tsinghuachinalawreview.law.tsinghua.edu.cn/UploadFiles/2022-11-18/s3ran9nk2qdhm7ch.pdf?Ni4gVENMUl8xMjAxX1RhZ2hkaXJpLnBkZg==
>>522625568>7 full years of formal education>has a gazillion degrees>half of them in le “””marxism””” politicsRight, it’s woke if it’s western, “its not the same” if it’s CCP LMAO.
>>522626192>the chinese build entire multi-story buildings from it.made it the fuck up>That’s why theirs collapse within a decadeit would collapse within minutes not decades if it was styrofoam
>>522617867I own a paper house and Lego blocks too!
>>522624418Yeah he'd totally be better off homeless and addicted to fentanyl lol.
>>522626472>it would collapse within minutes not decades if it was styrofoamActually quite a lot of concrete actually is lined with styrofoam, it's a not very safe but effective insulator. https://www.epstec.com/polystyrene-concrete-slab/
>>522626539>he'd totally be better off homeless and addicted to fentanyl lol.He's halfway there.
>>522626191Evidence of the government harassing people by building highways around their home is somehow a good thing.How can you share such images and say, "look, china is so wonderful!"?You can’t seriously compare living conditions in china with Germany, picrel.
>>522626568so what the fuck do you do with those? looking at it and trying to figure it out but I cantis it some sort of prefab slab form material like this stuff I am literally standing on right now
>>522626472You clearly know nothing about china lol. Their constriction quality is trash. Everything falls apart immediately, often even before people move in.
>>522618178Top bants cunt wumaos got wumad.
>>522617867Commie blocks made out of paper and tofu dreg reinforced with paper and chinesium , better than being homeless I guess.That or just plain old fashioned lying.
>>522626858>so what the fuck do you do with those?Connect the blocks then pour cement onto it. Fills in and covers. Dodgy builders in China have been caught (and also gotten away) with using styrofoam trash in place of these blocks. So waste styrofoam just crushed into the cement.
>>522626568Polystyrene concrete slab are a lot different than corn cob construction of China.
>>522621587Why are you defending them? They should be KOS on principle.
>>522625250There's nothing wrong with social housing, it beats having capitalists buying up all of the housing and then driving rent prices to the moon through uncontrolled mass immigration.
>>522617867none of those giveaway free apartments belong to the people living in them, they belong to the state who can take them back any time the person insent dissentswe saw this during covid, 'get vaccinated or you will be evicted'
REEEEEE ITS FAKE FAKE FAAAAAAAKETHIS BUT UNIRONICALLY REEEEEEE
>>522627033Oh right. Say, you’re from some european country according to your flag, do sand niggers and pajeets not live in socialized houses?
>>522627033>There's nothing wrong with social housingThere's a lot wrong with state housing, you and the Americans do it the worst.
>>522626191>>522626333Nail houses are a thing of the past, It was only 4 year period that China was changing property laws and wasn't sure what to do. Today China owns all land and can break land leases at anytime without compensation.
>>522625541And how much is that out of the median income.>>522624895It's also done in a fist , not in a "bracing for impact" way.
>>522617867>How is this possible?When the government controls the statistics anything is possible.
>>522627092it's because white people don't want to live in them, and they're so cheap niggers can afford to move in, and with niggers comes gangs, drugs, and crime
>>522627081Yes they do but my point there's nothing wrong with it if you have a government like China that isn't flooding their own country with mass immigration so that corporations have cheap labour.
>>522617867>>522617910>>522617929>>522624331>How is this possible?If you have plummeting housing markets and 1+ billion excess homes, it is. And that's funnily enough the other half of the story and goes to show how socialism sucks.
>>522627092UK politicians have basically zero incentive to lower house/rent prices because most of them own multiple homes and are landlords themselves.
>>522619387Kill yourself kike
>>522627174Yeah no shit, and the niggers are allowed to ruin the property and the landlord is still financially compensated by the state regardless of how much a ghetto it creates. NZ actually manages it pretty well, they're houses far apart and auctioned off after years. And if you fuck it up and cause trouble you get kicked out. Never hear that about Section 8 or British Council housing.
>>522627218But China’s slums are literal shitholes just the same, if not worse. Government is not to be trusted to provide for you.
>>522627286And social housing isn't a solution to issue. Migrants out.
>>522627218Alsohttps://apnews.com/article/china-migrant-worker-economy-f9dc355c514ffcedf3b79d9d3a840ee6Migrant workers might as well be china niggers ffs lmao.
>>522618178no generational wealth, theres illiterate chinks riding ferarris, Xi xi ping is mandate of heaven maxxing
>>522625599Fun fact. It wasn't the bamboo scaffolding that burned on those buildings. Bamboo is actually crazy hard to ignite.It was the netting that burned and it burned because of cheap Chinese shit. The law in Hong Kong mandates that netting is fire proofed, but it went up in flames because it was bought from some mainland Chinese company on the cheap.The buildings themselves caught fire because the work they were doing on them was putting in Styrofoam insulation, which is what ignited.
>>522626813How many people lost their "owned" homes to build that?
>>522627326Social housing worked fine before mass immigration, it's like everything else they've brought in 10million immigrants in 20 years without expanding the means to support the increased population.>>522627298but things are improving unlike in the west, they haven't destroyed their own peoples' living standards and economy through mass immigration.
>>522617867Clearly a chink psyop bait thread for retards
>>522624418is this your wife"THAT WONG ONE"oh great. happy for you."WONG WIFE INSIDE"no, anyone left in there will have short life.
>>522627859>Social housing worked fine before mass immigrationNo it didn't. The same issues persisted with that they turn into ghettos.
>>522627811None. What stupid question is that?
>>522625536>I'm a nepo baby: The postI mean I also get fat trust fund payouts (not that you're gonna believe me lmao) so I am more than qualified to laugh at boomer niggers who were too lazy to build a family business in comparison to what I have.But go off king you sure are virtuous for all that shit you were born into to no effort of your own.Also>hate the entire age groupI only talked shit about (((home investors))) retard, you're the one feeling personally attacked and expanding it to all boomerkikes.You of all people should understand what it takes to build generational wealth and it's not sitting on your ass for 50 years hoping husing prices go up. lmao nigga.
>>522627859>but things are improving unlike in the westWhere?
>>522628459Youth unemployment data. They stopped reporting on it and it got better.
>>522628667Anon, you assume these wumao shills are even half aware of shit that happened in China 10 years ago, let alone like 5? Lol.
>>522617867Cool maybe you should move to china>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOyeah that's what I thought
>Amerimutts>homeownerslol you dont own a home if your government can just bulldoze it to make space for some mutt highway
>>522618001natsoc wouldn't shove everyone into commie blocks (inb4 we get shown the nice big homes some higher up party members get). owning shit is still ownership but hard pass.