Yes we're well aware that most of these men are low T, had no father figure, or any masculine influence, and are suffering a massive Oedipus and superiority complex and have revenge fantasies from the mean men that bullied them growing up.

>>522619642
weak men will tell you, you are a pedo if you are dating a woman that is 20+ years old because they cannot get laid

>>522619711
what sort of realpolitik will attenuate this without causing too much collateral damage to the functional, load bearing men of aociety. obviously many of them are grossly unfit for civil or military service, and there are plenty of shelf stockers and retail people to go around. culling them would only swell sympathy toward their crisis.

we're incurred a massive human debt. inducing an enemy nation to produce these disjointed men is almost the perfect form of warfare

>>522619642
Nice one-eye fake story post.
Anyway, if you want to talk about load-bearing men, it's the alcoholics who are getting targeted. These guys in psych wards complaining about some invisible woman and illuminati garbage are possibly getting all the "otherworldly" data. Divination, voodoo, witchcraft, call it what you will. Something is frying the fuck out of people where your head becomes a vision dream generator and things are in your head collecting data.
It's a shame cause these guys are taking the bulk of the bad news. The threats from God/aliens, called demon possessed or insane from their community, the dreams will literally gaslight you that you are in hell or deserve this for some unspecified prior or future life crime, while simultaneously saying we'll get you out of this while you wait for years. And this isn't if you outright suicide from the terror of the initiation.

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>>522620287
Unfortunately, guys like OP's pic were given jobs like milk men or mailmen 50-70 years ago, low-stress, reliable, simple jobs that had a strict schedule where their psychoses could be managed and they'd still contribute to society. Now that we've imported infinity jeets, niggers and spics, the pressure on the lowest tier of make-work jobs for men has exploded to an untenable level, hence guys like him staying out of the workforce. This is the true tragedy of the jewish subversion that has rocked our country; the little men, guys like him, who end up rotting in their bedrooms instead of having meaningful options, a community giving them a chance, a world wherein they have an escape from the confines of their minds.

Fucking sad man.

>>522620594
If we can't do anything about their predicament, then the solution is to anticipate the damage; the aggregate resentment toward a system that has left them out to dry will culminate in electoral undertones that stand to bring chaos if another charlatan runs for president. It's a bewilderingly huge problem.

>>522620810
So, how do prevent this from happening in the future without killing the rest of society with the cure?

>>522619642
He seems alright tho, in all his not-alrightness.
It also seems like his parents are failures, so what exactly would anyone expect? If your parents are or were failures there's a high chance you will be one as well. It's not easy, and may be near impossible, to extricate oneself from a dogshit upbringing without perspective or skills that parents should have imparted.
So instead I'd say this is a product of the public school system (also a failure) "raising" children.

>>522620594
>Psychosis
It's a trick. It's being used similar to racist.
We know there's tech that can get in people's heads. The government is coming out talking about otherworldly craft/devices that they've had in possession for decades. We know the government has had an interest in mkultra.
But for some reason when people flip their shit because demons are in their heads it's completely unbelievable that it's caused by anything other than psychology, drugs, or demons.
>Well it's cause they sound crazy
It IS crazy. When you visit crazy town, guess what you see. A lot of infrastructure. Built here. It's a thing

>>522619966
You can't undo that sort of developmental damage.
Your job, as in: societies, was to prevent and mitigate it as the damage occured, which was in part during the previous generation, before this guy was a sperm cell, could have prevented his parents from being insane lunatics or society from degrading into piss and shit.
But now? You made that bed (except you didn't), now lay in it.

>>522619642
What these people don’t realize is that at least they have their freedom still. You’ll think I’m talking about freedom in the American sense, but I’m not. I’m talking about freedom of not being imprisoned, not captive to anyone or anything but a concept. It can be much much worse.

>>522619642
Seems everyone itt is a weak pussy faggot for reading more than two sentences of that pathetic retards whining, he's basically asking you to do for him whatever fucking human has to do, find purpose, or get good at accepting what comes your way.

>>522619966
>>522619729
>>522619711
>>522619642
The most mentally weak men are government/corporate employed cattle, thats why they instantly vote to bring in economic migrants and "give back" after they score their parasite job. Weakest dumbest people alive, anyone employed my big companies or the government, on the same level as drug dealers on welfare

>>522620810
are you saying strap suicide vests to them and sending them on holy journies?
i don't think they'll accept.

>>522620997
>freedom
You're more screwed up than him.

>>522619711
And the best we can hope for is them buying a gun and sending a message, even it's just the 3000ths yearly school shooting.
That won't communicate their message properly either, but nothing will, short of strapping a normie to a chair and beating him with a crowbar untill he actually listens, which isn't guaranteed before he expires.
Also consider all the social workers, paid from public funds, who also need work! This guy created two "jobs".

>>522620986
The thing is, this group of lost broken men provide a bipartisan justification for the state to encroach with surveillance when they elope from their rooms and commit heinous acts of violence. They're a very credible liability in that regard.
Paradoxically, though, far right and far left populism galvanize these people, so perhaps it's incumbent for both sides to seize their hearts and minds by any cynical measure; this is unbecoming of us.

>>522621221
Stupid usage of "elope", meant emerge

>>522619642
Just be racist. You could have high speed trains if niggers didn’t exist.

If you could take off work early on a Friday, hop on a train in St. Louis, and go to Boston in 8 hours, you wouldn’t hate life.

This doesn’t mean it’s niggers’ fault, or that you must hate them. They gotta go back to living off the land. Sounds crazy but it’s merely difficult.

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>>522619642
And these are people populating /pol/ (and most of the internet) nowadays. You read ideas from chronical loosers, troons, druggies neets and other idiots daily.
You think how you will end up when communicating with these scum? You are what you eat. And your brain is what you consume. And you consume shit written by losers daily.
And most of the though guys who will respond to this post saying they are not loosers are the biggest ones usually who love to larp online because offline they are nothing. But when you know how these losers operate you see through their facade. Like covid purebloods - the only thing these pepole can say about themselves "i didn't get vax I am better!!!!" while they didn't take vax because they are completely deranged antisocial losers who were afraid to go out of their basement.

>>522621221
Well obviously it isn't healthy.
>my sick society is getting more sick!
Will you ask for help like he's doing?
Because none is forthcoming and the answers are the same: bootstrap yourself and become your own doctor, then die being your own doctor, because death is the only cure, be it the death of a sick man or a sick society than nobody is capable of helping, not least because nobody actually wants to help, for whatever reason; in fact a lot of it was made that way intentionally. Neither parents nor politicians can claim it was an accident they fucked up their project. Maybe THEY should have asked for help. Nobody can help their failed project, at least not to the point of repairing it. And in fact, most likely, they acted how they wanted to, with some degree of intent, and maybe ignorance, but never did they work effectively to avoid this avoidable outcome.

The weak form political groups with undercurrents of resentment and wish for revenge. Nietzsche warned us about it

>>522621499
Nietzsche warned us about jealous goblins, which are best equivalented with Indians. This is more of a Freud case.

>>522621147
dumb and weak people will always be the majority, basically cattle. these are not people. youre all fools trying to build a civilization with scum.

now its just everybody for himself.

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>>522620594
>>522619642
Even normal and average men are getting roasted to death. Not just the bottom 20%. Even top 20% of men are struggling. Like only top 5% are doing good. Traditionally we had safeguards to throw the bottom 20% a bone and to keep the top 20% from getting too uppity. Those safeguards no longer exist. The Chad rat race outright eliminated 75% of them and rising. Even normal men are getting the bottom 20% treatment by society and especially women.

>>522621221
Expeled men are extremely disposed towards extremism and rebellion which is why. Historically the solution to this was to tie them down with a woman and children who were supposedly theirs to neutralize them. Otherwise very bad things happen which is obvious to anyone who pays attention.

>>522621221
>seize their hearts and minds by any cynical measure
Plenty of people already do that. But the first person to actually give a shit about these men instead of just trying to con then will have in his hands an incredible weapon. Our society is sick. Whoever puts it down will have earned his crown.

>>522621750
go try to rebel retard, good luck.
im pretty sure it has always been like this. nothing has changed and the people havent changed.

what has changed is your perception of it.

>>522621710
Civlizations are build with weak and stupid, but who are maintained by strong and able.
Problem with nowadays world is that thanks to democracy, internet and social media the weak and stupid are the ones actually in the position of power (by sheer amount of them). The power they are too stupid to use themselves that usually fucks them over because they are stupid and cannot rule. I.e. "the taxation of the rich" that all idiots and scum love to force that always ends up taxing middle class and giving even more power to billionaires who take tax money from governments. Strong and intelligent rulers do not want to fuck over their middle class. Stupid and weak though hate everyone above them and will literally try take the steering wheel out of hands of the driver despite not knowing how to drive themselves.

>>522621859
>nothing has changed
Look at how different are the laws all over the world compared to the same laws they had just a century ago. You are a retarded or perhaps have some special interests if you say nothing has changed.

>>522621750
My local Greggs employs a number of low intelligence and barely functional people. They take their jobs incredibly seriously and the manager keeps an eye on them. You can tell that they are proud of their jobs, conscientious and hard working.

>>522621651
How so?

>>522619642
This lost soul seems better than most of you desu. Fuck /pol/.

>>522621988
>you are a retarded
nice try

the super rich who own all the land and the castles+banks have always existed.
>NOoo not in my roman shitpire
its all so tiresome

>>522619642
by conspiracy you mean
>truth
if truth is what breaks down the pillars of "society" then maybe it needed a little remodeling.

>>522619642
"nice guys" are narcissistic psychos. Your pic is just someone who got dealt a bad hand.

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>>522619711
hey tough guy
you better man up soon

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>>522621378
>Like covid purebloods - the only thing these pepole can say about themselves "i didn't get vax I am better!!!!" while they didn't take vax because they are completely deranged antisocial losers who were afraid to go out of their basement.

>>522622096
In that it's largely psychiatric and the guy displays no open hostility, just despair, which is a common feature of untreated ADHD, Depression and being otherwise fucked.
The Nietzsche one doesn't see himself as fucked but unjustly betrayed, deserving all the best, not requiring handouts, but like niggers demanding reparations or chimping out.
In fact niggers fit the bill perfectly as well.

>>522619729
If you are a deadbeat dad, you are not winning by “getting laid” before raising a family. If you can afford multiple families, it is a hard sell but maybe works

>>522625353
Excess money isn't really necessary for healthy family life. In fact, much like the stereotype of money not making people happy, I doubt it has ever created a good family environment.
In fact parents obsession with money is one reason they may fail, seemingly assuming they can buy their children's good development.
>they can't
Even if they have a maid and governess and whatever household stuff. Go ask what classic aristocrats relationship with their parents is like. Unhealthy and transactional. Buying expensive toys is more counter-productive than helpful.
On the other hand poor people with good parents never complain about their upbringing.

>>522625228
>but unjustly betrayed
this is certainly how I feel, but I do not believe I am owed anything from society except a basic level of decorum and a fair opportunity to make something of myself. These things being withheld from me, as well as being subsequently shamed and demeaned for requesting them, lead me to have no loyalty to the system or those who support it.

>>522625537
You violate dignity below a certain amount. Not everyone has an extra 1 million to pay for another family.

>>522619642
Too late kek

>>522619966
Wrong question
Billions must die
That's the correct answer

>>522625751
True, but the one who tends to be hurt by this isn't the child, assuming it is otherwise well raised: it's the parents who might suffer the chief portion of the shame or feeling of inadequacy, which may make them ill, like turning to alcoholism, and that obviously will have negative repercussions for the offspring, leading to one form of deadbeat parents.
But I really just meant to say the other extreme, or extremes in general, isn't good either, being very affluent is no panacea, and poverty itself is less of an issue than possible consequences on the parents, or mental health consequences of joblessness.
As far as I can see these latter issues don't come from nowhere however. Good parents don't necessarily turn into bad ones by becoming poor; instead they already had preexisting issues, which may also have played a role in their rising poverty.
Shit parents perpetuate themselves to some degree, but absolutely not always, in that some children resolve to be better parents than the shit-show they experienced.

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>>522619966
it's a self correcting problem which is why tptb do everything they can to pacify or otherwise brow beat. the tree of liberty etc.

>>522625537
I agree broadly with what you said about how excess money affects childhood, but less so about being raised poor. Children are perceptive, they see the faces their parents make when they ask for parents and can put together the implications of wearing clothes from second hand stores. If the child is smart enough they will realize they are a burden. This is not healthy for a child's mind and leads them to try to justify their inherent existence to their parents. Regardless of the fact that this was the reality for most children since at the very least the adoption of agriculture, it is not the ideal for a child's psyche to develop. A child is unable to care for itself, so to feel secure in itself the child must always feel safe and provided for. For instance we see this in the common life outcomes of children who would otherwise have lived a relatively normal life were it not for having an absent father. The little girl without the safety, security and acceptance of a father figure grows into a woman who desperately seeks that feeling from men often unaware of how recklessly she does so, often in the form of giving these men sex in the hopes they will give her what her father did not. The little boy without a father figure will either overcompensate for what he knows, either consciously or sub consciously, he lacks; buying a Harley and making it his identity or attending firearms training courses while doing nothing to change being physically weak and slovenly or other such forms of douchery. Alternately he will withdraw into himself and never grow up into a man who can take care of himself and others; again this 'man' is aware that he is a poor excuse for a man on some level and he reacts extremely defensively when this fact is made clear to him. Most often such a man will go to great lengths to avoid any reminders of his short comings.

>>522626260
>the tree of liberty
must from time to time be watered by the blood of school children and autists,. and we're approaching the rainy season.

>>522626205
I responded before you addressed poverty, but I stand by what I said above

>>522626326
yeah that's part of the scheme but overton windows only matter while society is civil, which despite it all we still pretend to be.

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>>522619642
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>>522621750
It is difficult to understate just how much psychological damage occurs in the young mind in never experiencing love when it was supposed to. It creates invisible but ever present and outwardly manifesting psychological wounds that may heal over time, but never disappear. It is a lifelong crippling of the mind, affecting things like confidence, self-esteem, healthy thought processes, and inability to cope with the difficulties in life in a healthy way. It breeds attitudes of perpetual envy and anger and depression. Especially when said individuals are constantly bombarded by images and media of people having lived their best life while they missed out and can never experience, ever. Because time is only linearly forward.

A means to try and "heal the mind" which has already happened for many who have resigned themselves to apathy and quiet resentment, but it doesn't remove the scar. The scar is always there. Always present. And it will always serve as a reminder, and always influence future thoughts and decisions and actions.

>>522619642
You are a massive faggot and so is everyone else who humored you in this thread. You are using some guy's misery to make some 'point' that only your fellow circlejerking autists will understand. I hope you are proud of what you did here today. The truth is that life has always been full of very messed up people with chronic issues that stop them from functioning. But now, you get to use those issues to larp as some eugenics-practicing right-winger on an imageboard.

>ITT scared cunts forgot the faces of those they bullied as they add up.
Shit happens if you don't tie up loose ends. My advice? Don't expect others to clean up your mess. Lol

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>>522626485
>The truth is that life has always been full of very messed up people with chronic issues that stop them from functioning.
as discussed earlier in the thread, there used to be multiple pressure relief valves in society to account for this. These relief valves are either no longer functioning correctly or removed entirely, so here we are on a Kazakhstani calligraphy board

>>522626293
But you see yourself: this also is heavily dependant on the parents and how they raised their child. If they're not troubled by the situation and explain to their children the tricks society plays on them, like expecting everything they see their peers have, most of these issues can be avoided, especially with an openness in communication. This however often is lacking and parents underestimate their children's insight.
And caving to those social pressures, being a slave to them, is objectively equally unhealthy as is poverty, turning people into consumer drones, negatively affecting their mental health and perpetuating social ills.
>new iPhone and Gucci clothing every year
That's also mental illness and will perpetuate itself, in that they're near guaranteed to again experience a kind of subjective poverty.
>so I got the iPhone and Gucci clothes.. but what about the gold watch?
>like real gold. Genuine Rolex, not gold plated because that's a crucial distinction
>don't wanna suffer embarrassment if my buddy weights and disassembles my watch
They want to avoid fakes and thereby become fake persons themselves.
There's nothing wrong with second hand clothes btw, especially nowadays. In fact they're amazing. It's purely an attitude issue.
>bad attitude le bad
Who would have thunk it hehe, whether on parts of the patent or child, but often the former leads to the latter.
Now of course it's generally healthy to be financial secure and extreme poverty is a major problem, but not imagined subjective poverty, which is itself a psychiatric disease, not formally of course, like demoralisation, because society is built around these two things, consumption and demoralisation. Can't label them an illness.

>>522626620
The world has definitely changed in ways that make those guys' lives much harder. But to put this guy's problems in a glass case for everyone to point at and larp about the usual nine yards is just disgusting. People don't listen, but I've mentioned here before that you can't take expectations of the past and fully apply them to the present and future. So you will see many more guys like that in the future, since nothing exists to absorb them or benefit then. And trad larpers on here will spew venom against 'incels' and 'modern men' because they believe that so many non-functioning guys throws a spoke in the wheels of their plans.

>>522626439
how long until I go insane
being stuck with lucid but calm acquiescence of the awful state is fine for now but I await the next stage.

>>522626764
>But you see yourself
I don't deny this, but I have seen these things play out too many times to ignore it
>If they're not troubled by the situation and explain to their children the tricks society plays on them
I freely admit the thought of parents doing such a thing is completely novel to me. The older I get the more and more I realize how unhealthy my own childhood was.
>And caving to those social pressures, being a slave to them, is objectively equally unhealthy as is poverty, turning people into consumer drones, negatively affecting their mental health and perpetuating social ills.
I completely agree. I would go further and label this as fetters set on the mind rather than the limbs. This process keeps people on the debt mill until they die and keeps line go up intact.

>>522626800
>But to put this guy's problems in a glass case for everyone to point at and larp about the usual nine yards is just disgusting.
Agreed. I am not one for great expression of sentimentality, but to know my own suffering and know there are plenty of my brothers out there who have it immeasurably worse is a terrible thing. Sometimes I am overwhelmed by the profound tragedy of such a life, of the scope of such a thing happening to so many men and it fucks me up pretty bad for a couple days. I wish I could do something to help, but I barely have a handle on taking care of myself. If I end up not having children, I hope that I can eventually, somehow make a difference in even just one or two life's of such lost and broken men living in this nightmare cage we find ourselves in.

>>522627016
Bad parenting sadly is a pandemic of sorts, probably not just recently, and extremely damaging to society, especially when it becomes the norm.
Something like both parents working full time, seen as normal today, nevermind divorce and atomised families, comes at great cost to everybody but the rich or fortunate.
In a manner of speaking being rich, or striving to be so, has itself become a social disease. It's not really worth sacrificing so much for.
In fact I am often amused by the fact that many high income people.. seem to have little opportunity to actually enjoy or use their wealth.
>49 weeks of work
>3 weeks of 5 star luxury holiday
But at least bank account number goes up!
>Conan, what is best in life?
Bank account content.
And in reality they're poor anyway and got pranked by the bank jew. Rich people literally don't have to work and just do it for fun (or mental illness, of course).
In fact we could spread this a bit further: if your job is fun you're "rich". Also if your family life is healthy and stable.
Maybe not rich in raw numerals and gold weight, but more important metrics like social wellbeing, life-satisfaction and inner peace.

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>>522627426
its a shame that such effort posting is being done by a memeflag. I dont want you to, but you still need to kys

>>522627426
Enjoying this thread. Lots of effort posting, ty anon. Personally, I've never met anyone irl that realizes these societal tricks by themselves. I grew up in a poor household with lots of dysfunction, so I find my thinking at odds with normalfags all the time. College education needs to be up there as one of the most jewy scams society has cooked up. It's been distilled down into feminized retard diploma mill that midwits worship, only because they haven't any other meaningful accomplishments. I've managed to convince a buddy of mine it wasn't the end of the world he failed out of university. He went through everything in this thread (as did I), and the pressure finally caught up with him. Suddenly his life plans of six figure salaries, wife, kids, everything that comes with this perceived easy-street crashed and burned. For literal months he hid at the school's library to avoid his parents finding out he stopped attending classes out of shame. Until I brought up how diseased normal society was and still is, he was fully indoctrinated into it. He's now incredibly based and perceptive and mentally doing better. Society is a fucking prison and your fellow inmates are all batshit insane cannibals.
> normie beats schizo, schizo beats psychos, psycho beats normie

>>522619642
Does that faggot sound like he has any power?
It's more the effeminate useless midwit ruling class raised from cradle to grave without any interaction with normal people that is the problem, but yes, they are also weak men as they even let women join in.

>>522619642
The moment i understood multiculturalism would be forve ypon us no matter who i vote for is when i completely lost intrest in taking part in society. I am now leechmaxxing while legally working from home, and will leave this grey, suicidal, piece of shit country when I have enough money. Almost no western country is worth fighting for, the politicians made sure of that.

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>>522626937
The next step is embracing eternal doom.

>>522627709
Jannies were harassing me (no schizo) and this seems to have thrown them off for now. Maybe they think I'm a fellow kike.

>>522628718
I'm quite resentful of having been taught barely anything of value and having to figure it out myself. It actually became a sort of pathology, where I had the urge to figure out everything, and then I had to realize the results of gaining such insights are ultimately less than pleasant, looking the terrible reality into the face to such an extent, so the only real use I find in it is sharing that knowledge, because long term that's the only way out of this hell, however optimistic that is, to expect people to actually wake up and do something about it.
The current state of education is a disaster, not for lack of formal knowledge, say in hard sciences, but sociology, economics and such, to comprehend the flawed nature of the system.
But I did have my successes and slowly but surely this knowledge is finding its way around (not necessarily due to me, that is).
Boomers can't be fixed, but zoomers and beyond have no other choice but confronting these issues as we inch closer to collapse. Take the mental health crisis for instance. It's not hard to explain at all.

another thread where we all inevitably come to the conclusion of "jews gotta go"
imagine that

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>>522630256
The solution to most modern problems is
>Get rid of Jews
>Give your country's young men more opportunities and authority
>Tell boomers to fuck off and never pander to them ever

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>it's not so much direct threats like violent criminals, but rather the aggregate influences and conspiracies of mentally weak men that stand to insidiously erode the foundation of society.
>these people will fuck your shit up, do not them into positions of power