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No one needs benefits. The medical system is a joke as likely to damage or kill you as to treat or cure you. Retirement has always been just for those at the top. Non-elites have always been expected to work, to the capacity they can as they age (if they live long enough to age), until they pass. The schemes tried during the optimistic wave of the 20th century to extend what were always privileges for the top few to the masses could only ever go on for a limited time, since it turns out infinite growth really isn't attainable in a finite world. In the 60s, for example, there was a lot of hope in space exploration. The biggest motivator of the Space Race was to beat the Soviets and ensure space didn't become a new field of operations where the Soviets had an advantage due to developing it first, so the US engaged and got really far in space exploration and weaponization technology. Then by the early 70s it was finally clear, at the popular level, that space isn't going to provide a new home for us because few of the places up there are habitable for humans, so few that the nearest planet that we could live on is going to be many light years away -- unreachable. Many scientists knew how big space is and how specific the requirements for human life are and that colonizing space was a very far off prospect, if it can ever happen, before the popular realization dawned in the 70s, but the public and even many in government just wanted to indulge fantasies of space colonization and let the good times roll based on faulty reasoning.
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>>522623229
So we still live in a world of limited resources, space being unattainable anytime soon, if ever, and the promises about retirement, which were all based on presumptions of endless growth, have proved themselves Ponzi schemes. (If unlimited growth were possible, and available to us, then retirement available to ordinary people wouldn't actually be a Ponzi scheme, but we don't live in that world and have to contend with this one, preferably realistically and reasonably instead of continuing to indulge hopeful fantasies -- delusions at this point -- that let us feel good a while longer while unavoidable problems mount during our inaction.)
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>>522623229
TLDR?
Really, not even being sarcastic. At least format it a little.
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>>522623251
The best idea for non-elites is to find a line of work that you can actually do until old age and until you pass, and, if it's possible, a line of work you enjoy enough, or at least can tolerate enough, that you don't dread having to do it everyday. That's easier said than done. I've worked with plenty of immigrants and a common observation/complaint they have made to me is how American workplaces (except in government, I would think, so mainly the private employers) don't have a system to move aging workers into less demanding roles that they can continue to perform in as the limitations of age creep up, and these immigrants mentioned that employers where they're from -- but it's hard to find work in those places in the ordinary economy, as opposed to the gray and black economies where yes, you can find work, but at a price of legal risk and risk to your life, maybe your family too -- employers just see it as normal that as their longtime workers age, they need to be shifted into new roles, trained as well for these roles, and so those companies have a process in place for enabling longtime employees to continue working throughout the aging process. Here in the America, everyone passes the buck, meaning the employer uses you until you're no longer useful, then you have to find something else to make your living, and the official assumption, even promulgated by government/mainstream media, is that there's always another option readily available and we have a complete system in place for handling life's difficulties, and those who suffer just haven't availed themselves of what's on offer perhaps due to pride or mental illness or some other dysfunction. In reality, we don't have an overarching system for dealing with aging workers.
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>>522623307
Workplaces like to hire their managers externally or, if they promote from within (pretty rare nowadays), the promotions go to favorites, very likely relatives or friends of the higher ups. So as workers age, the onus is on them to work out their survival. It's Social Darwinism but that isn't necessarily a bad thing, since the competitiveness in the very fabric of our system keeps the American economy remarkably competitive despite what remain relatively high wages, like when you compare the US economy to other old, developed economies. So it's a double-edged sword: no significant system for dealing with aging workers, but relative competitive advantage due to not having such systems in place with all the bureaucracy they entail that bogs down economic activity.

The US dollar likely won't be unseated from its throne for a while, since we have a global economy that is getting stricter but isn't ultimately going away despite the naysayers wishes (many valid complains, some daydreaming too), and replacing a global reserve
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Okay I actually read it out of curiosity.

You could have just said
> The post-WWII social contract was a utopian anomaly based on delusional beliefs about space and infinite growth and that delusion is over, bills are coming due. Get used to a harsher, more ‘natural’ world in which most people work until they can’t anymore and die because that’s what human history has always looked like outside of a few lucky generations in a few rich countries.
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>>522623229
Don't. The implosion that Musk fears is the best way to start repairing the world.
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>>522623229
We are better off letting the economy blow up and the liberal system with it.
Musk and those like him want to stretch things out for another 20y if they can manage it, that’s the entire point of NRx dark enlightenment, it’s the final gasp of Liberalism where it just abandons all the high idealism for it’s true core beliefs in order to save itself.
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>>522623229

Elon's got too much swagger to be the next Hitler. Nobody would ever take him seriously in that context. Hitler had conviction.
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>>522623270
It's broken into paragraphs, but I follow 4chan standards of not separating paragraphs with whole empty lines, so using this system, it's hard to find the new paragraphs sometimes. But it's our way. If I didn't do it this way, you or someone else would be accusing me of "reddit spacing" instead, so I just go by the standard formatting of whatever platform of public discussion I'm using.
Also, people are free to read what they wish. The old criticism against the scolds was that if you don't like what you're seeing on TV, you're free to change the channel or turn the TV off.
Same here. If you don't want to read this, scroll past.
What I'm writing is just my take, with reasons provided, on our fiscal situation in the US, long term especially. The TLDR is we have to pare back expectations for material living standards in a big way, and the most effective and humane way to achieve this lowering of expectations is to implement change, like cuts, generationally, and not even raise new generations to have high expectations in general, excepting perhaps those born to means for whom it still makes sense to expect quite a bit.
All this applies even more so to your country, Portugal, than to the US, as you don't have the reserve currency and are much poorer to begin with. So you'll be seeing such cuts even faster than we will. It's better to be ready.
But if you wish to ignore the issue, that's your right. Most people will do exactly this anyway, then be caught by surprise, and then the government will have to scramble to justify what it's doing with all these cuts, although governments are also very complicit because they didn't level with the people about the fiscal situation.
Mostly, people and government just wanted to party up and ignore the looming future. That why so few are prepared.
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>>522623346
is very hard to do when countries need to trade everyday. So even countries validly angry at the US still have to obtain dollars to conduct daily business, and this won't suddenly stop for any reason less than a giant war that somehow wrecks the US rapidly, like a big nuclear exchange, which is very unlikely. The advantage our population receives because our currency is necessary for countries to maintain trade is helping keep our aging workforce afloat through due to the wealth effect of being able to trade arbitrarily creatable fiat for real goods and services, and this phenomenon (rare in history, and unprecedented at the scale where it's happening today for the US economy) just makes the US far wealthier than every other country, whose currency doesn't comes with such leverage that you can trade virtually nothing for lots of actual things. Or, we could say that if we didn't have this reserve currency that lets us get something for nothing except a common means of exchange, the loss of wealth this would entail would be felt hard and fast by aging workers, since it's becoming hard enough to keep those old promises from the era when unlimited growth was assumed even with the unique benefits of the US dollar, and without these benefits there would be no realistic way to fund retirements anywhere near the level they're at today. For as hard as aging workers have it, trying to find new lines of work and even change careers when they're no longer suited to the work they've been doing, they'd have it a lot worse if our country were poorer just from losing the unique advantages the US dollar has today.
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>>522623229
let the mexicans kill the niggers and white trash with fentanyl, it's not even expensive enough as a drug to bother going after dealers anyway, i thought drumpf was a smart "business" man but how is he smart when he won't let the fentanyl dealers hype it up until it's profitable like cocaine so the government can throw drug dealers in prison after taking the money they made from it?
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>>522623388
He's a retard working for it by having jeet children, he has no knowledge about the genetic decay of mutts, quite pathetic, really. he doom part of his own children on being mutts, like other kikes and associates. Retards to the end! kek.
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>>522623229
None of what he says is honest. He simply doesn't like that employers pay for employee healthcare, and is willing to spin any tall tale to get what he wants.
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>>522623505
He can’t talk either, none of these tech dorks can.

They thrive on clips and articles written about them, but when you have to actually listen to them they stutter constantly and can barely articulate their ideas.
Hitler was a great orator, and even Trump is notably superior to most other people when it comes to public speaking.
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>>522623530
But how do we reconcile unrealistic expectations for retirement with reality? It's one thing to explain a bit about the situation we're in, and it's a very different thing to find solutions that people are anywhere near ready to entertain let along accept. And the devil is always in the details.

First off -- and this is obvious, like so obvious that of course people don't see it -- these lavish government pensions need to be scaled back or ended. A "civil servant" (serving herself or himself really, much more than any good they do for society or civitas) today can retire fully, or get full retirement, after usually 25 years of "service." So someone who can break into kind of work (it's very competitive and often depends on connections, and social promotion of minorities and women into these cushy jobs has been going on since at least the 1970s at the national level) at age 25, right after college and maybe a master's degree, then fully retire at 50 years old and just draw from the system (other workers) for three more decades. And these benefits are not just regular amounts of money like to ensure retirees can live with basic security, instead they're very generous. The health plans alone are equivalent to what only upper management and executives can get in the private sector, while the monthly retirement check is also very nice: much better than an average 401k.
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>>522623573
Government employees being compensated as they are today are draining the system, but government -- even Trump, when push comes to shove -- ensures government employees, aside from the few dismissed with great fanfare in a show about how the government is tightening its belt, continue to live comfortably so as to buy and ensure their loyalty. No matter how much Republicans bitch about government employees' expense, and I've hearing it my whole life while government has only grown bigger (we have a procedure for everything, and this is considered progress), they really don't want to dismiss a large portion of the bureaucracy because this would diminish their own power. A state is as strong as the administration that executes its will or enforces its decisions, so every state has a strong interest in having lots of employees because the more they have, the more the state can do and the so more powerful the state is. This is the paradox the deficit hawks keep running into when they try to pare back the government but the realization dawns on them that this means reducing their own power, so after some hoopla about tightening the belt the deficit hawks go quiet or change the subject, perhaps after doing a few "show cuts" or getting rid of some government employees and announcing this with fanfare as if they achieved something that matters.

The whole DOGE thing earlier this year was another in a series of these occasions, except DOGE did do somewhat more than most of these efforts in the past 50 or so years, but still nowhere near enough to make government spending sustainable. Elon Musk himself has recently made statements, like in the past few months, about how AI is the only hope of saving the government from financial collapse. What he's saying is if the hyped up promises of a new level of efficiency and giant profits and tons of new economic activity that can be taxed don't come true, and instead AI doesn't live up to the hype, then the government
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>>522623588
is financially fucked and will inevitably find itself in a situation of making some very hard choices guaranteed to enrage a public that hasn't been told the real extent of the problem because the government has spent decades ignoring the consequences of reckless spending.

So first off, stop promising government employees big retirement packages after 25 years on the job. As it becomes these retirements are unaffordable by the government, the government will tax the private sector harder, ordinary people at first because they have the least power to fight back, but eventually big business as well, since the government won't be apt to reduce its own capacity to rule or enact its will by shrinking its employee base that exists to do the bidding of the government.

Then, after it finally becomes clear that the people are squeezed dry trying to pay for every level of government's overpaid workforce, or really the ordinary people whose function is to be tax donkeys are squeezed dry and the big businesses who have more power to fight back have made it clear they won't tolerate further tax increases, government at all levels will, out of necessity, start prioritizing which employees to keep and which ones to dismiss and whose pay and benefits to start cutting. The process will be a mess and stir up a lot of anger, especially from members of the bureaucracy who will finally have to realize that the big promises made to them cannot be kept. I'm sure they'll raise hell, maybe even take it out on the public like by fucking with people trying to go through whatever bureaucratic process they are required to see through to do what they have to do, from getting business permits to whatever. Hell hath no fury like a bureaucrat scorned. I've seen how petty these people are.
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>>522623588
the government needs to waste money on putting in sidewalks in cities in the south so they can get the retards on fentanyl and confiscate money from drug dealers after they hype it up into a popular expensive drug
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They have a superiority complex based on their status as the government's favored class and they hold their privileges high. But eventually a reckoning will occur, however messy, as government pay and benefits are cut, and even then we'll be going through a continual bargaining process where some serious cuts are made, then the government feels like it's done enough to stabilize things, and maybe we will have a system that can go on a while longer, before the cycle continues and another series of substantial cuts occurs.
And Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid are just unaffordable, especially the last two due to how expensive medical care has become (been enabled to become), while there will be no overarching system in place to try to manage the decline of government spending power (hence of government power and its ability to exert its will in the country) and instead each constituency of these programs, mainly seniors and the poor, will argue and fight over who is more deserving or needy. In other words, the decline won't be rationally managed, which would have benefits and drawbacks, but it won't happen in any case so no reason to dwell on something that won't happen when serious decisions have to be made.
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>>522623646
Yeah, the government took our money for SS and Medicare, but no one ever said life is fair or that governments are honest. If we get back a portion of what we paid in, then we're doing pretty good already in the bigger picture that includes all the ways this could shake out. The older retirees have the best chance to be repaid in full compared to what they paid in, and they're already getting their SS and Medicare. People born after around 1970 will likely be the ones who have to pare back their expectations, and it's kind of a good thing that the millennials and zoomers have been set up to have low expectations of life since it's easier to accept a meager life when you never expected much more than it is to go from expecting a lot to finding yourself with little, which is how it would go for the older generations who grew up with high expectations. I think it's actually crueler to take something good from someone who has had it and knows how good it is to have it than it is to deprive someone of something they didn't even expect to have and who doesn't even understand what they're missing out on, for example in how the millennials and zoomers won't get much but they never were told to expect much so they're adapt more easily to the new material standard of life.

SS isn't much of an "entitlement" program as the media likes to say, parroting what the media's owners tell them. Most SS recipients don't end up drawing tons more than they paid in, and were their contributions invested well, they'd have paid for the retiree's full retirement costs. (But a lot of stock valuation is just funny money put in the system to puff it up, so how much those contributions would have really appreciated, under non-interventionist conditions like if the 2008 crash had been allowed to run its course instead of the government throwing around ten trillions at the "systemically important" businesses to keep them afloat, is likely a lot less than today's stock
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DOGE Caught 4M Social Security Numbers given by biden to illegals
They got free medicaid
They got Driver's Licenses
They got voter registrations
Tons of them are confirmed to have voted

DOGE NEVER LEFT
DOGE ISN'T ENDING
DOGE KEEPS CATCHING CRIMINAL SHIT & SAVING MONRY
>https://x.com/Real_RobN/status/1995350937360380071
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>>522623666
valuations lead one to believe about the real amount of wealth out there.)

Medicare is a system where people take out far more than they pay in in almost every case, since Medicare isn't that big of a deduction from each paycheck while medical costs for the elderly are sky high. Making the country fiscally healthy again will require new expectations about what medicine can do for people, meaning people will have to stop expecting so much chronic disease treatment and terminal illness treatment and stay healthy as long as they can and then accept what happens when health declines or a terminal illness occurs.

Medicaid is there from the Great Society days when US progressivism was feeling its oats and the administration even declared a "War on Poverty." Its main function today is just to appease poor people who could turn dangerous if their entitlements are cut off quickly, so the way to handle Medicaid is to reduce what it offers gradually, especially to the younger cohorts who expect less in the first place, until some system of basic care is in place, like for treating broken bones and other emergencies, if any system remains in place for poor people's healthcare.

SS, Medicare, and Medicaid make up more than 70% of federal spending and will have to be reduced hugely to put the US on a path to surviving as a country. The military accounts for most of the remaining 30%. It too will have to be pared back in a big way. We're already seeing it as the US war hawks finally realize they've failed in the Middle East and are retreating back to the Western Hemisphere and just trying to maintain control over our "backyard" as far as military pressure is used to push US interests, in accordance with the 200 year old Monroe Doctrine.
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Whatever Venezuela is up to, and I'm the country is a shithole, a big part of why the US is going after Venezuela now is to prove to the world and to itself that we still have the power to exert our will in some serious way through military means. Latin America has a complex relationship with the US, trading more with China now overall than with America and its anemic manufacturing base, but the age old expectation that Latin American countries will fall in line with US foreign policy probably prevails and Venezuela will be a test of whether the US can continue to control its hemisphere or will have to retreat deeper in its military attempts to push US interests, like if Latin America, which doesn't Venezuela much but also retains hard feelings against the US, decides to give America lots of problems over a long enough period that the US decides to pull out overall as has happened in Vietnam and the Middle East.
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But the military will have to be cut back too. Service members actually deserve a decent retirement after only a couple decades of work -- if anyone actually does -- because they work on call and have to report anytime, day or night, for the duration of their active service. That's a much higher level of demand placed on them that doesn't apply to regular civil servants, who get tons of holidays off and lots of vacation time and for whom work is not how it is for the blue collar class who are expected to stay busy while they're on the clock. The bureaucrats get lots of downtime anyway, which makes them even less deserving of retirement after just a couple decades on the job. So instead of cutting pay and benefits for military personnel, we may just need to downsize the military and stop the efforts to create Wunderwaffe of chase the next breakthrough in military technology. Maybe take Russia for a role model here. They focus on key areas that offer a lot of back for their buck while knowing they won't match America in areas like sea power. America could focus on certain main defense technologies, like maintaining our nuclear arsenal, along with a few other main areas, then cut the rest, including the carrier fleet that's outdated but the admirals aren't ready to admit it yet, despite having enough information to know this, rather like the generals of World War I who expected a glorious little 19th century war despite there being enough information about what modern weapons would do that their incompetence looks like unwillingness to accept that times had changed.

And for the state and local governments, again, start with retirement packages that have been overpromised. They're the biggest drain.
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>>522623229
Classify fiat money as money counterfeiting punished by capital punishment.
It's all you need (and only real way) to put finances back into good.
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Police are very well paid nowadays and won't put up with major cuts quietly, so it'll be a while before reducing them back to ordinary government workers will occur, complete with a process of squeezing the tax donkey as much as possible before the people with power admit this won't cut it.
The rest of the 21st century looks to be rather disappointing for the West insofar as material standards of living go and expectations for them. But there is opportunity elsewhere, like to make your mark in history in crafting the new philosophies for coping with the new world that's emerging.
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Most of the problems Elon is trying to deal with isn't corruption, it's ineffective spending on issues that are legitimate. People who rich are not going to accept hin stripping society of it's entire social system because they are profiting off it. Elon himself has taken an insane amount of our money and used it to block us from achieving what we would have without him anyways. He just buys companies and takes the credit of the people who couldn't succeed because they aren't in the inner group that controls most countries and is interlinked internationally. That's why the Epstien files are so important, it's really a road map to who is who, similar to the Panama files. They know a lot of people know this and they are setting up to fuck over all of society in an overthrow. But they're fucking morons and their AI automation beast is just as likely to kill them. They also being psychopaths are just as likely to try and kill each other since people really don't change. There iw zero trust and all of them are trying to defeat reality itself, but that's just not going to happen.
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>>522623762
The matter is more complex than your ideology can comprehend and account for.
And okay, we go back to the gold standard. Then America immediately loses a huge portion of its wealth, like up to fifty percent, because now the money printer can't go brrrr and produce fiat dollars other countries are willing to accept for goods and services.
The USD has an actual value even as fiat, and this is why the world is still using it for most trade: ease of international trade.
That's a big value in a global economy. Without a global currency most of the world accepts, the global economy may well fragment and most countries would be scrambling just to get needed goods and services now sourced abroad.
We could go to a world of autarkic blocs, but that would take a long time to develop, since not only would stable, trustworthy currencies have to be developed for each bloc, but countries in each bloc would have to come to trust each other enough to form such a bloc. Easier said than done.
There is not one ideology today, nor one we can dredge up from the past, and just apply it and then we're fine. Lots of schools of thought have pieces that can be fit in to solve the puzzle, but we have a lot of work to do, original work that addresses unprecedented circumstances.
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>>522623863
You're right about Musk being hyped up as some genius he really isn't, and about how he gets access to wealth in ways other people are barred from. A lot of the billionaires are just good lackeys of the system, ultimately just employees of the government in a sense, tasked with overseeing major systems of government power.
Facebook Guy (I can't recall his name) is as phony as they come. Facebook was just MySpace repackaged by some intelligence agency, with better tools built in for storing everyone's data, and hyped up using naive college kids as the NEXT BIG THING for hip young yuppies to follow. Then the day Facebook launched was the day some DARPA type project officially ended. They couldn't have been more obvious about how Facebook is a literal psyop, but they clearly don't care if some percipient folks on the internet know what they're up to -- they can denounce us as crazy anyway, and most people will go along to get along, probably believe them and even if they don't, will drop the subject so as not to endanger themselves.
But Musk isn't wrong about the financial cliff the US and every developed country is facing. Being a creation of intelligence agency hype doesn't automatically make him wrong, anymore than it makes him a genius.
He's a pretty bright guy who checked the right boxes to become a candidate for the role the system/government/Allied Western and Israeli Intelligence Agencies needed to fill as the guy in the system who administers the development of the most high tech and cutting edge industries on the horizon.
So yeah, to get that job, Musk must be pretty damn smart, since the cluster of Allied Intelligence Agencies who chose him for this super important role (and have now rewarded him with half a trillion dollars personal wealth) are not stupid and they vet their guys (and gals too) for both loyalty/reliability and for competence (though some less than competent affirmative action women and minority managers slip through).
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>>522623270
>Boomers got theirs, socialist gov expenses for other generations get cut
space is fake and gay let it go
what are the political implications of cutting bennies being "democratically" infeasible except during emergencies
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>>522623229
it is not possible, the us is adding 2t a year to deficit by design
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if you want to solve the fiscal issue with an intact political system figure out a way to create a fale managable emergency to ram reforms through. Ideally decisionmakers believe this fale emergency is existential and reform is do or die
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>>522624784
fake*
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>>522624229
It's not a complex issue, the global banking system will collapse when the US defaults on it's debt. A lot of people are going to bet on assets and start making their own banks with their own currencies. The government is going to not be able to protect their assets and it's going to be extremely hard for the US to keep law and order for some time. At this point, law enforcement and security may end up creating a mafia and simply taking everything from the rich. Logistics and roads will break down and communities will die and become localized.
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>>522623229
>The medical system is a joke as likely to damage or kill you as to treat or cure you
A shred of evidence or fuck off to /x/
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>>522624838
the guys who fill the cause of death form pull a "I plead the 5th" instead of implicating iatrogenic death. Take the clotshot
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>>522623229
So billionaries can have medical system and retirement but normal people can't?
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>>522624546
You can talk about the unfairness of it all you like, and you're right: it's unfair. But that doesn't change the situation and you're just getting yourself lost in bitterness instead of taking whatever action you can to improve your situation.
A lot of life is timing, even being born at the right time, and this has always been true. A Roman citizen born in AD 100 was better off than one born in AD 200 who got to live through (or not live through) half a century of civil wars when the empire almost broke and what emerged as the Roman Empire on the other side of the "Third Century Crisis" was very different from the old, classical Rome.
And we get opportunities the Boomers never had, specifically for genius and saintliness, in forging new idea systems that could never have broken through in the good times of the mid 20th century until recently when cultural hegemony was so strong that truly original thinking couldn't find an audience of any decent size. And people today, like those Romans before and especially after the Crisis of the Third Century, have the opportunity to find new ways of being moral and discover new ideals of morality that, again, could never have caught on during the materialistic craze and hedonism of the post-war era.
So we actually have a better opportunity to make our mark on history, one that last centuries to millennia, than the Boomers did. Times of crisis are when things really change and history's Great Men do their thing.
The best a Boomer could hope to be is a billionaire or a president. How many rich men, of the many millions of them in history, are remembered? Virtually none, except a few special cases, like when their lives interweaved with major political happenings or with titanic cultural shifts, such as the Medici family in Florence. How many of the tens of thousands of kings of the past are much remembered today? Only a few dozen remain household names, others are footnotes in history books and many are forgotten.
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>if you want to solve the fiscal issue with an intact political system figure out a way to create a fale managable emergency to ram reforms through. Ideally decisionmakers believe this fale emergency is existential and reform is do or die
It might require something like this.
I have to wonder if the US wanted World War II and egged it on, not just Japan in embargoing their oil which was indeed an act of war, but in Europe too by demonizing and having the UK provoke Germany over and over.
The Masters of the Universe types in those days likely realized a new World War was needed to justify the changes needed in society to stabilize the economic system and stave off growing far left (and far right -- but both economically populist, though in different flavors) movements.
US elites benefitted so much from WWII that you have to ask Cui Bono?, Cicero's old wise chestnut.
America won WW2, not the Allies. Britain lost everything, America gained everything -- the whole British sphere of influence pretty much, with Britain getting to act as the experienced advisors to cowboy mentality American political leaders in how to administer the world. The Soviets didn't make out too shabby either, but couldn't hold the Soviet Union together very well after Stalin's death, like that entity needed such a brutal guy to helm it just to be highly functional. So 15 years after Stalin, the USSR was in what turned out to be its terminal malaise, just muddling through as was the old Russian way.
But if we need a World War or some conflict of that scale to justify policies elites know are needed to keep the world going and civilization intact, the question is how do we win it this time?
On the eve of WW2, America's industrial might was not even approached by any other power. America could just tsunami any enemy under a giant wave of materiel. This time around we can't do that, and China has plenty of hackers for next gen warfare that would begin (and perhaps end quickly)
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with cyberattacks that could disable every key infrastructure system of a country, especially the US that hasn't firewalled itself off from the world to anywhere near the extent that China has. So natural gas pipelines, rail traffic both freight and passenger, the electric grid, power generation including nuclear plants, banks and people's and business's account balances etc. etc. would be vulnerable to the cyber attacks that would inaugurate the new way of doing war. An entire new Big War could just begin and end online after one country or both or all the belligerents are crippled and barely functional.
Maybe the world elite can work together, like the WEF theorists say, and make a "show war" to scare the world, including today's oligarchs who aren't ready to cede their personal power over to a bigger control system like emerged after WW2 for the world, into submitting to changes needed to clean the slate, revive finances of the ailing developed countries, redistribute the world into power blocs according to the big players' relative might, and perhaps also prevent modern civilization from going down, probably not entirely (at least not yet) but significantly back to barbarism.
Maybe a big stage production World War is possible, and if so, maybe it would be for the best. I'm all ears when it comes to other solutions because we have a big mess on our hands and no true solution will leave our hands clean.
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>Hitler was a great orator

https://youtu.be/Ml22txWypJE



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