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Here follow up to date, OBJECTIVE and UNBIASED numbers with up to 95% accuracy as of the 1st of December 2025

Ukraine soldiers dead - 1 500 000+ (potentially 1 700 000)
Ukraine soldiers wounded - 2 000 000+ (includes around 200 000 amputees).

Number of wounded becomes very hard to judge after they pass a million. Could very well be 3 millions (3 to 1 wounded to dead ratio in most wars) which would not be crazy with pre-war military of 1 million and 25 waves of mobilisation.

Russian soldiers dead - 140 000+
Russian soldiers wounded - 200 000+ (this one is hard to judge for different reasons)

*the Russian wounded are generally in much better state and have less severe injuries than the Ukranian ones thanks to the difference in firepower and the quality of care.

For those brainwashed by propaganda consider two things:
1. Russia has been fighting mostly a defensive war for the past 3 years and now that they are on the offensive the numbers curve doesn't change much due to the quality drop of the opposition, the elite Ukranian units are gone. Attacker takes more casualties than defender usually unless you are fighting an untrained volkssturm.
2. Russia has had a consistent 5 to 1 up to 12 to 1 artillery advantage since the start which translates to 5 to 1 up to 15 to 1 (rare peak) K/D ratio

Also, Russia did 1 wave of partial mobilisation of reservists and has had an average of 1000 volunteers per day for the last 2 years, plus it has added millions of new citizens from the new regions while Ukraine has done 25+ waves of forcefully taken civilians and has lost 50% of its population to immigration. All Russian soldiers in Ukraine are volunteers singing contracts, the regular Russian army hasn't crossed the border (it's astounding the media managed to keep this from its viewers for 3 years).

These are the best numbers you will get not only on /pol/, but anywhere else as well. Yes, I have trawled thousands of sites and channels for this info. No, I will not elaborate.
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>>522628075
lol
lmao even
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>>522628706
truth hurts?
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>>522628075
You'd need to add definitive desertions to that, Ukraine have more deserters than some countries' entire armies
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>>522629587
I have thought about it, but I can't track it reliably. It would have to be speculation and/or based on dubious sources.
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>>522628075
Obviously ukraine has suffered more than a mil casualties, but i find it hard to believe that they could have more than 3+ dead and wounded, beacuse not even the piggers could hide such numbers.

In my opinion the hohol casualties are just around 2 million and arent going to go much higer since ukraine dosent have that many more men at the frontline for the russians to kill anymore. On average a squad of 5 hohols is holding something like 10km of the front.

As for the russian numbers i would have to put them higher to atleast 500k, since they have been on the offensive for 2 years now.
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>>522629802
>beacuse not even the piggers could hide such numbers.

They can't. The graveyards are immense.

>since ukraine dosent have that many more men at the frontline for the russians to kill anymore

The deaths have slowed down due to the lack of frontline numbers, that's true.

>As for the russian numbers i would have to put them higher to atleast 500k, since they have been on the offensive for 2 years now.

They are fighting bussified civilians and they are extremely cautious, prefering to pummel with artillery, glide bombs and drones. Their casualties are extremely low.
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>>522628075
>OBJECTIVE and UNBIASED
and UNSOURCED and MADE UP
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>>522629964
>They can't. The graveyards are immense.
don't know what you're talking about.
there are no such graves comrade
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30k ru sign up every month or used to.
Doesn't mean that many die. They could be in training or deployed in rear, but then that means they have equally massive losses as the ukrainians since they dont use numerical advantage and still use small squads to attack a trench or building where there's usually more ukies than them there. They wouldnt just pay them wages to sit. Maybe theres not enough armor and tanks to do more with the troops on a much bigger scale and they found the sweet spot that works (but is super fuckin slow).
Dunno how many ukropigs are mobilized and snatched per month, used to be 30 to 45k lately ko if we go by rus mod.

I'd say there are close to a mil ukr ded as in doneso casualties. Just a guess. They were always hovering between half a mil and a mil werent they numerically (ukr). Must be also close to half that for russians at the least as well, 500k ded + wounded. doesnt feel like any side has an upper hand when attacking even when considering the russian advantage of everything. They just work slow. Rus defend at the very least as good as ukies or better.

Theres little point in discussing what we dont have as hard info. Uhgniggers are obnoxious though. Ban that general
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>>522630072
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>>522630072
true!!1!
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>>522628075
>source: i made it up
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>>522629703
Are you saying you're tracking their 200 and 300 numbers?
Pardon me if I dont take a bulgarian's word for it (bunch of liars)
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>>522628075
> objective
> source: Medvedev whispered them to me in a dream
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>>522628075
How reliable was that "1.6 m hacker leak" a few months ago, with name and photo of ukranian casualties? It got forgotten really fast...
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>>522628075
*SNIFFFFFFF* bullshit
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>>522630156
why are your bulgarian brothers like this, Trajche?
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>10:1 dead ratio
Seriously? That’s just outright retarded. This must be a troll post or a cope post.
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>>522630183
More reliable than the 16 to 1 in ukr favor or whatever it was spam that got started by drumpft
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>>522628075
So Ukraine took more losses than the entirety of WW2 and r*ssia STILL can't win? What the fuck is wrong with them?
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>>522628706
>>522629165
>>522628075
>>522629802
>>522630068
Why are there such an insane ratio of wounded to killed? Are slavs bad at aiming? Nobody has EVER EXPLAINED THIS. Sure, modern technology means higher chance of survival, but all that goes out the window when you are surrounded in a dirty trench and help can't reach you.
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>>522630068
How's the weather in Ramstein

>>522630120
Russian have massed huge numbers in certain areas. They will never repeat the mistake of letting 100 dudes hold an oblast as they did at the beginning.
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>>522630153
Go watch the BBC then

>>522630156
>Are you saying you're tracking their 200 and 300 numbers?

Yes, for 3 years now.

>Pardon me if I dont take a bulgarian's word for it (bunch of liars)

Calling yourself a liar is weird.
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>>522628075
Double the Russian KIA and I'd agree
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>>522630191
due to these satellite photos russia is since paving over their military graves to hide such losses.
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>>522630183
It was reliable. The data was cross-checked with death certificates and medical records and it checked out. I am not saying it was 100% true, because I have not checked all of it, but what I did see checked out.
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>>522628075
You're delusional. Over 1.2 million Russian soldiers have been killed or injured. Ukrainian casualties are likely in the hundreds of thousands (Russians are being killed at a rate of 14 of them for every 1 Ukrainian killed). Russia is getting btfo'd hard
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>>522630313
or burying them under tree cover
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>>522630237
>my arbitrary time table is not being adhered to, so that means Russia lost
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>>522628075
>OBJECTIVE and UNBIASED
[citation needed]
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>>522628075
random bullshit numbers from literally my ass sound better than anything im seeing itt:
ukraine: 1million+ dead
russian: under 100k dead, still

casaulties are insane to consider. the only question is it Jewtin or not. I think its jewtin. which means the entire thing is quite literally white genocide for new khazaria and literally nothing else. i hope its at least a pro-russian thing........ "hope"... lol....
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>>522630313
>>522630364
>always accuse the enemy of what you are doing

We know the playbook

>>522630359
I hope you are a shill and not a normie that actually believes this, because God save us all if the latter is the truth.
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>>522628075
Ukraine has 60k-100k dead, Russia 200k-250k.
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>>522630366
So wait, r*ssia bankrupted itself, destroyed its entire economy, made butter a luxury product, and it's... why exactly?
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>>522628075
>10:1 k/d in favour of russia, the country noted for it's meat grinder tactics

At least have the balls to post this absolute fucking bullshit from your real ip, vlad
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>>522630068
I LOVE you and DON'T WANT YOU TO DIE. That's why you should oppose the NATO war of aggression in Ukraine.
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>>522630416
>God save us all if the latter is the truth
what's wrong with countless dead russians?
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>>522630183
There was litterally no leak, just a few easily forgeable screenshots in some random telegram channel. Nothing you could download and verify.
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>>522630452
Ukraine 200k dead, Russia 300-400k dead is the conservative number
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>>522630506
Nothing. The more russoloid subhumans die in agony, the better. The world needs more slaughtered russniggers.
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>>522630452
>>522630514
Ukraine lost 40k in Bahmut, 50k in the counter-offensive and 50k in Kurks alone, you are intellectually dishonest
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>>522630458
None of that is true, so if you expect me to engage with your delusional alternate reality you;d be disappointed
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>>522630459
>the country noted for it's meat grinder tactics


Source: CNN, BBC, Englin, etc. You have to be functionally retarded to believe the m,eat grinder bullshit. In reality Russians are extremely cautious.
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Why do you keep saying russia has lost 23 million soldiers?
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>>522630650
>In reality Russians are extremely cautious.

lmfao
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>>522630244
because most soldiers are not surrounded in a dirty trench where help can't reach them
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>>522630696
Sorry that reality doesn't confirm to your delusion, xir
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>>522630416
>always accuse the enemy of what you are doing
i have a few more though
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>>522628075
pretty much correct.
also, the fun won't stop, the "reconstruction" of ukraine will most probably be bullshit. more precisely, only the parts taken by the russians will be rebuilt. because they have the resources to do it while europe doesn't, and usa won't care.
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>>522629165
>>522629703
>>522629964
>>522630152
>>522630255
>>522630283

>13 posts by this ID
ROFL
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>>522630851
Yup. The more land east of the Dnieper is liberated by Russia, the less interest there will be by Blackrock and Big Oil to pour "reconstruction money" into Ukraine since there will be nothing to steal, most resources are in the Novorossiya regions.
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>>522629703
You can take the official prosecution data for desertion as a baseline
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>>522630747
russian assault rifles are designed specifically to be used by hordes of untrained, diposable retards who can't be trusted to maintain them
russian tanks do not have any means to protect their ammunition from a cook off, because russia doesn't give two shits about survivability for it's tank crews
russia's strategy against the nazis in ww2 was basically to use it's people as bullet sponges

russia does not give two shits about it's soliders, vlad and you will learn this when you're eventually thrown on the front line
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>>522630918
>be OP
>don't post
>OMG 1PBTID
>post
>OMG # POSTS BY THIS ID

The most intelligent Polish
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If pidoranny was actually winning, all this shilling would not be necessary.
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>>522630921
>ITS JUST LIKE ANNUDAH SHOAH HOLOCAUSTER MUH 6 GORILLION ХOХOЛC DIED IN PORTABLE GAS CHAMBERS WHILE ONLY VANYA AND BANYA FROM ZADUPOVIETSK WENT OVER THE RAINBOW BRIDGE ON RUSSIAN SIDE
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>>522630929
It's much higher than that, but I can;t verify it. I'll look into it again.

>>522630956
>objective reality
>shilling

No one buys your shit anymore, sorry
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>>522630586
>>522630610
>>522630650
>>522630747
>>522630921
>>522630953
>and then he said KD ratio is 2137 : π
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>>522631005
>objective reality
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>>522631036
>>522631038
>le funny face man
>le gore webm

None of that changes the reality on the ground. Ukraine is closing on 2 million dead and losing land daily without any hope of reversal. You can cope however you like with the facts.
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>>522630610
Butter is not a luxury product in r*ssia? They just lock it into anti-theft cuckcages for fun?
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>>522631097
You are so far gone it should be taught in schools
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>>522630932
oh deary me, you're a spaz ain't ya tomacz
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>>522630921
>there will be nothing to steal
Really faggot, did the plunder of Bulgaria stop at the mineral resources?
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>>522631094
I'm so sorry objective reality makes you butthurt
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>>522630586
sure thing, if you just say more random totally implausible numbers we will believe you
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>>522631094
>None of that changes the reality on the ground.
If there are 3m dead Ukrainians why can't you show entire piles and piles and piles and piles and piles and piles and piles and piles and piles of them like I can of rusnigs?
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>>522628075

embarrassing post, would be a sign of sub-90 IQ if you actually believed it (you don't), anyone who actually thinks Russia hasn't lost more than more men than Ukraine throughout the war is a literal mongoloid retard
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>>522631133
It's what they are most interested in, don't put words in my mouth.

>>522631134
I'm sure posting gore webms will turn back the tide in Pokrovsk. Post some more :)

>>522631140
I don't care if you believe me. I don't care what script what was given to you either. I am doing a PSA.
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>>522631149
I'm not a psycho.

>>522631209
I accept that you are brainwashed and can;t change that.
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>>522631094
>pray for lim x-> ∞ 2^x hohols killed in annudah shoah with 1,5 Russian dead one wonders who suffered a greater tragedy
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>>522631262
I'm sure posting another pidoranny shill thread will make everyone ignore objective reality :)
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>>522631289
But there are 4m dead Ukrainians? Surely with losses exceeding WW2, there would be SOME visual proof?
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>>522631127
>>522631262
>>522631289
>mfw holols freed up 100 gorillion BWCs as donors for tiny pecker Bulgarian chudcels
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>>522631262
>I don't care if you believe me.
>spends the whole thread desperately trying to defend his bullshit in what is now 20 posts and counting of complete cope
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>>522631289

Brainwashed by what? What you are claiming is literally impossible. Ukraine never even had as many soldiers as you claim they lost (and from the context it looks like you are claiming they were outright killed) in Bakhmut for example. If you have been following the course of the war there is no plausible battle or period where the casualties you are claiming could have happened, and you are suggesting they did without any significant visual evidence having surfaced. The war would have been over a long time ago if your claims were a fraction of the truth.
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>>522631330
>>522631373
>>522631381
>>522631448
What a lovely flag display. Did they ping you on discord or what? We are missing the balt...
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>>522630416
>I hope you are a shill and not a normie that actually believes this, because God save us all if the latter is the truth.
What about my post is incorrect?
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>>522631526
All of it. Also, I have no interest in time wasting engagement farmers.
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>>522631517
Since pidors are always lying and projecting I now fully expect pidoranny discord to show up.
Meanwhile you can enjoy more objective reality.
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>>522631517
>ITZ DA COOOOORD ITZ DA COOOOOORD ITZ DA DEAD HOHOL COOOOORD DA CORD
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>>522631517
>What a lovely flag display
you like flags?
here's a few russian ones
it's a fairly old video though. could do with an update
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>>522631553
>jokes on you, I only pretended to be retarded
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The SEETHING is amusing, but deep insdie you know the facts. Ukraine is losing, soon 2 million will be dead. Imagine supporting that.
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>>522628075
Here to laugh at the seething brits, germanoids and nordics
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>>522631728
>SNOPES CONFIRMED HOHOLOCAUST. 120 BILLION DEAD HOHOLS.
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Pretending you don't see it won't make everyone else ignore it too.
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Don't mind me I'm just here for the balkan bantz
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>>522628075
>Russia has been fighting mostly a defensive war
¿¿???
By attacking all the time after the autumn of 2022.
RF has lost way more than Ukraine. Attacker always loses more.
Probably around 300 000, ukr lost around 200 000.

This makes around 200 dead.men per day.
Which I believe it is even too much. RF loses between 50 to 150 per day.200 per day killed is extreme but possible in rate occasions.
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>>522628075
Ziggers have a 10:1 ratio?
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>>522631262
>>522631517
> I don't care if you believe me
> I have no interest in time wasting engagement farmers
> 23 PBTID
Not even the Kremlin would pay some edgy 14 year old boy like you snickering as he types his shitposts into /pol, you're literally doing it for free lmao
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>>522628075
kek
Op just aggroed the whole rancid neovagina called nafo
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>>522631927
>OOOOH OOOOHH AHHHH AAAAAH THROW POOP OOOH AAAH AAAH
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>>522631814
You have to be an imbecile to think that Russia lost more soldiers. Ukraine lost at least 500k soldiers during the 2024 summer campaign alone. And I mean lost as in DEAD. The number of wounded is unknown. Why do you think the western media literally shoa'd the "great summer campaign of 2023"? Because it was an utter disaster.
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Here we go, pidoranny discord arriving.
How very unexpected.
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>Ukraine lost at least 500k soldiers during the 2024* summer campaign alone

2023*
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>>522628075
>2. Russia has had a consistent 5 to 1 up to 12 to 1 artillery advantage since the start which translates to 5 to 1 up to 15 to 1 (rare peak) K/D ratio

It literally just dawned on me, true to a typical jewish fashion, the "globalists" are usually guilty of what they accuse you of. Soe the entire craze about 14:1 KD ratio they spammed here couple of months ago is to muddy the waters when it comes out that the ratio is real but flipped. So then after the war they can say "lol Russia just took our number and flipped it, dumb orc mongoloids".
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>>522628075
>OBJECTIVE and UNBIASED
Sounds like what a disinfo jew would say lmao
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>>522631999
so, who's russia been cremating non-stop, on an industrial scale, for the last year if not their dead soldiers?
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>>522632041
>OP russian shill makes shit up
>russian shill replies treating it as gospel
Gayest war un history
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>>522632041
Of course its all a lie. Same way when I always remind retards here of the "Summer Campaign of 2023". How nobody in the west seems to remember that utter disaster. Where tens of thousands of ukrainian soldiers were left to die because the entire supply line collapsed and people were left to die in no-mans land. Ukrainians ran into minefields, artillery barrages and fortified russian positions.
As I said earlier, there is a very good reson it was quickly shoa'd by the western media and everbody somehow forgot about it.
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>>522632231
Yup.
Most of this retards are from /k/ope which is full of NAFO propagandist.
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>>522632215
I never said that the russian losses are irrelevant. They are high as well but Ukraines losses are unfathomable at this point. How can /pol fall for the fucking lies and numbers of the jewish press and their mouthpieces? Ukraine is on the verge of collapse and the US knows this. Why do you think they want to end their juicy "kill as many russians as possible" war? Because Ukraine is on its dying breath and it would be a disaster for NATO.
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>>522632215
Are these the mobile crematoriums we've heard so much about? Or did they build another Auschwitz (protip: that one wasn't real either)?
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>>522632025

crazy how ukraine lost 500,000 dead over a few months and the russian army was so disciplined as to never use any videos showing the massive piles of corpses in the aftermath of the relentless hohol human wave attacks as propaganda, but were really excited when a couple of western provided vehicles got knocked out and were eager to show that to the world, also crazy that they only lost a fraction of that number in all of their offensives and retreats in the whole war, only 140,000 killed in comparison over 3 years. really makes you think. russians are just really good at war I guess
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>>522632316
russia's own ministry of defense issued more than 3 million benefit certificates, which includes families of dead and wounded soldiers. Back in 2023 they showed over 430 thousand wounded in action veterans, 53% of which were amputees. They stopped publishing statistics after that.

"More than three million electronic certificates of participation in the SVO have been issued.

Russian Defense Minister Andrei Belousov held an interdepartmental meeting to discuss simplifying and expediting the process of receiving social support for special operation participants."
https://ria.ru/20251119/servis--2055928649.html
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>>522632316
Adam Kinsinger summarized Russia today. He said, imagine that the United States invaded Iraq with the operation Desert Storm, and after 3 1/2 years the United States only control 20% of Iraq and have lost more than 1 million men. Would you call that a victory? Would you say that United States is the strongest army in the world? I rest my case. 5 times smaller Ukraine is degrading Russia daily.
Vietnam and Afghanistan were nothing compared to the USA or Russia, but they lost. Why? Entropy (guerrilla warfare) and the desire to not be a slave. Russians know this is not their war, it's Putin ego war. Russians just want to have fun.
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>>522632422
You are blind to the massive graves in Ukraine it seems. Which can be seen from fucking satellites.
Many deaths are not reported to keep up the lie. Ask the hundreds of thousands of ukrainian families why they havent spoken to their husband,fathers,sons etc. for over 2 years now. Im sure not even the ukrainian officials know at this point, how high the casualy rates truly are. Do you think they kidnap people on the streets every single day because things are going jolly for them?
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>>522628075
Imagine dying for Zelensky's golden toilet... KEK.
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>>522632625
Im not glorifying anyone here. Im saying that you are hooraying for a war, you are not invested in. The UK and US lost hundreds of operatives already, but that is nothing compared to what the ukranians have lost and are still losing. Why do you want to keep this war going? Because its not your peoples blood that is getting spilled. You want Ukraine to dry out completely, as long as they take ra russian or two with them. You are not the good guys here. Far from it.
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>>522632364
kek, it's a stationary crematorium near Rostov, which is a border town. This is straight from the russian media, you stupid pidor.

"May 26, 2025. Residents of a Rostov suburb are complaining about the stench coming from a crematorium."
https://rostov.aif.ru/society/zhiteli-prigoroda-rostova-zhaluyutsya-na-von-idushchuyu-iz-krematoriya

"August 2, 2025. According to local residents, the crematorium operates around the clock, and the pungent smoke spreads throughout the area, seriously impairing the quality of life and creating inconvenience."
https://privet-rostov.ru/gorod/117855-donchane-zhalujutsja-na-udushajuschij-zapah-i-smog-ot-krematorija-rostovskogo-kladbischa.html
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>>522628075
how can the attacking force have a lower casualty number by an ORDER OF A MAGNITUDE? you fucking idiot
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>>522628075
>Russian soldiers dead - 140 000+
Kek, there are more confirmed just on social media
www.poteru.net
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>>522632625
So all these ukrainains died to swap out their russian overlords to anglo ones? Where is the good deal here? Where is the supposed "muh freedumbs!" I certainly cant see it!
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>all those seething NAFOggots ITT
Kek, they feel very keenly in their flesh wounds that the end is nigh.
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>>522628075
just take this post and reverse the russian for Ukrainian and you get the truth.
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>>522632922
Or did you all forget how the US is carving out Ukraines ressources already? Zelensky was crucified on Live TV. Extorted in front of the entire world. What did Ukraine fight for in the end?
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>>522632621
how about the time the russian rounded up all the disabled WWII vets that were on the streets. took them on a special cruise, and they never came back.
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>>522632868
It is bad translation it is thrash incenarator. Soldat ar very much bored and produce much trash from waiting Hohol attack so they lot of potato chip and candy all day, which is must admit is not ideal, but what you can do? eh let soldat relax
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>>522632680

There are satellite images showing 500,000 - 1 million+ new graves in Ukraine? ....may I see them?

Wait, Ukraine managed to recover over 500k bodies despite losing the war this badly, incurring casualties that would have ended their existence as a country long ago if it were true....how did they manage that?
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>>522632997
Im telling my daddy IDF that you are being cunt you will have more expensive groceries from tomorrow.
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>>522633356
Wait? You are not retarded enough to actually believe, that the ukrainian losses are only 40k, right? Thats insulting!
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>>522628075
>objective nice
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>>522633635
Again, I've said it for years now. Once this war is over, whever that may be, you will see how the narrative will slowly change.
>Ukrainian losses may have been higher than anticipated.
>Ukrainian losses are MUCH higher than anticipated!
> How the war in Ukraine was bloddier than previously believed.
> How and why were we oblivious to the staggering losses of Ukraine for all these years!?

You'll see. But you couldnt care less to begin with, right?
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Nation started this war by having Ukraine provoke Russia. The whole point was to drain russias resources and reputation in preparation for ww3.

Russia is doing better than we think. Thry want us to think russias doing badly so the peasants feel better about going to war with Russia. If they showed us how Russia was really performing the average normie in west would not have the guts to sign up for war with Russia. They feed us carefully manufactured pieces showing Russia losing and dying to lull us into a false sense of security so we have less apprehension about war with Russia. That way there will be less resistance to a draft. If the average American reliable for draft saw what that war is really like and what Russia can actually do they would shoot the draft officers by the truckload. Our overlords will be sure to keep us in the dark about russias actual war capabilities lest we become too resistant.

All numbers and info coming out of the war is fake.
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>>522633795
Exactly. We are bashing the jews and their lies every single day here. For many years now. Yet in this instance, a clearly financed and orchestrated war by jews, we somehow trust their information and media now?
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>>522633891
But it shows you how much control they still have our our nations. They have perfected the art of perfidity and manipulation to such an extent, that they can create boogeyman out of thin air. And even people on /pol, who think of themselves very highly, are falling for their propaganda. And then you wonder, why things are never changing.
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>>522633795
>Ukraine provoke Russia
>Russia is doing better than we think.
sure thing, pidrila
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>>522633795
That’s why there’s constantly some Russian gore videos thread on here. How many Russians could there possibly be on here that would necessitate that much tiem and effort into demoralization? It’s not for them it’s for you. It’s to condition your mind that Russia is a pushover and fighting them will be easy. Again because If we knew the true extent of Russian war capabilities there would be huge resistance to any war. And with how heavily America is armed this makes draft quite dangerous. America was armed in the 60s and the Vietnam draft went fine but back then people still trusted the gov and military completely. Today American trust in our gov and military is fucking in the gutter.
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Zigger propaganda is so hilariously stupid.

So the Russians have killed the Entire Ukranian Army nearly 3 times over and are still struggling to take medium sized settlements like Pokrovsk?

You can really tell the russians have outsourced their shills to india as their propaganda has became so shit recently.
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>>522634354
>adhere to my subjective timetable or you are not winning

Brilliant mind at display
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>>522631640
>r*ssian graveyard
Fake.
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>>522634195
>Again because If we knew the true extent of Russian war capabilities there would be huge resistance to any war
Such huge war capabilities that they can't even beat their runt neighbor lmao.

You'd shit yourself if NATO actually decided to fucking kill you pidor.
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>>522634354
>Saar it needs to be over within 2 weeks
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>>522634820
>TRILLION HOLOLS DEAD BILLION RUSSIANS HAVE JUST BEEN BORN
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>>522635271
oh no not the scary NATO
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>>522629802
>Obviously ukraine has suffered more than a mil casualties, but i find it hard to believe that they could have more than 3+ dead and wounded, beacuse not even the piggers could hide such numbers.

Because they use the desertion numbers to hide the KIA. If you actually take the Ukranian deserter figures at face value then the deserters are basically as large as the actual military
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>>522628075
>Russia has a 10:1 kdr on the offensive
And your mother wasn't a whore
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>>522632621
>russia's own ministry of defense issued more than 3 million benefit certificates,

Its funny how you faggots will just say anything. Not everyone is as retarded as you
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>>522630484
I wanna see more Russians die. I find it hilarious that Putin essentially started this war out of a demographic panic, believing, he could quickly and easily increase his population by a couple of dozen million people and in reality this war represents the greatest demographic hemorrhage for Russia since WWII.
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>>522635271
Well that neighbor is propped up, funded and armed by almost the entire western MIC. War orchestrated to drain them of their resources and manpower in preparation for a larger war with nato to minimize nato casualties. They won’t let Ukraine just be defeated. Without nato mic support they already would have. Russia has to either completely annihilate them, retreat and risk being counter atta led or keep up this attrition fighting until the world’s political situation changes.

And what I meant about capabilities was the degree of weapon capabilities. They make threads here showing us nonstop webms of Russians getting droned and shot with next to no Ukrainian counterparts. This is to lull us into a false sense of security that Russia is losing and is weak so we wont be resistant to a war. There’s no reason there should be that many Russian gore videos everyday single day to demoralize the whopping 5 Russians on this site. Because it’s not for them. It’s for you. The intended target is you.
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>>522628075
Hard to believe but I can believe it given how deadly technology is.
How terrible for EUssia to have a bad KDR against RUssia
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>>522630152
That's so evil, holy shit
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>>522628075
2 million casualties would be game-changing for ukraine. Ukraine couldn't fight at that point but they still do?
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>>522628075
Roughly correct on the ukrainian claim, very incorrect on the russian claim, they are also above a million.
Did you know Russia uses the war for ethnic cleansing and is secretly on the wests side? Funny huh?
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>>522628075
>>522628075
LOL
LMAO
NEW ZIGGER COPIUM DROPPED
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>>522628075
Bumping for globohomo rage against the truth.
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>>522630244
Artillery and drones, which Russia has a massive advantage over forbthebentire war. Most soldiers in this conflict have never seen the enemy only their shells.
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>>522638946
It's impressive how fast they crawled out of their holes and started with the tired talking points and gore webms immediately
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Lmao at the nafoids seething
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>>522628075
Jeet thread.
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>>522639806
is the jeet in the room with you atm? actually, don't answer that
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>>522639793
They are seething, because it's the truth. If it was propaganda or shilling they wouldn't bother replying.
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>>522637734
Why do you think they are catching random people from the streets and are now officially using women in the front. They have been using very old men for a long while.
The pigstrüm is real.
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>>522628075
>For those brainwashed by propaganda
You have zero self-awareness. All you did is post Russian propaganda like a big fucking retard.
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So i filtered a few nafoid IDs and i got 83 posts filtered.
Funny how hard they spam when they are /k/oping and seething at truth
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>>522639977
Checked
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>>522630956
Are you talking about the constant shilling in favor of Ukraine that's been going on since day one?
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>>522633891
See how the angloid NAFO kike brigade refuse to participate in these posts that point out reality? Typical jew divide and conquer bullshit. I truly feel sorry for all the dead on both sides, forced to fight in this jewish mass sacrifice so these demons can cleanse the land and recreate Khazaria.
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>>522628075
No one counted dead hohols.
Rus side up to 200k now probably.
150-200
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>>522640340
Very, very old graph of the nafoid-russian shill activity in the board. You can see that indeed the nafoid spam has been consistently higher all the way until they dropped to almost nothing and then both sides went on a stable spamming amount. There have been more ups and downs but today's ups are mostly from the hohols.
Also note the massive drop in activity which coincides with the release of the leaked counter /k/opeffensyiv and then the second drop after the hohols accepter /k/opeffensyiv failed miserably. That's when most nafoid shills ACK-themselves.
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>>522640201
>everything I disagree with is Russian propaganda

So you dismiss any possibility of them being right about everything, ever?

Your side also uses propaganda you retard.
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>>522640535
anything* not everything
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>>522628075
Did you pull that out of your retarded gypsy bulgar ass?
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>>522628075
I suspect Ukraine is losing more than Russia and just took their propaganda too far.
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>>522630222
>>522630918
>>522630984
>>522631036
>>522631308
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>>522631985
don't you have a toilet to clean you filthy subhuman
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>>522641214
Let's see your real flag
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>*the Russian wounded are generally in much better state and have less severe injuries than the Ukranian ones thanks to the difference in firepower and the quality of care.
Made me kek. That sentence alone turns this into a Zigger cope thread.
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>>522628075
>Russia has been fighting mostly a defensive war for the past 3 years
>i defensively defended across the border in my armored defense vehicle
how long until this terrible casualty rate of 6 gorillion per day makes ukraine run out of men? 2 more weeks?
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>>522628075
Sounds like bullshit.
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>>522628075
Its around 1 million of KIA + heavy wounded from each side
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>>522641665
Impossible for Russia considering the Donbass Militia + Partial Mobilisation + Volunteers AND comparing it to the currently deployed formations. 200k is pushing it, my number is confirmed by graveyard and obituary data.
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>>522628075
bump
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>>522628075
and yet they have not been able to take over Ukraine
Damn Russian must really suck at war
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>>522641862
I lost a neighbor, two classmates, and two acquaintances. It's 100 km from Moscow, not the poorest region. There are a lot of wounded in hospitals, especially this year.
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>>522642159
You mean you lost a a neyighbor, two classmatyis, and two acquayintances
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>>522642340
I dont understand you, some kind of humor?
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>>522642340
Let me rephrase: my neighbor, two of my classmates, and two guys I knew died in this war. That's too many.
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>>522641665
How is Russia keeping that 1 million figure out of its media?
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>>522642560
I thinks he's trying to imply you're Ukrainian or something due to misspelling
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>>522642992
This is not media, it's word of mouth.
>>522642996
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>>522641665
Based solely on all the images and videos online, I would say that the death toll on both sides is around 150,000 each. The highest number of casualties occurred during the first months of the conflict. Currently, there aren't many deaths on either side each day due to both sides' strategy of massed defense and attacks in small groups.
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>>522643993
If there is 1 million of KIA + wounded, it means around 350k KIA + 650k heavy wounded. Ukrainians have similar casualities
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>>522644341
What do you base the 350k number on, or are you just guessing?
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>>522628075
we need an ethnical breakup as well. what if ukraines soldiers are white, while russians are some mystery meat from mongolia mainly? russia could afford to lose many millions
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>>522644766
>breakup

*breakdown
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>>522644729
As soon as someone even tries to insinuate what an army with more than 10x in weapon advantage which bombs other side barely opposed is losing the same you can instantly accuse its a retard or more likely a shill, these types never show up in organic places only in counter narrative attempts.
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>>522628075
I unironically believe this
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>>522644341
Yes, 350k dead alone seems like a realistic number to me too.
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>>522644729
From the stories of those who were there, this attitude emerges: 1 killed, 2 seriously wounded, 3 lightly wounded (returned to duty). Lightly wounded (a month or two for treatment) are not counted as losses. Information about a million is passed on by word of mouth.
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>>522630576
"said the meme flag, himself very far from the frontline and any danger"
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>>522628075
>32 posts and counting of op playing make believe.
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>>522631097
You can buy butter in Russia, retard.
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Here is the real truth. 14.000.000 million dead Russians. 1.400.000 dead Ukranians. Just saw the numbers on PUTINS DESK.
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Forgot to mention there was a pictur of OP sucking cock.
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There has been only one good thing about this war and that is the amount of western homosexuals who signed up to go there and get meat grinded
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>>522645324
I agree fuck thos suckers going to die for Russia. Lmao they fell for oure propaganda, fucking cucked suckers.
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>>522628075
>Ukraine soldiers wounded - 2 000 000+ (includes around 200 000 amputees).
Many such cases.
>All Russian soldiers in Ukraine are volunteers singing contracts, the regular Russian army hasn't crossed the border
Wait, what? Got a source for that?
Most of those volunteers are reservists, right?
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>>522628075
kys zigger
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The amount of asspain this thread generated is fascinating. Notice all these people jumped in just to rage at OP but none of them attempted to refute the numbers he posted? The body exchanges are a pretty good indicator that Ukraine is taking significantly more casualties, and the reason is obvious, Ukraine keeps funneling troops into pockets and getting them slaughtered. They wasted thousands of troops trying to push into Kursk, got stopped entirely and then proceeded to just throw men into cauldron for months because…PR I guess?

Just remember, if Russia was taking even a fraction of the casualties these people insist on then Ukraine should have zero issues producing a 1000 corpses, but the last exchange they brought 30. So either Russian losses are grossly exaggerated or Ukraine simply doesn’t give a fuck about recovering their “fallen heroes”. Either way it’s a terrible look. Oh and since I mentioned the body exchange be prepared to have a shitload of shills start spamming the thread, it’s their kryptonite.
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>>522629802
> beacuse not even the piggers could hide such numbers.
Why not? Hoholistan is a North Korea tier dictatorship and no western country or media will investigate the matter.
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>>522645934
>waste time refuting the fire hose of falsehood
Why?
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>>522628075
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>522633635
There are a few numbers between 40k and 1-2 million. Russian dead are also not a million. Both are in the hundreds of thousands range, and close to each other. Anyone who thinks Russia or Ukraine lost 1M+ men is just propagandized by their own side.
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>>522633784
This will happen guaranteed
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People seem to not understand my numbers are factual and I have no bias. I am not guessing, I know.
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>>522628075
HIVan go home.
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>>522628075
Kek ok zigger flip those numbers and you have the truth
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>>522628075
Sure, an attacker without a significant advantage in numbers will take 90% less loses than the defender...
XDDDDDDD
what is this niggery?
Some latest RT farts?
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>>522647441
>>522647589
tired old talking points that have been debunked a million times... you are boring
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>>522647589
You are a meat on the front and the attacker is a 3000kg bomb. Who will take more casualties? You may not answer, i know you are retarded by default.
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>>522647712
>uh muh 3000kg bomb!11
and ruskayapizdaya can't hit shit with those UNLIKE HIMARS.
So go be meso some place else and grow some new legs too lol
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>>522645934
>but none of them attempted to refute the numbers he posted?

I say that in reality Ukraine lost 10 soldiers and a dog, and that Russia lost 3 million soldiers, 10,000 armored vehicles and 40 fighters. Do you see that sounds stupid? Nobody is going to take the time to "refute" a number that common sense indicates is false. If Russia had a casualty ratio of 10 to 1, the war would have ended a long time ago, no one can sustain such a prolonged unequal slaughter without collapsing, much less when your enemy has an overwhelming demographic and military advantage over you., Russia would already be in kiev if this was the case.

I don't know the real figure, both sides have more than enough reasons to exaggerate enemy casualties and reduce their own in the "official" counts, but at least I am honest about it. In any case OP made a very low quality Ragebait and a lot of idiots fell for it, which shows that the general quality of pol is in free fall
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>>522628075
Ahh, new Russtard cope just dropped.
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>>522647441
Nah, I don't think so
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>>522628075
Lmfao
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>>522647662
Year 4 of the 3 day smo is coming up comrade you have not been doing very good on desk duty so we are gonna have to send you to get turned into drone kino.
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>>522647957
And yet there is a meat wave after meat wave of baked ukromongols and near zero from the Russian side. If your propaganda worked in reality the muttkraine would not lose 15 to 1 for every Russian.
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>>522630956
More than half those circles dont have bodies in them. How desperate are you AFU types to lie so you can stay out of the trenches???

>>522631038
Oh no, 5 guys died!!!! Russia is losing!!! Oh wait there have to be 500 more every single day to make up that 14:1 ratio.
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>>522631149
Do you not remember the kursk offensive? We saw piles and piles of dead AFU soldiers. We even saw a BMP covered in AFU corpses that was there from day one and they were skeletons by the end.

>>522631134
Oooh another one. Only 499 more for today.
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>>522648277
What even is your point?
Even if they thought it would only last 3 days (which AFAIK isn't true), then so what? What does it change to the current situation?
If the war has been going on for 4 years how is this not an even worse thing for Ukraine? They're the ones that re being occupied. And it doesn't seem like they're ever getting their territory back the way things are going. And they're the ones that need constant financial support, that are running out of men, etc.
I just don't get what the logic there is supposed to be.
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>>522628075
Bumping so more people can have a laugh at OP
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>>522648320
Yet still why is it just the same vid you guys have been posting for two years now..and LITERALLY thousands of vids with russkie meat waves being ANIHILATED?
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>>522648583
Russia has been libwraring hundreds of sq. km every month (500km + in November) for a long time. Ukraine is done. Over.
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>>522648583
Western intelligence agencies convinced the Ukrainians they could easily defeat Russia on their own soil. They convinced the Russians that Kyiv would fall in three days. The Slavic Papuans believed in themselves, and we have what we have.
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>>522628075
rare quality thread
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>>522628706
There was a telegraph article a few days ago: "The Russians forces are running out of equipment. Their soldiers have no uniforms, no helmets no shoes." Imagine the target audience of that. Literal Brits.
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>>522628075
>objective
>numbers coming directly from the Russian MOD
LOL
LMAO even
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>>522630918
retard
>>522630956
>shilling
true numbers posted and every kike and goy came out for damage control
nice pic of dead hohols
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>>522648583
The point is that ziggers are losing bad
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>>522628075
>*the Russian wounded are generally in much better state and have less severe injuries than the Ukranian ones thanks to the difference in firepower and the quality of care.
Russian article in medical journal states
>18 hours average medevac till surgery
>90% amputation rate for extremities if tourniquet was applied for bleeding control
>main method for bleeding control of extremities is tourniquet
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>>522648579
>We even saw a BMP covered in AFU corpses that was there from day one and they were skeletons by the end.
Yes that totally happened in real life and not in your head.
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>>522628075
these numbers are fake and gay
Ukraine has taken about a half a million casualties, and Russia has taken over a million, possibly as much as a million and a half
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>>522628075
your numbers are in line with the estimates of anyone who looks at the facts and not at the propaganda. it is funny how many people are so out of touch with the reality of this war.. puts into perspective why the Europeans are so determined to continue this war, because once it ends, a house of cards of massive proportions is going to fall. it will be interesting to see how these people react when they realize they have been lied to such a large degree.
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>>522649367
Kursk counterhriuk was -50k elite hohols and last of NATO wunderwaffe
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>>522649094
Just like a few years ago when they were down to just using shovels, right?
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>>522649495
the Russian casualty numbers sure aren't.
You don't do extra conscriptions and mobilizations if you're winning that hard.
You don't bring in North Korean soldiers if you're winning by that ratio.

I think both sides have lost well over 1 million.
also "defensive war" lmao
they started offensively. It was an invasion.

OP's figures are pure propaganda from the Russian MOD. Only place I've ever seen a 10:1 ratio in favor of the Russians in all 3 years and they've maintained that figure for the entire 3 years. That's been their cope.
The 14:1 Ukraine advantage is Ukrainian cope and nobody truly believes that either.
The line is practically a stalemate, I would not be surprised if actual figures are close to 1:1.
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>>522649782
You know nothing. You are what happens when the sole purpose of the national mass media is to make everyone dumber.
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>>522649782
the line is a stalemate, and yet Russia outguns Ukraine by a ratio of 15 to 1.. now do the math. they have been consistently progressing very slowly while hammering the Ukrainians with artillery, glide bombs and drones. the Russians have enough people to do sensible rotations and send people back home after a few weeks. it's not just not comparable.
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>>522628075
its 36 ukranian to 1 russian
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>>522628075
cmon, no one actually believes this
ziggers lose truckloads of conscripts in a milisecond and its memoryholed the next day
ukraine naturally should have lower casualties because theyre entrenched and defending most of the time
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>>522647979
>the war would have ended a long time ago

Nonsense, you’re ignoring the fact Ukraine had a large population and the fact the government has been running an extensive draft where they abduct people off the streets and send them off to fight. These casualties are definitely not sustainable, the fact Ukraine hasn’t managed to accomplish a fucking thing in years is a dead giveaway, but it’s not hard to waste lives.

The problem you have is you’re trying to treat the Ukrainian government as if they were logical, they aren’t. If they were being logical they would have realized going to war with a country 5x their size is suicide, if they were logical they would have actually attempted diplomacy instead of basically saying “you won’t do shit” for an entire year before the war started, if they were logical they would have accepted one of the dozen different peace offers Russia sent them instead of going “you give us everything and two trillion dollars! No concessions at all!”. Ukraine isn’t run by sensible people, it’s run by grifters who couldn’t give less of a fuck about Ukrainians along with an entourage of delusional idiots who eat up all the propaganda about Ukrainians digging up the Black Sea.
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>>522649782
They’ve done a single partial mobilization back in 2022. The “conscription waves” you keep hearing about are the drafts Russia does twice a year because all men are supposed to do a year in the army. There’s no evidence draftees are being sent to the SMO, most of them get funneled off to Siberia to sit around in garrisons doing nothing for a year. Now compare this to Ukraine where there’s hundreds of videos of people being kidnapped and forced to fight, also notice there’s none coming out of Russia. The best excuse I’ve heard is the videos are all fake, which is frankly retarded to even suggest but copium is a hell of a drug.
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>>522650072
lol
lmao even
the Russians aren't doing rotations, conscripts are out there for years.
you seem to totally memoryhole the mutiny by Wagner.
The mutiny was done precisely because of high casualty numbers on the Russian side. Pringles said he had over 25,000 dead Wagner in Bakhmut alone.
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>>522650072
and frankly if they were winning 10:1 ratio that line would be up to Kiev by now.
it creeps very slowly because despite numerical advantages the Russians aren't able to progress very well and are taking heavy casualties.
and Ukrainians aren't able to take gains despite western weapons because they're low on manpower and are also taking heavy casualties.
The battlefield says "meatgrinder" and "stalemate"
not "14:1 advantage to Ukraine" nor "10:1 advantage to Russia". Both of those figures are fucking copes and propaganda.
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>>522653110
in this war the ground taken has little value and is not the main objective, russians wants to deplete ukranian manpower thats it, you might have heard of denazification(kill the kosher nazis).
the 14:1(ru) ratio might be kinda high but 10:1(ru) is pretty much confirmed at this point, there were leaks from both sides and if you watch both piygger vids and russians ones there a big difference
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>>522655171
both those absurd ratios are propaganda from either side.
The actual battlefield results show more of a stalemate and zero sum.
Russia had more ground and had lost it after a year in the war, but Ukraine's further counteroffenses have been ineffective and Russia makes snail pace gains.
>it's about muh denazification
then why does every single Russian "peace plan" involve taking more ground than they currently control?
Using a VPN doesn't fool me Ivan.
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>WAAAAH, NOBODY IS PARTICIPATING IN OUR TROON-FRIENDLY /UHG/ THREADS, PLEASE SOMEONE COME INTERACT WITH US, WE HAVE DRONE GORE APLENTY
Still not clicking it.



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