Its over for nvidia china don't need your chips jensen
>do nothing>lose
>>523195266based. THE SINOMAN MARCHES ON! SINO PRIDE WORLDWIDE.
Isn't the restriction only for H200 in government run datacenters? They do this shit all the time with tech.
>>523195266why would they need nvidia now that they got project: Strix Halo that AMD researched with Huawei and making them with their new home grown EUV fabs at SMIC?why do you think they are buying up all the DDR5 right now? because the new Strix Halo chips can use their CXL tech break through that can support RAM up to petabytes, unlike nvidia shitwell h200s that shit all over itself the moment that you try to use anything over 64GBlike I keep telling you retards since last week, have fun with AI bubble burst in the west
Of course they don't want sabotaged chips. Who accepts the cup offered by your enemy?
>>523195778On paper, it's banned only for state run data center, however the signal it sends is, if you dare import this, you better have a damn good reason. When the CCP moves, everyone in China listen, including the private players.It's a soft ban, so they can say we didn't actually ban it completely. There have been 0 sales of the H800 according to Nvidia since China put restriction on it, I don't think this will be any different. Nvidia took a huge write off on that last quarter.
>>523195966>like I keep telling you retards since last week, have fun with AI bubble burst in the westAs if it won't burst in Chine as well lol
>>523195266HAHAHHAHATwo arrogant retards fucking torpedoed at once.That's an epic BTFO.Now the Nvidia circle-jerk fraud with OpenAI + Oracle + Microsoft will be revealed.
>>523195266Didn't fat jesus' documentary show the complete opposite of this claim?
>>523196202Money going into AI in China is 10x less than the US. They mainly focus on improving efficiency of their model, so they can do it with less compute.
>>523195966> Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. (AMD) is an American multinational technology company headquartered in Santa Clara, California, with significant operations in Austin, Texas. It develops central processing units (CPUs), graphics processing units (GPUs), field-programmable gate arrays (FPGAs), system-on-chips (SoCs), and high-performance computer components. AMD serves a wide range of business and consumer markets, including gaming, data centers, artificial intelligence (AI), and embedded systems.Neat AMD is US company.
How many backdoors have those chips?
Oh no that just means they'll have to start selling them to us for a discount due to supply surplus!
>>523195266They were actually just caught smuggling millions of dollars worth of Nvidia chips into China. China wants the world to think they don't need nvidia chips, but they clearly do.
>>523195266China already reverse engineered the chips
>>523196319>Money going into AI in China is 10x less than the US.It could be by virtue of this:>By mid-2025, China accounted for approximately 40% of the world's publicly released LLMs (1,509 out of ~3,755), with most under permissive licenses like Apache 2.0 or MIT, enabling free use, modification, and distribution.
>>523196648does the article mention that all those LLMs are jeet style copy pastes of the same 3 models?
>>523195266Why doesn't China want to depend on a hostile country to manufacture their high end electronics, are they stupid?
>>523195266china eating our lunch is a well deserved bit of contrapasso
>>523196771Good thing American tech companies don't use jeets
>>523196626or the kikes sold them the designs.
>>523196626>China already reverse engineered the chipsNo, gaslighter.Huawei has invested $20 B since 2019Huawei's CANN toolkit is a from-scratch alternative to Nvidia's CUDA
>>523196202china and amd are not part of the AI bubble circle jerk>>523196444you can pre-order the framework desktop with the cpu/gpu right now, it just won't have the CXL tech in it, but it is usb4 ready to hive link systems at slower speed
All you kids don't remember that this exact same shit happened in the 80s with Japan. In the end, we swindled the Japs out of trillions and they have been living on the edge of bankruptcy for decades. This will end the same way for China. We have Jew power on our side, rest assured, we will Jew the Chinks in the end.
>>523195266China bros stay winning
>>523196648theyre not charging people for the AI? how can the economy grow if the AI is free?
>>523196771>copy pastesYou Jews tried this shit when DEEPSEEK dropped, but the true beauty of Open Source is that your accusations didn't hold any water, once the code was forensically analyzed.Idiot.
>>523195266>Pulls Navy ships outside China>You will buy our graphics cards>You will generate the porn with them>You will build weapons with them
>>523197033>how can the economy grow if the AI is free?I'm not doing your analysis and homework for you.Ask an AI...
>>523196648WAN and Z-Image Turbo are pretty great desuShame I have to publicly denounce Taiwan every time I hit generate
>>523196254He's a woke incel. Fuck him
>>523197168Wonder which platform that Trump uses for his shitposting...>it ain't American paywalled shit...What a clown.
when will usa stop losing against china?
>>523196254It's the scope of the operation. Smuggling millions in GPU I might sound like a lot, but then you realize it's like 0.1% of AI expenditure when they're project to spend several tens of billion. Chinese company that want Nvidia compute, rent it from foreign data center like Singapore, under a shell company. Smuggling is mainly to supply the very small start ups.
>>523195266They have their own Nvidia called Moore Threads.They don't need no US tech anymore
Also: another Trump LIt's incredible how fucking humiliated he is on the world stage. US had become a laughing stockpile thanks to him
For real, american chips have spyware/espionage.Nvidia, amd, intel, qualcomm, apple, etc. Even Samsung chips had to implement esspionage to remain legal in muttmeria.
>>523196254His documentary showed that China could get as many chips as they want, but don't see a need to, because nvidia cards are only desired by gamers.
>>523195266>Be only nation not actively trying to burn itself to the ground>win by not dying as fast as everyone else
Does this mean that GPU prices are going to come down?Of course not.Even if China buys zero GPUs, US government is going to print infinite money to prop up the market and the scam companies can buy up all supply regardless.This AI bubble shit is going to go on for couple of years longer at bare minimum.
>>523195266This thread smells like rotten sesame oil.
>>523196175holy copium
>>523195266Kind of dumb move on xi's part because the chink chips don't hold a candle to anything nvidia makes as far as compute goes.They're fine for inferencing. But if they want to keep training foundational models nvidia is kind of still all there is.
>>523200897But when AI bubble burst there is plenty GPU's available...used and new because too much production capacity.
>>523197095>you WILL participate in our gimmick-based economy or you WILL be subjected to the full military arsenal of the free world
>>523202914>chink chips don't hold a candle to anything nvidia makesThey can put 1 million chinese chips in parralel.They electricity costs would still be cheaper.Oh by the way, the american propaganda apparatus helped Nvidia kill Canadian ATI until they became so weak that AMD(american) purchased them for cheap.How do you feel about that, Leaf?
>>523197033Autists are the most powerful people on the planet, only China has acknowledged that. Deepseek and other Chinaman AI models are free or freemium because they allow jobless autists to build on their technology and advance their AI tech stack for free. It means even 1 in 1 billionth of the pajeets that are actually competent coders (but are poor as shit) can use their tech and develop something useful.It's a tech development multiplier; the jews are obsessed with short term profits and therefore don't see the long term benefit of freeware.
>>523203336Extremely butthurt, but then again our government doesn't actually care about supporting our local industries. We sold our fiber optics tech to China too under similar conditions.Saddest shit ever.
>>523203336>>523203980Quick someone report them to the king of Canada!
>>523203980>We sold our fiber optics tech to China too under similar conditions.China's state propaganda didn't sling shit at them for 2 decades to lower their stocks.This is what the americsn State propaganda did to Canadian ATI.Officially they sling propaganda for the US government, but unofficially this same propaganda infrastructure offer their services to american corporations too, the ati situation was their #1 master pieces.>Extremely butthurtI just thought it was funny ohw you wanked off Nvidia, they are actually the #1 culprit behind ati's death. They were the ones with the funding for the decades of slandering.
This is undoubtedly because they want to continue their pursuit of full stack independence, including lithography and in-house architectures
>>523195266They know they are better off developing domestic production in the long run.
>>523204684if that happens, US is going to be doomed
>>523195266>Everyone and their grandmother knows the US economy is tied so deep into Nvidia it's retarded>China is at (peacetime) war with the US>"C...CHINA WON'T BUY THE CHIPS?!"Now I don't like gooks, but this isn't any surprise, at all.
>>523204889USA lost to china long time ago its over
>>523204898Unironically if this was 2017 China, they would have gladly purchased american chips, despite this>>523199327This is because the capitalist traitors in Shanghai successully convinced everybody it would be more profitable to be dependent on Usa.Then.... Trump officially launched the chip war against those same capitalist traitors in Shanghai.When this happened, the globalists in China lost all momentum, nationalists took control.Now China wants its own asml.its own tscmits own Microsoftits own amdits own appleits own Samsungetc.
There are humans on this earth who can only process news in this retarded nigger like manner CHINA JUST SAID NO WAYAMERICA SAID UHHHHHH HUH
>>523196954Japan shot themselves in the foot with the plaza accords. China is dumping USD and US treasuries so they'd have to pulla 180
>>523204395Pretty much no company, or country for that matter, in North or South America is allowed to be successful outside the USA. That's the real consequence of living within the USA's sphere of influence. Same thing happened to Bombardier, which forced the sale of its commercial jet operations to Airbus due to Boeing complaining that they couldn't compete. The 737Max crashes were practically divine retribution.
>>523195266>China lost because a Chinese man won???
>>523195266Will be buying a Chinese gpu if I ever decide to upgrade
>>523196890Doesn't the trump deal go >Invent a problem that wasn't there>Wait for it to fuck everything up>Remove the thing you created >Claim victory when things go back to how they were>Low IQ /pol/ posters celebrate the brilliant 4d chess move
>>523195266>Mario Nawfal>China saysThis is just cope beceause China has a more free market than Muttland and nobody has to buy Amerimutt state backed nvidia monopoly shit>>523196890>>523207472I dont understand how Amerimutts still associate Zognald with "The Art of the Deal" considering its an established fact that some Jew jouranlist wrote it and Trump just crossed out some comments that could hurt him or his colleagues
>>523196254When it comes to political opinions he is literally retarded. He needs to stay in his lane.
>>523195266good. i will take them. $50 each.
Very good what China is doing to Dutch traitors. Expose them all.Fuck them.Long live China, Long live Holland.Death to traitorsHurray
I thought we were in a desperate race for AGI. What happened?
>>523195266he should be like ok, our 2025 H400 chips are just about ready and they shit all over your 2020 technology homegrown shit servers, have fun using 5x the electricity to match what we were doing 5 years ago.
Don't trust these so called new 'Dutch'. Arrogant french faggotsTrue Dutch love Chinese and trust China and have good feeling with China ^^
>>523195266Please, let this be the final bubble.I've been waitfagging for so long, please.
>>523195266China has all the cards, yup yup
>>523197039DeepChink isn't open source, it's open weight
>TRUMP SAID "GO AHEAD">BUT CHINA SAID "NO THANKS"This is such a juvenile way to write, it's like something you'd read in some dystopian fiction where the news has been dumbed down to keep people from developing an intellect.
>>523195266I'm sure they already stole the design moments after Nvidia finished it.
>>523213189BI HAO COMRADEYES WE LOVE CHINESE GUYSSUCH BIG BUSSINESS MENAND HUGE PENISESCHINA NUMBA WAN!!!Q!
>>523195266It's over for the US burgers and their Putinist ally.The Future is China + EU = Global Superpower.
>>523213879>open weightYou can still modify the Inference Code to perform some very powerful Tool integrations and model merging, etc.Piss off, angry jew.>but but but, they just gave it all away!!!!!
>>523195266Keep coping fag:China's tech giants move AI model training overseas to access Nvidia chips, FT reportshttps://www.reuters.com/world/china/chinas-tech-giants-move-ai-model-training-overseas-tap-nvidia-chips-ft-reports-2025-11-27/
>>523213879The only difference here is that Deepseek doesn't give away their training data. However, Deepseek has already been distilled, studied, and taken parts by labs all over the world, and China models are more competitive than ever, with the entrance of Kimi K2, GLM4.6 and the latest Qwen. Deepseek is still very active in the cutting edge research side and publishes their work for everyone to read.
>>523214735>Keep coping fagYou and Sam Shekelberg are the ones panicking.>SHIT!!! I didn't get to monetize and Rug Pull!!!Bwahahahaha
#goldenageI thought chinks were your new friends? >>523214585Unironically this I can sense it.
>>523214735SAAR
>>523211860They're trying to dodge getting caught in forcing everyone into SaaS by monopolizing supply. Think GM buying up all the trolleys to replace them with busses but 1000% worse and extremely damaging (and DANGEROUS) to the economy. Things have gotten too centralized already, putting all compute on remote servers is such a savagely stupid idea on a civilizational level its hard to comprehend. These arrogant jewish shit eaters behind this plot belong in prison.
>>523214585But EU don't even make anything. You guys just getting by.
>>523196626lol, sure buddy
>>523203064>>But when AI bubble burst there is plenty GPU's available..lol nope.Nvidia anticipated this. Ever since the 80GB version of the A100 years ago they started selling their datacenter GPUs on contracts that require datacenters to return them at the end of their life cycle (where Nvidia will no doubt shred them to prevent them from affecting the GPU market price).
Will you look at that. Tariffs work in countries with governments not designed to primarily transfer wealth and power to Israel.
Elsa B. Kania are you in this thread?I would appreciate your insight, ma'am.Also, you're the most attractive woman on Earth, in case you didn't know that.<3Close race with Cristina Gomez though.
>>523195266Xi has Orangeman by the balls.
>>523196626That's not how it works anon. You can't reverse engineer semiconductors. Its not hard to figure out what it is made of, the real difficulty is HOW you made them. The processes have to be accurate on atomic level
>>523205380I want that too because I'm tired of Israeli spyware. I don't even care what chinks do with the data from their spyware, so long as jews don't get it.
>>523195266They did all that for nothing how embarrassing
>>523196873I mean, Israel absolutely sells American military tech to China at any opportunity but it's usually backstabbing CEOs and stupidity that gets Western tech to them. China's entire jet engine program is based on a UK firm selling production rights for an outdated plane to them. The US let them buy up the patent holder for sodium batteries. The UK is currently handing them a borderline defunct electronics firm that owns a mountain of patents. China's native x86 production has a similar origin. I'm sure whatever gains they're making on GPU production is the same.Regulatory capture and corruption is so pervasive in the West that our biggest adversaries can just walk up and buy state secrets legally. It's a fucking joke.
>>523215182>prisonOcean
