Map of the Ukrainian fortifications (in yellow).How is Russia going to do it?
about 5000 russian meat per fortification
very slowly, with enormous losses, and capturing only rubble that will never be rebuilt, same as the rest
>>523348074not how but when.
Obviously the current military paradigm favours the defender. Hence, Russia is leveraging it's size advantage over Ukraine by committing to attritional warfare, which implies prioritising incurring personnel losses on the enemy rather than capturing ground.
>>523348074like this
>>523348074Same way they've been doing it. Use drones and artillery to suppress and kill the defenders, and use glide bombs to destroy strongpoints. >>523348442Defenders and attackers have both always held the same advantages relative to one another. The defender can leverage the terrain better while the attacker can choose where to concentrate force. The historical advantage of the attacker has no diminished, and the AFRF is leveraging it quite efficiently.
>>523348074>>523348190lmao, absolute state of comminoids Imagine throwing away countless lives for some shitty mined land
>>523348074Sneak from here. Success.
>>523348074>How is Russia going to do it?It won't, it doesn't have enough bodies.However it's possible that China could send a couple million troops to do it for Russia.
>>523348074Like always
>>523348074Map looks old.
>>523348074By bullying ukraine into signing the peace agreement and giving up those lands for free.
>>523348074Cool so pay attention when pavlohrad get encircled in 2032 got it.
>>523350361So a million more dead ziggers for captured mined farmland. Got it, amazing what narcissist Russians will subject themselves to instead of just admitting the war was a mistake.
>>523350027Agreed, but have to remind that in war games, its usually the attacker who is the victor.Why? Because the first moments are decisive and the training doesnt last months to years.Momentum and suprise trump everything.
>>52334819014:1
>>523348074Repeatedly attack where your enemy is strongest. Then retreat.- Russian Art of War
>>523348074>>523348074>>523348074>> LOSES 1-2 MILLION RUSSIANS >> FOR ANOTHER 10% OF EMPTY DESTROYED LAND ONLY THE RICH PEOPLE IN RUSSIA WILL PROFIT FROM THIS WAR. KEK. NONE OF THE TRILLIONS IN RARE EARTH MINERALS WILL GO TOWARDS ORDINARY RUSSIANS. IT'S OVER ANONS
>>523352161Interesting numbers but i just dont understand the relevancy?
>>523352161>>523352161>>523352161FIXED THAT FOR YOU INDIAN BOT ANON, SEE YOU IN THE NEXT THREAD. RENT FREE.
>>523351898"A million more" casualties are possible if EU goes all in and send all the remaining whites, but since it won't happen casualties will be minimal
>>523352547>>523352547>>523352547HE IS INDIAN XD
>>523348074>How is Russia going to do it?Like this.
>>523352608>>523352608>>523352608ANON RUSSIAN IS GETTING BLACKED 1-2 MILLION INDIANS ARE COMING YOU STUPID RETARD YOU PLAYED YOURSELVES ENJOY THE NIGGERS DO RICH RUSSIANS HAVE TO LIVE AROUND THE CHURKAS??? LIKE IN AMERICA??? DO THEY HAVE GATED COMMUNITIES. KEK
>>523352608You even you believe you own retarded bullshit, this is why everyone laughs at you snow jeets
>>523348074That's either not up to date or pure copium.That defensive line north to Guliaypole is taken, which opens up operational space north to the whole southern line. Pokrovsk is taken, Mirnograd in cauldron and gettin cleaned up. Seversk is taken. Pliers around Liman are tighter. A lot of those mega defensive line on paper are getting taken with much less effort now, because of huge problems with manpower. Huge losses, hundreds of thousands desertions OFFICIALLY. Demoralisation overall, because majority of army today are forcefully busified. Plus the scandals with shit like golden toilets of some kike don't help.Also those map don't detail old defensive lines so much, because they are irrelevant at this point. But they were no less significant than those in Slaviansk-Kramatorsk agglomeration.
>>523352708Where are 10 million of Ukrainian males that Indians are supposed to replace? They're all dead
>>523352823>>523352823>>523352823>> NO YOU SAR >> IT'S YOU SAR YOU SILLY GOYIM. I TOLD YOU RUSSIANS TO WAIT TO INVADE. NOW YOU'RE GOING TO COLLAPSE WITH THE WEST // ZION DON. YOU'RE NOT SAFE YOU ALL THOUGHT YOU WERE SAFE FROM AMERICA COLLAPSING. YOU SILLY GOYIM. SILLY LITTLE G O Y
send meatwave after meatwave. lose a million men and gain a village of 20 babushkasits the russian way
>>523352768I live here, have friends on frontlines, all alive and slaughter hohols daily thx god.You're kike across the ocean, your word worths nothing against mine on this matter
WIGGERS OF EVROPA THE REAL SLIM SHADY
>>523352335Do tell us from where has Russian armed forces retreated since 2023?
Why didn't Russia knock out all critical infrastructure and C and C in Ukraine with missiles, air power and drones 3 years ago? They don't have the capabilities to do this or they are retards?
>>523348442bon appetit>>523349436why's there an indian just standing there?
>>523352924>>523352924>>523352924S A R IAM THE WINNING SAR >> TRUMP IS DOING THE 4 DIMENSIONAL CHESS Q PREDICTED THIS AT THIS POINT ESTONIAN ANON IT'S JUST PATHETIC // SAD TO WATCH XD THEY ARE NAIVE SUB-HUMANS
FYI the all caps spammer is a Turk or some other Sunni nigger who has saved images of beheadings of the French teacher critical of Islam
>>523352934sure thing HIVan. take your aids meds if you can afford them
>>523352120>Agreed, but have to remind that in war games, its usually the attacker who is the victor.I pointed out that the attacker has an inherent advantage.>Why? Because the first moments are decisive and the training doesnt last months to years.>Momentum and suprise trump everything.That's not why, or at least it's not the main reason why. The real reason is because the attacker has the initiative, they can decide where to attack and how they will do so, the defender has to defend everywhere against every possible threat, thus dispersing their resources. A well prepared defender can hypothetically invest huge amounts of resources into defense, and their preparations can of course take advantage of or even create new positional advantages, but they are still do not have the initiative. Hence why attackers almost invariably take fewer casualties than defenders, contrary to the popular claim to the contrary.
>>523352605>acktually this photoshop...TOPKEK!have any lefties used that meme unironically yet?
This war and the meaningless loss of so many human lives make me so sad.
>>523353103is this a helmettard post?
>>523352605Wild. Is throwing lives of your men in exchange for some bombed commie blocks such a good deal?
>>523353029Amazing how pic with nude titties gets you banned, but wipe like this is not.
I love to see dead hohols
>>523348074>How is Russia going to do it?very very very fucking slowly and like 150k dead vatniks at a time
>>523353103>>523353103>>523353103>> JEWISH GHETTOS CAME BEFORE NIGGER GHETTOS >> AMERICA & RUSSIA DEGENERATES AFTER THE JEWS TOOK OVER WELL WELL WELL, WELL WELL WELL --- CLOCKWORK ORANGE, PROBABLYZOOM OUT ZIGGERFAGGOT SUBHUMANS XD
THE GOY MAN GAVE UP RESPONDING TO ME RUN AWAY LITTLE CHILD, YOU STUPID ZIGGERZOGBOTFAGGOTZIONIST
>>523353163cool it with the antisemitism bro
>>523348074Very slowly over the course of another 700 years and with 1 million dead russniggers per year.3 day SMO by the way.
>>523353165>>523353165>>523353165ASK THE RUSSIANS. AMERICANS DIED IN THE MIDDLE EAST SO MUSLIMS COULD RAPE AND STAB THEIR KIDS. OY VEY GEVALT. THE GOYIM ARE NOT OKAY ANONS. THE NORMIES SIMPLY ARE NOT OKAY.
>>523352703>3 years later and 4 million zigger lives lost>we defeated nato blyat and saved rossiya
>>523352972>since 2023Why not since 2022?
>>523348074same as alwayssomeone has to lose and they are bigger
>>523353339noted child abuser and scat fetishist helmet "fucking" tard
>>523352934>all alivepizdezh
>>523353156It's just hard to end the war.What Zelensky should do afterwards?Economy is ruined, no people to work, territories lost. He needs anything to call it as even small "victory". The West has promised suh a bright future for Ukraine, they will be killing themselves en-masse finding that all of that were simple lies.They're striving to get this russian assets as well, because nobody going to return to a country that lost and destroyed.In this case, it's better to decrease population of Ukraine to numbers that EU could finance entirely, and this is his plan B
>>523353178Hilariously half of /uhg/‘s bakers are fucking Sunni niggersThe Brit is a Turk who has saved caches of Chechen war jihad beheadings The Ukrainian who didn’t get jumped by TCC is an atheist who’s anti christian Two German Turk mutts The Canadian is a mulatto This faggot is under an American flag on a vpn, he is most definitely a disgusting Turk
>>523353504
>>523353576yes, we have already heard the legally required "opinion". what's your actual opinion?
>>523352924Where’s the pictures or videos of thousands of russian bodies piled up in mounds? All I ever see is videos of at most a handful of soldiers being taken out at a time. There’s not one single video of a meat wave getting massacred. There’s not one single photo of a giant pile of corpses.
>>523353461>Kharkov counter offensive Overhyped, 50,000 subhumans against an inferior force of separatists who advanced too quickly >KhersonVoluntary withdrawal from inferior force of Russians with strained logistics They didn’t enter the city a week after Name me on Ukrainian victory since 2023
Re:@523353798>Voluntary withdrawal
>>523352972oddly russian grammar
>>523350361
>>523353915Yes, the Russians themselves retreated over strained logistics The subhuman hohols feared the city was a trap for a week >>523353916That’s ok, doesn’t change the fact /uhg/ are a bunch of faggot tourists who couldn’t get rid of /UG/ oldfags
>>523349436beautiful
>>523353258Wait, they took all our taxes and weapons and lost even more ground?
>>523353086You just spent longer to say the same thing, for no reason; since i already admitted i agree with you.>>523352637Is this what this place is now?Is no one really interested having a conversation here anymore? Its just /b/ with extra steps and no "would you fuck my gf" threads? Sad.
>>523352934>I live here, have friends on frontlines, all alive and slaughter hohols daily thx god.>You're kike across the ocean, your word worths nothing against mine on this matter
>>523349436It's like that period in late ww1-early ww2 with the ugly tanks.It sucks. New generation when?
>>523354355>You just spent longer to say the same thing, for no reason; since i already admitted i agree with you.I absolutely did not. What you said was fucking stupid and entirely wrong in its derivation while only accidentally coming to a correct conclusion. If you think what I said can in any way be distilled to "surprise" or "momentum" then you're a drooling mental defective. In fact momentum is a property more on the side of the defender than the attacker in most battles.
>>523348190>russian meatWhat a zionist thing to worry about
>>523348074the same way they did to others
>>523348074NAFO trannies will deny same as before, i lost count alreadyit was not strategically important anywaybut butthurt is delicious
>>523348074So another 4 years and maybe they'll finally grab all of donesk?
>>523355204>memeflag>crying about "NAFO"
>>523353576Seems like a lot of ukranians actually got exactly what they wanted, a ticket out of that country - which they're never coming back to.
>>523355252your butthurt is delicious lol
>>523355034They burned through more than 60% of their long-term accumulated savings to get to where they are now.So how are they going to keep that up?
>>523355330>memeflagshills who hide their flag don't matter, sorry
>>523353576>russian idiot>trying to belittle others over "failed economy"lol you are literally on the brink of stagflation igor.
>>523355404>>523355337>>523355458so much butthurt that you cant contain yourself in 1 post LMAOLOL
Don't worry they'll sacrifice at least 10 million men. They can easily replace all of those with indians.
>>523355458Yet they aren't. Stay mad though.
>>523353400and won an alllyear icefree harbor on Crimeamost productive land in the worldressources in those mines8 Mio new Russiansrespect in the entire worldmilitary contracts for the next 50 yearsa new world order
>>523355685>memeflagdiscarded
>>523355843Sound like your nation. Lmao.
>>523355891Why is a fucking Nigger talking to me?
>>523355851>mindlessly and hopelessly claiming the contraryTextbook idiot.No investment, high inflation, extremely high interest rates and a large volume of returning soldiers to the civilian sector with limited jobs.Continue deluding yourself at your leisure, igor.
>>523355958Lmao
>>523348074pootin needs two more weeks to decide, and thee it's three-days-to-kiiieeefff
>>523353156Me too.These death webms really ruin my mood
>>523352934If you have a sister or mother, know that after the war, when you failed country goes back to 90's level of begging, i will come, tell them in romanian "give coat and watch" (try to learn it now "paltonul si ceasul") and then proceed to fuck them. I will think of all the pidorposts i've read while doing it.
>>523348442Damn Iliana you write to well to be a Ruskie. You should defect and make use of your writing talents for something the benefits humanity. Romcoms are always hot. Kpop hits. You could make millions as a maga shill!
>>523352934Fuck you, pidor. My second cousin gone missing on 15th day after signing contract.
>>523348247This cope will never not be funny.
>>523356052lmao 40% chance you aren't white. ooph
>>523356224what happened to "kiiieef-in-two-weeks", pidrila?
>>523356252Lmao
>>523348074Something like that
>>523356388Nice time stamp new fag.
>>523356437Lmao x2
>>523353576I don't want anyone dying , but what is this cope video ? Do they really believe that shit
>>523355975>No investment Wrong>high inflationBarely above average >extremely high interest ratesJust high, continues to decrease>limited jobsOne of the lowest unemployment in the worldTl;dr update your copedex
>>523348190Send the next wave
>>523352608Anon, the EU has 5x your population...
>>523356914>mindless denial without any dataTextbook idiot.Continue deluding yourself at your leisure, idiot.
if only you kids fought as hard IRL as you did on the internet.....
>>523348074>No BelgiumImpossible.
>>523356207Sorry for your loss anon.He was a retard for joining but you at least seem to regret it and I don't with it upon anyone.
>>523356530Well done.
>>523357042Post your data first, dumb brownoid>inb4 not kiiv independent
>>523357416Why would I idiot? I'm not the one stupid enough to claim Russia is attracting investment when the vast majority of western businesses have pulled out. The onus is on you to prove they are receiving investment on anywhere near the same scale as pre-war.Russia has funded their war with long-term accumulated savings from selling oil and gas to europe. They have burned through more than half of those savings, and their capacity to generate revenue from sales to europe is heavily neutered.>c-china is buying!At nowhere near the same rate, which is why russian gas companies have been kvetching so much during negotiations.When 20%+ of government spending is allocated to disposable assets (artillery etc) that is money down the toilet. It doesn't magically come back you laughable idiot, and Russia is unable to make it back.
>>523356530Still waiting for you to explain yourself for defending russia dumb nigger. Also why is your country almost 50/50 black white?
>>523356207Sure thing, pidor mongolmutt. Now take your asian and arab genes and go back to the mongolkraine where your mutt kind belongs.
>>523357832>Post the most blatant and mindless propaganda with no sources >The onus is on youDon't like moot, but he was right on aussies
>>523357161Lmaox3You a wee lad
>>523358086>r-russia is getting p-plenty of investment! just trust me!Total moron.
>>523357852I don't need to defend Russia I just hate Ukraine. Just cause you want to go down in flames with them doesn't I'm following for some jew.
>>523358181>I don't need to defend Russia I just hate Ukraine. Just cause you want to go down in flames with them doesn't I'm following for some jew.
>>523358121>Still no dataI accept your concession
>>523358088LMAO U.S WHITES WILL BE MINORITY THIS CENTURY AHAHAHAHA
>>523358181Mate you're a wrong'un. You sit in the dark and use notepad with a white background like some fucking gremlin, Go to the doctors and get a free brain sca- oh no wait you have to pay for that JEJ
>>523358266Well you enjoy going bankrupt with them I guess. You are the only country currently at least on the hook for all your loans to them. Everybody else used actual military aid budgets, but not you lmao. Talk about stupid decision.
>>523358287>hopelessly claims the contrary that russia has no inflation and gets plenty of investment despite losing the european market>no data to back that upHopeless little idiot :)
>>523358401You're a complete moron though, and clearly have zero clue what you're talking about.
>>523353086The problem with the heavy use of drones for the attacking side, is that the entire battlefield is under surveilancw. The concentration of forces without allowing the defender to deploy mobile reserves to counter is very difficult. Tanks can't be used to break through to strategic depht either, because they get droned. The only real option, which I think Russia is doing now to good effect, is isolate strongpoints without encircling them, making Ukraine commit reserves to small areas, and afflicting casualties on them to weaken the whole front. But I think they'll have to do it until the Ukrainian Army collapses, which can take years. And hundreds of thousands more dead...
>>523348074hope they fortified Stinky
>>523358368You saw my actual hand above that one though are you like a retard?
>>523358415Lad, we don't use emoji here
>>523358401>I won't go bankrupt helping Ukraine!>I'm already over 40 Trillion in debt!>just gave 160 billion dollars to men who love to larp as military personnel to run around catching tax paying latinos whilst i shit post on a basket weaving forumKEK>>523358497where in my post does it say i didn't see your fat fucking hand you cretin?
>>523357092kek, it takes you pidors over a year to take each village and small town, loosing tens of thousands per settlement. It took 1,387 days just to get to Pokrovsk, which is only 45 km from Donetsk, which pootin occupied since 2014.
>>523348074Same as always: Bombard with artillery and drones until the Ukrainian reinforcements stop coming. Take their positions, increase the pressure on the front until they start coming again. Repeat from step one.Until Kiew runs out of warm bodies. Only a matter of time.
>>523358583Says dark room can't see skin with white background you dumbass. So I guess you are a retard. Also lmao fat? See your hand chunkster instead of a thumb.
>>523357092Now do this for Vietnam.
>>523356207womp womp that nigga deadi can't believe puccians are so deluded by state propaganda that they are stupid enough to sign that contract. they really don't know what they're walking into
>>523358721>Says dark room yes i did that say>can't see skinno i didn't say that you fucking mongoloid>white backgroundI said you use notepad with a white background in a dark room like a fucking gremlin you fat fucking retarded illiterate retard.>Also lmao fat? See your hand chunkster instead of a thumb.lmao did i hit a nerve you fat fuck? No idea how i hit your nerves with that post with all that fucking fat around them.
>>523358486The inability to maneuver or achieve large scale surprise does not change the dynamic I described, in fact it removes certain complicating factors. The attacker still has the advantage of choosing where on the front to attack and how they will go about doing it.
>>523356138cultured man.
>>523358829Nah I just know it's always the far retards saying "no you" then to scared to prove it. I'm too bony to be fat. stay mad though
>>523358486Classic Clausewitzian approach: Forget territory, you have all the important resources on your own anyway. Destroy the enemy armies. Once they're incapacitated, you can dictate the terms of the peace or just take whatever you want.
>>523358917>too illiterate to be able to read correctly>heres my hand thoughYou've already proven how fucking retarded you are and at this point I'm not surprised you support russia seeing as you can barely read.
>>523358995Come on fatass. Let's see some palms you retard. Backing out like a lil bitch. Seething now lmao
>>523358917Stop spamposting your naked hands here, you disgusting faggot. This is not a gay dating site.
>>523359047>Demand white proof>Post it>Ranjeet here cries like a lil bitchDon't start shit flinging ranjeet if you don't want results
>>523359030>noooo please post your whole body>stop focusing on my inability to read correctlylets run that back>>523358368>>523358721Imagine being this illiterate lmao
>>523358696retard take, the USSR (a much bigger power than russia) was in Afghanistan for 10 years, lost the war, and fell apart within 2.5 years from internal economic problems. russia is losing more men per Ukrainian village then the USSR during the whole 10 year war.
>>523359134Lmao fat ass.
>>523359100>demand white proofnobody demanded it you just posted it because i called you a dumb nigger after you said my country was brown LMAOOOOOOOO
>>523359202>>523359184Comeon fatty. Seething eternally.
>>523358486They dont have to physically kill every ukranian. They just have to grind them down until they run out of money, manpower weapons, ammunition, western support, or morale and these are all compounding. The west is unable or unwilling to pour enough resources into ukraine, they are running out of meat to draft and mass desertions are happening already and of course, this does no favor for battlefield morale either. Russia is certainly in no rush to close it out, as every single passing day their positions are growing stronger, every single process is going in their favor. To me the most hilarious shit is how western companies are already negotiating a return to Russian markets. The whole virtue signalling fad did not even last four years.
>>523359100New Mutt cope just dropped hand posting the minority white away KEK>>523359253I'll show you my dick when you are able to read correctly.
>>523359253You lost the argument idiot. Time to swallow your pride and move on.
>>523356628That's what Ukrainians was fed since 2022>Just Support war and Zelensky, we will stip being poorest country in europe and we all be living like millionaires on russian reparations
>>523359301Only cope I see is some fatass too scared now. Wrong about literally everything so far. 70% you are a fat fucking retard aka demographics.
>>523359100Which part of "Nobody wants to see your gay nigger hands, you retarded mutt." do you need explained in special needs language? Go eat watermelon burgers with your tribe, you drooling retard.
>>523348247Based, destroy all of hoholand, leave nothing standing for them to remembered by
>>523359164>I failed elementary school math and I don't know how time worksOkay...
>>523359377>Wrong about literally everything so far.Lets run that back>says i wrote "cant see your skin colour because of the white background"Actually wrote >Using notepad with a white background in the dark like a gremlinI'm sorry but you're fantastically retarded.
>>523358486>Tanks can't be used to break through to strategic depht either, because they get droned. The only real option, which I thinkTowns are being taken by infiltrations, single soldiers or small groups are infiltrating towns, hold any position and wait. After some time amount of soldiers is enough to start actions.
>>523359551Lmao x4
>>523353576>cashless>9% corporate taxThe world's first army disbandment campaign. Holy fuck HAHAHAHA fuck off. NWO shit.
>>523359555All for nothing, but idiots like you are too dumb to know any better :)
>>523359282This but in reverse is whats actually happening, to Russia.
>>523354853apparently this is the new generation
>>523359568You know i can do this too right but mine are better because you're fatter, more stupid, more brown and more illiterate.
>>523353767post a offensive meme on Facebook with your name and face
>>523358989Most people have not read On War.>>523359425>do you need explained in special needs language?He probably doesn't even speak Dutch though.>>523359478American elementary schools just teach arithmetic, the sort of math you're talking about is frequently not taught until college here.
>>523358654thanks for the (you)
>>523353767You Brits are dumber than a box of rocks. He just told you. It's not his fault that you cannot use your brain because the police would kick your door in if you ever tried to.
>>523359690Come on now, these copes do not work. Are you atleast getting paid for posting?
>>523348247this. the same way Russia has fought most of it's battles the last 150 years>red waves
>>523360243He's mocking him by saying he's not allowed to have an opinion because it's an authoritarian regime so any "opinion" he types is a government sanctioned one you fucking retarded germcuck.
>>523352708This. Fellow slavs marching into the meat grinder from both sides so they can all be replaced. Well done. If either side had any sense, Russian and Ukrainian soldiers both should turn around and march on their own capitals. Prigo might not have had the right motives, but he had the right idea.
>>523348074I have literally seen 50-100 ukrainian drone videos. Not one of them shows a russian actively engaged in combat (other than firing at drone) or anyone near active fighting. It always some lone guy or a small group of guys huddling in a trenchThe russian government may politically be the "bad guy" but the ukrainians are the war criminals
>>523360488Have you watched western government propaganda? They genuinely believe that Russia is running out of resources. Total economic collapse next Tuesday. They also believe that Russians are actually orcs from the Skyrim video games and that Zelensky is the defender of the human race. Literal bizarro clown world. They're intellectually not accessible. Yesterday I tried to discuss with one of them, asked him how he checks if a report is factural. So he told me about trustworthy and untrustworthy newspaper journalists. He thinks the trustworthy journalists are trustworthy because they work for the papers that the government websites recommend as trustworthy. All the others are untrustworthy and therefore everything they write is a Russian propaganda lie. Flawless logic.
>>523360625Congrats on figuring that out. Want a trophy or something?
>>523361362I know, that's why its funny, the mismatch between reality and their expectations is so huge that there is no way that they are going to be able to make sane, rational, beneficial judgments and actionable decisions on them. Literally everything they might think, say or do will actively work against them.
>>523361457Why didn't you figure that out you fucking retard lmaooo
>>523361189>Invade country>get ass raped by drones>why are you doing this to us
>>523361189are you saying they need to wait for the russians to actively be shooting at them to be able to kill them? even your cops dont to that lmao
>>523348074Most of them are unmanned. Ukraine doesn't have troops for even 1% of those. Russia can take them effortlessly.
>>523348074>How is Russia going to do it?PIC RELATED x10000
