I have some new b&d and Milwaukee tools made in America and they are totally crap compared to my made in Japan ryobi and makita power tools and such. Can’t return them now, gonna have to buy the jap stuff. Damn what the fuck happened? Low iq?
>>523595005get yourself one of these bad boys
>>523595005>Milwaukee>Made in AmericaDoubtIt's literal chinkshit.
>>523595005>ryobino self respecting tradie uses normie teir ryobi
>>523595005I'll take them off your hands OP
>>523595005>made in Japan ryobilol hasnt been for a decade or more since they got bought out. imagine thinking this in current year... FUCKING RETARD!>inb4 you show some shill article that says they still are in japan only like I RAPED some bitch in some other thread
>>523595005>not using his bare hands and fingers Boy, I ALWAYS twist my own screws. Socket wrenches? What the FUCK does that mean? Flathead screwdrivers? What are your NAILS for, retard? You’re a pussy I never use saws either, I karate chop my planks and plywood boards. Holy shit, are you even trying??
>>523595005same op i feel youi despise american quality products, if I could I would always get Japanese for everythingbut with the options I had available I chose kobalt because i like the color blue
>>523595005Got to correct you memeflaggot mutt bro. You did not buy b&d or Milwaukee cordless/power tools that are made in America. Can't read on the tool? Low iq?
>>523595349Ryobi is better than any American brand named junk. It’s kinda amazing how Americans can’t make anything of decent quality or value anymore. Must be the non whites and drug addicted white millenials and zoomers.
>>523595005how much for the whole set?You got all those?I'll pay you 40 dollars you gotta bite the shipping.
>>523595349Ryobi is great for personal use but you only go higher tier if you’re actually in a trade
>>523595005>Milwaukeeover rated trash. its dewalt or makita
>>523595005Basically every American brand that was renowned for quality at some point was bought up by venture capitalists and production outsourced for the sole purpose of riding the brand recognition wave for short term profits until customers find out what happened.
>>523595635>dewaltOh my God kek hahahahahahaa associating it with Makita HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>523595005We used to have craftsman they were pretty good, may I suggest dewalt? Havent had any issue with them. And yes low iq we were flooded with third worlders who cut every corner and half ass everything.
>>523595005Milwaukee and ryobi aeg are made by the same company TTISame shit different logo but gives the consumer a feeling of choice.
>>523595005Give them back, Tyrone.
>>523595005i have a milwaukie packout. literally says made in israel
>>523595005"Made in America" just lets you know which side of the border the Mexicans are working on
>>523595697>actual faggot behavior>on my mongolian underwater basket weaving forumgo on, get.
>>523595534All memeflaggot slide threads depend upon the laziness of the average person to not check sources. This doesn't work on 4chan because there's always someone autistic enough in every thread to investigate the claim and share their findings.
>>523595005>memeflag
If you are a mechanic the m12 stubby is a God tier impact wrench. So I went M18 & M12. Ryobi is okay for changing tires.t. Mechanic
Liar. Makita is still decent but defemitly a step down from milwaukee and dewalt and ryobi is barely above budget bands like craftsman and black and decker. Hitachi used to be quite good, especially their corded saws, but aren't on the same level since they sold their tool division and were rebranded as metabo hpt and are probably a bit worse than makita but better than ryobi. Actual european metabo sans the HPT is still solid though. Milwaukee is probably slightly better than dewalt which is honestly also owned by black and decker but it's their higher end stuff and i like they can take a beating so prefer them. Milwaukees modular packing system is probably the best so the big brands though. You've got high end stuff like hilti too but a greenhorn showing up with a bunch of brand new hilti tools would look like a larping fag financed by daddys money and since battery systems lock you in ifnyour in general construction it's probably better to go for a less specialized brand with a wider range of tools available anyway. For your average joe in the industry it's basically team yellow or team red. You've got more flexibility with corded tools and aren't so locked into a brand there though so you can play to different manufacturers strength as you please there.
>>523595005Tools have never been discussed once on this board until I bought some recently. Christmas gift to myself. Is my mossad agent trying to influence me in some way? Probably.
>>523596438>For your average joe in the industry it's basically team yellow or team redYea if you work then you need the cheap crap that works until it breaks after a year. The slightly more expensive jap stuff is for diy people that want quality and affordability. I don’t know about Bosch.
Actual tradesman here with 26 years under me.Dewalt, Makita, good stuff, not enough difference between them to start fangirling over brands.People buy what they have batteries for or whoever does the best deals.Milwaukee is good stuff but over priced and over hyped.Ryobi is pretty decent for DIY.
>>523597130Bosch have two tiers, green for DIY and blue for pros.I have a few of their blue gear, a cordless screwdriver and a digital level. It's ok but I wouldn't call it great
If you're using them to death, Mwke or Makita. For occasional use best buy is Ridgid.
>>523597140Pretty much. I do think makita is slightly lower quality but ultimately agree and the same could arguably said about dewalt vs milwaukee and dewalts still my preferred brand. I do miss old hitachi though.
>>523595005Makita is obviously intended for professionals. Milwaukee tools are China-slop manufactured for a Father's Day special price point at Home Depot. $129 special, impact driver, drill, and cordless circular saw. You can get away with buying a tile saw or an airless paint sprayer at Harbor Freight for home projects but if you work in the trades just bite the bullet and buy good tools.
>>523595005most milwaukee shit is sold by chinks lmao
>>523597469Oh we still have a few surviving hitachi grinders in the shop. They are easy to fix, especially when you have a bin full of broken ones
>>523595005>made in americaNearly every toolbrand "made in america" is a meme unless it's a forged handtool. >made in Japan ryobiHow do we tell him? If Japan actually made these they wouldn't break every year.>>523595349I have almost never been disappointed in a ryobi product. Their compact battery miter saw is literally a godsend for trimworkers.>>523597264>tiersSo basically almost ever powertool brand does this shit and it's to make a quick buck off the unknowing consumer. Even Ryobi does this, you can typically only get their>performance gradetier shit online. Basically if the tool is in a normie department store it's almost always >consumer gradeDeWalt does thisBosch does thisI don't think Milwaukee can do this because they would still manage to charge out the ass for a shitty consumer grade tool and no one would buy them.
>>523597140The milwaukee fuel 12v stubby impact does look pretty nice. I'm thinking of picking one up. Not sure if I'd prefer a 1/2" or 3/8" though.
>>523597130>>523597264Bosch is German (over) engineering
>>523595005>Milwaukee>made in America>Ryobi>made in Japandoubt in both regards. Ryobi 40v stuff is pretty cool for outdoor use, ive got a bunch of them.
>>523597733This is because only a few companies own all the others and they make different tiers of tools for different markets.Bosch is the only product I've seen that sells a green and blue version under the same brand
>>523597767go for 3/8", anything big enough to justify bumping up to a 1/2" socket would probobly need to be done with a bigger 18v impact wrench.
>>523597767you don't need a 3/8 impact, just get a 1/2 with an adapter or buy an electric or air ratchet
>>523597767go 3/8, anything 1/2 is practically air wrench>>523598027I know, I'm just saying the others do it without changing the color. They change a few letters or numbers in the model number disingenuously. IMO Bosch should either stay in tools or consumer electronics/appliances, not both because it's eventually going to result in them making black and decker tier shit.
there are plenty of youtube channels that extensively test toolsmilwaukee and makita are typically up there consistently as some of the best. even dewalt has some good stuff but once you buy the batteries you're locked into a brand's ecosystemi'm happy with my milwaukee stuff
>>523595692Milwaukee and Ryobi have the save parent company friendo
>>523598090>>523598156Thanks, anons. I have a 20v Dewalt 1/2" impact in the shop. It's nice but it's chunky. I have air tools too, but don't often need them anymore. The Milwaukee looks pretty sweet. >just get a 1/2 with an adapter.I already have adapters and some very complete sets of sockets. I been thinking this is the way to go. But... The 3/8" might get in a few tighter spots, especially with the low profile nano sockets.
>>5235985402nd vote for the 3/8"Thanks, anon. I guess I could use a 3/8" to 1/2" adapter for the bigger stuff.
>>523597722I've got an old miter and chop saw but that's about it. I do mostly carpentry now. Started in the family waterproofing buinesses but digging is the one thing i just really don't want to be doing so i found my own niche. "Going to work with dad" as a kid often ended up being essentially child labor with a lot of digging so I've got a strong distaste for it.
>>523595005b&d is home use tier and everybody knows it, I don't understand why you would even bring them up ryobi is good for a tradie's first set of tools, same with milwaukee barring a few exceptions delwalt is universal industry standard, makita for drywall and some other niches, hitachi for framing nailguns, hilti for nailing steel to concrete and T3 for light gauge shithilti also makes a lot of cool shit like rotating laser levels for doing tbar
>>523595005I really wish my father taught me about power tools instead of yelling at me every time I tried to learn
>>523599627>T3*T4
>>523595005>An unironic makita shillHow the fuck do you exist? Your blue tools are fucking garbage
>>523598945Honest opinion: get both, if not just to have two bits ready go
What? You never heard of DeWalt?
>>523599783I know, right. (Sigh...)Thanks, anon. Cheers!
>>523599924Not worth mentioning
>>523599627there is an office building in alpharette georgia with hilti nails perforating a whole floor of steel columns.just rows of nails knocked clean through the web. it all got covered in fire proofing. it's going to collapse one day.
>>523599924They think just because it's owned by Stanley automatically makes it Craftsman tier. The same people know tools so little they think Craftsman made bad tools too. DeWalt is the "it just works" tier of tools that doesn't try to be too "innovative" and when they are it's actually useful and not just shedding a gram of weight you'll never notice.
>>523595005I would always get a based Makita again. This rotary hammer drill goes through concrete like my BWC through virgin pusy.
And now the based tool company that suicide themselves in america because they didn't think "hitachi" looked good on a tool. It's a damn shame too, they made based battery tools that were also backwards compatible with the old herzian wall outlet.
Team red or you’re a fucking nigger sheetrocker spic.
>>523600626Milwaukee fags are like the RTX PC fags who cheerish themselves for buying overpriced shit they'll utilize maybe 5% of the time. These crooks are actually trying to compere with Snapon, only in price alone. They want $300 for a set of plastic lego boxes, god forbid you even glance at the price tags of some of the other -ACKOUT shit.
Ryobi is based because they make insane tools for all needs.
>>523595005They're all basically the same at this point as long as you're buying mid tier and above. And unless you're a contractor, carpenter, or tradesman it absolutely makes no difference for the hobbyist or homeowner and you're just making a gay engagement thread
>>523595005they probably do the same thing as the Japanese and chinese stuff don't worry, you're retarded op
>>523595005Nice b8
>>523595005>I have some new b&d and Milwaukee tools made in AmericaNope, they're made in china.
>>523595005>Impacts and Drills Milwaukee > close second > Makita >> Dewalt > Rigid >Rotary Drills Hilti but I would only buy one if I’m drilling into concrete everyday, my m18 hammer drill works fine for the most part>Reciprocating SawMilwaukee > Makita > Dewalt >Circular SawI’ve only used corded but Dewalt makes good saws >Hand Tools Klein all the way for screwdrivers, wrenches (ratcheting) go to gear wrench, then Harbor Freight’s Icon line is good too. I like Milwaukee and I have the batteries so i stick with it. Ryobi is only good for DIYers and it’s a small step above Black and Decker or Craftsman. Yes the same company owns Ryobi and Milwaukee but that’s like comparing Volkswagen to Porche and Audi.
>>523595005Chinks own it. Op is a nigger. Week bate.
>>523601618Klein is the shit for screwdrivers for sure. It's the only "(numbers) in one"/"multitool" that actually functions properly and makes like easier
>>523595005I have a Milwaukee impact driver and oscillator and I’m pretty happy with the build quality desu :/
>>523597823>Bosch is German (over) engineeringIt's mostly faggots and browns nowadays
>>523595005Dewalt is standard for american tradies. Black and decker is walmart tier, when you want the cheapest version of a tool you can find. If someone has a milwaukee then they got a deal on it. They’re alright but for retail you’d just buy a dewalt instead. Lots of boomers like craftsman because back in the day sears used to sell craftsman tools with a lifetime warranty, but it’s barely above black and decker. Ryobi is just… why. You either use your tools every day or you use them a few times a year. There’s no mid range user so why have a mid range product? I guess batteries, they make every fucking thing you could think of.
>>523595005Dewalt
>>523595005>Milwaukee brand tools are currently owned by Techtronic Industries Company Limited (TTI), a multinational company based in Hong Kong. Milwaukee operates as an independent subsidiary of TTI.>Ryobi brand tools are currently owned by Techtronic Industries (TTI), which licenses the brand for its power tools and outdoor equipment.
i was looking at Milwaukee stuff on hd cause of the sales. WTF happened? Milwaukee, deWalt, and mikita pricing shit like they're fucking Hilti now?!?! i read reviews on Milwaukee cordless stuff and everybody is shitting on their products now. all of them basically saying the same thing, stick to corded Milwaukee tools. also ryobi has come a long way they make THE BEST cordless nailer right now and it way cheaper, doesn't mar the wood. this black friday is the 1st time ive ever seen Paslode on sale, the industries top cordless nailer since forever. they know ryobi air strike is gonna sell big.
>>523595005I thought Milwaukee at least had an effective lifetime warranty, or at least several years, if you buy them at Home Depot or other bigbox store.
>>523595005>he thinks new milwaukee tools are made in america
>ENTERThey used to be great when they didn't take themselves more seriously than the tool quality they provide. I rarely if ever get coupons anymore and there's hardly any freebees. They want me to sign up like costco and I think that's poor. You expected a functional enough tool to get one specific job done, not a long lasting quality tool. Also angle grinders because for some reason they last as long as any other brand. At least I can still get moving blankets and other refillable here too along with the occasional Ford cope tool.
All my niggas using festool
>>523595228>>523595081>>523595005Yea, I don't believe this jeet got black and Decker made in America either, that brand is chink shit
>>523598853>>523598090>>523597767>>523598156I run 20v 1/4" hex impact driver with adapters for 1/4, 3/8, and 1/2 square drive And a 20v 1/2 impact wrench Socket sets are 1/4" and 1/2". My 3/8 sets never get touched these daysI wouldn't downgrade to 12v impact, I only run a screwdriver from that lineup and while I can start lawnmowers with it, that really only gets used for computer motherboards and car dash boards these days
>>523595349Ryobi is absolutely fine if it's not spending 8 hours a day being operated by shaved chimps.
>>523606109I bought a jumpstarted from that shit hole and it broke within a month.I paid cash and had the receipt with serial number, 90 days warranty The fucking kikes refused to do an exchange if I didn't let them scan my drivers license "just to prove it's me"I'm never shopping there again. I fully encourage you to rob them and burn the place down
>>523596111Checked and the m12 electric ratchets and screw guns are better than Snap-On.t. another mechanic
>>523605106>pricing shit like they're fucking HiltiIt's almost like there's some sort of tariff on chink imports.Shame nobody bothered to support local manufacturing too, they're just gritting their teeth until Zion Don fucks off and all his shit gets undone because nobody in their right mind is going to set up a factory knowing the chink tap is going to open back up in 3 years. 10 years of tax relief or subsidies would have done the trick.
>>523600496>metaboLol that's a rebranded Hikoki (fromely Hitachi) impact driver.
>>523597564Or buy cheap tools, then when one breaks, replace it with a good one. That way you don't buy expensive tools that you hardly use.
I want dewalt so I can steal my dad's stuff
>>523608022Just to prove you didn't buy a pallet of broken shit or something and then return it for a new one. What is your fucking problem?
>>523608122Is Snap-On worth it at all for battery powered tools? Their hand tools are nice but now there are lines of nice hand tools even at Walmart.
>>523595005I always see people dog on ryobi but I have many of their tools and they hold up. I've never understood the hate.
>>523609555They didn't have my id in the first place because I refused to give them a phone number or email, so the drivers licenses can't prove shit, especially that"I'm me" because they didn't have record of "me"And the receipt i had, once again, had the fucking serial number on it proving I bought it at that exact store a few weeks ago, and not in a ,"pallet of broken shit"
Just a home owner but I have the Kobalt 24v stuff because Lowe's is closer than Home Depot. They gave me a drill/driver set for free if I traded in an old ni-cad drill set like ten years ago. Probably have 20 of the power tools now and they all work great. No idea how they'd hold up on a job though. The batteries used be like $15 but they all went up so that is lameJust got one of the nail guns that doesn't need any air and it's sweet
>>523595494Real tradie shit
>>523609699Actual use these tools daily, every single day and you'll find out.most ryobi hold up for decades for home use and they are great for exactly this.home use.in industrial use they are notorious for not lasting.so just admit to yourself what you are using it for and you have the best answer.nothing wrong with ryobi for its intended purpose.for the record though ryobi fucking sucks especially for its drill bits, etc.i always recommend someone buy the starter set ryobi bit collection because of how cheap it is and so they understand the difference.5 years after owning them 9/10 of the 50+ collection broke.meanwhile my mil drill bits have lasted 15+ years and are still going strong.
>>523610420What nicad set did you give them
>>523595005made in Germany >>> made in Japan > made in other EU countries >>> made anywhere elseif you're not a poorfag>get festooleverything else is just a shitty compromise
STIHL wins niggers
>>523595005Milwaukee is a Chinese-owned company and there’s beed a marked decrease in their durability within the last couple years
>>523610912>Made in Germany by shitskin invaders to India level specs Idfk how old you are, but made in Germany is lower than assembled in USA these days
>>523595005Milwaukee is made in China
>>523610635Some dead Dewalt shit that was in the basement of my house when I bought it. Lowe's ran a promo when they launched the 24v Kobalt line. I still have some B&D nicad tools but all the batteries are shotAny of the new stuff is so much better. My dad probably had a dozen different battery drills when I was a kid and would always end up pissed and running extension cords for the good corded stuff when they died
>>523610953>STIHL winsalso really goodbut they mostly make (professional) outdoor / garden tools>>523611091>mutt complains about immigrationkekyou've never been to Germany and you probably never willspecialized manufacturing here is mostly ruralwhile immigrants keep to the cities>Germany is lower than assembled in USA these dayspic relUSA assembled is worse than Chinaat least Chinese stuff is cheap
>>523595005Most power tool brands are just battery manufacturers now
>>523611324Nicad is shit but you can repack it with lion or get an adapter. I was given some old nicad DeWalt shit and that's what I'm going to do with it.B&d and DeWalt are made by Stanley, I think I got a kobalt battery to plug into a Stanley drill and work once
PARKSIDE PERFORMANCE WQN JEWKKITA AND JEWALKEE SHILLS SEEHTING
>>523611331Autistic boomer delusions aren't going to save your ass. The jap stuff is far superior to anything the Germans make now. This isn't ww2. Also most Germans are Russian rape babies.
>>523595005>good tools like makita and ryobiJapanese bamboo jew brands aren't good tools, makita has some of the jewiest warranties of all time and you get what you pay for with ryobi. At least milwakike and jewault will replace your broken shit on the spot in store. Japanese tools are a great choice for weak wristed faggots like op however.
>>523595349Everyone uses Milwaukee 12v where I work
I’m self employed and build things for a living. I use DeWalt in my shop but for oddball tools used occasionally around the house I’ve had no problems using Ryobi stuff.
>>523611756>most Germans are Russian rape babies.the Russians didn't set a foot in west Germany you mongoloid mutt. Also there were mass improvised abortions and suicides of east German women. You think after years of propaganda and the confirmation of said propaganda by these rapist apes a German woman would birth a Russian mutt? lmao piss off German women used to be based and would rather die
>>523595005> Mil-a-WOKE-eBe careful not to ruin your manicure.
>>523612019They'll only replace your shit if it's within warranty.I called about my impact wrench once and default said I'd have to mail it in and pay a service feeturnedbout it was actually the fucking battery that wouldn't loose contact when it really started shaking and the impact wrench doesn't just restart action when it gets power again and requires a reset in the form of battery removal, kill the trigger, out battery back in.Tge problem was the terminal in the battery needed squeezed back together, sorta my fault because I was using it for extra ciricular activitiesStill the warranty shit and refusal to answer questions posted me off
>>523595869It's all an illusion of choice.
>>523612327>used to beYea, and now they're all vlads daughters
>>523595005>Damn what the fuck happened? Low iq?you're buying goods from a kike-run, majority shitskin, third-world country. what were you expecting? all show, no go, just like everything they get up to. MarRKeTinG GeNiuS and pure kikery.i implmeneted a "no yanks" policy around eight years ago. we refuse to deal with any americunt vendors (aside from apple), and only service wholesale clients in jewsa (no terms, tt/loc only). that eliminated 80% of the fuckery instantly, and contributed substantially to the bottom line.yanks will jew, screw, and sue you at every opportunity, simple as. you can't trust those cunts. they're just as scammy as jeets, which is probably why they loathe them so much –it's pure projection.
>>523612521>refuse to deal with any americunt vendors (aside from apple),T. Jeet LMAOThe we is just you btw
>>523595228>Doubt>It's literal chinkshit.if it was made in jewsa, what would it be? niggershit? spicshit? jeetshit? muttshit?
>>523611667Their range of tools is very limited. Especially when it comes to woodworking, Makita always wins, only rivaled by Dewalt and Festool (very expensive)
>>523612679>T. Jeet LMAO>The we is just you btwpost brownoid paw and desensitised/mutilated kike-cock, you sub-human faggot.
>>523612720Show flag
>>523612438get new material you mutilated worm
>>523612821> Show flagif you insist, you mulatto-lipped nu world golem.
protip: whenever mutts accuse you of being a "jeet", it's to derail the thread/argument. when they demand flags, it's so they can dob you in for hate crimes.
mutt "quality" is non-existent. just look at the ongoing nightmare with boeing and the 737, top fucking kek. only yanks can somehow manage to fuck up a plane that's been in production for 60 years.
>>523612845You sure spend a lot of time thinking about our cocks, down right peculiar
>>523595005how dare you, memeflag. milwaukee tools are awesome
Im a DeWalt man purely because I like the colour yellow and I get a good discount working at Bunnings Warehouse.
>>523613424>You sure spend a lot of time thinking about our cocks, down right peculiar
>>523613647Fascinating behavior
>>523613233Russian rapebaby seething kek
I have Milwaukee tools provided by my work and I literally throw them down into snowbannks, puddles, drive away with them sitting on the tailgate, use them as hammers, etc. and they still work every time.
>>523595005ngmi, should had stuck with makita>>523613812boeing garbage is still garbage
>>523610912the entire reason there's a "made in" stamp is because of germany making garbage products. you're regressing back to the nigger country you always were
>>523613974PSA: this is why employers make everyone buy their own tools
>>523614025Yeah, I also blow the transmissions on the trucks for fun. Maybe GM shouldn't put glass transmissions in their vehicles if they're gonna be provided to me for free. Luckily the company i work for is owned by a multi billion dollar structured global company and my nonsense flies under the radar entirely because the people who matter have no fucking clue what goes on out here.
>>523613709>Fascinating behaviorisn't it? bizaare that someone who isn't a kike/muzzie would mutilate their penis. lmfao. imagine paying a heeb doctor to permanently ruin your baby's sex life, whilst the hospital sells the foreskin on to the pharmaceutical/cosmetic industry for several grand each. mutts are truly some of the thickest and most cucked faggots in the universe.what's it like to never experience the full joy/pleasure of sex? oh, that's right, you'll never know. it's like imagining a new colour, top fucking kek. fuck off, jew boy, go play with your mangled bellend.
>>523614148>Yeah, I also blow the transmissions on the trucks for fun.what now? you're into blowing trannies?
>>523595005Actually milwaukee is made in israel. Thats why its so expensive. Look at the label on your packout if you dont believe me.
>>523614186Cope all you want, your granny still got raped and passed around by your grandpa and his friends
>>523614290>Cope all you want...
id rather just buy the honest chink shit for a tenth of the price of "western" brands that are all made in china anywayI hate chinks but I have to say I like how they're fucking over the jews that contract them to make stuff for jews to sell to goyim at 10x the price of the price to produce themchinks are doing it to "luxury" knives & watches too and it's hilarious
>>523595005>tool snobsPersonally, it's about size and weight. I've been using Dewalt for years, but Milwaukee makes a smaller Bandsaw and Impact, which I prefer.
>>523595005It really depends on the tool Milwaukee makes really great impact drivers and drills Dewalt makes great table saws and miter saws and Makita makes great circular saws and then Bosch I like for hammer drills and laser equipment
>>523595005I bought Milwaukee when it was still in MilwaukeeKEK
>>523595005It's pure greed. Why would they make a 100 dollar power tool that you will buy once, if they can make 75 dollar power tool that you will buy ten times.
>>523595692100% see: craftsman, et al
>>523596989Yeah this entire website is a psyop it just specifically tailors itself to whoever you are somehow it’s pretty interesting actually. The shit that I have seen pop up on here that I’ve not seen anywhere else that is stuff I’ve said before, yeah, but whatever, fuck it all, nothing I can do they already know I’m just a slave. Or this is just where all the people with brains end up, as well as the totally insane, because the Internet is controlled by retards
>>523595005This is bait because ryobi sucks and everyone knows it
>>523595005>Milwaukee tools made in America and they are totally crap compared to my made in Japan ryobi
>>523595005Ryobi is fucking trash.
>>523596111M12 is gutless even for shit like building a fence.
>>523595544>>523595005milwaukee and ryobi and rigid are all made by the same company, TTI and i think they are made in vietnam. also, milwaukee is good and their batteries last longer than the competition (years of service)t. builds houses
>>523620725I saw a plumber buy a brand new M12 Hacksall and the goddamn battery kept falling out.
>>523595005Just go watch torque test youtube channel everyone is behind Milwaukee. I have mostly Milwaukee cordless that i used in my Trade and a few ryobi tools that i planned to use just a few time around the house a few times. I like Bosch for wood working those are all corded.
>>523603426Since you don’t have to buy all your tools at once it just makes sense to buy multiuser when it’s on sale. I’ll probably swap my makita corded sawsall for an m18 Miluakee next time it makes sense.
>>523595005>euro likes to stick ryobi batteries up his ass.color me surprised.
>>523614022you live in a fake reality anon>made in Germanyis literally the most trusted made in label in the worldand it's been like this for decades now
>>523623755>Outdated opinions from a survey that happened a decade ago The boomers they asked are dead now,Made in Germany is the equivalent of made in india
>>523611667I boycott lidl, fuck jews.
>>523624531Aldi keeps selling sketchy shit here. Like pizza with aluminum in it or pizza that is made in a shellfish factory, or pizza with basically no fucking cheese on it
>>523615526I've considered that, but it's too hit and miss on what chink shit is actually good vs what's a scam
>>523626874There are a few proudly chinese brands, but they're only 10~20% cheaper than their western branded counterparts.I can only speak to electronics/test equipment though, things like fnirsi, uni-t, anker, ugreen, etc.
>>523627431Don't buy those kits. Buy individually These companies will have like 3 versions of each tool and the kits get the gimped versions to make it seem like a dealI can tell you the DeWalt kit has the shitty drill with the plastic chuck and no hammer function The impact drive is probably the mid one too, and they upgraded the oscillating tool to have a 3 speed selector which might be worse for some applications vs the original the has the entire range on the trigger at all times. The oscillating frequency is critical for what you're working on. Difference between hot knife through butter and not even cutting.Those batteries are shit tiny ones
>>523609603The Snap on 14.4 ratchets make more power than M12 models, which are mostly marketed as High Speed. The tests I ran on a 3/8 NC bolt had the M12 1/4 HS get blown out of the water by the brushed 1/4 snap on, which has since been updated to brushless with the modern "ring" shaped light. The insider has an odd stutter under high load but is a nice option for the mostly 3/8 long neck customer who uses 1/4 occasionally. The problem is the Snap On batteries, chargers, and tools themselves are much more expensive while also having a worse warranty. The impacts don't seem more powerful than the M12/M18 models. The screw guns with the rocker trigger are great for interior work though. I have snap on ratchets, M12/M18 impacts. With the new higher output M12 ratchets scheduled for 2026, if a snap on ratchet fails I will likely try those.My snap on ratchets have had generally lesser reliability, trigger issues, compared to the M12 which simply work and work and work. The only repairs the M12 has seen are worn out detent balls which can happen to any ratchet when it's used daily for 5+ years. That said the 80ft/lb snap on is an animal and powers through a lot.- another mechanic
>>523627431Fuck houses, I'm the goddamn wizard here.
>>523629221You just hate houses and cars because you can't fit in them with that big ass extension
>>523595005Makita is Chinese but it's good chinese like holosun, a 1/3 of spyderco and twice fried dog. Milwaukee makes shit in America, China, Germany and Taiwan.
>>523595005ryobi is for little girls
>>523615526>are all made in china anywayThe biggest difference is the quality control. With chink shit you have a much higher chance to get a shit model
>>523623755>made in UK>qualityMust not be on their cars.
>>523629221>Dewalt to Dewalt Adapter You are a Hufflepuff either way.
>>523599685>TIL I have an American brother
>>523595081Makita has the best batteries and chargers.
>>523630086This is true.The only time I've seen a Ryobi in the wild, an old jewish woman came up to me asking for help opening the chuck.She had a sponge in there on a plastic wand. I don't fucking know what it even wasLike this but it was a fucking sponge, not bristles, I can't even find a picture of it>Your webmSomeone call CPS
>>523595005>compared to my made in Japan ryobi and makita power tools and suchThere's where yoj went wrong, comparing anything to nihon steel
>>523630941It's a 18v nicad to 20v lion adapter, you fucking tard. New battery olatfoplatforms Funny have a 3" dildo on them
>>523630941Bad image search on my part, meant to post a ryobi to dewalt adapter. Ryobi at least never changed their battery types. Dewalt changed to the slide because in all the innovative ideas they applied to tools making the battery stop falling out was too challenging, even despite the fact they weren't NiCd anymore. They also do not make as many battery tools as ryobi (ryobi has over 300 at this point). Though I will say as a caveat they make shittier,heavier and shorter lasting batteries than all the others. You need to at least get 6ah/8 ah ones to stand up to others 4ah.
>>523595005Gave up on the makita. Had 4 batteries die on me in the past 6 months. Upgraded to dewalt. Best you can get in my opinionAlso, ryobi? you fag
>>523595349what are you talking about? ryobi's fine. It's good even. 8/10 minimum. Got a new impact driver from them, and it's amazing.
>>523631712Do you still have the batteries? The control boards have a Killswitch. Just fucking cut it out and buy or build a balance controller, can't think of the babe batter load cell balencer
>>523596438Milwaukee is not better than dewalt. Milwaukee is what tradies use because they don't want to look like a rich boomer.
>>523598666Kek. I actually didn't know that. Granted, I don't think I ever owned a Ryobi toolset. Still funny though.
>>523632110Nah, straight in the skip bin at workThey just didn't hold charge anymore. Would run flat after 10mins or less of use
>>523595005You can't buy Makita's Japan-manufactured products of the shelf, here. A shame! They are top notch, like the majority of Japanese electronics, even hand tools.
>>523631944I really like their 21" electric mower and their auger. They had problems with the $100 batteries shitting the bed for a while, but seems to be fixed. I had my fist ryobi mower for a decade before I hit one rock too many. Gas mowers are absolute shit tier in comparison to a ryobi mower. Their augers do not give up and pull fuckin boulders out of the earth.
>>523632468>because they don't want to look like a rich boomer.Milwaukee is literally the "rich boomer" brand though. Some of their tools are "better" but mainly in ergonomics as to properly be able to store more in their 2nd homes heated garage.
>>523632468>tradies useAt work, tradies use company-provided power tools.For his home gear, he'll purchase whatever brand for which he already owns batteries.
>>523595005I like my Milwaukee electric ratchet. I bought it off the snap-on truck when I was working at an auto shop, it made the jobs go faster like it's supposed to. I still break it out now and again when the need arises.
>>523595005end stage capitalism is what you are seeing.
>>523633167Not true, a lot of mechanics have their own shit. There's a whole market based around it, tool trucks would stop by 3 times a week to try to sell us new tools. A lot of shops don't provide tools either, you have to bring your own when you're starting.
>>523633167>tradies use company-provided power tools.BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!They buy their own fucking tools if they don't work at a wagie job which isn't "tradies"(are you a fucking child btw?!)They'll buy whatever they want if and only if they don't want to join the communal battery sharing pool, otherwise they're buying whatever the other people on the job site are using
I just bought a DCA as a cheap household alternative to buying a Makita. I am impressed with it so far. It had a reasonable sale price. I paid half the price I would've for a brand. Same torque, power, revolutions, and the battery life is good. I needed a new drill for home DIY, a couple of pictures and a TV bracket etc into masonry and wood. It made sense cordless electric, two battery, hammer, mid range, 21 torque settings. If heavy duty commercial yea Makita every time. Dewalt everybody has and a lot complain, batteries or something. Who knows how long it will last. It did the job. Happy.
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>>523633603A dick cunt anal?Nobody knows what the fuck you're talking about. It's probably some bong grocery stores house brand Post a picture or something. All these stores contracted chinks to make up bullshit brands like Hercules, Ryobi, kobalt, Bauer, it's just rebadged chink shit
>>523632912My last tradie job everything was Milwaukee but they asked me to bring in my own tools cause mine were better. dewalt is the weekend warrior brand. Milwaukee is the actual pro brand but dewalt is better. Put two and two together, I don't actually give a fuck but I found your post humerous here's your (you)
>>523633770It's a Chinese alternative. It's called DCA and is picking up traction as a cheaper alternative on the market. I had tradesman come around I asked and researched. I compared prices and brands. In the same bracket power settings battery life functions it was half the price. I am not a commercial user putting thousands of screws in a day. When I was or around it was dewalt everywhere and everytime, and the same bullshit of where is the battery it's out. Changing to Makita everybody swears by. As a home DIY user I didn't want to pay Makita bucks. Double the price. I researched and found a DCA the mid range model in the same comparison had good reviews. I am impressed with it. No I have not stress tested it. No need.
>>523633770Everybody in Japan uses makita, ryobi and hikoki (formerly hitatchi). Japs make superior products now or have them made for them (American toyata trucks way better than American F150’s)
>>523634292I read the rest of your post after I replied. I'm glad your happy and it's working.I do a bit more than tv screws, I use my DeWalt flagship drill to jack up cars and have even busted the factory Jack with it, that fucking scared me, it punched the back out of the metal on the jack and the car fell. Sorta my fault because I was lifting it with the jack on a cinder block and it's not meant to lift from that starting height but I needed it to get a control arm off. Had to have the handle on the drill and even then it fucking stalled so I just turned it like a tire iron and there was a loud noise like a gunshot and the càr just dropped. I found the broken piece of the jack on the other side of the roadDrill still runs fine LMAOIf I was just putting on tv screws I wouldn't care, so no disrespect.
>>523633559Where the fuck do you live where guys are bringing in their own power tools to a job site? Hicksville, Alabama?
>>523634336Idfk where you are because you're a memeflag piece of shit, but Ryobi is generic house brand for home Depot and only used by stay at home grandma's and castrated cuckolds that aren't allowed to buy real tools
>>523635505As far as auto shops go, everywhere. Like I said there's an entire market based around it. With construction jobs theyll provide some basic tools but a lot of guys still bring their own, I've been a literal ditch-digger and there was people bringing their own tools for it, this was in a large metro area too. Now for landscaping everything was company provided but they weren't investing as much in it as, say, an auto shop would have to.
>>523595005The American Ryobi toolsets are actually made by someone else, Ryobi just licenses their name to them
>>523595005american products are mostly made by niggers nowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKh1PqJGEQ4
>>523635505>HicksvilleBasically. If you don't make people buy their own shit they act like this guy >>523613974>>523614148Or they just steal that shit. I've heard stories from some piece of shit that bragged about a union welding job where they provided tools, it was 5 miutes after he tried to show off his no name grinder that he bragged about stealing from them>>523635807Especially auto. The only thing they'll let you use are super specialty tools. See the post I just linked to about the leaf using drills as hammers and trying to break transmissions
>>523635807I'm referring to my experience in commercial construction. You're not expected to bring your own impact, hammer drill, grinder, band saw, etc.In fact, there may even be some insurance-related reasons to not bring your own.
>>523630086GIWTWM
>>523634140>but they asked me to bring in my own toolsLike I said "rich boomer brand".
>>523636161Jmihdc
>>523635893>Niggers working on carsalways has been, why do you think detroit is even there?
>>523636108Yeah, if they like you. If not they might give your car to someone else and then you lose the commission you were going to get on that car. >>523636147Gotcha. My brother is in that field, he has his own tools on back-up for the jobs but I think many are provided to him.
>>523595005White Americans are fat, stupid, and lazy. Just give it time until they become a minority and things will be fixed
>>523636724Nobody is bringing their own HVAC reclaim machine to work at bay #3I've seen a small place have a shop hydraulic brake flaring kit
>>523637005Yeah things like that are provided, that's not what I'm talking about. I mean things that they figure you should own. If you don't, they'll give your car away. It provides "incentive" to buy that tool when the truck comes, or on your own time.
>>523633722Kek. You nailed it.
>>523637136It's not even about making you buy it, it's because the average mechanic can't be trusted and will put an adjustable wrench on backwards then hit the handle with a sledgehammer instead of getting the right tool that's 10' awayThey literally laugh about destroying tools and equipment
>>523595005> NOOO HOW DARE YOU CRITICIZE MY MILWALKI BRUSHED 100 V ITS TIMMIES BEST FRIEND FR FR
>>523595005I like Makita. The color is pleasing to me as I autistically fuck up a cut, as per usual.
>>523637488I never saw that. Usually people were very meticulous about having the right tool because that car will come back to you one day and if you rounded something off or stripped something because you were being retarded and using the wrong tool you'll have to deal with it later.
>>523637952That particular example was a guy I knew that was working out of a home shop, he did it to a fan on the front of an engine. He then turned to me and said "yes we abuse tools around here" and promptly got himself cut from my will. I had previously spoken to him about this other hack that abused my tools, using an expensive chrome wrench as a hammer so that's what he was referencing. The crescent wrench he did that to was probably 70 years old and I have a similar one, I'm sure as fuck not leaving it with him now.
>>523610912german engineering is dogshit though
>>523638466That guy sounds retarded.
>>523637698>Jeets always try to speed run We were talking about this the other day, not youThey seriously look like methed out lunatics, and they think it shows skill LMAO
>>523638716They both were, but that's why you don't let subordinates use your stuff
>>523635505He's not wrong. Most decent companies will provide work wear too
Had an old rigid hammer drill that crapped out after 4 years of installer work. I beat the ever living fuck out of it. We use milwaukee and dewalt cordless tools for work doing paving/excavation. Now for equipment we avoid leeboy(fayat group), kohler small engines, and kubotas(janky controls too much play). Luv me Wirtgen, Hamm, cat, bobcat, and weilers. My only complaint is there are not enough cup holders on any of those machines.
>>523603460Had to scroll half the thread to find a white guy
>>523638719>1. hes not speed running wiggertard-Timmiecel2. hes making a show and has vids with over 90+ million views while you hold a piece of metal for a living in real life seething at non whites vid related is him feeding a Brazilian family with his Youtube money
fagniggers who don't actually own tools will tell you to buy festool because their favorite youtuber who makes "live edge river tables" makes ads for them. great quality but you dont need it unless youre actually making bespoke stuff. if youre in the trades just buy what makes sense. these tools are all disposable anyway, no matter how the hell you cut it. the only thing that will outlast you is a makita skilsaw from the 90s, everything else is equally junk just some have better warranty options than others
>>523639519He's not doing shit besides making a fool out of himself, jeet
>>523634336My Friend has a Dewalt he swears by. He is a builder and does your complete description constantly, daily. Another builder friend I helped out with his big home renovation, had problems with his Dewalts. Batteries constantly on charge, always on charge, power diminishing. He changed them to Makita and was chirpy. I had the engineers out for lines, and they had to do the heavy duty straight through the outer wall stuff, Makita. Plap plap in there.I literally needed a replacement for an awful black n decker that the chuck broke on masonry doing the wall mount. I needed a replacement, my mate would've done with his Dewalt anyway. But it's kind of important having a drill for fastenings. I prefer using a screwdriver for home stuff, traditional that way, I hate threading, drills can slip more. I just watched it with an idiot fitting a wardrobe with a hammer drill and nothing lined up, and it threaded. This asshole shouldn't have been employed, and cost his firm a refund. Another dewalt.I needed something for home usage, but functionality. I didn't want to pay big commercial brand, bucks. I researched it. I am unclear on it. I've not gotten to heavy stress testing. Except it did the job the previous black n decker chucked out on. On comparison matched in its functions. Simple home use. Mid range DCA had the same functions, torque, battery life. Otherwise Makita or Dewalt. Except Dewalt in experience have more battery problems. I would've picked a Makita. But the bucks.
>>523640622You sound esl or incredibly drunkAll batteries go to shit after enough use, lion is only good for a few hundred charges.And they should have been using an impact driver or screwdriver to put cabinets together, a drill is for drilling.
ITT tradie wagies from the midwest trying with all their drunken football rivalship cow tipping might to hate on milwaukee because they perceive them as expensive.
you realize makitas sold in the us are not made in japan, but china, right?RIIIIIGHT?
>>523603426This nigga thinks black & decker still make power tools
>>523595005>using a meme flag to post about tools
>>523641398Nobody thinks Milwaukee expensive, dumbass.What even are you that you got that impression?
>>523635558>ryobihe probably saves the walmart hart brand for special occasions
>>523632912>Milwaukee is literally the "rich boomer" brand though.>>523641710
>>523641033I spent a long time on it. Literally hours before purchase to do a 5 minute job. Now I have a drill I won't use again until next Christmas. I researched the functions. I don't like buying crap. The Black n Decker wasn't mine. It was a family member's purchase. So I checked the torque, need a hammer masonry the previous drill went to chuck, it has two batteries, it had the voltage 21, it's 65 nm. It had some bits and drivers. It worked well. The same cost comparison by Dewalt or Makita was double or more. What do you do. On review of its model number it was all positive. It doesn't mean much today, bots. However there were Vidas by trades as well. Why not saved me buying a brand that doesn't get used much. I am not drunk. You're an idiot. I am responding to a thread. I have not recommended for commercial usage. I have agreed with the best brands. I rate at Makita and Dewalt. Except cost. Curiously I am curious on the brand I purchased.
>>523641710>no, no, i can afford it!>they're just sour grapesfound the midwest tradie wagie ;)
my brand new makita router (i have both the corded and the cordless one) is 1/2 has good quality as milwaukee's cordless. the slop in the sleeve adjustment pinion make's ops mom look 5 again
>>523641863>>523641801>>523641730I've got DeWalt and the difference between them and Milwaukee is the fucking Ford vs Chevy or coke vs Pepsi argument You sound retarded, there much more expensive brandsLiterally nobody thinks DeWalt or Milwaukee are rich person brands. They're better than most but get a fucking reality check
>>523642196>thinks ford is at all qualityopinion disregarded. midwest for sure. back to work, Cooper or Brandon
>>523641850You can't speak coherent English, you fucking gook bot>I compared the newton meters to DeWaltDeWalt doesn't publish that shit, their proprietary unit is "unit watts out"You didn't research shit because you're a mandarin chat bot larping as a bong
>>523642296Dude just fuck off, you're way too late in the thread the for that larp and b8
>>523642196also i've said nothing about default. they mainly copycat tryhards now. it's not hard if you're not a retarded house brand. their gears and bearings suck. but they last. >>523642539Coop! how many times i gotta tell you? get those 3 zyns out of your mouth, put your phone down, and get back to work! you can watch the game later
>>523595005Lazy and bad work ethics. They cut corners everywhere and products barely holds together.
>b-but milwaukee and ryobi are owned by the same parent company And? The tools are still vastly different in capability. Ryobi 18 volt tools will shit the bed while getting eaten alive by milwaukee's 12 volt. Lol Lamborghini and Volkswagen are owned by the same parent company but you don't see retards making that cope comparison
>>523627431Husky is superior.
>>523642758Fucking Stanley owns b&d, DeWalt, made Stanley brand drills for shartmart, and I think makes kobalt and several othersSame point you just said. They aren't comparable. What they've done to b&d is a crime of such caliber which hasn't been witnessed since the Chinese bought Westinghouse
>>523595005never had a single issue with my milwuakee tools, just bought an ego 2 stage snow blower too. maybe you're just a fag?
>>523595005Why would you buy American tools? They're dogshit. You can get the same quality in China for a tenth of the price. Or good quality in China for the same price.
>>523643064This dude works a glory hole
NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT THE REAL ISSUE:All those plastic toolboxes? Now made in the same Israel factory. Milwaukee, Ridgid, etc...Smell them. If they smell the same, guarantee you they are MADE IN ISRAELBasically they're probably laughing at goys for buying plastic for insane markups
I've heard and read so much bad shit about Makita, I don't know what to believe. Everyone makes them seem like they're a below mid-tier japanese brand, but I'm a weaboo so that doesn't sound right to me.I'm not a tradie though. Availability is severely crippled in my country, so I have an assortment of tools from DeWalt, Black & Decker, Milwaukee, Parkside (obviously from Lidl) and literal chinkshit from Aliexpress. I only had issues with chinkshit and the occasional Parkside jank.
>>523643152My M12 hackzall really does not like cold batteries. I tuck them in my armpit for 5 second and she starts right up. Only issue I've had so far.
>>523643318probably dying cells from temperature swings from being left in a truck. lithium has specific temp ranges for charging, discharging, and storage. despite what the commercials say.
>>523611331You can get excellent quality in China too. You get what you pay for. America cannot compete.
>>523643318your other m12s probably just tolerate weak cells better, if that's what you're comparing against.
>>523643270Yea, the DeWalt shit is made there too
>>523595005I have no issues with Ingersoll Rand.
All this shit about pro tools is retarded. They don't sell professional equipment at Juan Depot. There's companies that specialize in professional tools
>>523595635>MakitaYou have absolutely no fucking clue what you're talking about recommending that absolutely fucking overpriced garbage. Ryobi is better than Makita
>>523643318>hackzallSaid no one ever>5 seconds in my armpit unfreezes a batteryThis guy is the walking epitome of cognitive bias
>>523595692
>>523595869Says the poorfag who's never used Milwaukee.Yes they're owned by same parent company but are different performance levels like VW and Porche
>>523643600Oh lawdThat brands pimped out just as bad as b&d. It's just another little Stanley whoreDon't do that to yourself
>>523643318>m12 hacksaw>not m18all lithium batteries suffer loss from freezing temperatures
>>523643668>Said no one everThat's the gay ass name they gave the m12 version of the sawzall. I didn't come up with it. >This guy is the walking epitome of cognitive biasCold batteries are a thing my fampiedesudesu.
>>523643285Show your flag so I can hate you more precisely
>>523643818Yes. I use M12, cry about it. I'm doing service plumbing not framing entire buildings.Smaller tools are more convenient when you're job is to get in, fix some shit and git /out/
>>523643851You're not heating that shit up in 5 seconds like a mama chicken
>>523595005I have American dewalt tools from the 90s that lasts forever, it's all Chinese now.
>>523595005Skill issue.My Milwaukee tools I bought 5 years ago and use daily still work fine, even the batteries. Not even a brand loyalist. I could give less of a fuck what color tools are. Its just what everyone else uses so I use them for continuity. Maybe you should learn how to use tools. Or maybe you should stop being a limp wristed faggot and get some stronger hands so you aren't dropping them all the time.
>>523643970No! :3You wouldn't even know where my country is, it's so irrelevant.
>>523644147Yes we would, faggit. We've got a higher hit rate than the tsa
>>523595005Milwaukee is kike shit. Buying this is funding kikes.
Milwaukee M18 Fdd3 with a forge battery is a badass drill
