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Men's healthcare specialist Mr. Avi Matthew Solan, in a peer reviewed piece for Harvard's official journal, spoke against the myth that adult men are entitled to eight hours of sleep. He mentions that how you sleep is more important than the hours wasted sleeping, and that 6 hours is more than enough.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/how-much-sleep-do-you-actually-need-202310302986

Are men sleeping too much? How much in terms of productivity is wasted due to this? Who created this myth that we should sleep at all when we could be working and commuting?
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>>523674332
I fucked with the gateway tapes now I'm having absolutely wild dreams just last week I was suspended above my bed and a cop zooming by my street with his sirens on woke me up, spooky stuff do not recommend
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>>523674332
it can take 8-10 hours to get that 6 hours of quality sleep. this article is also being misrepresented but I can see how it could be used by psychos who want people to work longer hours and blame them for lacking the discipline to make the most out of their 6 hour sleeping periods
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>>523674332
Shalom
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Yeah that's wrong, I couldn't function with less than 10 hours of sleep.
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>>523674332
jew propaganda, didn't read
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NOOOOO YOU NEED TO WAKE UP AT 6AM AND MAKE THE COMMUTE!

Fuck kikes
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>>523674572
I don't think it's propaganda in this case, more like the "Culture of Critique" thing of Jews just not being able to help themselves by being contrarian in a way that fucks with goyim.
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>>523674332
sounds jewish
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Only faggots listen to Harvard. Sleep as much as you want.
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Just thinking about how I coulda made 280k last year on bitcoin and then another 470k this year on alts but didn't because I was scared, and then thinking about how if I lost all my money I'd be going to the same job I'm going to right now, regardless. Basically it's
>don't invest->have to work
>lost all my money->have to work
>invest and win->no longer have to work
It's such a no brainer but I keep fucking it up.
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>>523674332
Here you go
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPNW_gerXa4OoypUEgZI7uouI12WZrxeS

>The best advice and the most comprehensive overview of the most solid science
You're welcome
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>>523674332
dont some fucking jew in a lab coat telling me how much sleep I need
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>Harvard says
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>>523674474
Keep going and you will leave your body or master lucid dreaming
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>>523674332
>He mentions that how you sleep is more important than the hours wasted sleeping, and that 6 hours is more than enough.
he rite tho, siestas midday are gas frfr
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>>523674332
Dumb fucking egghead fails to realize that people can't control the quality of their sleep after a certain point, and that longer sleep time will compensate for poorer quality of sleep. Most people live in less than ideal environments for ideal sleep, and hence we need longer sleep.
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>>523674773
your brain rapidly adjusts to whatever your standard of living is and it feels normal. Having a lot of money really wont make you all that much happier in the long run, it ruins all of your relationships and friendships for one.
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>>523674332
TRUST THE SCIENCE! The same science that brought you:
the wage gap
the pink tax
the 3 out of 5 women are raped in their lifetime stat
global warming causes violence in the middle east
lobotomies
the gay uncle gene
solving the energy crisis with communism (but never nuclear power)
the chemical castration of children
"the sea level will rise X feet in Y years!" x20
"global cooling will kill the planet in Y years!" x2
pregnant men
eating bugs to save the planet
...and many, many more!
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>>523674332
sucks to be you
I sleep at least 11 hours
loser
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>>523674844
beware the Astral Dreadnought sever your silver cord and ye shall be lost to the abyss for eternity
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I refuse any science done after Obama. Things were fine before then
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>>523674332
>don't sleep goj, I need shekles
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That extra 2 hours can be better spent at work and helps build even more character. Ever ask yourself why a lot of old timers take easy jobs after retirement? Embrace the 10 hour work day and the extra money and purpose that comes with it.
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>>523675025
This is such a bullshit answer because simply being able to buy a house outright would dramatically improve my life. The "you won't FEEL happier" is meant to cope with the fact life will always suck and friendships don't exist in 2025.
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>>523674332
I will sleep as long as I like, thank you very much.
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>>523674332
I sleep 10-16 hours every day off from work because I have nothing else in my life so I use sleep to pass the time and speed up the wait towards my inevitable death.
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>>523674332
i get 8-10 daily and i wouldn't want any less
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>>523675470
If you're lucky enough to have fun and interesting dreams and nightmares, sleep is as fun as awake.
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>>523675567
/pol/ told me computer games and anime and manga and porn and drugs are degenerate so I just sleep now to pass the time
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>>523674332
I can't wait to donate my extra 2 hours of wake to Mr Schlomogoldbergsteinbaum
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>>523675470
You think you know comf? YOU THINK YOU KNOW COZY?
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>>523675170
I no longer do gateway tapes, I need to return to them and remote vision poly market betting information
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>>523674332
I need a solid 7-7.5 quality hours of sleep, but I'll often wake up naturally before 8 hours have passed. I also have higher sleep needs than the average person, because I do a lot of exercise.
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>>523674332
I need 9 hours, fuck off kike. Also not working in my sleep with the brain chip either
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Napoleon said 4 hours is all you need, everything else is cope. That is if you have an actual vision for your life.
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>>523674332
I'm a 45 year old neet and can confirm 6 hours is enough if you don't work. only wagies need 8+ hours of sleep pecause they are subjected to more exertion and stress than a human is naturally meant to withstand. that's my truth.
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>>523674332
WORK 2 EXTRA HOURS AND GIVE WOMEN YOUR MONEY MEN
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>>523674332
>Avi
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>>523674332
everyone has a different internal clock. If I am not under the influence of any substances I wake up between 4-6 hours feeling great the entirety of the next day. You have to find your own sleep rhythm which also includes waking up during the right phase of your sleep cycle. You can wake up at hour 6 feeling great (light phase) but then if you stayed asleep for another 30 mins you suddenly wake up feeling groggy, because you woke from a deeper part of your sleep cycle.
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>>523674332
The University where everyone gets at least a B
Even if they’re failures
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>>523674332
>keep a sleep diary to keep track of how you sleep
Fuck off dream stealing jews you're not getting my sleep schedule
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>>523674476
That’s exactly what it is. I used to work on shifts that gave me less than 6 hours to sleep and get back to work. The bosses saw no issue with it. It’s fucking stupid. You should be able to get a rest or they should accomodate you in the building. That job was so fucking stupid. There was this demented old guy who had worked there for 18 years and he could t see any correlation between his fucked up health and the structure of the business and working hours. Just totally resigned to fucking his life and drinking wine all night and rushing back to work half drunk like a fucking idiot. I got out when it got silly.
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>>523675170
>>523675717
Bob Monroe intentionally severed his silver cord in order to reach the source-head of the Construct. He made it back no problem.
But he was already like a Jedi Master at that point so buyer beware and all.
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>>523674332
My kids are 2, 4, 6 and 8. I take what sleep i can
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>>523676005
https://youtu.be/EkpYzumDVaI

I normally would consider linking this channel on /pol a huge FU to Jordan, since he's better than all of us, but in the spirit of the season, Merry Christmas!
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>>523676089
you're due for another soon
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>>523674332
jesus can they be any more obvious
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>>523675614
>/pol/ told me computer games and anime and manga are degenerate.
>Letting some retards on an anime website tell you what to do and how to spend your free time.
You're an idiot. Grab some vidya, anime (as long as it's an anime that has no traps) and manga (Ditto for manga) and get some enjoyment in your life you miserable faggot. Don't let some evangelical tourist retards on here dictate your actions.
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>>523674332
This is because the Harvard medical residents are pushing back on being sleep deprived
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>>523676239
suffering builds character
men aren't supposed to have "fun", that's childish
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>>523676005
I'm gonna call bullshit on Bob being able to control his "soul" post-severence or even being able to sever it himself at all. Once you're free from your cold, you are prey.
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>>523674474
Good way to allow yourself to be possessed by malevolent energies
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>>523676300
>No FUN
>No SLEEPY TIME
>No FREE TIME
>No LEANING
>NEIN NEIN NEIN

Your wagecuck fetish is showing uwu
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>how you sleep
Does it mean LED lights are about to be destroyed for good? Nice.
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>>523674332
no such thing as too much sleep when feminist nazi whores ruined my life
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>>523676300
>suffering builds character
Yes, but like all things, moderation.
>men aren't supposed to have "fun", that's childish
Says who? Women? Psychotic old boomers who are using you as their wageslaveto buy their 9th house to rent out at absurd rates?
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Obviously propaganda to ensure people who survive all the toxic chemicals in the food die before their pensions kick in. A guy sitting in a chair for a living might not notice any harmful effects but anybody moving around all day will feel something is very wrong.
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>>523674332
I usually sleep 4-5 hours and take a nap for a couple hours in the afternoon. One good thing about Canadian winters is all the warm blankets making your bed super comfy.
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>>523675838
basically this is what the article is insinuating
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I sleep for precisely 5hrs 22 minutes a day,any longer and I am overcome with Masterbatory-Shekelberg Syndrome and rape OP in the Astral plane
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>>523674813
Fuck that bird and why isn't that stupid shit mouse eating through the gullet?
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>>523674332
I'm so antisemitic that I sleep just as much as I want to
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I generally need 5 sleep cycles. Low stress modes in my life I can get away with 4. High stress or catching up sleep sometimes takes 6 cycles but that rarely happens.
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I need 1 hour before bed because memories how I almost died starts flooding in when I close my eyes.
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My brain/body know better much sleep I need than some jew
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>>523674332
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>>523674332
I get 4.5 hours a night and have for over 20 years. I don't even set an alarm, I just go to sleep 4 hours and 30 minutes before I need to wake up and I do. Sometimes I even wake up after 3. Everyone is different. Just figure out how much your body needs.
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>You're sleeping too much, goy!
Shut up, faggot.
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>>523674844
>Keep going and you will leave your body
He already said he was suspended above his bed.
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>>523674332
Science died in 1950
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>>523675766
My vision is to sleep.
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>>523675766
>Napoleon said 4 hours is all you need
no wonder the bloke thought his blockade on the anglos or his invasion of russia would succeed. he made his brain swiss-cheese.
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>>523674332
I tell every job that I go to that I will need a good sleep. I am well paid and have a skill set that is sought after and 3 of the last four employers set it up so I get five hours to sleep at night and I told them to fuck off and they looked shocked every single time. I knead to start my own company.
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>>523674332
This, how dare you sleep when you can make some extra money for your boss you fucking lazy goyim.
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>>523674332
Whenever I don't set up an alarm clock I sleep 8-10 hours, so fuck (((Harvard)))
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>>523674332
>peer reviewed
This is just a code word for bullshit at this point.
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>>523674474

Gateway tapes are honeypots to open yourself up to the malevolent forces that elites worship. Later stages of Monroe's tapes and writings ask for the experiencer to "accept" the "power" and "will" and "direction" of any potential "guides" people encounter. Be incredibly skeptical of things that ask you to give yourself to something on a soul/mind level. This includes basic shit like advertisements. Even more worth consideration when in dream-states.
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>>523676300
>suffering justifies life
Slave morality on display here
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>>523674332
>oy vey goyim you don't think you really need 8 hours of sleep do you?
Now that the jews have deprived everyone of their 8 hours of leisure time, next up on the chopping block is your 8 hours of sleeping time.
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>>523680924
Do the jews ever work besides counting money?
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>>523674332
I feel good on 6.
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lets defund harvard for 10 years

just for fun
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6-7hrs is good for me. If I get 8 or more feel groggy all day.
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>>523674332
I just got 4 hours of night sleep, I got up to do my things and plan to sleep another 4 hours in the afternoon. My insomnia and weird sleeping habit prevents me to keep a steady job but I don't care, fuck the jews (you wont get my tax money if I don't work, kek).
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>>523681452
The pink ranger got a boob job, looks like
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>>523681008
no, that's why g*d put goyim on earth for, to serve them, it says so in the Talmud
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>>523674332
I sleep 10 hours it's over for me
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>>523674643
when you have no schedule and are free the 6am-10pm life is great tho
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>>523674332
(((they))) want us working longer
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is this the precious research they need billions in funding for
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>>523674332
>Men are sleeping too much, it is weaponized sleeping!
>This forces women to get less sleep than they need to make up for it!
Mensisters... we got too cocky
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>>523674332
>>523674474
>>523674476
>8 HOURS OF SLEEP?
>WHAT DO YOU NEED 6 HOURS OF SLEEP FOR?
>YOU CANT WORK A THIRD JOB IF YOURE GETTING 4 HOURS OF SLEEP?
>HELP POLICE! A MADMAN IS TRYING TO STEAL MY LAST 2 HOURS FROM ME!
>YOULL BE HEARING FROM MY LAWYER ABOUT THAT 16 HOURS OF SLEEP YOU OWE ME!
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Sleeping a lot is deffo bad for you but no one will ever believe me
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8 hours of sleep? whaddya need 6 hours of sleep for any lazybones? your grandpa worked in the coal mines off only 3 hours of sleep a night and he lived to 90!
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>>523674332
I will sleep 9 hours, get fucked.
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>>523674332
>work full-time nights for adult foster care
>monthly meetings always at 2 or 3pm, right in the middle of my sleep
>ask to be excused from these meetings, offer to stay behind after work in the morning to go over meeting so I'm "caught up" without having to get up in the middle of the day
>win-win
>"No. This is important for team building."
>every meeting is just everyone bitching and gossip. All the work info is day shift related only for 99% of it. I add nothing of value and learn nothing of value every meeting
>practically beg them to let me not have to do these. I try to explain how it would be like dling these meetings at 3am for everyone and how everyone would hate that and find it unacceptable
>they get annoyed and act like Im lying about needing to sleep. "Its corporate, its corporate, team building and communication."
>every meeting they look confused and concerned over how tired and miserable I appear...huh..what's HIS problem?
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>>523674332
I naturally need at least 9 hours.

People don't understand. I don't mean ''i like sleeping at least 9''. I literally mean I NEEF 9 hours. If i get only 8, I'm sluggish, weak, more irritable, and my productivity suffers tremendously.
If i get less than 7 i literally can't do my work at all (programming). No, i don't mean i suck at it, I mean my brain won't work, and i just stare at the screen for hours on end.

It took me way too much time to realize this, but now my entire life revolves around getting at least 10ish hours. If i fall asleep late, which i seldom do, i just sleep in to make up for it. There is literally no reason for me to wake up earlier.

Some people are just built different. I'm sure a (((scientist))) would tell me
>akshually you don't NEED to sleep this much, studies show...
And i would strangle them on the fucking spot. Fuck off i know myself, i have 30+ years of data points you intellectual nigger
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/pol/ is so retarded, it’s unreal. Only one person actually read the article. No where does it say 8 hours is too much.
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>>523682260
I hope you kill yourself and your entire family,
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>>523674332
If I only sleep for 6 hours I get a huge urge to sleep a few hours later. I need 8 hours minimum
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>>523682197
File an official complaint with OSHA, and if they fire you, sue for retaliation.
Seriously, former HR guy here. Don't put up with that shit. They need to accommodate night shift. "Team building" is not an excuse.
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>>523674332
i got up at 1pm today
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>>523682432
I was just gonna tell him to go postal
>>523682197
Be the change you want to see in the world
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>>523674332
He's right. Less sleep more prayer, it's good for you.
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>>523682260
You and me both. I had stomach issues, focus issues, anxiety. You name it. Growing up and my first job I never felt good in my entire life. Between school and boomer employers it was miserable.
Got my first remote job with flexible hours. No fucks given. Flexible start times. Nap during the day if I want. I now sleep between 10 and 11 hours. No waking to an alarm. And I am a goddamn juggernaut of the team. I do so much that I'm basically unfireable. Survived four layoffs so far over 7 years.
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>>523674332
6 hours is fine for some men, but we're all different. 8 hours ensures everyone gets enough sleep. you can stop abusing us now, you'll have robots soon and they don't sleep.
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>>523674332
>6 hours is more than enough.
seems about right

i only get tired if i slept 5hrs 59 minutes, that extra minute makes all the difference
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>>523674332
>spoke against the myth that adult men are entitled
wtf? what myth?
everybody knows getting 10 hours of sleep is good for the human health. it's not a man only thing
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I average 6 hours on good nights and on bad nights don’t sleep at all.

My life has become hell.
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>>523683135
If you actually read the article, you would know that OP is a faggot and liar.
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>>523683014
Most cult thing I've read all day
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>>523674332
I believe the several health guys I follow over jewvard.
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This isn't about you. This is about how much they can abuse their slave workers in the prisons.
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>>523682460
Legend
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>>523674332
I can barely get those 6 hours of sleep, I don't feel rejuvenated if I get 6 or 14 hours of sleep. Guess I lost the genetic lottery when it came to good sleep. RIP.
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>>523683067
The robots mean the abuse just gets more efficient
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>>523674332
thats obvious, for workaholics its max 4 and 6 when youre completely exhausted. how can people even sleep for so long and achieve anything. off course they dont.

these are things that wouldnt need to be said not long ago but now its this new set of retards who cant into being human.
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>>523674332
I sleep 6 hours. I go to bed a 8pm and wake up at 2am.
I sleep on a wedge pillow with a neck brace pillow aka wrap around travel pillow, to support my chin so I breath better.
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I need 7.5 to 8.5 hours of sleep and to wake up naturally, an alarm or external noise completely ruins it
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>>523674332
For me it's 12 hours.
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I go to bed at 10pm but cant fall asleep till 2am
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>>523674332
I sleep 9 hours a day
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>>523685005
I know how that feels, bro. It's not even like you can just go to bed later, you can't do anything because you're sleepy but you just can't sleep.
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I usually take a nap before I sleep. I'm I'll nap for like 3 hours, get up and do somethjng for about 2-3 hours, then sleep for about 6.
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>>523682432
It's a "non-profit company," so I wonder if that matters or if that applies to me. I'm not eligible for unemployment if I ever get fired since it's a non-profit, lol.
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>>523680750
that's even in the introduction one, you have to accept the influence of any entity you might encounter, i thought it wasn't a big deal and wouldn't legit invite anything nefarious inside if it was against my intent but i felt a tingling sensation in my forehead a bit after i repeated that to myself and got the flu for a few days lol
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I was doing at least 7 hours to 7 1/2 but I've dropped to 6 hr 30 mins recently. Gonna try to fix that. Been years since I did 8 hours every night
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>>523675963
Having a bad boss is the worst. As a boss I just let my employees do whatever they need to and don't interfere as long as they get the work done, occasionally I help them out just to see how they're doing. It makes my life a lot less stressful and I can focus on other stuff at work.
Never really understood the micromanager approach, even if you have a retarded worker just let the other people deal with him and get him fired, why would you stress over it when you don't have to?
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>>523674474
You are more than your physical body
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>>523675470
sleep snug, smug
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>>523674476
Absolutely this.
>>523682143
Kek and also this by extension
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>>523674332
>Mr. Avi Matthew Solan
why does this kike need to exist?
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>>523674332
Oy! Who's going to fill that wagie cagie if you keep sleeping?
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>>523675045
But all of those things are true
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I get uneasy at night, so I was thinking of getting a weighted blanket
have guys have any experience with that?
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>>523674332
>Men's healthcare specialist
don't care
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>>523685586
No, non profits have to treat their employees by the exact same standards including wage laws and breaks.
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>>523674332
>https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/how-much-sleep-do-you-actually-need-202310302986

uhh you don’t need 8 hours bro, just get high quality sleep between your two jobs and your boss’s nut sack
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>>523674332
>Avi Matthew Solan
and herein lies the problem...
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>>523674332
i know a Doctor who sleeps 5 hours a night. he takes a nap after lunch
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>>523674332
i went bed at 1am and woke up at 11.30 am.

Normies hate the NEET/minimum effort lifestyle when white men do it.
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>>523674332
There are studies that at one point, we had two separate, distinct times we slept. When it got dark, until around midnight, and then around 3 to sunrise if my memory serves, but the total sleeping was roughly 6-9 hours.

you do not need a lot of sleep, sleep clears your brain from the chemicals created throughout the day. If you don't do caffeine, nicotine, etc., there is no real need to clear your brain, until you feel physically exhausted.
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>>523674476
Shit, I get about 4 hours of sleep in that eight hour period unless I dose weed and melatonin before bed...then it might be as high as 7.
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>>523689880
Their alright. I don't like sleeping at night with one because its too heavy to kick off in your sleep if you're too hot and I have no idea how to wash these things.
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>>523674332
8 hours?
I needed to sleep at least 9/10 and sometimes 12 hours
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>>523692186
Yeah when I work out, 8 hours of sleep feels amazing, anything less sucks ass. If you're some lardass soientist who does nothing all day like the guy who wrote this article, 6 hours is probably fine.
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I find it interesting how the health/hippie faction of the 2000s liberals was just thrown under the bus once the liberals finally parasitized most of the institutions in the west and realized that criticizing bugs inevitably leads to criticism of their own failure to govern. We went from green in the sense of wanting more farmlands and green plants all over the country, to green in the sense of exterminating the farmlands and replacing them with windmills and solar panels. We went from people criticizing the low quality of the "capitalist" slop to these same liberals writing articles like this in defense of the slop. Same goes for the antivaxx being a mostly left wing/liberal kind of a thing that the dropout stoners used to shill for, to them being the biggest vaxx shills in modern history the second that Biden became president.
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>>523692468
they were just used as steps to get people in the places they are now, and whoever controls information controls the hylics
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>>523674332
idk what the big deal is i only get 5 hours sleep a night and im fine

im 29 btw
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Jaja yes
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>>523674332
It isn't a number you can just set in stone. Sometimes the body needs 5 hours, sometimes it needs 7 but sometimes it needs 12 or more. It isn't a number you can set in stone.
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>>523674332
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spk2hyt9PRI

I AM ALREADY DEAD. BUT. I DIED HAPPY.
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>>523674332
if the footnotes don't contain picrel then throw the whole study in the trash
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>>523674332
I'll sleep as much as I want, as often as I want, with or without anyone as I want, where I want, and with as many pillows as I want.
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I'm gay
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>>523675567
I get more done lying around in a trance than most people do in their sleep.
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>>523674332
The linked article says barely anything definitive. Where did you get your takeaway? Not reading headlines emotionally, are you, Anon?
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>>523674332
If I'm tired I sleep. If I'm not tired I don't sleep. I sleep as much as I want. I don't need some nerd telling me how much I need to sleep or some annoying beepy machine telling me to stop sleeping.
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GET BACK IN THE FACTORY GOY! YOU CAN SLEEP WHEN YOUR DEAD (SOON)
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I don't work and have no responsibilities. No alarm
Sometimes I go to bed at 12am, other 3am.
I sleep 7-8 hours. I found around 7 to be the sweet spot, but I get tired in the evening.
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healthy sleep is at least 8 hours and probably more like 10



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