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Insurance premiums about to go up 4x

Are you tired of winning yet?
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>>523740201
Get a real job
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>>523740201
and just like that, no republican will ever hold the office of presidency in a very very long time.
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COVID subsidies you mean?

That's what they were. Obamacare was a terrible idea, now it's going to go to what it is supposed to cost, remember - you voted for this. You had to see what was in the bill...
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>>523740201
Why are you going to a (((doctor))) in the first place?
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>mass cancellations of health insurance companies
>companies lose revenue
>shareholders get angry as stocks plummet
>go out of business or severely diminish
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>>523740307
In america you can be sued for 5 figures of medical debt

Better pray to God you WFH and have no chronic illness
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>>523740444
don't forget all the hospitals that are absolutely going to go bankrupt from this, especially in rural areas life for the average american is about to get very very bad.
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>>523740496
damn
well, they voted for this. They didn't want communist healthcare so they won't have communist healthcare. Not my problem!
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this will be the first "2 more weeks" that actually happens
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>>523740496
They can lower their prices to levels that other countries charge, or go broke. Make some money or make no money. It's not the government's job to allow medical price gouging, especially when that money is used to donate to political NGOs that run cancerous politicians. This will take a lot of cash out of DNC coffers.
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>>523740201
>Insurance premiums about to go up 4x

Just cancel your insurance dumbass. The government giving direct corporate subsidies doesn't drive costs down it just let companies raise their prices beyond what the market would normally allow.

Imagine you run an insurance company. You've figured out that you can charge $1000 a month for your product to maximize profits using the supply curve. Then the government declares your product is too expensive so they pass a $500 a month subsidy. What do you do? Keep your prices the same knowing that the market demand dictates people will pay $1000 a month without government aid or do you raise your prices to $1500 a month knowing to make extra money from the government subsidy knowing people will pay the same price.
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>>523740674
just say you don't care that poor americans are going to die stop bullshitting like you give a flying fuck about any of the bullshit you just said.
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>>523740496
You're talking about private clinics, the federal government increased funding to county hospitals.

Private clinics just extract money from people on Medicare and Medicaid for the most part. It's a huge scam with jeet doctors and everything.
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>>523740496
Good hopefully the place clears out even more and there’s less people living out in the woods. I welcome this.
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>>523740201
Yes I'm sick of subsidizing insurance for about 15% of the population
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Trump is very eager to lose the mid terms I guess.
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Id rather my money pay for health insurance for israel
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>>523740674
Private businesses have no reason to lower prices, and they won't. They will close.

Biden wanted price ceilings. Trump wanted freedom. You voted for freedom.
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>>523740945
*AHEM* Kamala you mean? I don't think anybody knew what she wanted. Black Joy? Something.
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>>523740832
Ok good call smart guy
Now the rural hospitals go out of business within months
Rural Niggers spics and gooks now further crowd the hospitals that actually make money and turn them in the red because ENTALA law dictates a patient cannot be turned out for failure to pay
Now what?
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>>523740201

I have insurance.

So, no, I’m not tired of winning.
I do want to see a hell of a lot more leftist deaths.
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>>523741020
you are a fucking idiot your premiums are going to skyrocket because of this you stupid bastard and its going to cost you more than the subsidies you were being taxed for, so how exactly do you think this is a good thing for you?
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>>523740201
>Insurance premiums about to go up 4x
As someone who doesn't have insurance nor ever goes to the doctor, why should I care?
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>>523740736
There are no "country" hospitals, or public ones if that's what you mean. The "country hospital" for my entire region is a private catholic hospital that gives free maternity care to spics paid by an extra 20% they lop onto old people hospice care. Don't like it? Get a reverse mortgage and give the church your house on your death. Seen it happen to a lot of guys.

Trump is taking away healthcare from people, especially rural people who don't have access to modern fully staffed and fully equipped hospitals. Another stimmy check that doesn't beat inflation and goes straight to jews doesn't help this.
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>>523741214
Because the ACA is still law which means you still have an ACA Mandate to pay on your taxes. Which means if you do not have health insurance, the IRS will tax you and take it from your tax refund. Which means, you will owe taxes.
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>>523740496
>rural areas
Honestly good, white trash hicks are a plague on America
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>>523741272
this country is legitimately doomed, lack of healthcare, lack of affordability, lack of family rearing, no futures, a debt that is going to exceed 40 trillion dollars soon, what exactly do people have to be hopeful for, if you were smart like me, you'd be planning to get out of this country before life gets so bad it mirrors the third world. we are heading to south africa levels of incompetence and fast.
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>>523740201
rat sellout he kisses the Netanyahu ring
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>>523740287
>real job
all of those will feature social media background checks which you can't audit or challenge. hope you let the odd genocide on the part of race supremacists slide without comment here and there - you were warned about this back in 2022 or so!
4chan activity falls under that spectrum and no, it won't matter if they can't prove it was you in court because like I said before no auditing. no oversight
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>>523740728
This. It’s exactly what happened with EVs and the subsidies. Government will give you $7k tax write off? Okay great, we’re raising the price by that and marketing the “after rebate” price to everyone.

Every make did this. Just like every American car depreciates far more than a Japanese one because the retail price is never what you actually pay new.
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>>523740201
>vote for populists
>get neolibs
kek
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Not gonna lie, former Trump voter here. This is fucking hilarious watching Trump crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let this guy get the nuclear codes.
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>>523741366
the individual mandate was removed at the fed level in 2019 you uninformed nigger. there are a few states that still have one but the majority do not.
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>>523740201
only niggers use obamacare
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>>523741433
they're hoping for collapse and balkanization. it's the only way around the constitution and its pesky bill of rights. they'd really like it if the US was no longer in the position to host or export the values enshrined in the 4th, 5th and especially 1st and 2nd amendments
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>>523740201
GOOD

STOP FEEDING THE INSURANCE JEW.

Just stop it. You don't need insurance. It's a scam.
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>>523741366
>the IRS will tax you and take it from your tax refund. Which means, you will owe taxes.
I don't file taxes since I don't earn enough to report it.
So again, why should I care?
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>>523741840
the entire immigration issue is also really funny when you realize the entire thing is predicated on having ignorant debt slaves who come here on the promise that they open lines of credit, they don't give a fuck about people seeking a better life in the united states they want unquestioning debt bag holders because the dollar is fucking DEAD BRO and they know the native borns are retreating from society at large and aren't participating in the scam, its not about "white replacement" the entire scam is to have someone to hold the bags so they can keep printing money, and the younger generations are clued in on this because of their brothers, uncles, fathers, who have informed them of this scam and to not participate in it.
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Our only hope is to vote their creatures out of office from the municipal level on up. Replicate the tea party takeover of the Republican party. This will have to be done organically. There are no billionaires on our side.
radicalism plays into their hands. they want destabilization. they want balkanization. they want revolution. they're waiting in the wings with a new and improved constitution and bill of rights (that doesn't actually have any rights in it)
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>>523740496
they literally voted for this lmao
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the best part is that moat people are too retarded to figure out that this entire squabble over ACA subsidies is actually about hobbling newscum's chances of securing the dem nom in 2028
these changes will cost CA billions of dollars in taxes, which means that all of the feelgood gimmie gimmies are gonna go away
which means the retarded dem voter base won't support him, because the socialist policies they desire don't work when there's no taxes coming in
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>>523741366
The fee/tax was removed.
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>>523740496
Try not to jizz your pants when talking about dead rural white people.
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>>523742265
health being the biggest industry is true for basically every state though
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>>523740201
who actually gets coverage through obamacare?
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>>523740360
you all said this in 2012 too.
for a party so worried about fascism, you sure don't seem worried about living in a one-party state
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>>523742403
brother im one of those poor rural people im talking about, the trump admin is signing my death warrant, i get regular infections and i have spinal arthritis what am i supposed to do besides go into crippling amounts of debt i absolutely have no way of paying?
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I haven't had health insurance in three years
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>>523741014
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Literally every single austerity measure debate is poisoned.
> Yeah I think this is a waste of money, cut it!
> No you can't cut it because (moral reason)
> STFU libtard we have to balance the budget

What happens is that they money they make becomes billionaire and Israel gibs. There's no point. I'm checked out every single "austerity" debate where retards think they're going to pay less taxes. It all goes to jews and israel.
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>>523742554
you and your fellow rural retards voted for this hahaha
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I'm on welfare for this affect me?
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>>523742598
>vote for the goyim are cattle and deserve nothing party
>get what you voted for
damn how could this happen
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>>523742523
They want fascism from their side obviously - since it’s the only political party “that makes sense”
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>>523742618
yeah it is pretty funny when you consider me wanting a better life for my countrymen and myself being fooled by republicans ended up being me getting myself killed, i can't afford to pay out of pocket for antibiotics and like i said i get regular infections, won't be long now before another one sets in and this time its actually going to take me out, im scared a little man i don't want to die like this in the richest country on the planet i don't get offended by your laughter you have every right to laugh at my stupidity.
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>>523742561
It is your problem once you get a stroke and die in the ED because Rahul and his 11 kids insisted all of then get checked out for scabies and ear infections
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>>523740832

> I want my taxes to subsidize billionaire jews instead
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>>523742554
Don’t call me brother. I’m not your fucking kinsman. Enjoy depending on altruism to survive for the rest of your life because you refuse to make a plan or take a stand . You’d trade our entire land and people to have the symptoms of your disease eased by jewish medicine that doesn’t actually fix any problems
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>>523742766
Nope. If I get a stroke I'll just croak where ever I'm at. Never been to the hospital. Not my problem
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>>523740201
Johnson is the most obviously blackmailed congressman in America.
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>>523742811
You mean the billionaires that run the medical industry? Those billionaires?
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These doctors make like 200k a year on the low end.
How much debt do you get put in for medical school?
I heard they aren't even accepting white male candidates these days because they want us all dead from brown incompetence.
Everyone blames the drug companies and insurance companies though
I mean hospitals aren't cheap buildings and the lowest paid people are EMTs and shit, the ones that ACTUALLY SAVE YOUR LIFE.
But its because Tylenol is like $50 a pill at the hospital.
Did Tylenol tell the hospital to charge that much?
If there was an American holocaust, the hospitals would become the death camps.
EVERYONE TRUSTS THE HOSPITAL, EVERYONE TRUSTS THE DOCTOR
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>>523742720
No, every cuckservative thinks that by cutting these services: they'll have more money in their hand and everyone will be able to afford the previously "Free" stuff with the difference. The thing is the government just immediately fills the gap they made with military and billionare gibs.
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>>523742523
wokism was explicitly designed to address that issue. its primary function was to disgust the working class away from the democrats. they had to amend the smith-mundt act to make the drive possible
most of the gen x and all of the millenial cohort were united by popular culture. the movies and video games they all grew up with. black kids and white kids and asian kids loved pokemon and dragon ball/z. from this unity sprang OWS and the SOPA/PIPA protests. hence gamergate. hence wokism. hence the deliberate perversion of beloved and unifying IPs like star wars and star trek.
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>>523742811
That’s what you keep asserting. You don’t work a job or do anything but parasite for a living so you don’t know about the overtime tax break, the payroll tax cut, or the investment into American workers. My family is surviving right now off a SpaceX order for a million starlink satellites that must be made by American citizens - fully vetted. You fucking democrat shill. You’d rather my family die for being white - you even imported third world niggers to replace me
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>>523740201
I signed up for an ACA plan a couple weeks ago. My monthly premium is $0 a month with a $1,900 federal subsidy. A payment of $0 is due January 1, 2026. Watch that shit flip to a payment of $1,900 due. I will have to cancel the insurance. They'll probably still hang me for the bill and ruin my credit score. Thanks Maga Mike. Republicunt extinction will be popcorn kino next year.
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Obvious troll. Ignore
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>>523742996
Once Trump invades Venezuela you will get swarmed by 3rd worlders that you despise instead of reigning in the greedy corpos prarsites like Elon and bezos who wants to continue importing jeets and chinks because they save money instead of saving the white race lol
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>>523740287
Try finding one thats not McDonald's or Walmart dipshit.
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>>523740360
More like we'll repeal the affordable care act and then Democrats will be done for
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>>523742996
So will those government subsized sattelites be "free" free for everyone to use when they get launched. As far as i'm ware elon's just going to sell the service full price because he's a fucking jew. Things like national parks are cheap because Americans already pay for most of it.
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>>523742830
i have never once taken advantage of the system, i suffered in silence basically my entire life, i could have done all the scams that everyone else does in my situation, abuse the disability system, the welfare system all of it and i never did, once every couple of months i'd get myself over to the local hospital for a run of antibiotics just to ease the pain of the constant infections and spinal problems i have i feel like such an idiot for not abusing the system like everyone around me was at least then i'd have something to fall back on, instead being a decent person ended up being the thing that takes me down, im worried about my future and im not sure what to do once my insurance is cut, not that any of you give a fuck nor should you, let this be a lesson to the good people out their, nice guys finish last don't be a nice guy take advantage of every opportunity that comes your way and abuse the fuck out of it, lest you end up like myself.
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>>523740732
I'm not a piggy bank nor am I responsible for every single poor american lmfao
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>>523743422
all that money is going right to isreal, the military and whatever else trump funds you aren't getting a single dollar of that money back you idiot.
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>>523740201
if obamacare quadruples in price (it wont) people would be retarded to keep buying it
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>>523743327
Being a nice guy only works in a high-trust society. In this society, you cut throats. It's a free for all dog eat dog gangster's paradise.
Capitalism has made it this way. Old fashioned fascism will take it away.
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Just boycott all insurance
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oh no, those FIRE fags will have to go back to work for insurance instead of leeching off everyone else
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And Democrats projections for House seat pickups in the 2026 midterms just went from 15-40 to 30-60
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>>523743508
>I'm not a piggy bank
I don't support that and that seems to be happening regardless if this shit didn't get removed either. Regardless, seems like its time for you to get a job lmao
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>>523740201
If you want a good measure of actual inflation, compare ACA premiums to 2016.

American Rescue Plan Act -> Inflation Reduction Act -> ???
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>>523740496
>rural areas
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>>523740201
SOVIET SOCIALISM NOW.
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Private health insurance does not have a right to exist. It’s parasitic rent seeking behavior and removes the consumers from the free market.

One sentence solves healthcare.
>IF ITS NOT REAL CAPITALISM ITS COMMUNISM AND TELLING BUSINESSES WHAT TO DO ISNT VERY LIBERTARIAN OF YOU!
And if you won’t cannibalize an infant you ought to go vegan - and other jewish myths.
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>>523744122
no one wants to hire someone with spinal issues like i didn't think of that already.
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>>523740674
>They can lower their prices to levels that other countries charge, or go broke.
Good news! It's the latter.
These subsidies were actually keeping medical clinics and hospitals open in remote and rural areas that wouldn't otherwise be financially viable.

Better not get into an accident in flyover country, because they'll have to bring the helicopter out for a chance at your survival!
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>>523740728
>cancel subscription
>prices go up to cover losses

You didn't think this through.
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I haven't had insurance for years. The 700 dollar fine during taxes is less than what I would pay yearly for something I never used.
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>>523742618
Who else was against white genocide? Oh yes nobody. Kamala was explicitly on team "white isnt a race, and white people shouldnt exist".

We’ll see what people do when they get hungry.
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Remove the individual mandate and allow everyone to open an HSA account. Why pay $700/month just to pay the doctor $100 co-pay for 10 minutes I hostile when you could just pay $100 out of pocket.
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>>523740287
it's pretty retarded you get handed insurance by your job and you don't get a say in it. so much for free market
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Do redditors and shills have a discord where they all link 4chan threads and post pretending to be us?
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>>523743075
Trumpcare will be superior.
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>>523740372
You want to talk about COVID subsidies how about Trumps PPP loans that were the biggst mass fraud in American history and every retard with a small business got free tax payer millions for listing fake employs
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>>523740201
>Increases in ACA subsidies expire
>Rich bum insurance prices go up 4x
Good.
Sounds terrible if you don't know who uses ACA subsidies.
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>>523740360
hahahaha
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>>523744706
Probably. That's probably how they took over reddit too.
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>>523744480
>These subsidies were actually keeping medical clinics and hospitals open in remote and rural areas that wouldn't otherwise be financially viable.
Source? I don't even think you know 1 thing about these subsidies.
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>>523744676
>Free market
>Subsidized insurance
Dude?
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>jacking ip healthcare costs for millions in the middle of a trash economy
Every day I'm more convinced Trump only won so he can do the neocohen Zionist shit the Jews want, poison the right wing's reputation for generations, and guaranteed the leftist Blackrcok shit the Jews want continues unabated
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>>523744946
Do you realize who those subsidies were being paid to? Mangionie would be pissed at you.
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>>523740201
All part of the plan to kill care ownership. You WILL own nothing.
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Paying so you don’t have to pay

Smart
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>>523744884
Liberals believe the ACA magically turned Appalachian backwoods shamanic witch doctors into board-certified cardiologists
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>>523744924
having a market is a lot better then some on handing you a product and telling you this is your only option. Also MAGA didn't have problem with subsidies when it's farmers. Funny how special interests always get their cut
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>>523745019
What?
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>>523744946
They didnt count on a mass noticing

Jews will not survive if they do not adopt white supremacy
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>>523744767
Uh yeah, that was bad too...? But so are these.
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>>523745010
>Do you realize who those subsidies were being paid to?
I would rather pay subsidies to insurers and have people get healthcare than pay no subsidies to insures and have people lose healthcare because GOP kikes still haven't come up with the outline of an imagination of a plan to replace ACA after 12 years of bleating about it (because they don't want to, they want you to suffer).
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>>523745067
OK so tell me who is eligible for ACA subsidies.
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>>523745165
>I would rather pay subsidies to insurers and have people get healthcare
Which people? Please be specific
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>>523744884
Source it yourself, man.
The reality is that areas with low populations aren't worth servicing when a small clinic costs millions of dollars a year in salaries.

Supply and demand my dude, there isn't enough profit to keep the lights on so they're telling you to drive 100 miles to the nearest population center worth their time and expertise.
In the past before we artificially limited the amount of people who could become doctors, and then weighed them down with insane litigation insurance this wasn't really a problem since doctors would open their own clinics.
Now the overhead is way too large.
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>>523741272
county you fucking moron
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>>523740201
>Insurance premiums about to go up 4x
who gives a shit, stop going to the drug dealer
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Time to drop the insurance
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>>523743885
Fuck off kike
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>>523745067
>>523744946
>>523745165
Bros, let's chat here. You're stupid faggots and you need to fuck off.
To be eligible for ACA subsidies you need to
1. not be offered other insurance
2. not be eligible for Medicaid
3. Make under over 138% of the FPL and under 200%
This shit is insurance for your landlords, retards. Get cheaper better insurance through your jobs.
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>>523740201
>That means higher insurance premiums will go into effect
OBAMACARE TRIPLED THE COST OF INSURANCE NATIONWIDE
IN NO UNIVERSE WOULD IT BE REASONABLE TO DEDUCE THAT AN END TO OBAMACARE WOULD DO ANYTHING BUT REDUCE PREMIUMS TO PRE-OBAMACARE LEVELS
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>>523745165
What's it like being a childish liberal?
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>>523745226
>Source it yourself, man.
These subsidies go to the insurers and the people who obtain them must meet specific criteria. There's a small pool of people eligible for ACA subsidies, so no, you're wrong.
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>>523744676
Indeed, USA govt spends more on healthcare per capita and overall than any nation earth; $10,000 and $1.7 trillion.
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>>523745247
They can't help themselves, urbanite scum think anyone who lives in a suburb is rural
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>>523740201
>Insurance premiums about to go up 4x
They will go D O W N
Obamacare INCREASED the cost of insurance.
The end of Obamacare will END THAT INCREASE the cost of insurance.
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>>523740496
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>>523740360
you act like there are different parties or people to vote for, you vote for AIPAC blue or AIPAC red and they are ultimately the same thing. The only difference is voting differently from your family will cause arguments on the thanksgiving table
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>>523740287
fpbp
>>523740360
You've been saying that since 2008
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>>523740201
no one is paying that much lmao, these companies will go out of business over night. Jews are fear mongering.
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>>523745612
>since 2008
bro they said this back in 1996. Lefties are simply retarded and full of AIDS
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>>523740496
Surely this time, right reddit?
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>>523740496
Buying a DMe device through insirance cost x4 expensvie than buying through out of pocket. Fucking bloated system.
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>>523745548
True, but only one party is telling jews to fuck off, and that's Republicans by not making the COVID ACA subsidies permanent.
Also the Big Beautiful Bill. expanded plans eligible for HSA is another middle finger to jews.
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>>523740360
The ACA is Obamacare, not that any of you 80 IQ niggers that are somehow allowed to vote realize that. Obamacare absolutely nuked American healthcare.
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>>523741366
It's unconstitutional declared by woke sc
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>>523740201
Whatsurance whatiums? Quit talking like a gay boomer, you dork, no one cares about that shit
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>>523740201
Oh no, I don’t have to pay for your shit anymore, how will I ever recover.
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>>523741272
COUNTY hospitals you illiterate twat.
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>>523745349
>This shit is insurance for your landlords, retards. Get cheaper better insurance through your jobs.
There are mass layoffs going on right now you out of touch retard.
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>>523745904
OK and what insurance do you get when you're laid off?
Is it:
1. ACA
2. COBRA
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>>523740201
>Are you tired of winning yet?
I'm not an American. I'm just a western woke tears enjoyer. So far, so good. Trump keeps delivering your tears even here.
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>>523745876
you have to pay for israel instead
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>>523745904
>mass layoffs
From a handful of huge corporations, dumbass. Not from 99% of the workforce.
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>>523740201
Democrats made this law and if you dtupid niggers are too stupid to realize it ALREADY cost 4x that in the forst place then youre just going to get killed when we finally elect a new hitler you stupid niggers
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>>523740201
>wagies have to pay 4x while I get free healthcare and NEET on the government dime for life

Zogbotbros... we won.

I think I'll call up the VA tomorrow and tell them they need to pay for my asian happy ending massages from now on. Its for my mental health you know.

You kikes wouldnt dare tell us no. A bunch of vets telling everyone the VA sucks and doesn't take good care of vets while recruiting is at an all time low and you are trying to start WWIII? Bad move.

>we will just draft you goyim

Good luck. I manage zoomers. They give even less of a fuck about this country than millenials did plus they are all disloyal cowardly spics anyway. They will all weasel their way out of it trust me on that.
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>>523740728
> The government giving direct corporate subsidies doesn't drive costs down it just let companies raise their prices beyond what the market would normally allow.
What if we made those price increases illegal?
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>>523746041
And that has nothing to do with ACA, since if you're laid off you're eligible for COBRA.
And a jobless mf'er can't afford ACA even with the subsidies, unless they're pretty well off.
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>>523740201
For those that thought that ACA was ever going to be extended after all that has happened, you have no one to blame for yourself.
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>>523745954
In COBRA you fucking pay for the entire premium retard. Still out of touch.
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>>523746087
>What if we made those price increases illegal?
Then you'd create a situation in which prices were inflated to account for the price caps.
Such as what's happening now, where you can only have like 20% profit margin max, so to meet YOY goals you inflate the sector.
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>>523746230
>Then you'd create a situation in which prices were inflated to account for the price caps.
How could prices inflate if increases in price are illegal?
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>>523746218
Yes you do. Guess what? If you have no income, you're not eligible for ACA subsidies since it's income based though.
Get your Medicaid, fucker.
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>>523740728
This. Include regulations artificially restricting supply and that’s why healthcare is expensive everywhere.
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>>523746258
You simply charge more for medical equipment and services. Like $2,000 t rent a pair of crutches you can but at Walgreens for like $50.
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I know you democrats here are trolling. You know people are just gonna be killing you all one day right?

Niggers will kill you, right wingers will kill you. You are antagonizing the only people who theoretically wouldnt kill you and siding with niggers and drug dealers.

You are dead
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>>523744488
You don’t understand markets. If demand drops, prices drop.
>>523744884
Perhaps regulations make the cost of a medical centre far above it ought be. Deregulate. Worked in the past.
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>>523746129
Tell me about it. I got hit with the ObamaCare tax in the last year before Trump got rid of it. Cheapest plan I could get was over 1000 bucks a month. Couldn't possibly afford it, so I had to pay extra taxes for being too poor. That alone is the reason I will always support Trump, just for overturning that horrifically unfair bullshit.
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>>523746318
And i forgot to mention, you trick dumbass liggerals into advocating for you to manufacture consent.
Such as right now in this very thread, liggerals are actually advocating for more money for billionaire insurance companies.
And I'm fully aware you literally don't care if you're right or wrong, and you're trying to win an election, but damn, you'd think you could at least stick to what you believe a tiny bit in your quest for power.
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>>523746527
There is no debating them. They need to die
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>>523746505
>Perhaps regulations make the cost of a medical centre far above it ought be. Deregulate. Worked in the past.
Could be true.
>>523746509
Same. If I ever see Obama I'm going to remind that nigger he owes me $500.
And guess which states have decided to make the individual mandate law thus ensuring profits for their insurance buddies?
You'll never guess:
1. Red States
2. Blue states
3. The absolute worst blue states and DC
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>>523746584
They do. Unfortunately, they are in a better mental space to kill us first. We have to become as mentally unhinged as they in order to have a chance.
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>>523742040
>maga
>a nigger
Kek
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>>523746584
May St. Manigone smile upon you.
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>>523746652
Evil people have always been more ready to use violence. This is the same problem as has existed forever

In the past we saw these people and killed them on the spot for hundreds of years. Its coming back
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>>523740201
I had a minor set back this last year and just applied. $80 bucks a month it says. Goddamnit the first time I get approved when I don't actually have insurance and when I need it and fucking THIS shit happens
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>>523740728
>The government giving direct corporate subsidies doesn't drive costs down it just let companies raise their prices beyond what the market would normally allow.
Most people are too stupid to understand this very basic truth.
Giving the government your money so they can give it to corporations is a big part of why the modern world is fucked and why we're spiralling into techno-feudalism.
The parasites will both always demand more in return for less.
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>>523746710
That stupid arab would have advocated for obamacare. Torture him to death
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>>523740201
fuck yeah, tired of bug people being here; go home.
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>>523746797
I don't know if he would've or not. He seems well-educated. Perhaps he understands the scam?
There's a few of them going on inflating the cost of various forms of medical insurance funded by the government.
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>>523746853
If that retarded subhuman wop should have killee anyome he should have killed a liberal congressman
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>>523746710
Rapeable
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>>523746917
Killing a CEO is about the same thing. The "liberal congressmen" are on their payroll.
Have you seen the memes about corporations after the Occupy movement? They're true. So Democrats get together with businesses who fund their campaigns and they brainstorm on, "How can we make our retarded puppets believe our bullshit?".
It's also important to stop calling them "liberal" these people aren't liberals. They love being called liberals too, so it's best to ensure you call them leftists, liggerals, or Democrats.
The Rush Limbaugh left-right dichotomy died shortly before he did, and it's the worst thing about his legacy.
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Obamnacare
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>>523742745
so much this sister, im a cruise missile for coconuts kamala brat now
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>>523740201
lmao not MY premiums
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MAGA is getting decimated in 2026
Lolol keep on doing what you’re doing
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>>523740444
Checked and doomer-pilled.
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>>523740201
Are the mandates that we are forced to buy it still in place? Weird, but I would think that if the government is forcing me to buy a thing, they should pay for it. Would that be communism?
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>>523741425
Post hand with timestamp
t. Wyomingite
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>>523740201
Remind me why insurance companies, which are the original health care problem, should get free tax money?
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>>523745389
Who is overwhelmingly on obamacare, dude?
It's literally poor people who live in the boonies where the greatest prospect is working at dollar general.
So no, you're wrong.

We went from people saying this is about giving illegals healthcare to
>lol who gives a fuck it goes to the insurer and its just a small group of people anyways xd
Jacking up the price of premiums means people can't afford to go to the doctor which has the knock on effect of clinics closing from lack of patronage.
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>>523749418
Because they also have video of pedophiles raping children.
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>>523740360
Good
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>>523740287
I can't wait to watch livestreams of people like you being strung up on lampposts. They ought to print out your posts and attach them to the post like signs on a crucifixion tree. It annoys me that people like you will claim you never shilled or smugly supported the Jewish system. You'll act like you were on our side the whole time, and you'll cry and blubber your innocence. But the people won't listen and up you'll go. Up, up, up!
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>>523744673
individual mandate's been gone since trump's 1st term, at least on the federal level
>>523742473
yes but CA's governor is gunning for the nom, and he's going to have to court the socialists to earn it. that means enacting major welfare policies, which cost lots and lots of money and generate almost no return
the loss of tax revenues from the loss of ACA subsidies (from the subsidies themselves, dropping and reduction in coverages, the reduction in hospital visits and the nonpayment of medical debts) means that newscum will have to tax the shit out of someone to fund the policies the dem electorate want to see, or risk losing their interest and the nom going to kamala instead
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>>523740372
Obamacare was a great idea butchered by Republicans in congress because they worship Lobbyist dollars.
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>>523749584
>i can't wait to (sit on my ass and let someone else do the dirty work)
you won't do shit, faggot
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>>523740201
My plan if I get really sick and need surgery is to go to the ER and sperg out a little then lay down on the floor and refuse to get up until they treat me.
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>>523749782
>actually, taxing people to force them to pay for health insurance is a good thing!
nigger, go look up the names of the people who actually wrote the language of the obamacare bill, and then look up their employment history
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>>523749861
take a swing at a cop and threaten his life. you'll get room and board for a decade, your medical bills covered by the state, and all the dick you can suck
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>>523740728
What about people who are sick and need their insurance tho retard?
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>>523746584
violence is the low IQ way out. if you don't agree with health insurance being higher than your house note then use your brain to outsmart them. ex: when you get sick just go to the hospital and refuse to leave until they help you. what are they gonna do physically throw you out on the street?
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>>523740201

When ACA was implemented premiums for private insurance went up because they were paying for the unhealthy and poor. Now that the subsidy is disappearing shouldnt premiums go down? What is the reasoning for this?

Bonus points: Answer me without including the word Jew in your post.
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>>523749480
>Who is overwhelmingly on obamacare
No, dicksucker, the poos are on Medicaid.
I don't know how many more times I can say this.
>We went from people saying this is about giving illegals healthcare to
And that's what Democrats wanted.
>Jacking up the price of premiums means people can't afford to go to the doctor
Once again, the ACA pool is pretty small (ICHRA is growing though). Now shut the fuck up, coon. I'm literally an insurance agent, so i can kneecap your stupid horseshit nearly immediately.
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>>523746265
lol good luck with getting through the broken system that is Medicaid.. kind of part of the reason why we have Obamacare in the first place you dumbfuck.
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>>523750034
>When ACA was implemented premiums for private insurance went up because they were paying for the unhealthy and poor. Now that the subsidy is disappearing shouldnt premiums go down? What is the reasoning for this?
But the ACA subsidy isn't going away, it's returning to pre-CONVID levels.
So, it's impossible not to include the word "jew" in this post.
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>>523750086
ACA is worse. And you know what? Medicaid is the same fucking thing administered by the same companies.
Do you know anything about this subject at all?
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>>523750032
they'll ask you to leave, and when you refuse, they'll call the cops and have you removed from the premises for trespassing
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>>523750146
Protip for all the nigger brained retards:
It's illegal for the emergency room to turn you away. Even if you have a paper cut.
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>>523750032
>violence is the low IQ way out

I might have said this years ago but in the modern day there is no political solution. You cant simply debate or vote your way out of the current predicament. A chunk of the rich and politicians have to die for the rest of us to prosper. The people telling us we arent in Weimar are the ones who put us in Weimar and have a golden parachute out of the mess.
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>>523750105

Ok, now answer me with the word Jew.
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>>523749306
now, pull the US out of NATO and see how that all changes
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>>523750182
And to expand on this, it makes hospitals seethe to have to treat you for free.
That's why they want universal care.
Most normal men will never need any serious medical treatment until around age 50.
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Must suck to not be a veteran right about now
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>>523750234
I did earlier in the thread.
But jewish tricks are the number one cause of the high price of healthcare. Jewish tricks being standard business practices.
I simply don't feel like going into it right now though.
Just ask yourself what you'd do as an insurer to maximize your profits whilie thinking of the AcA individual mandate.
Let your imagination run with that and see where you end up.
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>>523750032
If you get really sick the ER can’t really do much you need a specialized treatment for most things they are seriously wrong. Beyond stitches or the common cold your normal doctor isn’t going to do shit they will just have you stay for a couple days then kick you out and send you a bill. Also guess what you sure as fuck can’t afford if you are really sick.
T. 320k a year for my treatment
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Dying doesn't cost a penny, at least for my inanimate husk. Don't save me. That shit is expensive. My whole body is worth 42 cents. I ain't insuring this useless bag.
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>>523750146
so the cops will take you to jail and then have to take you back to the hospital to provide medical care for your surgery. see how that works?
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>>523750293
the VA burned my grandpa so badly with a radiation treatment that he bled from his asshole for the rest of his life
enjoy the quality of care that can only be provided by people who can't be fired for anything, ever
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>>523740728
>people will pay $1000 a month without government aid or do you raise your prices to $1500
Those numbers are quaint. Obamacare insurance cost more than this in 2014.
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>>523750058
>ACA pool is pretty small
>literally 1/5th of Americans are covered through it
>27pbtid
Yeah I'm sorry I just...don't think you're telling the truth is all.
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>>523750396
or you can do a small crime and get locked up for a few weeks when you need surgery. thats a lot cheaper than a $200,000 medical bill.
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>>523740945
>Biden wanted price ceilings
He had 4 years to do it and did the opposite.
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>>523750454
wrong, anon, the cops will simply leave you on the street, as simple trespass is a misdemeanor and they can decide not to arrest you, which is exactly what they'll do
you'll have to commit a felony and force them to arrest you if that's your plan
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if these subsidies were enacted because of covid, does that mean people were paying 4x before covid?
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>>523750485
Im not paying shit the most I would pay for health insurance is probably $250/mo. I was quoted over $1000/mo they better be giving me daily cock sucking for that. Healthcare is the biggest scam in America. Dont pay their extortion fees just outsmart them.
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>>523750543
They'll throw me out on the street and I'll just keep walking back into the hospital and laying on the floor until they give up and treat me. I have unlimited amounts of pettiness.
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>>523742501
The morbidly obese niggers and illegals
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>>523741014
What shithole state do you live in where there are rural browns?
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>>523749584
>I can't wait to sit on my ass and act smug about my snickering fantasies
Kek pathetic retard. You're experiencing a humiliation ritual knowing you can't do shit like the bitch you are.
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>>523749796
I know, that's what I said, retard. I'm going to watch zoomers and based Muslims hang kikes shabbos fags like you on a livestream while I eat salt n vinegar chips.
I don't have to do shit. Everyone already hates you, lol.
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>>523750196
>I might have said this years ago but in the modern day there is no political solution. You cant simply debate or vote your way out of the current predicament. A chunk of the rich and politicians have to die for the rest of us to prosper. The people telling us we arent in Weimar are the ones who put us in Weimar and have a golden parachute out of the mess.
Unfortunately shit will just get more brown, corrupt and degenerate. The time for reform or violence was in the 40-50s when America was still a white country. Shit is past the point of saving. Fuck America and fuck the jews
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>>523740360
You are assuming voters have any kind of long term memory.
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>>523740201
I'm not on Obamacare. I won't have issues. Illegals and sluts with multiple baby daddies will.
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>>523750648
I literally just watched some based Muslims plug a bunch of beach kikes in Australia, so yes, I WILL be giggling and sitting on my ass watching it all when it happens again KEKKERS
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>temporary covid subsidies are ending
>this is bad
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>>523740201
This mainly affects ACA shit. Everyone else's insurance was going up anyway. The ACA subsidies was only supposed to be a temporary COVID thing to begin with.
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>>523740287
You will not say the same thing to a corporate welfare leech that sucks on the teats of the taxpayer funded contracts (Elon, Thiel etc) because you are a massive cuck
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>>523750612
it costs them nothing to call the cops, anon, and the cops are getting paid even if they're just sitting next to the door waiting for you to come back. what happens when they physically block you from entering the hospital? if you push past them, touch them in any way, they can hit you with felony assault of an officer, since you'd be 'assaulting' them in furtherance of a crime (trespass) and then your ass is grass. sure, your hospital bills are all paid for, but you'd better cozy up to your racial allies real quick, and if you can't fight, you'll buy your protection with your bunghole for the better part of a decade.
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>>523743075
In what universe is $1,900/mo a legitimate insurance premium for a healthy adult?

$22,800 a year without any care and you still have to pay copay and deductible. Plus they will deny any lifesaving care the moment you actually try to use the insurance.

You should be owning 1/10th of a private doctor on retainer at that cost.
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>>523743223
Kek you'll kill York rural white trash voting base. Go ahead and do it you retard. I am tired of saving rural retarded white trashbworh my tax dollars. Let them do surgeries on their own with their redneck technology. Fuck them
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>>523740201
lol. the premiums are NOT going up, it's just that now the taxes you were forced to pay at gunpoint are not going to be used to pay for it.

Also keep in mind the prices do not necessarily go up, your money is just constantly losing value every day.
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>>523750655
>i won't do shit
thanks for proving my point, limp dick
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>>523750507
Kek you are massively retarded if you think they give you treatment like that in prison. A lady with MS got caught exaggerating her illness and they ended up sending her to prison for a year and in that year the didn’t give her the treatment she needed and of course she got worse and ended up more disabled then when she even exaggerated in the first place. So fuck off retard no they don’t care about sick people if they end up in prison.
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>>523740287
>just go get a job during the worst period of unemployment since the great depression bro
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>>523746258
Increase (((expenses))) so profits (((stay the same))). Also you're a retarded faggot who doesn't understand that the politicians who voted for healthcare laws know exactly what they are doing and are intentionally making the system exploit the people for insurance profits. And then retards like you believe the politician's lies where they pretend otherwise.
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This is why I support Trump ironically and I’m not actually a republican. This kind of shit doesn’t actually save the government any money and is just mean spirited and cruel. Democrats aren’t much better in that they are destroying federal assistance with totally unchecked immigration from the third world. Neither of them have the balls to go after the rampant waste in inefficiency in the government and the legions of sheboons making 75k a year doing nothing of value. Instead they go after the easy targets of some of the most vunerable and cast aside members of society. If god exists these people are hell bound.
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>>523750032
They’ll garnish your wages destroy your credit etc. if you plan on living in poverty your entire life that’s a good strategy, but if you ever want a decent job house family etc you are fucked if you do that
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>>523752153
There's actually a really neat trick you can do to escape the poverty samsara: stop being poor
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>>523752351
I grew up upper middle class in one of the most well connected towns in America
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>>523752537
based... jew?
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>>523752006
You support him because of how cruel this is?
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>>523752641
I’m an anarcho socialist

>safety net for everyone irregardless if they want to work (basically a jail cell with food and healthcare)
>after that total free market free for all libertarianism may the best man win

I’m also anti racist and pro segregationist (just not enforced segregation)
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>>523752715
I voted for him before he started taking people’ s healthcare away. He’s always been on a short leash with me though.

2004 libertarian at age 18
2020 ironic maga supporter when they sent a ballot to my house

My great grandfather was born in queens the same year as trumps father.
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The only reason they are getting away with this is because no one follows or understands the news except boomers and poltards. Once 5 million rednecks realize they don’t have healthcare anymore things are going to get really ugly.
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>>523740201
>for aca recipients
Good. They can finally pay their fair share.
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>>523752751
You had me right up until
>irregardless
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>>523753084
>AH GOTSUH *huff* PAY FUH MAH OWN *huff* INSULIN?!?!?!
>WE *huff* MARCH!
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>>523740201
Keep the winning happening, get a real job
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>>523752858
>voted for nigger Obama in 2012
>didn’t vote in 2016 was pissed they fucked Bernie
>didn’t vote in 2020
>jill stein in 2024 because it made me sad to see kids being bombed by jews
I could never vote for the endless cruelty of the right. I would take the most insane blue haired tranny over anyone on the right. Those evil lunatics don’t belong anywhere in a position of authority. Right wingers should just fuck off and go live in the woods like they larp about wanting everyone to leave them alone.
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OHNONONONONO
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>>523753266
I voted libertarian in 04 because they were the only people not trying to take my video games away. In 2020 I voted Trump because he made a lot of my enemies so mad they died.
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>>523740832
I make $14 an hour stocking grocery store and can't afford health insurance otherwise.

My marketplace plan starts in january, same for everyone else who applied. we won't see this expxiration change healthcare premiums until the follow cycle with plans locked in next december and starting january 1st 2027. plenty of time till then to see plan for it (by getting a better job)
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>>523753411
Are you sick? If you aren't sick what exactly are you going to the doctor for? So they can say well, you're well.
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The voting public has absolutely no idea what insurance lobbies do. And you keep giving jobs to the same idiots time and again getting lobbied. You deserve nothing. Midterms you could unemploy every single member of Congress up for re-election. Instead, you stay home and Agnes votes for the same person so he keeps his job 40 years. You are doing it yourselves. Stop fucking whining.
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the government (my tax dollars) get significantly overcharged by health companies which you can see by how fucking expensive my plan is paying it myself vs through marketplace, the gov is charged hundreds more for the same plan.

>>523753453
I have ADD and take expensive medication (adderal XR 20mg and lexapro). I have to get piss tests (to make sure im not selling it) and blood tests regularly which would cost a fuck ton without the insurance.
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Little Mike
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>>523744480
Fuck them. They need to get what they voted for. They can die lol
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>>523753595
Health insurance is not to save you money on pills it’s to prevent you from losing your house when you get cancer
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>>523753674
Primary residences are immune from bankruptcy.
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>>523741014
The filename is too long, you have altered it to appear 4chan esque.
You're a pedophile
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“Mike gives the best blowjobs”
-Trump
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At least ISRAEL and JEWS get everything they want from MAGA Kike Johnson
Happy Channakuh, goyim
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>>523740201.

Rs won.
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>>523753366
I couldn’t ever do the lolbert thing. I was never manipulated by culture war distractions about muh vidya to vote for evil retards. It seems like a silly issue to pick the leader of the free world over. So since you’re an anarchist do you have good music? Usually you guys have good tunes
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>>523753784
Literally mogged by a rabbi

This is the man who is the face of white men in America? The diminutive twerp who looks like a rabbi could beat him up? I knew Louisiana was full of southern dandy cocksuckers Mike but you take it to a whole other level.
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>>523753818
lol look at this zoomer

Libertarians in 2004 were the cool kids internet club back when mass third world immigration had turned America into a circus rather than burning it to the ground. Companies were still hiring white people and the republicans were the party of Jesus not racism

https://youtu.be/wiYFRmNuz9k

Voting libertarian in 04 was like voting for Howard stern
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>>523750665
> Fuck America and fuck the jews
Based fuck ZOGmerica
It exists solely to uphold Jewish supremacy and Israel at this point
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>>523753891
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>>523754061
Mike claims to be 6’1”
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>>523740201
>Government gibs for "Affordable" Care Act will expire.
Oh, no.
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Michael really hates gamers that live with their parents. You know the cod lobby types that say nigger and make fun of people for stuff like their height.
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>>523745175
The usual parasites.
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>>523753987
No it wasn’t cool back then. You are just an easily manipulated hateful sperg. I’m not a zoomer I’m 31
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>>523753818
imagine being too dense to understand that the response of the media, both gaming and otherwise, to gay merg8 gave people the template to see that the exact same plays from the exact same playbook were being used in the global news media during the run-up to the 2016 election, during the first trump presidency, throughout the entirety of the wuhan flu debacle, and during the run-up to the 2024 election. right down to every outlet using the exact same phrasing despite ostensibly having wildly differing teams of writers, the curated half truths and, with regards to the wuhan flu, the anxiety-inducing subliminal soundtracks that played when anchors would discuss statistics.

imagine not even understanding how your opposition thinks. not even a little bit. imagine thinking that this makes you superior to them.

this is how dumb they think you are. not >>523753818 (You), but you, anon.
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>>523754453
Shut up zoomer scum put on your Covid muzzle and wait to get shot
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I got you some shoes mike
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>>523754515
>video games made me care about politics
It’s so childish that it isn’t even worth a response. Right wing people are very stupid and apparently even more immature than they are stupid. But it is pretty fucking stupid bro
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>>523754860
Fucking Mexican go back to Tijuana you fucking spic

This country was founded because tea prices were too high we fought a civil war over the material to make shirts
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>>523754860
This is Al Bundy he is the average American

Al sits on his ass and watches tv to get away from his whore wife. If you mess with his stories you will find out why he is named after a serial killer.

Fucking spics
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>>523750493
24 million is under 10%, nigga.
And Medicaid insures about 70 million.
>Yeah I'm sorry I just...don't think you're telling the truth is all.
I'm the only one trying to.
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>>523740201
Your $2,000 stimulus check will pay for January.
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>>523740360
Please, Amerikikes are golems with goldfish tier memory. 8 years and they’ll vote for Don Jr, watch.
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>>523755186
And 22 million who reap the benefits of the APTCs (Advance Premium Tax Credits). However, depending on income and size of your household, you can easily make up to 200k a year and be eligible for 50 bucks and be counted in that pool.
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>>523754959
I’m not a beaner but I’m glad they make you angry
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>>523755381
Yeah you are you fucking sombrero wearing mariachi motherfucker
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>>523755354
Pfft. Rich fags aren't getting a $20 coupon to redeem off ACA anymore and Republicans are going to lose?
What's going to be more hilarious is when the sky doesn't fall yet again, a liggerals move onto the next grift.
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>>523755381
Unlike you I remember an America where people mowed their own grass and we somehow survived
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>>523753411
You *Should* be fine. In fact, your faggy little ass should already be enrolled for 2025 at the TERRIFYING NO SUBSIDIES RATE (that affects richfags, which you are not).
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>>523755676
>be enrolled for 2025
*2026
Shits dead after 2025.
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>>523750716
It’s guaranteed to happen many more times because Jews and their hateful demonic shabbos goyim itt have zero shame.
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>>523754860
It’s pretty unbelievable that Xbox COD faggots are the reason for our current Jewish fascism. Now I know why my mom was so against vidya growing up.
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>>523740201
ACA only made it so that companies couldn't decline people for health insurance which sent premiums through the roof, if anything the US needs to stop subsidizing healthcare, everyone does, I live in a country with a subsidized healthcare system and it sucks ass, every chance I get I go private, the waiting list to check my nuts for cancer was 18 months, or I could pony up $200 and get them looked at the next day, that was private care, with no insurance,
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As, hopefully my last post in this totally fucking owed leftypol faggot shill slide thread, I want to throw this out there. If there's fuckers out there who feel intimidate because of Demonigger misinformation, APTCs are still available and many plans are still no cost to you if your income hovers around 138-140% of the FPL.
If you need insurance, or you aren't sure go here: https://www.healthcare.gov/
Don't sign up, you're going to look on the right and click "Browse Plans & Cost" and you'll put in you zip, income and members of your household with your age and you can see the premiums.
If you need additional help with your insurance the Marketplace has navigators who can assist, and Insurance Brokers are thirsty for clients and offer their services for free.

It's not too late to have insurance for 2026. Deadline is January 15th for February 1st coverage.

Also, some of you retarded niggers might live in extra jewish states who have their own marketplace. I'd imagine Healthcare.gov will send you there, but I haven't tested.
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>>523740360
So what you mean is the dems are buying votes with tax dollars, just like ebt.
Give them free shit, then threaten to take it away and see how they vote.



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