Previous: >>523825517Day 1,394 – Daily assessment: understandingwar.org/analysis/russia-ukraine/#research▶Latest>Tanker in Rostov port likely attacked, firepetukhs are hosing>The naval port pier in Novorossiysk is closed due to AIDS>"The goals of the SMO will be achieved unconditionally. If Ukraine don't want to have a substantive discussion, then russia will liberate its historical lands on the battlefield." - monke>russian Minister of Defense once again claimed russia has fully occupied Kupyansk>The US is preparing new sanctions against russian oil in case putin refuses the peace deal>Germany has delivered two Patriot air defense systems, already pledged in August, as well as the ninth IRIS-T system to Ukraine - Pistorius>"The United States is ready to take on legal obligations regarding security guarantees for Ukraine, similar to NATO’s Article 5. This is progress. We will not repeat the mistakes of Minsk." - Merz>Turkish F-16 jets shoot down stray drone over Black Sea>Security Service of Ukraine claims naval drone strike at Kilo class submarine in Novorossiysk>Bilhorod People's Republic getting bombed, drones reached moscow outskirts>Zelensky offered to drop NATO membership for Article 5-style security guarantees>russia’s oil and gas revenues set to fall 50% to lowest level since August 2020>Belarus smuggles 180 reported illegal migrants into Poland from a tunnel, mostly afghans, pakis and jeets>A russian commander burned a medical officer alive for sending injured men to the hospital▶Telegramrentry.org/telosint2023t.me/ukr_pics▶Intelt.me/DeepStateENodin.tradoc.army.mil/WEG (equipment explorer)ukr.warspotting.net (visually confirmed losses)▶Mapsdeepstatemap.live/enliveuamap.com/en▶DISPOSABLE SOLDIER (diary of a RU mobik)TOUR 1: files.catbox.moe/34fuhc.txtTOUR 2: files.catbox.moe/uj2wut.txtTOUR 3: files.catbox.moe/hmyd98.txtTOUR 4: files.catbox.moe/cdenxe.txt
>>523840439TOTAL ZIGGER DEATH
If only you knew how brown things really are
>+2 submarinesLMAO
ty for bake
who will tell ziggers that running face-first into drones is not a good strategy?
>>523840439When will the pigkraine stop losing?
>>523840638Strategy?
>In total, for 11 months of 2025, mortgage loans were issued for 3 579.1 billion rubles, which is 20.9% lower than in the same period of 2024.>For 11 months of 2025, non-earmarked loans were issued for 3 125 billion rubles, which is 43.6% lower than in the 11 months of 2024. >In total, in January-November 2025, 1 554.2 billion rubles were issued for car loans. This value is 28.5% lower than in 2024.>For 11 months of 2025, loans were issued for 8 509 billion rubles, which is 32.7% less than in the same period of 2024.https://frankrg.com/news/po-itogam-noyabrya-2025-goda-obem-vydach-kreditov-sostavil-1-027-mlrd-rubConsumer lending down massively in all areas for the year. Lending only up by ~9% in corporate (below inflation) and up for treasury securities, who must stay solvent mid-war natch. I'm sure the average ruskie pidor is wondering hwy interest rates have been cut by 4.5% at all...tl;dr- Total Credit Death for thee, but not for me.
>>523840638it is a good strategy
>>523840648when will the bangladesh stop losing?
>>523840439>"The goals of the SMO will be achieved unconditionally. If Ukraine don't want to have a substantive discussion, then russia will liberate its historical lands on the battlefieldNow what? Will Ukraine keep slowly losing ground and hoping for Russia to implode in next 3-5 years?
>>523840439
>>523840671this pic would be more appropriate>>523840707for the opponent, yes
>>523840439TZD!
>>523840671banan?
>last seven days, russia has lost over 30 tanks, 270 artillery, and a sub
>>52384074730-50 years more like it
>>523840747>Now what?TZD
>>523840812
>хoхлыыыыыыыыыыыыыыыыыыыыыыы
>>523840747the way things are right now, it might as well happen in 2026
kill all ziggers and zigger shills
>Russian tankers are now not sailing directly through the Black Sea, — Bloomberg.>To hide, they are "clinging" to the coasts of Georgia and Turkey. Their path to the Bosphorus Strait has become 350 miles longer.
>>523840895it was like he saved up all his life for that tanker
>>523840907They still have 2.3 tones of gold and some other things they can keep using for next +3 years before they implode. It would be faster if price of oil will fall way bellow $60 per barrel.
>>523841041LMAO
>>523840895me in the ship's toilet with diarrhea
Reminder that Russia will NEVER collapse. Russia is literally eternal, ever heard of the term Third Rome?
>>523840982desu Ukrainian drones should be camping near Denmark to prevent any zigger activity on the Baltic sea>>523841141gold sales have accelerated lately. i don't think that they'll have enough for 2027 and beyond. also at some point they're susceptible to an economical attack
>>523841194>yep, that's me, youlle plobabry wondeling how i got hele
>>523841204mfw i see your face when in the ships toilet with diarrhea
>>523841333Yarp
>>523841330>the turd Rome
>>523840439Fucking ukies, the boat was ALREADY UNDERWATER hahaha you did nothing you can't sink what's already underwater retards hahahaha
>>523841333Yeah but can Ukraine army survive till 2027/28?They also have their issues, they lose more people to desertion then to deaths/injuries and without new people in the army it won't hold till 2027
>>523841523>Yeah but can Ukraine army survive till 2027/28?No.The Ukrainian army is literally disintegrating.
>bragging about not bathing>bragging about shitting outside and having piss jugs
>>523841577>peaople taking showers is some kind of a GOTCHA momentyeah that was funny, lel
this is what a 3-day special olympics operation looks like when you put it on credit card
>>523841141Gold is an illiquid asset and shifting that amount will naturally alter the price gotten. It's 2.3k tonnes btw not 2.3 tonnes.Nevertheless the volume of gold that they have is roughly equal to 23T rubles. Or about half their annual expenditure at the federal level. It's less than a third of comibned government spending per year which is about 70T. A ton of gold more or less translates to ~10B rubles at current prices fyi.They're currently posting budget deficits of nearly 6T p/a at the federal level and probably something like 8T at the combined level. Yet despite raising tax rates and asset stripping the country, they are getting sub-inflationary tax revenue growth.Selling off large amounts of gold will be a market event and they'll get less than the nominal price. And it's a one-off non-renewable economic resource, once it's gone it's never coming back which means Russia will face the full-force of all future economic events with a much smaller gold cushion. They will be very careful if they do sell tons and tons of gold because the turbulence they face now in the 2020s may not be as bad as the forthcoming.
Keep an eye on Liman, hohols...
>>523841523hard to tell. looks like no but then they do stuff like Kursk, Kupyansk or spiderweb. there's rumors about some counter-offensive planned for 2026 toothey might just hold on
>spamming low quality shit will save the pozzia
>>523841333>gold sales have accelerated latelyDo you have numbers to describe this acceleration?
>>523841680tried to get it to say "erm", but didn't look good
>>523841825Still I think its reasonable take that Russia will not implode like soviet union in 2026, possibly not even in 2027 most likely major economic problems will happen in 2028.Can Ukraine hold till then?
looks like we lost a Mi-24shit sux
>>523840837plus a Mig 31, several radars and S-400 systems
>>523842008i saw some charts posted here less than a month ago. basically ziggerstan is running out of other savings and have to rely on gold more and more
>>523841330>>523841577>>523841680I'm baffled. Is showering bad now?Is this some new-age tiktok fad where men delude themselves into thinking reeking of sweat makes women fall in love with them?
>>523841330No, never heard of them. Only third class? Sounds pretty shit, desu.
>>523842090very nice
>>523841373>This is Ukrainian soil. They say it's the biggest meat processing plant on earth. I used to fight here. Well... I was really a slave, like all the others.>That's me! My name is zigger. I was bootcamp soldier of the year, now I'm dead meat.
>>523842083Biчнa пaмʼять
>>523842181It's referencing how euros have to take freezing cold showers to own the Russians.
>>523842083the pilots are a bigger loss than some shitty soviet chopper
>>523842181I think he just might be indian
>>523842083F glory to the Heroes
>>523842181>men delude themselves into thinking reeking of sweat makes women fall in love with themIt is partially based in reality. There's some lizard brain shit which works and affects smell perception between men and women, depending on their compatibility or something like that. I.e. a girl who's attracted to you on that low level will like your body smell and vice-versa, while for others you might be a sweaty stink-bomb lmao. I've experienced this personally.
>>523842083i mean, you still have to lose one unit to fulfill the 14:1 prophecy>>523842077nobody really knows what's going on with Ukraine, though they still have some reserves of personnel
bros its true?its fucking happening??>>523842083Heroiam Slava
>>523842337of course the russian navy would be extra gay
>>523842551Ice Ukraine stole Russian assets.
>>523842551based if true
>>523842551BRACE YOURSELVES, THE SHILLS ARE COMING LADS
>>523842551he probably said all "real" countries to exclude Hungaryalso large if factual
>>523842654>tfw those rubles were supposed to be mine
How long until Russia goes back to its 16 century borders where it had no access to the black sea or anything east of the ural mountains?
>>523842720isn't Hungary at the turning point right now?
>>523842720orbongo probably got his 5% cut
>>523842077>its reasonable take that Russia will not implode like soviet union in 2026, possibly not even in 2027Depends on what you mean "like the soviet union", since it was a cocktail of multiple factors. One one side they don't have the retarded and fragile soviet economy, so that helps them avoid a full breakdown of product and food availability. However, shit is getting worse for them, so the question is only how specifically and what will break. If they get hyperinflation to try and sustain the expenditures I doubt people will like that.
>>523842805>isn't Hungary at the turning point right now?would be if it was a real democracy (which it isn't since 2010)the economy is shit, only literal retards support f*desz not but they hold all important positions and they will cling to power like as probably their survival depends on itwe'll see>>523842881hard to imagine desuif it passes it will be along the lines of>pls go outside little man, the real countries need to make a decision now
>>523842077They don't need to implode to lose the war. Countries don't have to deconstruct into civil war entirely in order to lose a war which they started and withdraw their forces back home. The USSR lost in Afghanistan in 1988 and took 3 more years to dissolve itself after peace. Russia lost in Chechnya in 1995 and didn't collapse in on itself.Ultimately the point of monitoring Russia's precarious financials is to count the cost Russia imposes on itself to continue their pointless war. They not only lose hundreds of thousands of men, per annum, but they're robbing people's livelihoods back at home with ever higher taxes (inflation is a tax btw). The government is forced to make more and more unpopular and costly decisions to prosecute their unnecessary war and, at some point, will have to consider the imposing of further cost more unattractive than pulling out of Ukraine.Aka there is some abstract point in the future where the cost of peace is cheaper than the cost of war.
>We have reached a turning point, — Tusk on reparation loan for Ukraine>"Everyone agrees that it is worth trying, and that it would be fair, justified and good for Europe to use Russian funds for Ukraine. However, some countries will fight with all their might to maximize their guarantees."
looks like EVROPA is not 100% cuckeda little hope is still there
>>523842996>Everyone agreesi will believe it when i see it but orbán getting cucked by the EU would be one of the highlights of this year
>>523843058>i will believe it when i see itThis
IF THERES NO FIRE TO GUIDE MY WAY THEN I WILL START MY OWN BY BLOOD OR SWEAT WE'LL GET THERE YET, BY GOD WE'LL HAVE OUR HOME
I'LL HOLD MY TEARS & TRADE MY YEARS FOR A GLIMPSE AT KINGDOM COME
THANK YOU ZIGGER FAGGOTS FOR HELPING ME START THE RACE WAR. ACCELERATE
I STRUGGLE FORTH TO FIND A FREN TO LIGHT THE WAY FOR ME
VICTORY WHITE PRIDE WORLDE WIDE WE MUST SECURE THE EXISTENCE OF OUR PEOPLE AND A FUTURE FOR WHITE CHILDREN THE FLAMES JUST GOT TEN FEET HIGHER
>Day 1394 in the war against NATO>russians are doing seaborne landing operation in kiddy rafts >NATO is yet to deploy forces What and when did it go so wrong ?
>>523840439Oh no Zsisters WTF is this?
SLAVA UKRAINE UKRANIANS FIGHT BACK NEVER SURRENDER --- NEVER CAPITULATE --- SLAVERY IS A FATE WORSE THAN DEATH
>>523843674Lol was it being towed?
>>523842981i've talked to dozens of Hungarians when i was working in UK and they all think that gov in Hungary is bad and corrupted and want a change (they might be biased tho, idk). recently i heard that Orban and co. is losing the favour fast. things might just get better
>>523843747What do mean ?It was moving under it's own power
Just because america dropped all aid doesn't mean you lazy EU niggers get to do so as well. I hate you all.
>>523843747Lies, it was returning into port on its own power
WORLD*** WIDE BEGONE JANNIES WHO MOLEST CHILDREN ON DISCORD OY VEY GEVALT ITS ANUDDAH SHOAH https://www.alexlinder.com/audio/calverhall-serpents_walk.html
I am still sorely missing a palm sized cube of tungsten in my life.But I am glad I donated the money instead.You shall elude me, cube-chan.>>523843674heh
DON'T WORRY ANONS I TOOK A SCREENSHOT BEFORE THEY REPORTED MY BASED TRIPS TO JANNIES ( ͡° ᴥ ͡°)
Elvish scum here?
>>523843674I would like to add that this very special landing operation was done without any support or electronic warfare equipment in a drone infested war
>>523844257total elf supremacy
6th pidor tanker hit.https://www.reuters.com/world/ukrainian-drones-hit-tanker-russias-rostov-port-causing-deaths-mayor-says-2025-12-18/
>>523844368>>523844368>>523844368
Oh it's already in the OP lol
>>523844257>Russians really see themselves as orcs>Not the green funny orcs of warhammer or the savage, strong and free of other fantasy setttings.>They see themselves as the hunchback, lame, ugly, born of slavery and suffering of lords of the rings, where orc literally means demon.Maybe tolkien unconsciously wrote about the war of western folk vs russians.
>>523844044what you lost in tungsten, you will gain in meat cubes
>>523844515amateur!
>>523844694I survived 200+ orders from Domino's
>>523844694>survived 3 trips to gas chamberdamn she's tough, wife material
>>523844257Dude I hate them so much.
>>523844515>>523844515>>523844515TOP KEK I WENT TO /chug/ THE OTHER DAY & THEY WERE ALL SCREAMING 'JEW' AT ONE ANOTHER IT WAS HILARIOUS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M6ypHfus0k
>>523844839They are 90% retarded arabs that see joos under every stone, can`t call their precious momo the zuttboy he is there.
>>523840716Different races have different capabilities, Anon. I'm sure Bangladesh is #1 at something, like maybe rocket diarrhea.
>>523844938>>523844938>>523844938K E K E K E K E K
>100 people go in, and... Well, maybe 15-20 people come out, maybe even 10.Zigger units in Pokrovsk suffer an 80%+ killrate. Which is even higher than even Ukrainian units in the area were claiming. iirc they said it was about 2/3rds.
>>523844668That is trueOr someone will gain in vital treatment, even if infinitesimalREMINDER TO ANONS HERE:It may not be as fancy and flashy as an air defense system, but this shit is so important to the actual people: https://u24.gov.ua/saving-sightLiterally all it takes sometimes is some basic treatment but the catch is it can only be performed well with these tools and it saves people from sub-optimal eyesight recovery after accidents with debris etc. and worseI witnessed the same thing recently here and it was just a dude having a light scratch on the cornea, it's so vital and if you could also spare a little it'd definitely help someone.
>>523845002>>523845002>>523845002YOU JUST L O V E TO SEE IT HABBEN :33333
THE UN-SINKABLE TITANIC SHE'LL GO DOWN IN A PANIC
>>523842056Like this, anon?
>cofi status? I'm about to have my first night shift, wish me luck.
>>523843674it do be like that
>>523845002>90% casualty ratelol, I wanted to protest it but they get to larp as "le imperium of man" I guessBasically Ukraine = eldar in comparison kekw
>>523845454>first night shiftgl;hf>cofi status?two cuppas were had, drinking black tea now
>In October, the UK imposed sanctions on two top Russian oil producers, Rosneft and Lukoil PJSC, a move that the US followed just days later.Lol I thought it was the other way round. Feels good that we're one step ahead of the US treasury. It's beyond time for the EU to follow us.https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-12-18/uk-targets-three-smaller-russian-oil-producers-in-latest-curbs
>>523845002can u link the bsky post pretty please
>>523845766perfidious albion? more like based albion
>>523845926tacticool flip-flopshere's some deep lore: in ussr they were known as "vietnamki" (as in "vietnam (women)")
>>523846078https://bsky.app/profile/chriso-wiki.bsky.social/post/3ma6mkpeqd22w
>>523846140lol some guy called a radio station here today and said he went on telegrams to check videos from the war and ziggers are in flip flops and work helmets and getting killed on an industrial scale. also said monke doesn't want to end the war with nothing to show for it because he'd get coup'dsurprisingly sane take given what i heard in the past, almost refreshing
>>523846131>>523846131>>523846131THEIR GOVERNMENT IS SEEING MASSIVE RIOTS AS WELL TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE BEFORE THE WEST COLLAPSES WE CAN SEND ENOUGH WEAPONRY TO COLLAPSE ZIGGLANDIA
>>523846240ty
>>523845766>ahead of EUFinally some swashbuckling status got redeemed lol
2 more weeks
>>523844622This is a very clear cut good vs evil war
>>523841330What happened to the first and second romes?
>>523844622>Maybe tolkien unconsciously wrote about the war of western folk vs russians.why not consciously?
>>523844622>Maybe tolkien unconsciously wrote about the war of western folk vs russians.Nah, the orcs were the nazis though there was standin for the evils where the "easterlings" (I think they were called) would easily ally with the orcsIt's almost 1:1 if I remember correctlyTolkien was pretty explicit about not liking nazis and those that cooperated with them though I don't know how much he actually let the history of WW2 (that started in 1939 when the soviet empire and nazi germany jointly invaded Poland btw, if someone tells you it's 1941 they are a vatnigger, this is just a trivia incantation in my post so disregard) get into that world he built>>523846484>This is a very clear cut good vs evil warIt really isAnd still people act like there's this nuance to it when there really isn't
>>523842490why don't you go fight for your country? coward
>The European Union wants to impose strict “Buy European” rules on Ukraine’s potential loan backed by Russian assets, which leaders will try to finalize during a summit on Thursday.Sounds good on paper. Let's see if rules like this actually help the EU scale production. The EU has experience on what to do, and what not to do, from mass vaccine production during the pandemic.
when you see it, you shit BRICS
>>523846901kek
>>523846901>stelth lvl 99
>>523846901if only you knew how brown things are
>>523846901reminds me of RTCW (kinoest of games)
>>523846901loooooooooool
>>523846901
>>523847443
>>523846901>>523846901>>523846901
>>523847443>brown-dugout.jpgBEIGE-DUGOUT.jpg
>>523840638Its good strategy on global scale, you exchange retard who is a total drain on your resource based economy with a drone, that your enemy had to buy with hard money.
>>523846901>when you see it, you shit BRICSI love you (fullhomo)
>>523845002Yet the serf still marches to his pathetic death. When will they learn it would be much easier to kill their officers and barrier troops than it's to dodge drones.
>>523846749>why does the yoblyk smile?>because he knows he doesnt have to be a zigger any more
>>523847714what makes you think they don't realize that? i think most of them just dont want to live with the shame of ''''''''''great''''''''''' rozzia losing to kokols, the kremlin propaganda apparatus did it's job
>>523841885
>>523842317
>>523845387thanks friendbeen working with MS paint, haven't shooped in years
>>523841704Killer ending line.>high interest payments are already locked into future budgets and, unlike military outlays, they can’t be cut.https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-12-18/russia-will-be-paying-for-its-war-on-ukraine-long-after-it-ends
>>523841330
>>523842317bro, I went to the beach, yesterday
>>523848400Very froozing.
>>523847443kek
>>523841885you should have kept an eye on kupyansk
>>523847443it's a long way from camp nou here, pal...
>>523840439TZD
>>523848598wow you are still alive? i have already froooooooozen (multiple times this year btw)>3°C>cloudy
>>523849205Help, I'm frooozen and I'm out of hamsters to eat
>>523842317Things that never happened for 100 rubles.
>>523849659what about squirrels?
Slava ukraina
2 subs>2 subs2 subs>2 subs2 subs>2 subs
>>523849952Not enough
>>523849952and a naval cuck shed LMAO
>>523840812Henlo ? I'm going to noooook you
>>523849659You now have a decision to make, my fellow froozer: Continue to wash yourself with your warm dog, or eat the dog and have to frooze more because west only has cold water.
>>523850132>LifehackNice, I don't have a dog but maybe I can use a cat
>>523850132>Continue to wash yourself with your warm dogthat's kinda based ngl
Kek
>>523842551No fucking way Orban agrees. That guy would join Russia in an instant if their borders started to touch.
>>523848843>you should have kept an eye on kupyanskPriceless
>>523840790This guy was tried for war crimes so surely it should be possible to try Putin as well
>>523850132the kind of person who laps up such a post is dumber than a yuropoor hobo - who at least knows to migrate to some place warmer when it gets cold
>$35 discountChrist in heaven.I can't find any other source for this so I'm a bit wary and don't want to get too excited. Reuters has nothing on this which the MT refers to.https://www.moscowtimes.news/2025/12/18/rossiya-uvelichila-skidki-na-neft-dlya-kitaya-do-rekordnih-35-za-barrel-a183194So these shipments are selling for $25/bbl. That's just 2,000 rubles per barrel.
>>523850221lmao saved
>>523850221kekekekek
>>523850221oy vey
>>523850221I was about to point at the original, actual quote of that moment, before realizing that's basically the same thing either way
>>523840439>still using the submarine cope webmTOP KEK UPDATE THE INFOGRAPHIC TO HAVE>+1 Pier
>>523842090Total Migger Death.
...yeah
>>523850759>below 30 per barrel.one month ago I was wondering how high the fixed costs for extraction are and I still dont know the answer.the margins must be terrible
>>523851762>Real madrid won...
Goodnight, sweet oil-leaking prince
>>523852138you missed lmao
Crazy how only morally bankrupt faggots, retards, and outright niggers support the criminal welfare state of ukraine.
>>523851762is that one of the new russian men ive been hearing so much about
>>523852322>>523851762based. you guys finally executed him.
>>523851762If only you knew how brown things really are
>>523851850>submarine cope cages
>>523852421>t.
>>523852190lol
>Crazy how only morally bankrupt faggots, retards, and outright niggers support the criminal welfare state of Ukraine.
>>523852252
>>523852190you're getting the spatial awareness of an asian woman, the estrogen is working
SHLORP SHLORP SHLORP
totally organic cope, vpn comrades
>>523852252>1 post by this ID
>>523850221Half-Jew, half-potato
>>523852421finally, a nightvision camera-proof soldier
>>523852525silly decadent westerner doesnt know thats actually good for their immunity ))))
>>523852706lol
>>523852546its such an utterly amazing coincidence, a whole bunch of pidor loving burgerflags all come in together and start shitting the bed lmao
>>523852549
It's time for you're daily dose
Brownnosing the criminal child rapist friend president goes as expected:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7W6bS2g3Go
>>523853341thanks doc
>>523853341obrigado, doutor
>>523853341дякyю, лiкapю
>>523850759So that's why they don't pay wages to workers extracting it, because there's nothing left after monke steals everything lol
>>523844622>>523846602>>523846735bruhs, Mordor is literally on the east and behind the mountains. it couldn't be any more clearly telegraphed
>>523850759How long until the barrel itself is more expensive than the oil?
>>523853539Well I guess you're right, no need to reinvent the wheel and place the mountains to the north south or west of the happening when you're echoing history like that
>>523840747With all the shitfiesta revolving the piss deals - yeah that was the obvious outcome, back in fucking February. the russia is incapable of agreeing to any arrangement which will make impossible for the russia to invade Ukraine again. They are not trying to sign piss deal to actually have enduring peace; they want time to have fixed economy, more soldiers & tanks. Any deal which will guarantee NATO forces on Ukraine territory is automatic NOPE from monke. And that's precisely what EU finally agreed to do. The only thing which can make monke bring to negotiation table is general collapse of the russia.
>>523853341Cпacибo, дoктop.
Gerasimov just stated that 19 Ukrainian battalions were surrounded and eliminated in Kupiansk.
>>523854190Why only 19?
>>523854063an anon on a obscure forum understands thatwhy don't EU leaders?
the rostov oil tanker is transitioning into a submarine
>>523854375fuck, ziggers have transformers now. it's so ogre
>>523854375once again, khohkol: this is a land war, not an oil tanker war.Z.
>>523854063yep exactly, hence I doubt any peace deal will be made, Ukraine obviously won't agree to a peace knowing they will get invaded in 3 years again
DESIGNATED
>>523854558neither side can give up right now. they have to continue no matter what. it'll be over when one of the sides collapses
>>523854595SHITTING
>>523854676desu we won't have peace in Europe until russia is defeated or collapses internally. Any deal made with current russian regime is only a ceasefire postponing next war for a couple years at best. Those retards do not want peace, simple as.
>>523854816this is the only solution
>>523855001>no borisdzhonson oblastFake and gay map
>>523855134>borisdzhonson oblastthat is what will become of Königsberg
>>523854493> This is fake AI news!> They didnt hit shit!> This is land war, not naval war!--YOU ARE HERE> We didnt need it anyway!
>>523854063I don't think they even want a break, they just want to get some territory for free and fuck up Ukraine's defence lines and morale. They won't wait to attack again, they will just keep attacking like they do now just from a much better position.
Greetings soibois and t-girls, how many hoholinas were widowed today?
>>523854305>an anon on a obscure forum understands that>why don't EU leaders?democratic decline and corporations/economy-lobbyists capturing the decisionmaking along with a population that got scammed by said lobbyists and corporations and would rather burn everything to the ground before being scammed again, having completely misdirected their hateThis is why I always say that we need to be more contemptuousrest in piss charlie kirk and burn in hell brian thompson
Interesting article. The author argues that if Putin tries to step down or cede power in any way then he could be killed by angry Ukrainians or even Russians who think Putin mismanaged the invasion of Ukraine.The article also mentions that Putin could try to take a peace deal to settle the conflict soon, something that he could spin as a victory, which would mean he wouldn't have to conscript people into the army as the conflict drags on - something which would anger Russians. Maybe a quick peace deal actually would be Putin's best option given his position? But maybe he won't take it because he's a megalomaniac, obsessed with trying to make Ukraine capitulate, even if this endeavour is creating more and more problems for him.>If Putin can get a quick, advantageous deal then he can try to spin this into a triumph wrenched from a hostile Nato and its Ukrainian proxies. Yet if the war drags on, which may force him to field not just volunteers, but conscripts and reservists who never chose to fight, then anger at him for starting a war few Russians wanted and greedily squandering the golden opportunities for peace Trump offered him will likely grow.>Ultimately, though, none of these scenarios looks likely, at least for now. Instead, Putin is stuck in a gilded cage of his own making, too insecure to dare step away from it, but probably too secure to be removed by anything other than his own mortality. Asked about the succession on state TV back in March, Putin replied “I always think about it,” but is this with secret longing to be rid of the duties and dangers of the presidency or primal fear?https://web.archive.org/web/20251218105049/https://inews.co.uk/opinion/furious-putin-trapped-gilded-cage-death-free-him-4077145
>>523856339Business idea: make the EU more democratic. The European Parliament is already elected of course. Maybe the President of the EU Commission should be directly elected by Europeans, rather than chosen by the Parliament.
>>523856385This is stupid. If he wanted to end it he could have told his stupid zombie people anything he wanted and they would have accepted it as a win. The deal is just to grab something for nothing because he knows Trump is his lackey and a lot of euros are weak and dumb.
>>523856385This is yet more naive western rationalization of the russian mindset
>>523840439Ukraine just took back territory in Kupyansk. Have the endless meat wave assaults finally run out of mobiks?
>>523857035I did say he could make a deal and try to sell it as a win, but because he's a megalomaniac, it seems he's unlikely to take an early peace deal.>>523857085In what way
>>523857356Considering that Russia is now using years worth of VDV units in Pokrovsk, it is safe to assume that mobik meat waves aren't enough
>>523857085correct. The only true way to view this conflict is that its just two groups of jewish oligarchs battling it out over loot. Or even more simple: a group of jews.
I'm not a fan of NATO nor the EU.
ziggers be like
>>523856903All these institutional changes will fail to address the gap between what people feel and the instrumental realityIt will also fail to rectify the evils that tech corporations, oligarchs, the billionaire class but MOST INSIDIOUSLY OF ALL complex (inter)national systems larger than any singular actor or decisionmaker are carryingI agree with you in principleBut in practice you can see what happens when you suddenly expose a vital decision to popular sentiment when there is a fault line and it is being fanned by corporate media and private donors: you get things like brexit on a 52-48 basisBut yeah, this has to change, the EU needs to be more democraticThe EU-Commission is a massive sore point and an ingress point for so many corrupt lobbyisitic parasites and the catastrophic decisions and shifts that followPerhaps it should even go as far as them not being the only ones allowed to suggest new laws with the parliament getting more direct meddling rights in the formulationBut you do need a counter-populist balance and this is why they decided to make it so that the comission alone gets to suggest new laws which the parliament then votes onI dunno man, this shit is infernally complicated once one looks past the basic slogan and "just do this" suggestions
>>523842317And we also have to eat our hamsters((((((((((((((
Help! No coffee! No coffee and the night shift! At least until three in the morning, no access to coffee. I'll be awake full 24 hours by the end.
>>523858025WTF TEAM!!!!! I told my friend just the other day Ukraine was a champion of democracy!!! Atleast they are still a champion of LGBQT rights
>>523858032now that's one funny shitskin>>523858165just order some on glovo or smth
>>523858025>>523858214You two are like the dumbest retards in the thread right now
>>523858230>now that's one funny shitskinRWA is two guys in germany iirc
>>523858165>no access to coffeeLies, you are in Finland, there must be some nearby
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>>523858291Fuck off zigger
>>523858230Total Glovo/Wolt death. Literal jeetery/niggery vehicle.
>>523858386You are not convincing anybody, dumbass. You would be more useful at the front.
>>523858354To clarify - I'm at ass end of the site and cannot leave today's post until all the workers are off site. There's coffee but next to me there isn't.
>>523858291its just mearschizo posting from multiple devices >>523858344i remember one of the guys behind the account being posted here and he was like a weird mix of some kind of proto-gypsy and a deep one>>523858406idk i haven't ordered smth in like 10 years
I wonder how much Glavset spends on American VPN servers
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Sometimes I wonder how much faster this war could end had Russia kept trying to push with old doctrine and long convoy lines towards Kiev like early 2022. This has been dragged out for way too long.
>>523858521There is literally nothing wrong with being gay. (Trannies are not gay, they are mentally ill)
>>523858457Complain to your union rep, that sounds illegal and inhumane
baking at 300>>523858565bout tree fiddy
>>523858521>4th year of niggers posting literally who on twitter for no reasonWe are lucky they are so fucking stupid
>>523858165This isn't your personal blog
>>523856385this is a super retarded take. the MSM is pure retardation when it comes to Russia in so many ways
>>523857954That feeling is valid because it exists and you are obviously feeling it, it's a sociological reality.I also see some existing circumstances and placed arrangements that make me dislike NATO and the EU.However I will tell you that the nebulous non-alternative of "..." you provide (which will in practice likely just end up in chaotic abandonment of these overall worthwhile political/civilizational projects) is worse than any gripe you can name.You of course likely won't name the exact gripes and anything you do name will come out as a litany of garbled allegations with zero actual consideration of how these states of things instrumentally come about.Basically I want to warn about being ignorant of what is going on.Warn against substituting rigorous thought about reality based both individual considerations and interpersonal consensus.Because the above are the vital basis of civilized and advanced society hearkening back the the western revolution and the enlightening age.One must not become solipsistic and substitute reality with ones own, there is truth.And this truth mustn't die through this pathetic smattering of social isolation, superficial cynicism and misanthropy and this piss-poor socialization that is making the rounds.We ought to be better and repair what is broken instead of smashing everything and replacing it with nothing but empty slogans and ruins.The EU at least still has a lot of value and is vital to prosperity and future economic, social and geopolitical viability and independence of EuropeNATO shouldn't be counted out yet either, America might not be in terminal democratic decline and even if not, NATO can be the basis of an independen European block to ensure safety, self-determination and peace through deterrence of enemies and cooperation and strengthening with allies through the mesomerism it enables.
>>523858591it would have certainly fed the cube much faster
>>523856903The nations of the EU don't want a more democratic EU, because a democratic EU has legitimacy enough to challenge any individual national government within it an hold them to account. Look what our politicos went and did just at rumours that the EU might take a harsher line against internal finance corruption.
>>523858817based kraut autist, i will use this argument to shame irl ziggers
>>523858605>t. “Right wing” /uhg/
>>523858982t. stinky shitskin
NEW THREAD>>523858946>>523858946>>523858946>>523858946
>>523858982/uhg/ is full of cringe a lot of the time sadly. a lot of Euro boomers who watch the TV and believe what it says
>>523848843BURN
>>523846901>>523847443why did you shoop Azuca in, he was already there
