Who are "white" people, exactly?
Certainly not you
>>523840767the people jews say they are when they say they're terrible and all need to be killed, then say they aren't when the mob arrives
>>523840767White is an american ethnonym coterminous with "european american". If you claim this is ill-defined, please make the same claim about "african american" next. Wouldn't want to be seen as hypocritical now :^)
>>523840767best
of european genotype, with some allowance made for near eastern individuals who are phenotypically indistinguishable from the former
White in the US usually meant english adjacent, french, belgian, dutch (water germans) wtc
>>523841076the term has a dual meaning as an ethnic identifier for the european-descendant ethne of the colonies and a broader racial identifier for europeans writ large
>>523841143>slavs>white
>>523840767White people are europesn ethnicities globally speaking. They, especislly the west, merged into "american" in the new world. Its a proximity thing. (German french closer to esch other in niegeris compsred to their home-countried etc)
>>523841143nope all the 'sometimes white' countries are savages. have you ever been to egypt? i have and its full of subhumans. i would go so far as to exclude the mudslimes in the balkan as well as some dark serbs and all gypsies ofc. i would be open to including armenians and georgians as honorary whites though
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>>523841279this man is egyptian
>>523840767A war race from another world. Something you'll never be you stupid gook.
white is a made up group created in america after the revolution to distance themselves from the word "european".It means what the government want to. One day it exclude Irish, another, it excludes Spanish (by law, Spaniards are not white in the us) but include kikes.It does't means absolute anything, just schizo american bullshit that got exported to the rest of the world.
>>523840767People of exclusively, or almost exclusively, Western European descent.
>>523841279Whites are people identified as such by brown people, like japanese or arabs. They did merge in the new world though and becsme an ethnicity(american)
>>523841280Cope, slavmonkey
All ethnicities that come from countries that were historically part of the european christendom. This is StormFront official definition btw.
>>523840767ethnic europeans
>>523841352Distance from non whites. Europeans always had a path to citizenship.
>>523841347Yeah? Did you know there's an oasis in egypt with majority european genetics?
>>523841347Ever heard of averages?
>>523841347yeah he doesnt look white? he might be an outlier from the rest of egyptians but that doesnt mean we can accept them. are you going to live with gorillas because one of the gorillas is acting like a human?
>>523841487He is a leftist, leftist dont understand what averages mean
>>523841352Obviously nobody thinks a Sudanese tribesman from Upper Egypt is "white" just because of a technicality in US census classifications
>>523841358Careful, Benjamin Franklin, one of the US founding fathers, did not see Swedes as whites because of their "swarthy complexion".
>>523841347oi, who's the paki?
>>523840767
>>523840767You want a full list of us and our individual backstories? I can start. I'm Chris, I'm from central Missouri. I have a useless degree in anthropology and I renovate houses for a living.
>>523841511Leftist always argue that exceptions sre the rule, they cant help themselfs
>>523841526>Labelling this egpytian man not white hurts his feelings! stop that!Could all of the world's problems be fixed if we started slapping women again?
>>523841076>White is an american ethnonym......that originated in England and is still today in use throughout the UK.
>>523840860>>523840965>>523841076>>523841097>>523841143 routine spam threads about whites
>>523841625"Some person have parents from different countries therefore countries sre not real" "some are born in africa, you could have been african". They always segue like that
"White" is a term made up by deracinated colonials in the Americas. Its an 18th century Benjamin Franklin shitpost. And in his original shitpost he only considered anglo-saxon protestants "white". Nobody else in Europe was "white" according to him. Nobody in Britain except anglo-saxon protestants where "white" according to him. Nobody in Scandinavia where "white" either according to him. Thats where this "white" bullshit stems from. A schizophrenic shitpost made by Benjamin Franklin in the 18th century. "White" is liberal and cosmopolitan terminology.
>>523841598I'm assuming you didn't mean to cut off FranceIn which case, I'd say this is a solid demarcation. Even the Finns were put in their place >inb4 muh italy, muh spain, muh slavseh, White adjacent, honorary aryans and what not. But not White
>>523841753>once the facade of emotion accusing you of racism because you will not claim a north african is white fails the jew will then take his mask off and reveal a post modernist that says reality has no meaning
>>523840767Everyone in nations being flooded by kikes with shitskins, with the exception of america and france, which were already half niggers and half lost white status many decades ago.To recognize white people, you must recognize their society, and the conviction of jews to destroy them.
>>523841511There are a million other examples of individuals you could pluck out of Turkey, Syria, Tunisia, etc. who nobody would bat an eye at if they told you their ancestors had been in France for 1,000 years. In the strictest sense you could limit it to the population of people of European genotype but in practical terms it's more contrived to try and call this person a swarthy Turk than to concede that there are some "white" people on the other side of the Mediterranean
AMISH ARE SUCH CUTIE PIES
>>523841487M8, all Mediterranean share the same original genes.The only difference is that people in Europe have a far higher admixture of what we call nowadays "EHG", people who came from Asia, from what is now Russia and Kazakhstan and invaded Europe during the Bronze Age.The mutation for recessive blonde hair and blue eyes only happened in the last glacial maximum, when most of the humanity was almost wiped out causing a bottleneck so big, and so much inbreed that this event gave pretty much all mutations that difference each other group on earth nowadays.
>>523841216Yes the term has other definitions. For example, it's literally a colour. This does nothing to detract from my claim. In fact, it is a constant source of cringe to the entire world, when amerisharts can't tell the difference between white (the american ethnic group) and white (the human racial category).>>523841675> english word originated in englandDamn, FUCK, I'm cooked
>>523841754Wrong. Whites exist the moment a german and french guy meet in nigeria. There are both seen as white by the nigerian or other blacks. They did merge into an ethnicity in the new word though. Its proximity based and obviously a fluid term but relevant. (Because we are identified as s group globally spesking) the woeld sre.
>>523841754Benjamin Franklin, like any scientist, was the first to pioneer a certain subject. He got his core presumption correct, i.e. Whiteness as a concept, but his scope was found to be too narrow. Blame that on his bias, I don't care. But there is definitely a White people group, and it includes everyone in this post here >>523841598
>>523841598So... the wife of Trump is a non white?
>>523841888EHG was in east Europe by 10000BC already, it's as native east Euro as it gets basically for post LGM populations
>>523841888people dont know that europeans were niggers just 10000 years ago
>>523841847The term white stems from the likes of Benjamin Franklin and others who participated in the Atlantic revolutions of the 18th century to begin with. You accept cosmopolitan liberal framing if you go around using the term "white".
>>523841945Yes. She's a slav
>>523842013slavmonkey*
>>523842007>implying a White empire is le bad Ahmed pls
>>523841903The concept, not the word, fecalbrain. A real Englishman wouldn't make such a rudimentary mistake.
>>523842039Thank you for the correction, Sasuke, my honorary Aryan brother.
>>523841912>>523841933White is a fluid term(although whites became an ethnic group in america). Like i'am german and have to deal eith the "old white men in positions of power" debates even though we are not anglo, simply because the globslized concept of white includes europesn ethnicities.
>>523841888Yes all that means is egypt is white clay
>>523840767My dick
>>523842105All Whites are European, but not all Europeans are White.
>>523840767.Definition of Far Right NSDAP White.
>>523842105Egyptians are not white because the average egyptian is not identified as such by browns. Its that simple. And they think thaz bevause whited shsre specific phenotypes(which are based on genetics)
>>523841912Thats what I meant. "White" is part of the deracination of europeans outside of Europe.>>523841933Benjamin Franklin was a quack and a hack fraud that has been given far too much credit for a lot of things.
>>523842013>anglokike diaspora fag>country that worships niggers and jews>defining whitenessMany such cases
>>523841967>EHG was in east Europe by 10000BC already,Nah, we don't believe this anymore.During the last glacial maximum, most of Eastern Europe was either a 300 meter tall block of ice, or an arid desert.This was believed back when out only source of information was the language left behind by those groups (aka, the Indo-European languages). But now we can extract DNA from ancient teeth, and date them with relative success. This complete changed how we see the subject. And mostly it's the reason why we don't use "aryan" and Indo-European anymore.
>>523841347WHAT THE FUCKKKKKKKI was thinking of that fag being a egiptian, and bang in that moment you posted that
>>523842039mfw riceyes
>>523842192If you don't have the brain of a child it shouldn't be difficult to grasp how identifying a man with blue eyes and fair skin who happens to have been born in Egypt as "white" is a separate claim from the assertion that all Egyptians are white
>>523842213>founding father and statesman>beat the world's greatest empire>inventor>scientist>sociologist>author>playboy>richHe was literally the goat. Cope>>523842267Seething slavmonkey
>>523842061Yes. Empire is bad. At least trans-continental empires are. They always become cosmopolitan and deracinated. And I suppose your idea of a "white empire" includes christcuckery as well. So thats even more of a yikes.
>>523842007That's bullshit of americans, trying to steal everything so they can larp as white.The term white people has been used since the 15~16th century colonial era, with a notion of "united white people" appearing sometimes in the 17th century.
>>523842323>Nah, we don't believe this anymore.nobody cares what you believe, we have plenty of ancient DNA to back that up, Veretye HG in northwest Russia was EHG and dated to ~10000BC
White people are the cromagnons who interbred with Neanderthals and lived in the colder climates of the world. This had the combined effect of making them less emotional, more intellectual, and better tool use and invention capabilities.
>>523842362Leftist dont understand averages
>>523842429>christcuckery>yikesreddit is down the hall and to the left
No one really knows where white people come from.
>>523842418>beat the world's greatest empireYou never gained independence from the UK. London funded both sides of the revolutionary war. The founding faggots "founded" your "country" while in a massive debt you will never be able to pay back to the country you pretend you are independent from to this day.>>523842418>inventor>scientistAre titles you tack on to him just to feel better about yourselves.>playboyYeah. He was a huge degenerate. That much is true.
>>523842589Hyperborea, obviously
>>523842075I'm well aware what "White British" means and can trust that an american would refuse to accept he wasn't included. Let me guess, you're Irish too.
>>523840767Russians (all East Slavs are simply Russians) West Slavs, Balts, Finns,Germanics and North-French.
>>523842592This is literally all cope lmaoI can't even name one single famous Swede except for Pewds, and he gtfo. But my old world national heroes live rent free in your europoor mind
>>523842458Yea but still. Egyptians are closer related to europeans thsn lets say chinese but they sre still not seen as white because they dont look white. It is s fluid term as well bssed on phenotypes also etc. But its obviously relevant and exists becauset here is s group being identified as such.
You really think Russia is white when they were under Mongol and Turk rule for almost 600 years? They’re mutts.
>>523842131Egypt was conquered by countless groups of people over the thousands of years that offered save heaved for agriculture and husbandry.Yes, ancient relatives of Western Europeans did rule Egypt for a shirt period of time, but they were eventually expelled and forced into what is now chad, where they integrated (aka, rape) to the point where 90% of some Chadian tribes are R1b.It's believed now that the R haplogroup split somewhere in the Pontiac sea, the R1a went north to hunt the last mammoths as the ice retreated, and the R1b went to what is now the Middle East and was introduced to agriculture and was slowly pushed into Europe via Anatolia.
>>523842656Weird I can think of a bunch right away: Greta, Alfred Nobel and the entire ABBA group.
>>523840767you're brown, but the disgusting brown and not vietnamese brown
>>523841143>of european genotype, with some allowance made for near eastern individuals who are phenotypically indistinguishable from the formerThis. Also the further north into eurasia you go, the more chances you going to have to see whites. Also R1a, R1b haplogroups. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R1a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R1b
>>523842816you are at least 10 years behind on the topic, R1b in the middle east is entirely derived from Europe with all its clades well under those found in east Europe, R1b is one of the oldest lineages in Europe(Villabruna HG, northeast Italy, R1b-L754, 12000BC) and it's basically an EHG lineage all the way through except for R1b-PH155 which is the only one that is from ancient north Eurasians but not through EHG and expanded later from the Tarim basineven the African R1b comes from mesolithic Balkans, then got to western EEF, then crossed into NW Africa from Spain
>>523841347
>>523840767Anyone from North western europe. Northern France and around south tyrol and upwards.
>>523842816i think it has more to do with cultural superiourity then with genetics , how would genetics even change in a mere 20000 years dramatically ? for most of its history europe was just another barbarian lands , europe had accumalated huge geographical advantages and got lucky hitting the jackpot with the americas , this gave it a lead of centuries
>>523842436Yes. The notion started in Spanish and Portuguese America. I know. Which just drives my own point home further. It was WASPs that took it further though.>>523842461Cromagnon were not smarter or more advanced in anything except cruelty. Cromagnon were like the Islam of their time. Neanderthals never went extinct btw. Neanderthals ARE Europe btw. Cromagnon are basically the middle east.
>>523840767My people, you wouldn't understand
>>523840767reminder that if you're pale but not christian then you're not european, you're jew
>>523842830Yeah, you would have knowledge of your betters.For every one famous Swede you could name, you could name 100 famous burgers.I can't name a single famous Romanian, whereas I knew of one famous Swede.There are layers to this.
>>523841143>Including FUCKING TURKEY, MOORTUGAL, GAYREECE AND SPIC PRIME (Spain) in the map as whites.Piss off, Pedro Sanchez
>>523840767Just saying Europeans (Turkey & Caucasus are not Europe) covers it rather well even if you check genetic data.
>>523843144lol this
>>523841143You can tell /pol/ mutts made this.>Georgia sometimes white>Cyprus sometimes white>Malta sometimes white>Remove all other sometimes white except DagestanThat's how it goes based on genes rather than American ideology
>>523842816>haplomemes
>>523843091>Cromagnon were like the Islam of their timeholy retard hahahahaha
>>523841347Arab pirates used to capture european slaves from mediteranean coasts. Thats why this morrocan bitch is whiter than average.Thats how there are "white" turks, they´re descendants of janissaries (serbs, croats, greeks)
>>523843160its not just genetics, it's obviously also phenotypes. an egyptian isn't "white" even though they are genetically closer to europeans than pakistanis because they simply just dont look white on average. "white" is a fluid term including various bunch of european ethnic groups(including white american)
>>523843437marrocans dont look like that on average, just google marrocans and look at the pictures.
>>523843519it depends from where they are , if they are from the north they are whiter , if they are from the south they would look like mauritanians
>>523843347Haplogroup is the ultimate DNA breadcrumbs of a civilization.We literally can trace every group using it. The idea that haplogroups should not be used because "not all winners reproduce with their wives" is a modern western European idea. A very repugnant idea.
>>523843563the marrocans on google image all dont look white.
>>523843600who cares, whites isn't just genetics. you are not white, egyptians are not white and all non-whites look non-white. (even though specific phenotypes do come from similair genetics)
>>523843132Thats because you are a willfully ignorant narcissist.
>>523842816Bro R1b in Chad are unironically the Roman expeditions who crossed the Sahara but never returned to Hispania Romana and Italia.
>>523843716Most african americans also have R1b. Haplomemes are meaningless.
>>523840767>Who are "white" people, exactly?It doesn't fucking matter, really.
>>523843716nah totally different clade, not even Indo-European, the closest ones in Europe who have clades ancestral to those in Africa are Sardinians
>>523843990Haplomemes are meaningless.
>>523843707COPE HAHAHAHAHAH
>>523844034for midwits yes, for those who have kept up with the subject and deal with clading, they can be extremely interesting
>>523843901its just that people want a more static definition i guess. whites is a fluid term and depends on perception but it obviously includes ethnicities(white american included) sharing closer genetics, history, phenotypes, because genetics, and so on. thats why leftist use the south italian argument:"look some some sicilians look not white" etc. but again, its fluid and does not necessary have to cover EVERY person of an ethnic group, although the average italian is considered white.
>>523840767people from germany, norway, denmark, iceland, sweden, austria, netherlands
>>523843627yes we still live close to a big desert and the air here doesnt feel as clean as europes , but some villages in the moutains would have many with green eyes
>>523843982i have to learn about the evil white men history in fucking germany so it obviously fucking matters
>>523840767Elfs from LOTR sorry line. We are the best race but dying out and leaving this lands. Tolkien has foreseen this
>>523843132You think that's because americans are more famous, but the reality is that you are uneducated outside of your own american dream bubble.You lack knowledge, for every famous burger I could name hundreds of europeans. You don't even have 300 years of history, don't get too cocky, subhuman mutt.The entire mythos around vampires are based on a romanian. Americans love vampires in media, yet you had no idea. Because you lack knowledge.
>>523841143This maximalist take is the best we can hope for. We should also extend hinorary white status to Nippon like Hitler did
>>523844134its not just proximity, a brown looking person doesnt look white. maybe some marrocans look white but iam talking about the people we call marrocans
Self evident when you're not being a disingenuous faggot playing talmudic semantic games.
>>523843519Thats what I´m saying, morrocan whites are genetically european, they stole them from France.Egypt is a bit more complex, since the ptolemy dynasty were greeks, from greece.Your average morrocan or turk is a brown turd, same as the average egyptian.
>>523843685white is an american invention to turn Europeans into Americans.before America pushed whiteness, people were Anglo, were Irish, were German, were French. And they had pride on it. After their manage to push white, they were just "white american".>>523843716This theory is not based on actually genetic distance and only on the fact that "it easily explains why". Occam's razor is a dangerous theory...
>>523844289other way around: whites is an european invention from people of the new world merging into american. europeans had pathways to citizenship as well, and the more global the us turned into, the broader the term white became(obviously with its perceived limits, hispanic vs non hispanic whites etc etc)
>>523844087Haplomemes and "clading" are for midwits who want to feel smart.
>>523843901most afronegrus americanus do in fact have some european ancestry, yes, but they also have distinct african haplogroups not found in europeans.
>>523844434crabs in a bucket reply, typical midwit defense mechanism, expected nothing less
>>523840767Jewish spawns, peasants that can't trace their ancient bloodlines to the beginning.
>>523844095Its fluid by design because it was devised by cosmopolitan colonials in the Americas. Many of them had Sephardic lineage I would wager.
>>523844208yes the average moroccan is brownish or have this white skin? i dont know how to name it but its not like the whiteness of europe
>>523840767Those with majority genotype from Cordedware Culture. This is the final and correct answer.
>>523844289>>523844289>white is an american invention to turn Europeans into Americans.Exactly. Just like how the EU copies American Federalism too.
>>523844605>Sephardic lineage KEK
>>523844479And I expect even less from midwits who take haplomemes seriously.
>>523844404>whites is an european inventionNo.take a look at your own country. Before WWI, poles had been enrolled in military service, most of them spoke German (probably not very well), some got the the point of changing religion to Lutheranism, and some even went to the point of Germanise their surnames to better fit in. But in the end of the day, they were poles.And this was not even a thing only between people from different language groups. Remember how Prussians called Alsatian people just because they spoke german in a funny accent?Hell, you guys still make fun, to this day, of your brothers in Austria calling them Schluchtenscheißer...
>>523844833cool story little spiteful crab everyone is a midwit including all of academia except you, you sure showed us
>>523844289>white is an american invention to turn Europeans into Americans.>before America pushed whiteness, people were Anglo, were Irish, were German, were French. And they had pride on it. After their manage to push white, they were just "white american".This is the truth. "White American" is a synthetic ethnicity. The best comparison is actually "Han Chinese".
>>523844990>everyone is a midwit including all of academiaYes. They are.Anything else?
>>523844968because europe is full of ethno states. a pole and german have more in common as "white" if they both lived in an african country.
>>523845127no keep going I'm always interested in seeing how far the crabs in a bucket mentality goes in individuals with poor education in order to build themselves a psychological defense mechanism
>>523845160thats why i mentioned proxmity, thats literally how euro ethno states formed=germans being closer to each other than the french etc. whites are just a more broader definition, globally speaking
>>523845160Do you realize that you are slowly agreeing with me?
>>523845279if you think egyptians are brown, then yes.
>>523843901>Most african americans also have R1b.They have like 1/3 european ancestry on average, because slave owners were absolute horndogs
>>523844180This is just distilled seethe honestly
>>523845279You care way too much about a continent you don't belong to.
>>523845448true. thats the reason for their slight IQ gain over the pure african nigs
>>523840767White (skin)Anglo-Saxon (ethnicity)Protestant (religious affiliation, a white can only be Anglican Ordinariate at most)=White
>>523845208>poor educationi.e. not as brainwashed as (you)
>>523845622You described a WASP, which is a subset of Whites.The White category extends beyond WASPdom, though I will concede that WASPs are the prototypical White.
>>523845448It also means african americans have a lot of Sephardic in them as well.
>>523845785>>523845785>You described a WASP, which is a subset of Whites.no, a white is a WASP.for example even if my skin was snow white I would not be white.WASP = white. At least historically it was this way in your country.
>>523845962>roach k
>>523846065>proving my pointlmao
>>523840767>Who are "white" people, exactly?certainly those who dont ask such stupid questions.
>>523840767Personally. 1. Blonde/Red hair.2. Blue Eyes3. Fair to Pale skin tone. 4. Pink nipples and pussy5. Light colored assholeIf any of the above is unchecked they are not white.
>>523840767Pretty much what America constitutes as 'White' when the term came to describe foundational and early immigrant stock. 'White' typically encapsulates Anglo, Germanic, Scandinavian, Nordic, French - and later Scots-Irish, Slavic populations, and Northern Italians. Nordics and Southern Europeans mixing typically results in Alpinid phenotypical expression, who are also ostensibly White. The status of Most Southern European populations as White is debatable, and the cultural practices and perfidiousness of Ashkenazim leads me to personally classify them as nonwhite.>>523842589Homosapiens and Neanderthals interbreeding created what can be described as Whites, which resulted in larger cranial capacity, more intense emotional processing, extended occipital bun and frontal lobe, advanced tool use, and acclimation to colder climates.
>>523840767Your superiors
>>523840767Europeans, Iranian peoples without significant Arab or South Asian admixture, some Berbers, and a small percentage of Levantine people.
