>parents can no longer gave a say on how to raise their kids, government now mandates it under threat of statistat what point did you realize republican was just big government neocon party?
>>523846242it's not saying that at all. you can still raise your son as a girl, or daughter as a boy, but it won't be permanent or irreversible and sets up you for a being brutally slaughtered later when your kids realizes how fucked you were as a parent.
Grooming a child into 'transitioning' and being drugged and mutilated is heinous child abuse. Whatever penalties this allows for are nowhere near what your kind deserve if you're caught.
>>523846242VOTING IS FAKE AND JEWISH
>>523846242>Nooo give us the freedom to utterly mutilate our spawn!>Circumcision is totally comparable btw or you're a bigot
epstein files?
The government should not force people to go through an irreversibly puberty they don't want. This bill is child abuse
>>523846624>>523846639I was brain washed and harmed by the Christian cult growing up. it caused me emotional distress knowing i could end up in hell for all eternity. guess we should ban that? also circumcision and operations on intersex children also seem to fall out of what you consider bannable in your extremely limited worldview. government being involved in anything is always bad you retards. always
>>523846242Friendship is social phenomena where usury has no place. So Jew rats call it social - ismYes we can make our own decisions in a peoples congress.Self organize in a peoples congress.Every ones needs can be met by free giving from the heart, in a peoples congress. leadership is a fraud of thugs . Pigs feed the dogs that enforce rules written by pigs.
>>523846242Mutilating children should always be illegal. Adults can do it on their own dime.
>>523846697republicans support circumcision. they even passed a law codifying it
>>523846242All the breeders depend on the government to protect their tax spawn from Tyrone and Abdul as well as you chuds. Most people are docile breeder wagies who have no interest in any revolution or radical change, never mind risking their life for anything. All they care about is waging so that their tax spawn can survive into adulthood and perpetuate the cycle.
>>523846912you would have to ban circumcision and intersex operations. both of these would fail on 1st amendment grounds.
>>523846692It is not fake, you vote for realjust no one count your voteskek
One of the few good things congress has done in ages and it still only passed by five votes. I suspect this will eventually end up being a state to state thing just like abortion when Roe v Wade was dropped by SCOTUS. >>523846890>its child abuse to criminalize child abuseCome again?
>>523846897Then you fucks go on to shill for socialism so nice try xister.
>>523846897Telling children fairy tales is entirely reversible. Circumcision should absolutely be banned as an elective surgery on children but no american politician will deny Tel Aviv it's daily cockamari ration.
This is obviously what was going to happen dude
>>523847440it’s unconstitutional so it can’t pass anyway. its taking away my rights as a parent to raise my kids and criminalizing me for it
>>523846897are you still a christian? if not then you disprove your own point. just as the child who isnt irreparably damaged by surgery and chemical changes, you too, despite being a little baby boy drama queen, can leave the church, find a new path, and be euphoric. grow up.
need all troons and troon enablers launched into the sun
>>523846624This>>523846897You're all so fucking dramatic and ridiculous.
>>523846897Christianity, Circumcission and Transgenderism should all be criminalized. There. Solved the riddle for you.
>>523847474this bill is the definition of socialism. its saying the state controls your kids, not parents. republicans are socialists
>>523846242Good, now ban circumcision.
>>523846242fuckin weird hill to die on, demanding the ability to mutilate children
>>523847595detranstion is s thing as well
>>523847582>>523847582>its taking away my rights as a parent to abuse my kids and criminalizing me for itftfy
>>523846242>Sept 11 2001 is when I realized
>>523847652this
>>523847440Forcing someone to go through puberty they don't want is irreversible. Teenagers should be able to be informed by a doctor and decide if they want puberty blockers. They shouldn't be forced by their parents or the government to have their body change permanently
>>523847685your literally saying the state should control our kids. you are one fucked up piece of shit. no wonder you still have a monarch in sweden.
>>523846242Kids aren't allowed to get tattoos, so they definitely shouldn't be allowed to ruin their bodies with HRT and surgeries.Next, we should ban circumcision for under 18.
>>523846242you're a disgusting fucking faggot and you lost lol
>>523847160Apparently not since it just passed the House
>>523847712Trump is a zionist asshole, but this bill is still a small step in the right direction. I can keep several thoughts in my head at once you know.
>>523847836congress is an oligarchy
>>523846897Oh, you're one of these fags.
>>523846897Looks like Satan won you over. I will pray for you.
>>523847815> Next, we should ban circumcision for under 18.trump codified that male circumcision should be allowed
>>523847563The whole point of politics is to enact a resolution for various dramas Kabuki theater, as they say
Just more stuff to show my trans son to help him keep his private parts and flat chest unlike those other failures
>>523847854this is criminalizing thought and parenting. and a violation of states’ right as well. completely and brazenly unconstitutional
>>523847474>shill for socialismAre you not s national socialist? Cringe
>>523847767>>523847767>Teenagers should be able to be brianwashed and groomed by a doctor or me and be coerced and manipulated into thinking its great to cheat biology and that it will not hamper their biology or mental state at all eventually
>raising your kid a national socialist is child abuseuh chuds, care to respond?
>>523846242Its time to end it anon. We are purging the sickness.
>>523846733pedos are still free to go home
>>523846242Lol! A bunch of troonkids will now be stuck in between. No longer being able to get their hormones they will neither be able to pass as a boy nor as a girl.
>>523848178Someone should tell Trump no matter how much money he gives Israel he will neve be a kile
>>523848178>no matter how much jewish cock you suck, you will always be a goy
>>523847854If you believe that, why would you assume he is acting in your best interest at ANY time?
Please allow us to surgically alter your healthy newborn’s genitals. It’s jewish tradition, God allegedly wants it, and there’s a chance—if he grows up a degenerate, and ignores every other prevention method—that this irreversible decision you make today might statistically benefit him decades from now if he's suddenly not white and a nigger.”
>>523846897No, you're just a maladjusted cunt that blames the instilling of good moral character and faith for your various failings.You fucked up all on your own, Jesus didn't need to help.
>>523846242>nooo I cant groom and castrate children anymore!How horrible.>parentsWe both know that 99% of the time this shit doesnt come from the parents but teachers, councellors and the like.
>>523848040>>I love you son, I adore my wife, I wish I could show their bodies off to the whole world
Nobody cares about trannies though
>>523848178You WILL, however be made a slave of jews and you WILL like it.
>>523848363Gtfo raj
>>523846242no link and date cropped off???
>>523848325its literally calling for criminalizing parenting. the republican party, allegedly the party of family, now wants them broken apart and foster care raising kids, which is one of the worst outcomes for a child. like unironically you need to rope yourself.
>>523846897>muh cultLet me guess your dad made you go to Subday mass and your mom wouldn't let you wear her clothes...Heres the thing: even if what you wrote is true, thats no reason to turn children into freaks for your political dogma/narcicism/fetishes.>t. atheist
>>523847770No. I would have preferred if the neolithic revolution never happened at all and no cities or states ever formed to begin with. Cavemen did not go around chopping their own dicks off or take drugs to alter their biology. You insane shitlibs who were yourselves brought up suckling the same dysgenicist state that only now takes away this one thing from you (and I suspect its only temporary and/or full of loopholes anyway) would not even exist and flourish if it were not for the state to begin with.
>>523848363>>523848273>>523848224You struggle most before the end. Its always darkest before the dawn. Its time to free yourself anon. Trans is fake and gay. Gender is not a real thing. There is only biological sex and its effects on the real world.
>>523848412Are you mutilated yourself or are you just a fan of baby torture?
>>523848069You don't have a right to mutilate your children. Kill yourself.
>>523848493your aren’t an atheist. you simply traded one god for another (the state)
>>523848471Mutilating your kids isn't parenting.
>>523848506Don’t curse at me like that shiteater
>>523848505>biological60% of humans are intersex
>>523848314No. Because I am not a narrow minded midwit like (you).>>523848316Yeah the conservashits are probably only passing this in order to spark shitlib outrage and then during the next Democrat administration or Democrat dominated congress they will introduce a bill thats the polar opposite of this.
>>523846242where's the legislation for circumcision
>>523846897did the christian cult permanently alter your body?
>>523846897Shut the fuck up you fucking pussy, man up
>>523846242Massive kike L
>>523846897>things that didnt happenNext...
>>523846242>NOW WILL YOU JOIN THE MILITARY?!?!?
>>523848586so foster system is good for parenting? what about sending parents to jail? you are willing to support the ramifications of society? you realize you are gonna put millions in poverty doing thus
>>523848471Destroying a child isnt parenting, its child abuse. But again: stop acting like this will mainly limit parents. It will limit those (usually childless) wanting to impose this shit on parents.
>>523848224>>523848273>>523848363holy shit you troon niggers are SEETHING lmfao
>>523848642No, you're just a fucking faggot and you lost.
>>523846964>Most people are docile breeder wagies who have no interest in any revolution or radical change, never mind risking their life for anythingAnd then there are midwits like you with no idea of the consequences of armed conflict or the fact that, due to the international systems of finance in place, a revolution means watching event you live suffer and die until you win and march straight back into the system we were fighting to stop
>>523847582Since when do conservatives care about the constitution
>>523848821Everyone you love*
>>523848712I think its just some temporary false defeat for them. Like most things conservashits do. Pretend they are doing something and then walk it back later anyway.
>>523848671>did christian cult alter your bodyyes pull down your pants and see your dick. and most people who voted for this bill along with trump and his kids
>>523848651>midwit>this guy that hates me has my best interests at heart SometimesYou’re either a naive faggot or a subversive heeb>either way a kike in spirit
>>523848804> faggotwe are talking about transgenderism and intersex, not LGB people
>>523848774
>>523848774Leave the baby dicks alone freak.
>>523847767Puberty is natural, and stopping it has harmful effects, including literally making you stupid. Saying that you should have the choice to stop puberty is as unhinged as giving people the right to cut off their own limbs because they didn't consent to being able bodied, or gouge out their eyes because they don't consent to seeing.
>>523848714Also basically this. Sign tappers will be vindicated once more soon enough.
>>523848733>deflect when pressed about mutilating children to suddenly talking about fosteringWhat a non-sequiturHow is lopping off genetalia parenting anon?We'll send the doctors to jail, but none of them will be brave enough to engage in mengelian horror experiments if it would cost them everything. There aren't enough actual ideologues in medicine who aren't simply motivated by the vast cash cow the transexual industry represents.
>>523848579Idc how you want to frame it nor for your mental gymanstics and copes. Its obvious to anyone with a sliver of common sense and decency that all this troon shit is sick and wrong and children should be protected from it - no buts and ifs.
>>523846242tap tap tapstill troons, time to give up the game. dress up and play make believe all you want, but hands off the fucking kids.
>>523848744>it doesn’t really effect parenting>except it makes parenting illegal and will throw thousands of kids in poverty and rape via foster care
>>523846639Gender dysphoria is a mental illness that should be treated as such. You don't treat mental illness by entertaining one's delusions, especially not by permanently modifying his or her body. That's barbaric.
>>523848986Mutilation isn't parenting.
>>523848774>>523848505What does that have to do with my post
>>523846890Kill yourself you demonic antichrist spawn. >>523846897>jesus is bad but permanently mutilating and sterilizing children is goodKill yourself and go back to hell, demon spawn. >>523846242KYSIt’s almost as if you’re asking for it, asking for a strong authoritarian Homelander like figure to brutally crush you and pulverize all other heresy and corruption left and right.
Good.Not only is it completely insane to give a child such drugs, or to cut off a 14 year old girls tits w\ a very high chance she'll later regret it, but if a boy is confused into thinking they're a girl, why would you then support the delusion? You're going to give them estrogen, and puberty blockers?Why not give them testosterone? I bet that boy won't be confused when he's 10 years old benching 225, and pullying middle school hoes.
>>523848956your country is s dictatorship. i don’t care what you think. you have law saying you having your wages taken as a form of work slavery
>>523848991The free market created an entire industry around it anon. They based it on dogshit studies presenting flimsy evidence, real winning combos.Tell the schizos the voices are real, it's profitable apparently.
>>523848875So you think its bad when child grooming and abuse is criminalized? I fail to see how it makes me jewish somehow too.I am not overtly optimistic over this. Because I suspect its just something that will vindicate the sign tapping meme once again anyway.
>>523848919Man that's gotta be what fucks me up the most about these peopleI know they know about the consequences, the stunted growth, developmental disability, risk of strokes and heart attacks and cancers, all associated with attempting to delay or prevent puberty. They just refuse to acknowledge them. They act stupid. It's infuriating.
>>523846624Cis puberty is just as permanent. >when your kids realizes how fucked you were as a parent.Chud fantasy that's the polar opposite to reality. The reality is, it's parents who reject their teen's trans identity who get completely shut out from them for good. You disingenuous shitbags have been claiming everyone will detransition in 2 more weeks for like 20 years now
>>523849134OMG THOSE *clap* RISKS *clap* ARE *clap* PARENTING! *clap*
>>523849134We should just give kids HRT immediately and skip the puberty blockers. They're just an unnecessary compromise designed to placate uncomfortable cis people
>>523848642Errors is made up measurements are meaningless anon. That just some shit human made up to try and understand what is true. Humans reproduce. If you cannot reproduce you are not a full human. Humans come in two biological sexes. One produces large gametes (eggs), one produces small gametes (sperm). Anything else cant reproduce, Anything else is damaged mutated or otherwise failed. They are not fully human.This may sound harsh but its a simple description of what is real. We still treat them as equal, not because any people are equal none are, but because the systems we design to work as a group are dangerous and prone to abuse. We treat everyone as equal before the law because the law is prone to abuse and privileging or exploiting people and we keep everyone equal before it to prevent its excesses.Two sexes. No other. Failed mutants do not define a new sex. When humans develop a system to try and measure the genes that produce sex and the system produces erroneous results that means the system of measurement is shit not that there is no such thing as biological sex.
>>523849080OP you are a dick sucking pedophiles who`s transition surgery failed and you sit at the computer smelling you stinking new pussy and sucking on you severed dick. Disgusting subhuman.
>>523849134And they are the same people that just hecking loves basedence too.
>>523848899Sub-group of faggots he categorized you correctly.
>>523848986Again: stop acting like this will mainly limit parents. It will limit those (usually childless) wanting to impose this shit on parents. Drop the muh parents faux concern, its extremely transparent. The people that want this arent parents. YOU aren't a parent, and never will be - this is preciesly why you want access to the children of others.You won't get to fuck up more children and thats a good thing.
>>523846242Good. Next step is ban all genital mutilation
P>>Of course it's banned. My trans child just looks like this naturally Ha Ha Ha Ha
>>523849134throwing people in jail has never solved ANYTHING in society. a felony conviction is for life. like meat packing companies can literally have conditions that kill people and get fined a few dollars. if you think america isn’t an oligarchy or our laws aren’t scewed towards intrests of the wealthy you are delusional
>>523846242>Kikes get big mad when they can't mutilate childrenInshallah
>>523849055>14 year old girls tits w\ a very high chance she'll later regret itRegret rate for this exact procedure is under 1% even if you comb through every single therapist session these kids ever have looking for regret keywordshttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9555285/
>>523849286>>523849286>And they are the same people that just hecking loves basedence too.And they are the same people that just hecking loves soience too.I have never really bothered to find out why this site censors that particular word. But I bet the reason is beyond stupid.
>>523849155>trans identity That doesn’t exist. It’s a made up schizoid idea that has no basis in reality whatsoever. Biology shapes the mind not the other way around or else if that was true, gorillas and chimpanzees would be also operating heavy machinery, building rockets, and constructing sky scrappers. Which they are not, due to different brain wiring folds and size.Equivalently, biological sex is always going to be your perceived self identity sex/gender, and anything outside of that then there is something inherently wrong with you or you got irradiated or chem poisoned or some other external issue. Now shut the fuck up and kill yourself if you can’t stop espousing demonic, evil tainted views that are wrong in every scientific and logical way possible.
>>523849155>Cis pubertyIts called "puberty", and it's meant to happen because otherwise you're left a stunted mind in a stunted body at risk for all sorts of deadly diseases and disorders that you otherwise wouldn't be. It's almost like transgenderism is an expression of the fear of aging and death, and a refusal to accept it by trying to enforce a mastery over the workings of your own body. But it just doesn't work like that, and regardless of your fantasies of a sci-fi future where people magically remap themselves at will, it very well may NEVER work like that.You've got to let go and just be yourself, give up jerking the steering wheel expecting a better result.
>>523849240> If you cannot reproduce you are not a full human.dam i guess 20% of naturally infertile women aren’t human now
>>523846242finally, some good news
>>523846242Good. Maybe they will ban circumcision next.
>>523849128>yes he will start arresting his friends and peers kek>they never do what they claim>there’s probably some terrible shit mixed in with the bill that we won’t see until after it has passed>USA is under zog>zios are branch of an international pedophile death cult>it is jew vs you no matter what you choose to believe
>>523849155>>523849234Every post you troons make here, turns people away from your cause even more. Remember that. Cannot believe you clowns advocate for. Children have no agency, sorry troon.
>>523849352That would be deeply antisemitic though.
>>523849330Projection. Parents of trans kids often support them, and that should be their choice -- because almost all evidence suggests this helps them.
>>523849352I think we should. Circumsicion, believe it or not, was treated as a reward back thenIf everyone is bitching, WHATS THE POINT
>>523849080No buts and ifs.
>>523849452This is just schizo garbage. If you refuse to believe trans people even exist then of course you're going to be against anything that might help them. The reality is that you're a sick person who hates others for violating gender norms that you enslave yourself to
>>523849482Correct. They can still try and have as much out of life as possible but they will never complete what it is to be human. Many don't and that is fine but that has zero force to change what biological sex is.
>>523849234Those cause the exact same fucking problems. Estrogen treatment lowers mens IQ and everyone that takes it, including women that medically need it, is at a sharply elevated risk of strokeThese idiots raised in echo chambers have no idea what they're fucking with when they fuck with hormones
>>523849330where does it say in the bill that parents wont face felony conviction for life that leaves a record and takes their guns?
Does this ban circumcision?
>>523849479>it's meant to happen because otherwise you're left a stunted mind in a stunted body Give trans teens HRT instead of blockers and this won't happen>give up jerking the steering wheel expecting a better result.Just stop trying to improve your life it makes me uncomfortable
>>523848899>we're talking about faggots, not faggots>>523848909>>523849010you lost, tranny
>>523849134They are simply selfish and want just to have their way and don't care about the consequences others must suffer. Pro-immigration people are the same.
>>523849600
>>523849611ok so if a trans women freezes their sperms, gets SRS, uses the sperm to impregnate a women and have kids, that is a full human according to you?
>>523849492Yes I know his laundry list of zio and mob connections are still a mile long. And I have probably known that longer than you have. And what part of the following did you not comprehend: I am not overtly optimistic over this. Because I suspect its just something that will vindicate the sign tapping meme once again anyway.
>>523849507>children have no agencyThis is what conservatives believe. Children are slaves for their breeding cult and no amount of misery is too much if it increases breeding potential by 0.001%
>>523846897God made you special and He loves you very much
>>523846897Circumcision absolutely should be banned but don’t expect any of the coping cutfags on /pol/ to agree with you. Genital mutilation is only bad when it’s trannies. When it’s done to baby males on an industrial scale, that’s just normal, since Dr. Shekelberg said it’s cleaner or something.
>>523849213>>523849234>>523849393kill yourself faggot
>>523846242>protecting children who cannot consent from groomers who want to fulfill some disgusting sexual fetish on children is bad>somehowNeck yourself nigger.
>>523849697Kekd
>>523849697some transgender people are straight. this is like saying intersex people are gay. but your a chud
>>523849600They can't be helped, gender dysphoria is real, but mostly a socially-informed phenomena. The increase in the population identifying with troons is caused by social pressures and not any kind of innate predisposition.By banning the bullshit we are taking corrective action socially and culturally which will, in time, substantially reduce the incidence rate of troons.
>>523849155>wah you must accept my sex porn addiction fantasies as being as natural as cookies and melk! Wah I am not a groomer I am liberting these children in my school district! You guys are dunning kruger mixed with complete cognitive dissonance. It is unreal that is why you naturally make others leery of your extremist positions.
>>523849752kill yourself you disgusting fucking faggot, no one will miss you
>>523846242>tranny trying to use our principles against usNo tranny, that's preventing retards like you from sterilizing and doing genital mutilation.
>>523846242>BTFO'd from Yemen, Afghanistan and Ukraine>A fourth of the US navy in the Caribbean rn>W-we also have benefits like free college, y-you know?
>>523849729Chocolate covered starfish
>>523846242Kill yourself Troon. Any parent that trooned their kid should be executed.
>>523849725Jews are the primary ones pushing this astroturfed trans controversy, trans kids have been getting treatment since the 1990s. Have fun paying Dr. Silverstein $40,000 for FFS goyim
>>523849794>some transgender people are straightNo, you're just a fucking faggot in a dress. Everyone hates you lol. You should just end it right now.
>>523849776>anon is incapable of detecting sarcasm
>>523849393You're coping. The doctors are informed of the risks, they know what they're doing to those kids, they willfully do so for money anyways. We're not talking about meat packing plants right now. If you want to lobby for harsher punishments for health code violations (which you obviously are just pretending to know a thing about) and cite this law when you do so, then do it! You will probably find support among the same people here that are arguing with you now.
>>523849729And full male life including self harm and modification/mutilation. He reproduced using his small gametes after all. There may be other effects. Who knows what mental changes will effect the child when his father provides such an example.But yes a complete who male life for the father.
>>523849815>faggotwe are talking about transgenderism people. i don’t know why you have to bring homophobia into this as gay couples don’t have anything to so with this
>>523849859kill yourself tranny
>>523849749I guess I can’t comprehend how you have any optimism toward him or any other zogbot or mockingbird at all
>>523849776Really showing how much you care about the kids, you can't even pretend to not take glee in them killing themselves for 1 thread
better vote for the other guys next time
>>523849776Based! Have some Pidser and Kole, Fren.
>>523846242Silly loony troon. You have no kids and court order to stay the fuck away from them.You don't care at all about the children, you are only upset that your access to new victims is being criminalized further.Finally there is absolutely zero reproducible evidence that transition treatments help the "patient" in any way, there are mountains of evidence that is is nothing but compounding problems and mutilation for every form of transition treatments.I would tell you to kill yourself, but you are already in the process of a very slow and painful suicide, and on behalf of all of /pol/ we are cheering you on for your success in this endeavor of a painful end to your worthless life.Do a back flip faggot.
>>523849797>society should revolve around the fact that i don't like how trannies make my penis twitch
>>523849894you are a faggot, kill yourself>>523849943that was an adult, you retarded fucking faggot
>>523849806>dunning krugerTrans people are smarter than cissoids
>>523849695>Give trans teens HRT instead of blockersAnd their health takes even more of a hit. You do not understand your recommendations. You are not engaging honestly. You do not have the health, happiness, or safety of anyone, not even yourself in mind when you say things like this. You have fallen under the sway of the death drive and want to destroy and kill and die and this is your outlet.
>>523849859Yessir
>>523849984thank you fren don't mind if I do
>>523850014faggot is a term for gay people.
>>523846242Brave new world. Best time for being teacher who would teach 4 year old girls how to take dicks up their asshole. Fuck parents. Their job is done. In fact fetus should be taken from them and then raped to show the new organism brave new world.
You racist Timmy's are gonna get a hurt real bad. We have figured out the captcha enigma. We are coming for you! We will dox you, and shit in your street!
Post YFW you realized that all the Americans ITT talking about genital mutilation have mutilated cocks themselves
>>523846897>>523847582>>523847767>>523848069>>523848471>>523849155
>>523850029no, you're just a retarded fucking faggot, that's why you keep losing and everybody hates you lol
>>523846890Children have a right to grow up free from heathen concepts
>>523850029
>>523849995That's some cool projection.
>>523846242It's protecting kids, the same way parents can't kill their kids. You do not have control of your child's body.
>>523850041>but the heckin 1980s!!!Don't care fag, jews are pushing against trans people NOW and you are an agent of kike subversion
>>523849393When I fucked your mother and sister in the ass they said the same thing till they realized the pleasure of my massive black dick. They also said they were disgusted with your transition surgery. Disgusting subhuman.
>>523849752First off I am not "conservative". Secondly everyone knows children are easily impresionable and you trooners use that to your own advantage yourselvs. You groom them into a cult and use their trust and emotions to your advantage. And thirdly the anon that said children have no agency is wrong in its own way. That was very poorly worded. But you are vile.
>>523846242I don't care about all the bad stuff trump did, this is a big win and it was worth getting him in office
>>523850029You can literally massage any data to say anything you want it to
>>523850052troons are faggots, you retarded fucking faggot
>>523850101And I’m eternally pissed off about it
>>523850101At least I'm not brown...
>>523847582You don't have the right to amputate your children's limbs just because guy feel like it
>>523846242Oh, anon. Are you one of those people that think parents have rights? When a child is born, the parent is deemed the natural guardian. But guardianship can be revoked at any time for any reason. Raising your child is a privilege. Just ask any foster kid
>>523846242Fuck off tranny, unchecked freedom to do whatever you want is not part of the deal. Kids dont have a clue, I know you dont have any because you sterilized yourself but a minor is not legally an adult for a reason
>>523850150>You fuckin retardThey never stopped
>>523849514Are you a parent? I am.>>523849514Funny how despite all this supposed evidence even the most progressive countries are clamping down in troon stuff...>>523849393>throwing people in jail has never solved ANYTHING in societyEl Salvador disagrees. You are completely detached from reality by the way.
>>523849697That didn't answer my question though
>>523847767It's but possible to stop puberty. That's human nature
>>523850229At least you're not one of the soulless NPCs who defends it
>>523850169>everyone knows children are easily impressionableThen why does conversion therapy fail miserably and cause kids to commit suicide? Funny how scum like you treat LGBT identity as a contagious that can be caught but it only works in one direction for some reason. Almost like you're a bigoted moron
>>523849937Are you just willfully misunderstanding me now or what.I have NO optimism WHATSOEVER about Trump. I never have and I never will. And I have known who and what he actually and repressents longer than you have. I bet you only woke halfway into his first term. I have known since before he was even president the first time around yet.
>>523850029Not surprising. High IQ is outside the norm. This would not be surprising if it correlates with other outside the norm behaviors as well. Gays supposedly have higher IQ as well. The problem is what is lumped under those descriptions. Not all gay behavior is equal and not all trans behavior is equal. Both would hide a chuck of mentally ill attention whores.The brain is most of your dna and mutates over time. Human behavior would show mutation long before the body.
>>523846897It looks like you easily reversed that Christian “cult” influence, anon. Try growing your tits or testicles back later in life. Face it, minor transitions are purely to make them “hotter”. It’s sexual abuse for fetish purpose, done to a child. We saw Jazz on TV, it’s Mengela shit.
>>523846242No, its mot your right to turn your kids into hormonally imbalanced deranged troons that pose very real physical threats to society at large. Your rights end where the physical safety of others begins.
So are dems gonna campaign on changing the definition of minor or aoc to new born?
>>523849887> We're not talking about meat packing plants right now. If you want to lobby for harsher punishments for health code violations (which you obviously are just pretending to know a thing about) and cite this law when you do so, then do it! You will probably find support among the same people here that are arguing with you now.the people in congress make sure things like tyson food is protected from all liability.
>>523850101Kek, but that kinda reinforces their point in opposing even more of it.
>>523850229Despite what people here are saying, circumcision in the US is going out of styleI believe it only persists at all because the majority of the men it's happened to haven't spent a single minute of their lives critically thinking about it.Like, where do you go to get that sort of conversation started besides here?
>>523846897>I need to make my relatively normal upbringing tragic otherwise I have no excuse for how disappointing my life is
>>523850292>even the most progressive countries are clamping down in troon stuff...Every country that has banned trans teens from transitioning has terrible trans healthcare for adults. It's not a coincidence, it's politically motivated
>>523846242Based
>>523846624Puberty blockers and hormone therapy aren't just for turning kids trans you know... this is like when christ niggers talk ahit about birth control. These people just hate advanced medical science.
>>523850319>I may haveI was answering three different anons for a bit
>>523850214no they aren’t always. do you call intersex people who are 60% of the population that?
>>523846242>let children mutilate themselves to own the chuds!actual mental illness. kids are retarded and malleable. just don't abuse kids and you're fine
>>523846242Child abuse has never been legal
>>523850356>The brain is most of your dna and mutates over time. Human behavior would show mutation long before the bodySaying this while claiming it's impossible to have an intersexed brain is wild
>>523850292> El Salvadorthe president is on the pay roll of gangs and prisons run by gangs. are you insane?
>>523850401>I agree>i have no ideaWhen you figure out the places let me know plox
>>523846242most parents i mean like 90% of them are dogshit.Doesn't help the school system is dogshit too.And most of the public in general.
>>523850319>No anonI woke up when the kikes sent my father to Iraq to die in 2003
>>523849600>help themWhat…you know what would help? Purging such ideas and “knowledge” out of existence so it’s erased from all public and private knowledge therefore it automatically lessens the instances of such tranny incidents in the future. That’s real help, making sure easily malleable certain youngsters don’t succumb to moronic, psychotic schizoid notions of gender identity and doing gender backflips. There is no such thing as transgender and just because you can imagine it in your very well evolved frontal cortex / hominid brain doesn’t make it real. Imagination and pretend play schizoid ideas in your head =/ reality. Get that fucking straight you moron. >enslaved to gender somethingWhat?! Do you just make up your own world view and world construct so you can automatically deem yourself to be correct in every debate in argument?Must be very convenient to be able to deny reality 24/7.>hate themHmmm yes, God commands me to hate evil, and what we are witnessing is evil being done to the young and defenseless which is one of the greatest evils, so great that even Jesus spoke about it as to what happens to someone who make the little ones stumble.For your sake, I do hope you kill yourself because otherwise soon enough, the Federal ICE super troopers and other zogbots will make you KYS so you don’t infect anyone else with your corruption.
>>523846242Neck yourself tranny
>>523850399Yeah but you hardly see people talkking about banning circumcision unlike tranny mutilation. These people literally had their own cocks mutilated by the circumcision procedure, like 90% of males in America, yet they're focused on some unrelated form of mutilation that never affected them or more than 1% of the population and which is possible to avoid if you're a mentally strong teenager as oppossed to a newborn who can't even talk yet. I'm sure all the babies being strapped to tables today are going to be happy to learn about how you were parading about "ending genital mutilation" in 2025. These people will never go after the main form of genital mutilation that actually affects most american males. Because it would piss off the jews. Simple as.
>>523850315Then how come you leave out the part of the suicide statistics among transitioners that did not kill themselves over conversion therapy. Because you are a shamelessly biased piece of odious shit playing mindgames on kids and think you have a right to. You are no different than christcuck conservashit lunatics in that regard and you both deserve each other. I have a personal, unquenchable hatred of you both because I have personally seen the worst of both worlds growing up. I would like to see you both excised from the universe. The end.
>>523850583throwing people in jail and a felony conviction will surely help right? kids without parents end up in poverty. this should call this the gun grabbing and poverty increaser act
>>523846897
>>523849419>Survey of 209 patients, with follow up surveys only at 3 and 7 years, no data on how many of the 209 actually completed a follow up, and 65% complication rate Lol, LMAO evenSilly loony troon that is a steaming pile of shit that only shows lopping of young girls tits is detrimental.
>>523846624This. Don’t be a turbofag OP
>>523849514>because almost all evidence suggests this helps them.There is zero evidence that shows this. All of it shows a pattern of compounding problems with anything that supports a sexual fetish.
can anyone defend the poverty and rape caused by parentless kids?
>>523846242it's wild that it was ever even remotely considered legal to mutilate children, even if it's your own child.
>>523850814i guess government should get involved. the “best” thing to do is have government involved in these issues right?
>>523850029>jollyhereticThat's not the guy you want to use to defend your trans-ness. He's going to use that data to show why trans is a defect. You very clearly don't know who that guy is, because he's going to show how the higher IQ trans people are actually autists and libcucks who fall victim to the group think of the current thing.
>>523849600>. If you refuse to believeYes, because the entire concept of transitioning is nothing more than a degenerative sexual fetish.
>>523850667No. It will not help. You will use this counterproductive bill to your advantage now and eventually when you dominate congress and have the presidency again you will the pass the polar opposite of it. Which will not make society more well adjusted and functional either. But you don’t actually care about that.
>>523846242kill yourself child mutilator
>>523850412>has terrible trans healthcare for adultsOh I agree with this, just not the way you do.>>523850484>unsaneYou are either that, a liar or both.
>>523846242Garson, may I have another got what I voted for award?
>>523851003>homocides are down cause lines say so>we simply redefined what homocide means>all those murders in prisons don’t countyour a dum dum
>>523850483We cant understand the brain anon. We dont know what a male or female brain is. Any attempt to describe such things fails because we cant understand the complexity. What we can understand is no one can see inside your brain. They can only interact with your physical external body. In the end we create the social construct of male and female because like all things we cannot comprehend full objective reality. Male and female are created to explain the two halves of humanity that can reproduce. they and all behaviors that come from them serve that. And ultimately that means small gametes male large gametes female.The brain does not enter into it because we dont see inside the brain.
>>523849695>Just stop trying to improve your life it makes me uncomfortable>>523849752>are slaves for their breeding cultOh the shock, the loony troon actually just wants to abuse kids.
>>523846242>Bill is passed with absolutely no teeth in it at all and zero punishmentsOh yeah this is the heckin win we needed, Trumpbros.
>>523849155Bait
For those curious:The three Democrats who voted yes (in favor) were:>Rep. Henry Cuellar (D-TX)>Rep. Don Davis (D-NC)>Rep. Vicente Gonzalez (D-TX)The four Republicans who voted no (against) were:>Rep. Gabe Evans (R-CO)>Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick (R-PA)>Rep. Mike Kennedy (R-UT)>Rep. Mike Lawler (R-NY)
The only reason these surgeries should be done in the idea of the people who support them is because the child thinks they should be the opposite sex, however just like many things, children should not have a say in it. There is no reason for a parent to force becoming trangender on their child like they do with other things (like not eating sweets for every meal).
>>523846242>they can decide to cut their genitals off but not to have sexbizarre double standard
>>523851327>however just like many things, children should not have a say in it.I don't know why people act like this is controversial.Children are not full people, they do not and should not have the same rights as an adult.Someone who cannot decide their own bedtime does not get to decide that they're the wrong gender.
>>523851307Is the just Red area dems and blue rea republicans? Might tell us more about their voters than them.
>>523851387How about you can decide to troon at the same age you can own a gun?
>>523850864Silly loony troon, you have already shown you have zero arguments let alone concept of reality.So you must be auditioning for thread lolcow. Honestly though you are failing at that also.
>>523846242>parents can no longer gave a say on how to raise their kids, government now mandates it under threat of statistParents can no longer torture, mutilate, and kill their children.>Oy vey!>This is antisemitism!!!
>>523851457children own guns. are u retarded?
>>523846242though i'm against trans-ops, the problem here is, it's not a power reserved to congress -- and possibly not even to the states.therefore, this law seems intentionally set-up to fail judicial review.
Whats going on with troons right now in America reminds me of how the pedo normalization that ran rampant after the sexual revolution started being rolled back in the 80s. Its the same trajectory. I hope I am long dead and buried by the time you freaks are trying to push necrophilia as normal human behavior that should be enshrined by legislation.
>>523851167As I suspected.
>>523847675your detransition, sis
>>523846242They should just take the 3 democrats who voted to ban transgenders and make those 3 the rulers of US.All problems solved.
>>523846897Oh my Science, you're right! I'm going out to vote for Kamala right away!
>>523846242get bent, demon-jew.
Sorry but you can't abuse and mutilate a child anymore.
>>523846242Freedom as a government backed iron clad contract is an illusion. In reality you're free to whatever you want, the moment you get caught doing something illegal that freedom is gone. The whole point of laws is they protect the rights of other people you are trying to harm by turning them into a Frankenstein lab experiment. The fact that it took this long to push this legislation just shows how many people in the psychiatric industry and medical industry really badly want to harm children.
>>523850864i don't reach for the government as a first, second, or even third solution, but society criminalizing child mutilation is perfectly fine, the sort of people who argue for legalizing child mutilation is fairly small and mostly jewish or african.
>>523851505No children own guns in the US. Parents own guns and children can use them with parents supervision. Current US federal law is 18 for rifles and 21 for hand guns.
>>523846242And yet they won't ban circumcision.
>>523846897I too was brainwashed by the troon cult years ago. I thought I was on a journey to find myself and better myself but I couldnt be more wrong. I spent time on discords where adults would solicit drugs to kids and take advantage of those seeking refuge. I used to browse 420chans /cd/ daily when I got started on my HRT regimen. At some point when a guy did home surgery on himself cutting out his testicles then frying them on a skillet like a pancake I realized these individuals are unwell and need help. And that wouldnt even be the last time Id see threads revolving around self harm. Theres no escaping it when the whole ideology is based on self harm. You will never have a womb capable of producing children, you only succeeded in self sterilization.Someday I hope you wake up from this psyop.
>>523847160Neither of those are speech.
>>523851725Appearently only a very watered down, toothless version of the bill passed. And mind you its just the house. It has to go through the senate too.Trump is not killing woke. He is pretending to dismantle it while quietly solidifying it.
>>523851826That would be deeply antisemitic.
>>523846242>Gender is a social construct>but I NEEEEEED hormones and surgery before twink death so I can have gay sex while pretending I look like the women in the porn I'm addicted to before it is too late and the norwood reaper comes for me!Heh
>>523846242>what do you MEAN i can't permanently disfigure and sterilize your children? What a strange thing to get so hung up over
>>523847503No
>>523852009it doesn’t matter, its personal choice. republicans are the party of anti-choice
>>523846242
>>523852182Children cannot consent. Republicans are the party of anti pedophilia.
>>523849393>if you think america isn’t an oligarchy or our laws aren’t scewed towards intrests of the wealthy you are delusionalIt is reckless to quickly judge people because of an opinion, anon. He could also be an NGO or a fed shill.
>>523852261> Children cannot consent. ?????????????????!!!!!!?????!!!!!!???
>>523852182But it's not a personal choice since it involves a minor's body thoughbeit. Lolberg pedos and kikes telling on themselves has been the best gift this administration has given, ironic since Trump is neither a right winger or anti-jew
>>523846242basedand kvetch moar, pedofag
>>523852376Either that is highly illegal because children cannot consent. Or their parents own those McDonalds and the Children were there under the supervision of their parents. What were the legal ramifications of this finding anon? Was it shut down? What was the explanation beyond an attention grabbing headline. Especially with headlines often being disconnected from the actual substance for click bait.
>>523852261I despise the degenerate you responded to as well but you are wrong on both counts here. Children can say yes or no. They can also be easily led on though. Something trooners and groomers take full of advantage of.And the GOP are the party of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luaNtVFxdG4&list=RDluaNtVFxdG4&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQHrbJPhus4
>>523852383ok so minors have zero consent over their existence. you realize even under us law, animals are considered to have some degree of consent and rights.
>>523851574This woman killed her own son by accepting and promoting his behavior.
>>523852376>Some people got caught using child labor so that justifies me grooming children Loony troon, you are still failing at being a lolcow
>>523847243well, they kinda count itjust how they see fit
>>523851574>those yellow teethPoor hygiene is a reliable indicator of deeper mental issues. Irresponsible of Mom to place the blame for her daughters death squarely on the Internet when there was more she could’ve done at home to keep her daughter alive.
>>523852376OMG a kid getting a summer job and learning a work ethic is the same as cutting his dick off.
>>523852590Minors have rights. But that is because we recognize humans are 4 dimensional life that changes over time. Minors cannot consent and that is why their parents are guardians are responsible until they come of age. We recognize their rights because we recognize the fact that even though they cannot consent currently they will come of age and then be able to.
>>523852690childern don’t undergo surgeries until at least 16. your lying
>>523852376>look at these businesses breaking the lawreally helps your argument, tranny
>>523852590Abusing and grooming kids is not a right. Its not consent if you are manipulating them, scum.
>>523852768Hormone therapy has permeant effects and is only surgery by a different tool.
>>523852829wrong homrone therapy is reversible
>>523852768HRT chemically castrates them.........for life.
>>523852723But this is asinine in another way from how the scum you are debating is also asinine. Children can consent. They can say yes or no. But they can also be easily led on and manipulated. By both christian cultist scum and liberal scum.
I am lazy. Someone tell me what exactly would be banned. Lots of mundane medicine uses hormones.
> noooo now you have to wait til 18 to troon out
>>523852859The side effects are not.
>>523846733>ending the tranny menace for good>"YEH BUT WHAT ABOUT THE FILES I WONT BELIEVE UNLESS THEY CONTAIN INFORMATION ABOUT TRUMP?????????????????????????????????????????????"I want Reddit to go back.
>>523850627>Purging such ideas and “knowledge” out of existence so it’s erased from all public and private knowledgeWe have a first ammendement here chuddy, the cat's out of the bag too late
>>523846242So they can't get birth control until 18 now?
>>523846890Should the government ban menopause and death too?
>>523850710>7 years isn't long enough!!!! 2 more weeks!!!!
>>523853080>ending the tranny menace for goodThats not at all what this bill is going to do. Its going to prolong if anything. Conservatism 101. Constipated Liberalism.
>>523850814AGP has literally never been accepted by the medical community because dysphoria often predates puberty and thus any sexual fantasies which would be normal for a woman to have
explain american politics to me? won't new blue president just barge in and cancel all the red shit? and then vice versa?
>>523853197>swedish retard has an opinion vomit Stick do doing the only thing you retards are good at; wrecking video games.
>>523853323yes because trump has yet to codify anything he signed by fiat
>>523851457>How about you can decide to troon at the same age you can own a gun?There's no reason to put requirements on gun tho. We've already had century long periods where nine year old could buy machine guns and bring them to school. No problems. So there's no reason to limit guns in such a way.
>>523852768Am I supposed to breath a sigh of relief that the earliest your institutions will permit a child to undergo mutilation is 16 instead of 10 or 8?
>>523847930Well trump isn't going to be in office forever, so wait until after he's out and ban all jewish blood rituals. The fuck Donnie gonna do?
>>523849419>regret etcOne day, soon, our hands will no longer be tied. We shall make you regret the decisions you made, and your life shall be forfeit. We cannot allow your degeneracy to exist. Our world must be made pure, noble, and healthy. All transsexuals must perish, and no amount of torment or suffering will be deemed excessive, as we broadcast your deaths as a warning.
>>523853444ok would you be ok if their sperm was frozen, which makes the sterilization argument null.
>>523853360Explain how I am wrong or shut your neurotic ass up.
>>523852768>until at least 16So you are okay with fags grooming 16 year olds into making a decision that will affect them for the rest of their lives.When I was a child the though of cutting a dick off was not even a topic of conversation much less an actual act, where did these ideas come from......it's always the same answer.....
>>523853025What an odd thing to say......
>>523853602why do you keep calling them fags. are you gonna called 60% of all humans who have intersex conditions fags as well?
>>523853570Better ideaWe don’t touch or indoctrinate children and teenagers at all, you freak
>>523853765do you believe people aren’t born transgender? answer the question coward. you remind me of those bible thumpers who said being gay was a choice.
>>523853025>>523853677Is it? Step 2 is call lots of things sexual crimes. People are already doing that now. Don't play dumb.
>>523853731Yes, and anyone else who is a sexual deviant.
When they say “trans rights” is one of those “rights” an entitlement to brainwashing and mutilating children? Because it sure seems like troons consider harming children an inalienable right, integral to their identity
>>523853925
>>523853838You and bible thumpers should both be cast off to an Australia 2.0 where you can deserve each others company. On another planet. In another solar system.
>>523853914> sexual deviantthis isn’t the 1920s anymore gramps. bible proven fake. most people ate perfectly comfortable with gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people in society.
>>523853677>oddakshully...>be a toddler rapist>be recognized as a troon among troons
>>523853838No, people are not born transgender And don’t bother running over to bring back screenshots proving hermaphrodites exist, I’m well aware. They’re literal mutants and its been long established medical procedure to remove one the extraneous genitals while they’re still young because growing up with both male and female reproductive organs is harmful long term
>>523846242>I CAN’T MUTILATE MY BABY
>>523854012ANSWWR THE Question. is it a CHOICE? do uou believe people can’t be born with the brain of a female in a male body?
>>5238535801) You're Swedish.2) You're talking out of your Swigger ass.3) Ending tranny shit for kids is not "prolonging it" how are you this fucking retarded?4) Oh right. You're a Swigger.
>>523853842He is admitting transfags do sexual crimes against minors...We all know this to be true.....
>>523854067> No, people are not born transgenderAnd don’t bother running over to bring back screenshots proving hermaphrodites existthat is illegal under this bill btw
>>523853246>It can't be a sexual fetish if we groom a prepubescent childNo, loony troon. It is a sexual fetish. Trying to claim it's not because the victim of the fetish hasn't hit puberty is not an argument, it's an admission of guilt and intent.
>>523854067> people are not born transgenderexactly people CHOOSE being ga-i mean being transgender. you see this isn’t the same 2006 bible thumper shit from bush.
>>523854213My favorite thing about you disgusting freaks is that you equate quantifiable birth defects with being an insane retard.
>>523854213No its not and even if it was hermaphrodites are so rare that it doesn’t affect anoyone
>>523852859No it causes permeant effects on the human body. Especially when its in development.
>>523854303>>523854312ok so you admit humans aren’t perfect male or female beings created by god, but at same breath say transgenderism is a choice. which is it?
>>523853180>7 years isn't long enough!Mutilation last forever. So no 7 years of surveys from a less than 1% of the group.Even said survey results dismiss transition regret because it was less than 1% of their undersized sample set.
>>523854127No. They can’t. Because we all start out as females in the womb. Trying to make that into it proving biology somehow wants to upend and btfo itself is what makes you asinine and mentally ill.Above you just hate the female origin of life.
>>523852945Children are biologically built to follow and repeat before a certain age. Its why the government has never been allowed to remove the rights and responsibilities over the children from the parents without demonstrable proof of abuse.
>>523853125Shhhh one step at a time anon.
>>523854454so if we are all female in the women, all males are transgender
>>523853842>Step 2 is call lots of things sexual crimespilpulyou carefully omit to specify it's sexual crimes AGAINST CHILDRENwhich is both jewish and gay, ann frank
>>523847675You don't detransition from getting your cock cut off, idiot.
>>523847675>>523854666
>>523853246Fetish behavior can start before puberty without the sexual fantasy. AGP has never been accepted by the activist community because it describes them too accurately.
>>523846242I voted for this
>>523854500Thats the cynical abrahamic view on children. Not reality. You are as detrimental as liberal gender quack science also is to a society.
>>523854211>>523854659Somehow I feel like this exact same trick DOESN'T confuse you when it's people calling your group nazis and then saying kill all nazis. Then somehow you can see how that is a threat of violence without admitting you're a nazi.
>>523846242Total tranny death.
>>523853323Depends. There is the president but the senate and house (representatives from the states) must also support for the mechanisms to work. Judges decide what is legal and sometimes they even put the question directly to voters on the ballot. Its a giant battle and you need to take multiple points of power to get what you want. Not just the presidency though that has proven powerful lately.The founding father wanted it this way they basically distrusted government and tried to lock it in place making it fight itself thinking only the most important shit would pass. They also thought we would need to have another revolution and clear everyone out of power about 100 years after the founding.
>>523854425Transgenderism isn't real, retard. You're insane if you look down at your dick and go, >i Am a WoMaN
>>523854637No, you one dimensional midwit. Biology and not your gender quack science chooses in the womb to either add male hormones or keep it female. Thats a natural process. Unlike your mental illness.
>>523853570No it doesn't. That still created huge irreversible effects on the lift of that child.
>>523846897>also circumcision and operations on intersex children also seem to fall out of what you consider bannablenobody is banning circumcision retard, its not exclusive to christians. everyone hates boys
>>523854813if a faggot calls me a nazi, that means he's at least a communist and a degenerateand I don't care that he wants to get violent against mebecause whatever crosses their mind, it's still nothing, compared to what I for one think they fucking deserve
>>523853521Shhhh wait until its time anon. Both parties are getting freed of the kosher effect just wait until its time. Trump is currently just fighting against the innevitable.
>>523854933its literally real retard. a trans women can have a penis in the same way a man can be castrated. once you start taking HRT, your entire biochemical system of your body changes to be female
>>523854978>its not real>but its a mental illness DOUBLE THINK
>>523855118Arbitrarily man-made. Not natural.
>>523854806No. Its an honest view on children. Before puberty they learn by route even in school. Even when they learn math and language. They cannot consent and this is why their parents are in charge to bring them of age.
>>523855118>biochemical system of your body changes to be femaleNo it doesnt. Males produce small gametes (sperm) female produce large gametes (eggs). HRT only causes some changes. It does not turn male to female or visa versa.
