Why didn't S-400 save Russia?
>>523848849what do you mean?it intercepted a projectiletake that hohol
>>523848849>why didnt [x] wunderwaffen save ukraineFTFY troon.
>>523848849Muuuuh RussiaaaaaaaaKiilllllYourseeeeeeelfFaggooooooootWaaaa waaaa waaa muh r-russiaKek
>>523848849Grok, make up a Han Chinese rap about rolling down the road in my S400
>>523848849but russia won?
>>523848849We paid $2.5 billion for this shit. FML.
>>523849057someone forgot to inform this pidor that he already won
>>523849150such harsh words sisterbake r/uhg insttead
>>523849150no amount of cope can change the fact that russia is regularly bombing ukrainians with jets, while ukraine has not had an air force since 2022. s400 works, patriot and other western AD is hot garbage.
>>523849677> while ukraine has not had an air force since 2022.Someone should inform Russian missiles and drones getting shot down that they are getting hit by non-existent planes and Russian getting dropped non-existent glide bombs by non-existent planes> s400 works, patriot and other western AD is hot garbage.Like a good target practice for drone ahahaha
>>523848849Excluding the operative mistake that you can see on the vid, the S systems and the western alternatives like the Patriot are extremely cost ineffective in modern combat, though they create enough of a threat that prohibits the enemy from flying too deep in the friendly territory and against threats like cruise missiles and maybe ICBMs if they ever start flyingBoth sides need to develop and more widely implement anti drone combat which actually shoots down the drones and not use frequency interference weapons that can't do jack shit
>>523851030>shooting $20k drones with $500k missiles>we're winning!why don't you go back to ukraine anon? they need people like you!
>>523848849Why aren't you on the frontlines, Mykola?>>523851206Pantsir systems are doing a lot of anti-drone work.Newest ones even ditched the cannon in favour of more missiles.
>>523851302>shooting down $10k drone with $40 million S-400 launcherWE'RE WINNING!!!
this thread did not save the ukranny and furthermore it has not prevented the ukranny's exclusively jewish government from kidnapping more goyim and sending them to die only to lose more territory anyway. why did you abandon your family to this fate, tapac? why didnt you take them with you?
>>523848930lel
>>523851030Tell us more about the ukrainian glide bombs, faggot shill
>>523848849S-400 is a piece of shit. It can't see or track F-35s, F-22s, or the B-21
>>523848930>germans have some zence of humorclown timeline
>>523849150Man if it wasn't because ziggers aren't human and don't deserve human compassion this would be sad as fuck.
>>523848849Test
>>523853742>flagtry again
>>523849677Say what you want about cope, but the undeniable truth is Russia, the worlds "2nd" greatest army is unable to beat an army that it borders.Its not even laughable, its just straight up pathetic. And on top of all of that, Sweden and Finland joined NATO making the border even longer.Embarrassing
>>523849150>american posters supported this atrocious warFucking hell. And you guys have the balls to put the blame on the jews.
>>523849150Patton slapping a soldier was a national scandal.
>>523849099No refundst. Putin
>>523855153this is a really bad take. russia is effectively fighting against NATO and still winning decisively. ukraine has literally received nearly a trillion in aid and support, its armies are commanded by US generals, they have access to every bit of NATO ISR and so on. how long would have they lasted without NATO support? two weeks?
>>523852172what do you want to know about them?
>>523855552It's not a bad take and you are wrong. Russia cannot beat Ukraine which is right next to it. Sweden and Finland are now in NATO, Putin has failed on everything and that is why he results to tough talks. He will continue to talk shit and push Europe into rearming and then his additional legacy will be the man who failed to take Ukraine and drove Russia to become weaker than the UK and France and probably Poland. He has pushed Russia back to the 1600s, not even a regional power in their region.Not a great job
>>523855552>ukraine has literally received nearly a trillion in aid and support,one quadrillion*
>>523855980what do you mean? again, russia is already fighting against NATO and winning decisively. putin has managed to stop russia being encroached by NATO, and by the time this war is over, NATO will likely cease to exist. as a reminder, NATO overall has an economy several orders of magnitude larger than russia. they are, by far, the underdog, and they are still winning. how can this be interpreted as anything other than a total victory?i don't think you are living in reality.
>>523855484lmao
>>523848849It was actually a S-600
>>523856398Since 2022 EU provided total 200 billion in support, total. In 2025 on military alone(not counting internal security and forced loans to MIC from banks) Russia spent 150 billions
>>523856398Sorry, you are just plain wrong. Russia is not winning decisively and that is what is the embarrassment. They SHOULD be winning decisively but they simply are not. The front lines have barely moved in 2 years, that is not winning, it simply isn't. Russia just isnt winning, if it was winning it wouldnt need America to try and broker a peace, they would just win and end the war.
>>523848849Meant for a for a different type of conflict really. I don't think anyone foresaw the rapid rise of 3d printed drones
>>523856756so? the EU is so irrelevant that even in the peace deal proposals they are left with a bill, while the US receives the profits of the reconstruction. plus, this war started in 2014, not in 2022. NATO has been training and arming ukraine since then. and how much is worth all the ISR provided by NATO? most of the actual support they receive is not through direct handouts, it's from direct involvement of the NATO militaries in the war, budgeted as part of their normal military expenditure.
>>523857506>The front lines have barely moved in 2 years, that is not winning, it simply isn't.if the war ended with the current borders, ukraine would lose 20% of its territory, and it would be a massive victory for russia. ukraine needs to regain its territory even just to end with a neutral result, and we know that's never going to happen. chances are, this war will end with odessa in russia's control, and ukraine completely cut out from the black sea. your expectations for this war are simply not aligned with the reality, you need to regain your perpective.
>>523857753Russia is collapsing so all hohols have to do is hodl on for dear life and they will just win it all back in the end
>>523857753But its not going to end now with the current borders, you know this and i dont understand why you are trying to argue otherwise. The war isnt stopping because Russia CANNOT defeat Ukraine. Look i have been rather polite to you, i was assuming you were a brainwashed zigger hiding in europe to avoid the draft.Now i suspect you might be one of those Russia loving subhuman shitskins, i would really like to think you are not a disgusting jeet or beaner because then i would feel bad about having wasted my time and energy interacting with one. If you are a brown, please dont reply to me
>>523858315the US is making peace proposals now that involve giving even more territory to russia than they control now, and you think this is going to end with ukraine recovering their territory? how delusional are you? whatever you are having, i want some, it's some strong stuff.
>>523857753>if the war ended with the current borders, ukraine would lose 20% of its territory, and it would be a massive victory for russia.So half a trillion spent on war, economy sliding into depression, hundreds thousands of dead and wounded, massive army that needs to be disbanded to keep spending in check, full of PTSD, HIV, alcoholism, trained for fight and no job prospects for not a single goal of war achieve is MASSIVE VICTORY?
>>523859423the goal of russia was to stop NATO expansion. the goal of NATO, very transparently so, was to make russia collapse, split it and loot it. instead, this war will end with the US retreating to the western hemisphere and the disbandment of NATO. i would say that's a pretty resounding victory for russia.
>>523859981Sohalf a trillion spent on war, economy sliding into depression, hundreds thousands of dead and wounded, massive army that needs to be disbanded to keep spending in check, full of PTSD, HIV, alcoholism, trained for fight and no job prospects AND NATO increased both military spending and expanded by two countries
>>523860044half of what you are writing there is not true and it's not even worth going into it, it's just pure cope. two minor countries joining NATO does not outweigh the fact that the only country in NATO that actually matters is planning to abandon it, which will effectively mean the disbandment of NATO.
>>523860318>half of what you are writing there is not truewhich part? I guess Russia spent MORE than half a trillion>the only country in NATO that actually matters is planning to abandon itTrump will whine and cry and throw a hissy fit and not going to do shit,then he will be replaced and USA will stay in nato
>>523848849Russia lost an S400?I thought the brave hyhyl took them all out already.
>>523860318>the fact that the only country in NATO that actually matters is planning to abandon it,Trump is a cuck who hates making a decision that he can't immediately reverse. This is his modus operandi for his entire life. If he does something he always tries to keep the door open to walk it back. Leaving NATO is far too big a decision for him to make for this reason.Russia had terrible demographics even before the war and now it has lost over a million young men and is importing millions of Indians to make up the labor shortage. Combine that with a huge amount of young Russians leaving the country (a problem even before the war) and you have a country that is doomed over the next few decades. This is Putin's fault for ruining it.Putin is only interested in his legacy, if he can't take Ukraine then he'd like to keep this war going for the rest of his life so he can die while it's not finished and then the outcome will fall on whoever succeeds him.
>>523860044You also forgot...> Out of ammo on day one. > Missiles have to run on washing machine chips due to the lack of high end stuff. Could you at lewdt use a more convinving VPN.
>>523849150softer than bootcamp post ww2 pre gulf
>>523848849Nationalists control our country. They can't in science. They can only ban games, books, anime, movies. That's all.
>>523863745>labor shortageThere's no labor shortage. Nationalists hate poor russians. That's why they're replacing us. >Real russians only a rich or middle class. Not a poor ones.You can be literally turned in slave if you're poor here and trust people.
Local shop fired most of ethnic russian workers and hired Indians. Nationalists support it. But if you dare to write fantasy book abd publish it in shops, you can be arrested. Even fantasy books that was allowed in ussr (!), now are getting banned. Because nationalists (rights, orthodox), hate books and all media.They banned anime (!), manga, movies, now even soviet books getting banned. But we have new church each day! Oh, and if you upload (seed through torrent) banned media, you can be fined. We're poor. We can't afford fines. Most of websites no longer works without v...
>>523865085>There's no labor shortage.Not my words, the words of the Kremlin.
>>523849677Haven’t followed this war in a few months but until mid-2025 they were regularly releasing footage of Ukrainian Mig-29s conducting strikes with AASM Hammers.
>>523863771I like how not a single zigger can disprove my point so they have to make up some other point to fight against
