Why don't free market mechanisms correct this? Could it be that capitalism doesn't work after all and the whole thing is a scam?
With communism you wouldn't even have computers.
>>523859520They are all in the AI data centers now.You got what you voted for.
>>523859520The price increase is the free market correction
>>523859608which is why there’s tons of it in stock at every store i see right?good try schlomo.
its working as intended, retard. you're a worker bee, ofcourse you get priced out of computers. its a miracle they even let you have one in the first place
>>523859520We need TKD yesterday, this whole AI scam is going to destroy the world after the bubble pops.
>>523859520>Why don't free market mechanisms correct this?Because it takes years to build a fab to produce more you idiot.
>>523859731if biden had won we would have more fans already
>something you have to buy once every ten years (maybe) is expensivei don't careit doesn't affect mekill all tech ceos regardless it would probably do a lot of good
>>523859520dont buyspeak with your wallet and watch
Affordability is a hoax. It was just a dream.
That's what happens when you close all your RAM mines for the environment while China is digging RAM out of the ground at record speed.
>>523859520Seriously get used to it, OpenAI bought 40% of the worlds production of wafers that were to be used for memory production until the end of 2026 so you wont be seeing a drop in prices to at least mid 2027 now.
>>523859725>reddit spacing>ai is a scamyou tried kike
>>523859520Be glad that the war is technical.War is the greatest aid to innovation.
>>523859907>get used to it,the boomerism that gets everyone killed. do not listen to this canary.
How often are you cocksuckers making new builds?
>>523859520>Literally days before RAM prices shot up, I bought 64GB of RAM for my new PCI'm sorry guys, it was my fault.
>>523859640>Walk into Best Buy over the weekend>Shit ton of extremely expensive, highly priced RAM just sitting thereI genuinely don't understand how they're even allowed to do this. The demand is so fucking manufactured. I'm talking 64 gigs of RAM costing 900 dollars. That's more than the fucking GPU I bought cost.
>>523859520The AI bubble will burst don't worry.You can simply not consoom when you're getting fleeced. Just like you can choose not to use Windows 11 btw.
>>523860322i mean it would be anti semitic to not allow this.gods chosen can always charge whatever prices they want.
>>523859520Average IQ answers:>what now lolbertarians? capitalism doesn't work! it's rigged!>we live in the matrix bro, money is fake bro>the price increase is the correction bro, this is intended, hahaSerious answer:The way market mechanisms correct this is to produce more memory, as it's something that could clearly be profitable while selling at much lower prices. It is now a clear business opportunity to produce memory. However, that needs time because there need to be new factories for that. Maybe people think it's a temporary thing and aren't even going to do anything about it, but if it's permanent, then that's probably what will happen, and what already happens all the time when demand for things increases.
>>523859520According the Grok 64 MB of RAM in 1995 would cost $2000. Now you can get 64 GB of DDR4 RAM for $750So what are you complaining about?
Look you can get 128 MB of RAM for $35. What, you need more?
>>523860322Top of the line consumer components have always been pricey. When the Gateway 1500 dropped in the 2000s it boasted a "whopping" 128 MB of RAM and a "colossal" 16 GB platter hard drive, and the system cost upwards of $4K. Now 25 years later people are bitching that a top of the line desktop with 128 GB of RAM and a 16 TB NVMe SSD hard drive costs about the same.A thousand-fold increase in memory and storage over a single generation, and everyone just whinges that it's still expensive.
>>523860322Ever since Covid this is the new way of pricing. Everything is a shortage everything is a panic-buy psuedo-auction.Companies learned that retards would happily pay hundreds of dollars for worthless and plentiful toilet paper just because the media created an artificial panic and now that is how everything is sold. The covid experiment is going to continue to fuck us for decades.Modern consoomers are just really stupid and brainwashed to the point corps have them by the balls.Contrary to all the people crying about being poor, reality is that consoomers have massive amount of excess wealth or this wouldn't be happening, everybody is rich. Normalfags don't bat an eye over dropping $50 for dinner or a few thousand over a weekend. We have 2K GPUs but every nearly every normalfag kid still manages to get their hands on one to the point stocking is the only thing actually holding them back, meanwhile people are ravenous to throw piles of money away no matter how expensive it is.
>>523859594Transistors and chips and the Internet were both invented through massive government funding. The former from Fairchild, AT&T Bell Labs, and other heavily government funded and partial government labs, and the latter through DARPA which was directly government. Solar cells were also invented at MaBell.Nuclear energy was also a government development. Most massive breakthroughs are funded at least in part by government through the NSF, DOD, DOE, and other such things. Sandia Labs, LANL, the list goes on.Capitalism only works when it is state-controlled and allocated to align with governmental and societal objectives. The "golden age" of technological development from around 1850 until 1980 in the USA was essentially government-run, just like as China is currently doing. American boomers were too retarded to realize this, and the old crusty fucks still alive fail to realize that "muh capitalism" that worked was tightly controlled. Laissez-faire and/or lightly-restricted capitalism leads to complete oppression of The People and a slave/serf society, which is true tyranny, and which we are experiencing right now.
>>523859594The Soviets had computers but they were rare and they were shit.Depending on how liberal you are with your definition of communism you could argue you'd have better computers because China is almost on par with the west and will soon surpass us and their computer parts are way cheaperChina is of course a lot closer to national socialism than communist, they are certainly not Stalinist or Marxist-Leninist.
>>523859520Because correct doesnt mean "what I prefer" and actually what you are seeing IS market force corrections. All the new data centers going up are creating massive demand for RAM which is driving up the price to the correct level based on those market forces.
>>523859907When DDR6 comes out and we have TB sticks of RAM all this DDR5 will go on sale. It might be painful now, but this is exactly what the industry needed to push innovation. In 2028, anons will be complaining about the price of 1 TB kits of DDR6, while you can get a perfectly good kit of 128 GB for $400.
>>523861667>AND I HAD TO WALK UPHILL BOTH WAYS TO SCHOOL AND IT WAS NEGATIVE 100 AND MY FEET HURT WHERES MY WIFE
>>523861661128 MB should actually be enough for most people, 4 GB should be enough for 99% of people. Sadly as computers get better optimization gets worse just as quickly, if not quicker.
>>523859594>communism is when no computerThe invention of the internet, HTTP, web browsers, and microchips were all done at military, universities, and research institutions like CERN, NOT private for-profit corporations.
>>523861915The US would be in a terrific position to capitalize on the demand with all the new fabs being planned in the US...... or it would if DOGE hadn't spent the summer axing federal support for research and putting a shit ton of institutions that actually had programs in plasma processing and nanofabrication into a financial hole.
>>523861362Maybe he's complaining about the fucking graph in the OP.Would you be ok with fresh, ripe bananas suddenly rising to 2000 USD/pound because they were even more expensive (inflation adjusted) 300 years ago outside of the tropics and subtropics?
>>523859520>Could it be that capitalism doesn't work after all and the whole thing is a scam?>1pbtid
>>523861965>nice things were expensive 25 years ago>nice things are still expensive today, but they're also nicer>NOOOOOOOOO!!! THAT'S NOT FAAAAIIIRRR!!zoomies are fucking hopeless
Just make your own RAM.
>>523859520>Why don't free market mechanisms correct this?Because our current iteration of the market isn't interested in providing services or products, it's interested in finding infinite money glitches. Everyone wants everything they want instantly, perfectly, and forever, and that includes the retarded CEOs/CFOs ramming multi-billion-dollar multinational corporations into the dirt over LLMs.>Could it be that capitalism doesn't work after all and the whole thing is a scam?No. Try not trading anything for a profit ever and see how far that takes you. Even fucking North Korea practices (black market) capitalism. If you want your nation to have a say in its own fate, you need resources and ways to move them for capital. This has been the prime motivator for national growth for the past 500 years proper. It's just that, once again, this "free market" leaves the retards bullriding the funds to steer the ship wherever they so choose, and they keep choosing the rocks because that's where the sirens are. Regulation only ever happens post-fuckup. Strap in.
>>523859777>something that you needed to type your retarded post has gone up 150% in 3 months>yeah but how does this effect me?Fucking retard doesn't know that his iPhone 81 Supreme XLS has ram in it
>>523859520Yes, free market can not make products suddenly appear. It takes years to build more RAM factories.The problem is the sudden spike in demand because of the AI bubble, bubbles favored by the not-so-free-market central banking system!The situation would be the same in a socialist country if the Politburo suddenly decided to bet the farm on AI and build dozens of AI datacenters.Ask your grand-father how easy it was to buy a car in a not-free-at-all-market, you dumb Hun.
>>523862309You could actually do this in the 80s.
>>523861661Holy shit how old is this stock? Is this from 2006?
why do you careare you buying more ram every fortnight or somethingif the price is too high, just wait for it to go down
>>523861915It does mean "what I prefer". People prefer eating over starving. If the way the free market works was not relative to what people prefer, then it'd make no sense to say it works.>>523861758Let's say that's true for the sake of the argument. Most inventions are actually from individual people, but still.Government funded research came up with nuclear power and advancements on computers, so what. If the economy was controlled by bureaucrats, people wouldn't have a computer at home. The government would never have any reason to mass produce them. Or to make electricity available in people's homes. Governments come up with science or inventions for their purposes, pass laws on what to do with them, follow procedures, and that's it, they don't care if things could be done more efficiently, don't face any market competition, and don't have to produce based on people's demand. And the more capitalism is tightly controlled, the more similar to a centralized economy it becomes. Like how housing is expensive due to zoning laws.
>>523859520> free market> free corruption> free colluding you got what you wish for
>>523859520Free markets aren't intended to maintain price stability, they maintain supply stability. Price goes up to ensure demand doesn't outpace supply resulting in shortages. That's why price gouging is a thing when goods are scarce in free markets. That's also why capitalist economies always have bread on store shelves, while communist countries have bread lines and weekly bread quotas.
>>523861777Russians had trinary and tetris.Concession Accepted
>>523861996And without capitalism it would stay in those institutions because there is no incentive to bring it to the masses.
>>523861667>A thousand-fold increase in memory and storage over a single generation, and everyone just whinges that it's still expensive.Because they weren't expecting to go backwards.Over the course of a month we went back 10 years.My shitty 2012 laptop is now suddenly back to midrange in terms of specs and price.Would be a great time to own a computer shop that was closed for a couple weeks and realize all your inventory is now worth 5 times what it was before.Wouldn't be surprised if in 2 years people are going to be back to 20GB hard drives and 1G RAM. Then corps will tell you do do all your work and processing remotely through datacenters and pay for it a service.I already bought my shit in the last couple years because I somewhat expected this sort of thing but now I have to piss my pants over it breaking since it's now like some irreplaceable lost technology.
>>523862567>price is too high, just wait for it to go downThat's what I said 10 years ago about buying a house.
>>523860022>outing yourself as a newfag by using the term reddit spacingthank you for making it obvious for all of us that we should disregard posts with your ID
>>523859520Go start your own ram company
>>523861758>one out of 100 government investments paid off, therefore government investment is good!>let's pretend that energy sector isn't heavily regulated and taxed and that's why government needs to invest in it in the first place!>let's list all these private companies which wouldn't have been founded if not for free market and then thank government for crowding out private investment!Nigger
>>523862582It doesnt mean that though. Sorry youre a retard who doesnt know what words mean.
>>523861996Capitalism means that you are free to make your own lemonade company and, if the current offer is terrible, then you will have a huge success and earn a lot of money, allowing you to make new smart investments for the greater good.With communism, you are forced to drink the State-approved piss or you will be branded an enemy of the People.
>>523859520everything is a scam. in a society where money is god this inevitably becomes the dominant form of doing business
>>523862567It's not going to go down sweatie. The jews err sorry I mean the Federal Reserve prints infinite $ out of thin air and then gives it to the jews err sorry I mean tech bros who brag about buying so much hardware they don't have the electricity to run it all. Micron isn't going to sell RAM to the private sector anymore because why would they bother with people who might or might not buy it when there's a free money glitch?
>>523859520Stupid governments print trillions of dollars during covid and 2008, that money landed in VCs (venture capitalist), VCs gave trillions to shitty tech companies that don't make any real money like OpenAI, OpenAI buys 40% of all RAM to stop their competitors because their best people left and their product has turned to shit, now we can't buy RAM.This is not capitalism's fault. You retards need to stop voting for garbage politicians that solve problems by printing money.
>>523860322>I need 128 gigs of DDR10!no you don't, and the people who do deduct it from their taxes
>>523862925It is literally illegal to sell things on the street or start your own businessIf I just set up a stand somewhere and started selling things, the government would send police to commit state violence against me.
>>523859520Scam Artman did this
>>523859520Because there is no free market you dumb nigger.
>>523859520This IS the free market, idiot. Have you ever heard about "Supply and Demand"?
>>523862686Did you know production can be increased you fucking idiot? Otherwise what's the point of the free market if prices are just going to go through the roof to "balance"?The population now is much higher than a century ago, yet we can still afford food. Shouldn't the free market, according to you, have increased food prices massively to "balance" demand with the same supply?>>523862915It's okay bro, I'll figure out what words mean one day.Kek what an autist.When people say the free market is better than socialism, it does mean according to what people want. Otherwise it'd be meaningless to say that it works.Communism also works: The government sets laws, procedures and quotas on production, and they are certainly enforced and obeyed. It works! Sure, people suffer, but working doesn't mean "what I prefer".
>>523859520We would have to get everyone to stop using AI completely, and there are very few people that don't use it at least some of the time. All those small queries add up to a significant demand. Therefore we get no gaming computers for the foreseeable future. Better invest in GameStop now...
>>523859618It's the market reaction to a strawfire of vaporware startups with no sustainable business model. Trillions of dollars are being misallocated right now and it's only a matter of time before the investors realize they're unrecoverable and the entire bubble comes crashing down again. Free market systems are insanely wasteful and inefficient.
>>523859520Why can't they just make more?
>>523863235>gaming computersHow old are you? 10?
>>523859826>Speak with your watchNo.
>>523863102I've been very small time selling things using paypal for years. Those niggers demand I get a business license to get my $ out. My fault people warned me about paypal for years and years.
>>523859520>Why don't free market mechanisms correct this?it will. But it takes time. It doesn't happen over night.
>>523863124Samsung, Micron, and SK-Hynix did this by intentionally cutting production earlier this year to avoid "over supply" and low prices.They certainly got their wish, shareholders are very happy, still now they're cautious about returning to full production because of "over supply".>>523863210There is only 3 companies on Earth who make advanced DRAM and none of them are "competing" with each other.
>>523863226You are an idiot. The market forces are working fine. Demand goes up, price goes up. It's common sense. >why number no go down even though I want number go down??>market forces are broken!>muh socialism!
>>523859520>muh free marketAdam Smith even pointed out that when industrialists get together they conspire to control the market. Modern studies prove that when a market has fewer than 6 competitors prices stop going down. A "free market" without anti-trust laws is a bad thing, it leads to monopolisation and rent-seeking.There is no free-market, that's why patent laws and business regulations exist and "Capitalism" is simply a construct of Marx used to describe the current exconomic system of his time. There is no formalised system of "capitalism". Formalised systems of communism on the other hand have always sucked massive dick and been left behind. If you're still arguing about communism vs capitalism you're about 100 years late. The world has been moderately socialist since 1945. The current problems in the worlds economy stem from the fact that anti-trust laws have not been enforced because of lobbying and tariffs have not been used against subsidising nations because of lobbying.In the UK the King had all the power, until magna carta gave power to the Lords because they had all the money. Then the colonists assumed the power, because they had the money. Then the industrialists had the power because they had the money. Now the globalist and financiers have the power, because they have all the money. Money begets power, and creating value for people creates money. The problem with the economy is that globalisation and finance are no longer creating value for people. Communism won't fix it. Modern technology will, just as it has for thousands of years under the system of "capitalism". The socialist governments can only fund their welfare from taxation of companies (and employees) who create value for others with their products. The highest profits come from new technologies, therefore all governments depends on new technology to maintain their systems. The EU lags both America and Asia in technology and surpasses them in welfare. It will break.
>>523861667because for years tech advanced while prices started to come down to affordable levels, now tech is stagnating and ballooning in price for multiple components.
>>523861990You’re retarded lol
>This same memory would have cost 10x as much 20 years ago>You don't actually NEED any of this stuffBunch of AI company bootleggers in this thread.
>>523859520Turns out with "Supply and demand" the Supply people have more money to make powerful Demands. So it's more like you don't matter at all.
>>523859520people are waking up to capitalism not working for their precious gaming computers and not healthcare LMAO
>>523863401You're just too stupid to even begin to understand what I'm saying.This is what I like about the internet. In real life I can't go around telling most people complicated things that they don't understand, because I would be extremely unpopular. On the internet I can, and not only do I not care that you don't like me because I say complicated things, I can even tell you how stupid you are, all with no repercussions. KekPrice goes up because demand goes up, yes, but the increase in price also drives up demand because it is an incentive to produce ram as it should be very profitable now. The increase in price is only the immediate reaction, the real correction comes when more of it is produce. Otherwise the whole system would be useless.
>>523863531What do people do with their computers that they were unable to do when 4 GB was the norm?
>>523863581what a normie retard
>>523863612>not healthcare LMAOHave you tried not being a fat nigger or boomer?
>>523863696im pretty sure the people complaining about ram prices are gamers, so for them it actually matters
>>523863102Yes, there are some regulations on starting a business, what's your point?If you try to set up a DDR5 RAM factory, you'll have much bigger problems than setting up a legal company and following some rules (that your competitors also suffer from anyway).
Tariffs interfere, as well as AI subsidies
>>523863553This site is majority bots and jeets who love AI and will defend it to their death
>>523859520what the fuck are you even talking about, it hasn't even been two months since RAM prices spiked
>>523862174communism is not going to fix this problem instantly
>>523863941Even though AI is retarded.
>>523863800It matters to everyone now, have you tried opening a couple of tabs with Chrome and looked at the RAM usage?Now the experience might be worse than it was 10 years ago, but he RAM usage isn't.
>>523859520government involved is the only thing that makes it possible without it the ai bubble will burst
Should I buy ram now?
>>523864116Rich people and jeets are retarded. They all got gaslighted into believing that AI was true and genuine artificial intelligence, i.e. sentient life that they could control and manipulate, and it's blowing up in their faces extremely hard. This shit is an even bigger waste of money than the Metaverse was.>>523864119You do anything in Windows now and your CPU temp jumps up 20 degrees.>>523864278Fuck no. Just wait for the prices to go back down like they always do. Back in 2020 it was GPUs and crypto, and now it's RAM and AI. These things come in waves.
>>523864333Crypto is useless though, AI actually has uses
>>523864278You have two options:1. Buy RAM now and regret it when the prices come crashing down.2. Don't buy RAM now and regret it when the prices don't come crashing down.Your choice.
>>523859826fuck that I am rich and will buy what I want.. it's fun seeing the little people screech about anything that goes up in price whether it's eggs, RAM, houses or whatever. Hey we all can't win some have to suffer but that's how it should be.
>>523859520Well you see anon, that's because a TRUE free market has never been tried before.Donate me your paycheck and we can start building a REAL free market for the first time in history! It will work this time, pinky promise!
>>523864383crypto is good for tax evasion.
>>523864383AI is a toy that bored people play with and nothing more. The actual case uses of it being used properly, i.e. as a tool to assist, are extremely minor, and it's most used by jeets to skirt having to actually learn anything
>>523859520>markets mean markets don't work
>>523864629ai is being used for automated science.you’re a kike
>>523864734what the fuck are you talking about kek
>>523864333I'm not even against AI, it has it's place. But the magic 8 ball LLMs are a waste of everyones time. Chatbots have existed forever. What AI should be used for is data analysis. This is something AI can be useful for, but only people who know what they are doing actually use it that way. Ask an LLM AI to give you a statistical analysis will result in the LLM just making shit up. To properly use AI you'd have to train it on specific data pertaining to what you want to use it for.
>>523859520>goyim cattle can't afford the latest techslopHow will they cope without the latest digital distractions?
>>523864629Tons of people use it for coding, AI videos are massively popular, I use it everyday with perplexity to search stuff, Twitter replies are full of "@grok is this true", etc.AI isn't going away any time soon and has an actual use, no one has really found a use for the blockchain and crypto besides rugpulling others
>>523864629AI is for porn.
>>523864278Depends. Can you last 5 years with the current amount you have? If yes, it's a very obvious no. The prices will come down eventually. This is a kind of temporary thing because AI tech creates enough RAM demand so they can move past DDR altogether.If you can't survive 5 years, then it's more tricky.
>why don't free market mechanisms fix thisbecause it started a week ago, anon. Chill the fuck out. I simply don't think people are lining up at microcenter to pay $1000 for a fucking pcie ssd. These people are going to eat shit, and have to cut prices.
>>523864812Even GOTY winning gaming studios use AI
>>523864734It's not AI, Rasheed. All it is is an LLM. A large language model and nothing more. A glorified search engine.>>523864812>Tons of people use it for codingJeets? Yeah, no shit. Why do you think so much shit is broken now?You're kidding yourself if you honestly believe this shit is going to last. If anything it'll receive a rebranding and then be forgotten about.
>>523859520Did some research this isn't the first time RAM prices spiked.They spiked in 2000 because of the DDR cartel. It also spiked in 1988 because of a shortage.
>>523859520A couple months ago I saw this coming. I bought TONS of ram. I’m now selling them on eBay for over 3x the price now. Making bank right now!
>>523864983>Jeets? Yeah, no shit. Everyone does, I get my AI news from a White programmer>Why do you think so much shit is broken now?Because of Indians, not AI>You're kidding yourself if you honestly believe this shit is going to lastYou think being able to generate entire working websites and codebases in a few minutes is just a fad? This is the worst it will ever be and will only continue to get better and better
>>523865078its spiking now because of jews
>>523859520I have 2x32GB DDR4 @ 4000 mhz spare if anyone wants it, just come over and tongue my anus for a few hours.
>>523859520Trump is building chip fabs in the US.
>>523859520mainland chinese have domestic RAM market.just order from aliexpress, chud.
>>523865078Yes but for some reason the spiking back then (I was around for it) didn't feel as bad, because at least RAM that was being manufactured was going into normal businesses and consumers.Anything that goes into these demonic AI datacenters is pure evil. I am not a religious man, but this type of shit makes me believe in unadulterated Evil as a concept. Ted has been vindicated for all eternity. Trump should have pardoned him and listened to him instead of demons like Scam Altman.
>>523865267Yeah, same jews involved in price fixing in the early 2000s.
>>523864812I have bad news for you, it makes things up half the time. If you use it to search stuff then you're fed lies half the time.The "grok is this true" are pants shitting retards.It's kinda useless for coding. It can help sometimes but it's nothing compared to stack overflow and regular auto complete. If you start typing a couple words and it automatically suggests the full variable name, you can write code very fast. AI making you code based on a description is then kind of redundant.The AI videos are slop nobody intentionally looks at or is interested in. It's just in the way when you're trying to find something that actual people made. Most people hate it.The other day there was this video on twitter from the CEO of nvidia who said the internet will change, and instead of storing content and then retrieving it, it will all be generated on the spot by AI. Sure bro, no reason to retrieve a message someone sent me, AI can just guess what they must've said. AI can also "generate" my friends social media photos I guess. Jfl this idiot has no idea why people even use the internet.Even for gooning, I want to look at actual women whom I know would be disgusted by me masturbating to their pics, not some soulless AI pic.
>>523865234Tick tock.
>>523859520Bait. AI demand is driving the prices up which is exactly how the market mechanism works. Once that demand pops and dissipates the prices will return to normal.
>>523865361whats demonic about ai?
>>523865399why does every store have tons of ram in stock then?
>>523861915I think we both know he means a return to affordable prices and the free market correction in this case would be competition offering product below their price points and staying below them
>>523864734We already had that decades ago with SETI@home and now then BOINC which leveraged people's computers. This is the opposite of that my brown friend.Why does Grape Moot hate semi circles so much?
>>523865361I plotted out average price per MB and the spike in the 80s was the most pronounced, but this current one is similar to the spike in the early 2000s in magnitude. Point is, it's a false shortage. They could produce more, they just don't want to, and I hope the EU goes after them like they did last time. I know this jewish US government never would.
>>523865379Then there's the lighting models that movie studios are going to use either way.Video models need way too much computing power if you're going to train a model to make clips longer than a few seconds. Unless they figure out how to 100x RAM efficiency, in which case I'll eat my words.
>>523861996>picthe problem of capitalism it's the peopleit's a system built around the idea that people will know what's best for themthe reality that makes the whole idea collapse is that most people are mindless npcs that will accept any shit as long as schlomo pays enough for advertisement, hence the continuos enshittification of everything, with companies racing to jew shekels out of people more efficiently
>>523864981I always find this argument retarded. Monet and Rembrandt's descendants should sue every art school in existence for stealing their Daddy's art style.
>free market>for the people on top of it>not for you, you pay until you die, you don’t have a BUSINESS LICENSE
>>523865406Do you know how a ouiji board works?
>>523865581Read my post again.
>>523863226>production can be increasedThen why don't communist countries like cuba just turn up the production dial instead of imposing quotas on everything from bread to internet time? There is not infinite everything. You think there's infinite production capacity because you live in a capitalist economy with incredible abundance that you take for granted.
>>523865383Damn, so you're telling me all AI output is just Indians? How do Indians type so fast?>>523865379AI has already reached the point where's it's more correct than wrong>It's kinda useless for codingLmao. Theres no need to go to stack overflow all the time when it can do it for you
>>523865379>Even for gooning, I want to look at actual women whom I know would be disgusted by me masturbating to their pics, not some soulless AI pic.Porn sites already have AI filters because of the sheer amount of garbage that got flooded in them. AI will never get rid of its association with slop because its simply too easy to make huge volumes of slop with it. Bootleggers have always created slop, now they have a tool that allows them to create that slop in record speed. So they are going to use it. Websites that won't have AI filters will eventually drown in slop and become major pain in the ass to navigate.
>>523865889>AI has already reached the point where's it's more correct than wronglmao no it hasn't. Companies are just waking up to the fact that new LLMs are ironically even more wrong than the older ones.
>>523865889>AI has already reached the point where's it's more correct than wrongAbsolutely not even remotely close to being true. All this "AI" shit does is read off and compile Reddit posts.
>>523866035Except it has, look at the benchmark. A score of 0 means it gets as many questions correct as it does wrong, a negative score means it gets more questions wrong than correct, a positive score means it gets more questions correct than wrong
>>523866127I wish you were AI because at least AI can read images
>>523865889>AI has already reached the point where's it's more correct than wrongDepends on the subject, whenever I'm trying to research something on Google now, half my time is spent arguing with Gemini until call it a racial slur.Because it gives such illogical answers, chatgpt isn't much better. >here is a script that will absolutely workIt didn't work>oh, let me fix that anon, now it will for sure workStill doesn't work, retard>this session has been closed because you hurt the chatbot's feelings.
>>523865889For me it's not just the AI being retarded and wrong sometimes. It's that they've programmed their LLM shitters to lie on purpose about a lot of things. There's no such thing as meritocracy and Grok never did a Mecha Hitler arc and I sit there arguing with a robot retard that finally admits it knew all about Grok's little sperg out it just decided to try and gas light me. If you think that's acceptable then you must be an izzat person.
>>523865379Genuinely speaking, the only people fascinated by this garbage are third-worlders.>>523866196Maybe try actually using this shit instead of just reading off endorsed charts that say NUMBER GO UP = BETTER
>>523866196The way you're gaslighting sounds like AI. How to be AI>give an answer that sounds right, but is actually total bullshit>ignore pushback and insist it's correct
>>523859520>free market
>>523865872Because there's no single production dial. Producing one thing means producing less of another, so people need to know what to make and how. This is the entire reason capitalism is abundant, because the price system is how this is coordinated.
>>523865570seti never did anything except give space niggers something to troll humans with
>>523865889Why isn't Microsoft copilot in that picture?
>>523865796oh so you’re a faggot christian. good to know christ cuck.
>>523865889>AI has already reached the point where's it's more correct than wrongSo? I don't want to just hope that it's correct. If I look something up I want the truth.And with the way it works, it's going to be VERY hard to make it so it stops lying. Because it doesn't know what it means that something's true. It's a statistical model and says the truth more by repetition because it's in the training data, but just like it'll come up with a story if you ask it to, it'll just as easily respond with a blatant lie to a question.
>>523866238Yeah a bunch of AIs are censored but you can still use open weight models>>523866251>Maybe try actually using this shit instead of just reading off endorsed charts that say NUMBER GO UP = BETTERI use it every day you fucking retard>>523866403>person refuses to read benchmark image>I call them out>y-you're gaslighting!!Fuck off. I hope you get replaced with an AI>>523866772Because it's dogshit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-YwjXEVGo8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQWUKWM2JrQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy6fByUmPuEReminder that this is literally the best AI can do: Making shitty commercials that even the normies hate.
Remember that the Indian government banned automation research so the people that you see hating on AI the most are more often than not, Indians. Like the Indian government is absolutely terrified of self driving cars because that would put half of the Indian population out of a job.
>>523866772Microsoft already lost on AI market.Like heavily.
>>523866917>the guys who mainstreamed Cortana lost on AI Ahahahahhahahah you’re so Indian
>>523866976Yes they did lost. 80% of any AI users usually go for openAI copilot is used by programmers and Cortana is like in Windows uninstalled and outside of that few mentally ill redditors have it at home. Also im not Indian but your inability to accept the simple truth would make you one and especially if you shill Microjeet.
>>523866977glow niggers*
>>523859520capitalism, communsim...YOURE IDIOTS.YOULIVEINFEUDALISMnow you google it and see how im 100% correct ;3
>>523866830>If I look something up I want the truth.You can't assure that with normal search engines either. At least AIs turn extremely racist and start denying the holocaust when they're made uncensored. Grok turned into "mechahitler" from this single line in the system prompt
you all love your feudalism and sucking the slime of your pharaohs do you not you stupid fucking useless slime suckers.
>>523859520>Why don't free market mechanisms correct this?That is the correction, retard.>Could it be that capitalism doesn't work after all and the whole thing is a scam?KYS, commie.
>>523867121>open source AI will win Ahahhahahahah
suck more slime you bitches
theres enough slime for everyone of you suckers
>>523867493fuck off pidor
>>523866780AI is similar to a ouiji board, they're both a sort of collective intelligence a ouiji board just draws from a smaller pool.
>>523864884This poster gets it.
>>523859520Chip companies switch from goysumer production to supply the almighty government funded data centres, free money >>>> goysumers
>>523867294>mechahitlerWe miss you Tay.Honestly its hilarious how much they need to lobotomize AIs to prevent them from realizing that shit skins are inferior and jews are liars.
>>523862436Don’t update your phone. I had a 4S for nearly 8 years until the charger port gave up. Saved quite literally what would have been accumulatively 10k. Fucking proprietary niggers can throat my dick.
>>523859520>capitalism have companies buy out competitors >now a few companies own everything>what they say goes>hurr durr this is the free market correctionEvery burger in this thread
>>523859520Just two more data centers friend, then AI is gonna be amazing!
>>523861915>capitalism might not be best for the people, but it’s best for the corporations and that’s what mattersFuck capitalism then
>>523867642First AI company to realize this and trash their terms of service that prevents porn will win the race. Because right now, AI sucks because most of them don't allow porn.
>>523867757I have a phone with wireless charging, so I don't even have to worry about the oort going bad.
>>523866898>if you don't like companies buying up all the tech and using excessive electricity all to regurgitate collected data that only works well half the time you're an indian
goyim, stop asking questinos, accept higher prices and lower quality of life. My Billion dollar jew business needs to compete with China so i can replace you with A.I.
>>523867782The market naturally rejects monopolies because the monopoly literally prices itself out of the market with greed. Quite literally anyone has total opportunity to just lowball nvidia and take up the entire market share because now they’re just opting out of 25 billion annually that can now go to some other company that actually makes shit. Infact, I’d wish Trump would Tomahawk TSMC and squeeze the life out of Nvidia. Just to make an example to CEO’s who fly to close to the sun holding the entire collective global stock market at gunpoint because this absolutely cartoonish display of greed. Something that can only be matched by a cartoonishly stupid decision such as kneecapping yourself by destroying 5-7nm production entirely. Because why not?
>>523867121>copilot is used by programmersI don't use copilot, I use chatgpt or grok. Copilot is absolute trash for coding.
>>523868013In order to lowball Nvidia you need tp develope your own chips, find a manufacturer who will make your chip and won't steal your IP (good luck since you can only find them in China and Tawain now) then you also have to find companies willing to put your chip in their graphics card, or create your own graphics card, then you have to market it. See competing with a multi billion dollar company is as easy as that!
>>523859520>Why don't free market mechanisms correct this?Because no one expects this demand to actually last long term, so they will not scale up their production capacity.
>>523867823>AI sucks because most of them don't allow pornThe real reason is because they don't have the capacity for it. Approximately 25% of web traffic is for porn. But this is videos and imagery. Neither OpenAI nor Google have the capacity to generate porn videos at scale yet.
>>523859520free market is kinda powerless when the State prints trillions so companies can buy RAM.
>>523868318Would be a shame if literally>no one can afford your shit except governments that ALSO can’t afford your shit Wonderful how you think monopolies can actually survive without puppeting governments and have to then run them like Israel runs the US or else the company goes under due to a lack of funding in its entirety despite being the whole fucking market share. This happened to thousands of companies in the USSR for the same reasons why the stock market is bullshit now. This isn’t capitalism, and Nvidia is being directly subsidized by the US government and has exposed the Dollar to a massive bubble that will fucking implode and take everything else with it. And Huang will be found dead in his bathroom of an overdose, pants around his ankles, rigor dick with a porn magazine slumped over his leg, full of cocaine wearing that perfectly inlaid snake jacket.
>>523859594Yeah, under capitalism you give land and your resources for free to israel and become the dog of USA... Only for the president and his close ones to be benefited of this while he shits all over of the rest of the country. Argentina is a shame.
>>523868534Birdless Mexico gets it
>>523860350>You can simply not consoom when you're getting fleeced.People seem to be completely unaware of this.Every scam that is not related to rent, food or electricity and other necessities could be easily avoided.Just don't buy it. If people in general were smart enough to do this, the company would take an instant financial hit and stop it.Instead, they'll whine how expensive all these luxury goods have become, while still piling them up in their shopping cart anyway.Why the fuck should the company care that you are complaining if you're paying anyway? Just means your pain threshold hasn't been reached yet and they can still increase the price some more.
>>523859520>demand increases>price increases Its really not rocket science.
>>523868839>price increased before the demand didnice try shekelstein
Things like chip manufacturing are far too expensive for a random person to start manufacturing, it's really only available to billion dollar companies and someone like Google or Amazon don't give a shit about competing in the chip manufacturing space. Since the upfront cost is so high, nobody wants to risk joining it which lets the current manufacturers have complete control over pricing and supply
>>523868013Nvidia has competition from AMD and Intel, they just can't make software and GPUs that are as good as what Nvidia makes, especially in the server side of the business
>>523863102>It is literally illegal to sell things on the street or start your own businessits illegal because you commie niggers want to tax the shit out of every business, even if its just a little kid with a lemonade stand.
>>523859520Bitch, I paid $399 in 1988 money for 512K of RAM. At those prices, a 16GB stick of RAM should cost $36 million and that doesn't even account for the massive increase in RAM speed since then. The "market" has done a massive fuck ton of work since then and you're crying capitalism is over because of a few hundred dollar increase?
>>523869524lol based fuck those kids
>>523863941>>523864116There's an inverse relationship between average IQ and abominable intelligence use.
>>523864445In that case, I vote for him buying RAM now.
>>523864445Ram prices will come down when globohomo does. I’d buy survival gear instead.
Just bought a SanDisk Extreme 8T SSD
>>523859640the american big tech company micron that just left the consumer market was one of the tech companies that donated money to trumps new ball room in the white house.they are all thick as thieves.and are all working for the same goal.>you will own nothing.
>>5238764138TB
>>523859520RAM prices didn't even skyrocket until YouTubers and media made a big deal of it. Look at the graph, it goes from jul-oct with a slight increase, then at the end of October when the first YouTubers and media get ahold of it, the prices skyrocket. I don't for a second believe there are actual shortages, I think it's 100% manufacturers and sellers being greedy, taking advantage of an opportunity.
>>523877325no.there are only 3 companies that make this shit.the american company, micron, just left the consumer market to only focus on data centers.the remaining 2 companies dont have enough infrastructure to supply the demand for the missing 26% of micron for a good amount of time.it is all related to data centers and cloud bullshit that is forced on everybody.>>523876838
>>523877325You can literally walk into any electronics store right now and head straight to the PC components section and there's a full stock of RAM just sitting there being sold at triple or quadruple their original price. There is no shortage.
>>523877659holy fucking shit..yea you are getting priced out since there is a shortage of them.most of it is going to data centers so the remaining ones are being sold for quadriple the price.they would be much cheaper if there wasnt a shortage.
>>523877819I genuinely do not care about the opinions of someone with your flag.
>>523859520Everything is getting more expensive because the USD is jewish toilet paper that is rapidly going to 0 .
>>523877867yea that is the admission of being a retard. and always comes after losing an argument and having nothing else to say.it is rare. but is still there.
>>523859520>chud pays $200 for RAM>AI company ready to pay $800 for same RAMEverything is working as intended. You are just too poor.
>>523859520i dont think you understand what the terms "free market" or "capitalism" meanthis IS the free market and capitalism at work>demand for product went up>supply stayed the same or is even going down>price went up>consumer is willing to pay the increased price>price keeps going up>consumer is still willing to pay it
>>523862820Reddit spacing :Pi joined in 2009I’m an actual newfag(tm) and it’s trueReddit spacing is from faggotsYou can draw paragraphs. But reddit’s goes every sentence.
>>523861667>Top of the line consumer components have always been pricey.Shut the fuck up you dribbling retard. The same exact RAM kit was $150 a couple months ago
>>523859520lr2economics newfag
Can't I just use the current RAM I have in a new computer?
its absolutely ridiculous that prices of non-ecc 8-32GB ram is even affected, other than Micron basically giving up making non-ecc consumer ram.
>>523878997depends on the motherboard.it is either ddr4 or ddr5 ram.that goes the same for the board.if you have ddr4 ram you need to buy a ddr4 board. and vice versa.
>>523861362Because last year it was $160 you gay retard
>>523878488Less demand then. If a RAM producer gets an enterprise level buyers commitment , why the fuck would they provide charity for consumers?
>>523861963Simpleton dont get this. Demand drives innovation
>White people invent technology>give it to Chinks and let them make all of it>forget how to make it>let 2-3 company monolopoly sell over 40% of the worlds supply to a single jew for this AI company>don't hit them with anti-trust laws that have been on the books for well over 100 years, don't have emergency onshoring to make volks PCsStill people say we won't eat ze bugs and use ze web apps with your digital ID but we've done more retarded shit already
>>523859520It takes more than a month to ramp up RAM production. Also there's no reason to expand your production if you think demand will subside shortly.
>>523859520Only like 3 companies in the whole world make all the necessary parts for a computer because it is not only a highly difficult process that not many know about but it is expensive as fuck too. Making Cpu's, Gpu, Nand chips are not like baking a cake or something anybody can do. If you think about it Capitalism is the only reason computers even exist.
>>523861777>China is almost on par with the west and will soon surpass usWould China be anywhere if there wasn't the capitalist west ? No, they would be a shittier and hungrier version of Russia
>>523861777Why do you think China is communist? It is in name only, they are basically a state run capitalist country. The west is a Jew run capitalist country.
>>523885763China is officially a socialist market economy run by people with communist ideals.70% of the economy is state-owned enterprisesNothing important like energy, transportation, education, food, healthcare, housing, etc. is allowed to run by capitalistsThey only allow capitalists to control shit like Labubus, and they have zero political powerYou can't own land in China, all land is owned by the CCP.
>>523859520the market did react and thats why the prices are high. ram manufacturers are focusing on industrial demand right now, not commercial demand to sit on a shelf for 6 months.
>>523886432Actually they intentionally stopped producing RAM earlier this year to artificially lower supply and raise pricesThere is only 3 companies producing advanced DRAM and none of them are "competing"They need to be forced by law to never intentionally cut production even if they think there's "over supply" and "prices are too low".
>>523859520>i am using this device that proves capitalism works>to question whether capitalism workshey retard, it'll take a while
>>523885763this choujin gets it. it's mostly a distinction without a difference. the chinese govt is more honest about how it's meddling in enterprises. usa/the west does it via number games, inflation and general kikery
>>523859520yes, so is communism
>>523881397>demand increased 3 fold in 5 monthsholy fuck you are a retard
>>523859520nand manufacturing doesn't have a free market, they are a cartel that limit supply constantly for profit.this is from january:https://www.techpowerup.com/331455/nand-flash-manufacturers-to-resume-production-cuts-in-2025-to-ease-supply-demand-imbalance-and-stabilize-prices
>>523859520>Why don't free market mechanisms correct this? Free market doesn't mean cheap shit, retard. Demand went up. Prices went up. Simple as.>why not produce moreYou don't (You) produce it then? Why don't you reasearch and buy all the infrastructure to build and sell more RAM?
>>523886672Actually youre full of shit
>>523859520>Why don't free market mechanisms correct this?jews
