Realistically and scientifically, what actually awaits us after death?
>>523863032most likely nothing. zero consciousness. Know what it's like when you sleep? It's like that but with no dreams.
>>523863032>what actually awaits usWhat do you mean by "awaits us?" "We" won't exist anymore because we'll be dead.
>>523863094That doesnt make sense
>>523863032judgment.
>>523863133Retard detected
>>523863032Total nothingness
>>523863032IdkWe’ll find out eventually I guess
>>523863162By who?
>>523863032most likely reincarnation... jeets had this right long ago. materialism is fake, gay, and jewish.
>>523863032No idea
>>523863032No one knows/thread Edit: thanks for the good kind stranger!Edit edit: omg mom I'm famous!!!!!
>>523863032Reincarnation most probably but something happens. Too much evidence if you bother to research the subject.
>>523863133We have extensively documented brain injuries. If your brain stops working you lose all your memories, your personality, and any skills you've learned. If any sort of ghostly component remains, it isn't you.
>>523863032Nietzsche was nearest the truth with his Eternal Return conceptEventually no matter how many aeons must pass, the exact circumstances which led to your exact brain and body composition which makes 'you' will be recycled infinitely over and over.Each new life is physically seperatebut ethereally unified This is the Ultimate True Self of the ancient Aryan SagesThis Life is the Afterlife of the previous lifeSo your afterlife will be your next incarnation in the endless cycle of DYEUS' creation
>>523863032>what actually awaits us after death?depends on the person.if youre an npc you get sent to the void
literally nothingonly a fucking moron believes in an after life and a soul
>>523863032More death>>523863133It's hard(probably impossible)to imagine nonexistence
>>523863317If a radio stops working it doesn't mean that it wasn't picking up outside radio waves in the first place
>>523863032Primordial quantum soup.The individual self stops to exist.All humans are mixed in some plasma like state.'God' feeds from this.
>>523863270How does reincarnation work if we're always becoming more people?
>>5238633391. Nietzsche didn't actually believe this. It was a thought experiment to communicate the importance of making your life worth living because you only get 1 shot2. Eternal recurrence doesn't matter because you have no memory of past lives and therefore can't improve your future lives.
>>523863133if you suddenly became another person with no memory at all of your current life, that's what it would be like. there would be no reference point to who you currently are. you would just be living another life entirely. so it would be NOTHING because it has no relationship to your current experience
>>523863032you're are a mom #wreckt
>>523863434Do you understand that you can injure your brain and become a completely different person? So which version of you is passed to the afterlife?
>>523863094>>523863128>failed science classenergy can't be destroyed.
>>523863032https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nx-dZs-6o1whttps://youtu.be/RWenoJufVVw
>>523863032nothing but in the moment of death your brain still fires for a second and your neurons are frozen in that last thought, an eternity from your perspective. if you are aware of your death, which most people are, then you will have a final moment of clarity, where you can no longer lie to yourself; delayed things? regret. been evil? extreme guilt.psychopath/sociopath? nothing- purgatory.good, courageous and honest life? heaven.
>>523863032This is 100% true and what happens:Moon eats you. Sucks you in (tunnel light). It sucks for you then. If you are super willpower strong and aware you might escape it, but its very hard. Imagine a massive vacuume sucking your soul in and you can't grab anything and then you get splatted into 2d hell or you are mega will strong and you escape towards the sun direct.I am not joking
>>523863228christ.
>>523863428>It's hard(probably impossible)to imagine nonexistenceyes it is impossible because the mere act of imagination is an awareness of something existing. death is never experienced because you're dead and not aware of anything
Your soul probably goes to a lounge and chills out. You have a review of the life you lead with some beings. You can then decide to live in eternity or go back for another ride on earth. The souls do this to level up. Many try out rich, poor, famous, insignificant, healthy, disabled, etc. You need to do a bunch of rounds to play a toon like Hitler, Trump, Gandhi, etc.
>>523863605Do you even know what energy is you dumb christonigger?
>>523863032not sure what awaits you, but I am pretty sure your mom presenting her huge nordic anus awaits me
>>523863032Timeskip to 2199 and be born again, duh.
>>523863598afterlife is not subject to the limitations of spacetime
>>523863032>Realistically and scientifically, what actually awaits us after death?No concept of time means that you'll probably experience something immediately after you expire. Time doesn't exist until there is some type of observer, so you'll immediately experience something, not sure what it is though.
>>523863684all existence is energy.you better go back to school, anon.
>>523863032>Realistically and scientifically, what actually awaits us after death?Realistically refers to the realm of reality as experienced by humans, scientifically, similarly, refers to the realm of reality as discovered by means of human intellect and tools. Both realms are limited to making only statements within themselves not beyond. Therefore, the question in itself is illogical.
>>523863162Why are we being judged? Weren't we judged already when we made the sins, which then resulted in us being punished and suffering? Why the need to judge again? Wasn't the judgement known beforehand anyway?
>>523863032Evacuation of the bowels.
>>523863627yep
>>523863419Only a moron would be so certain either way.
>>523863598There is no "you" and hence no "version" of you that is "passed to" the afterlife. You are ridiculing your childhood conception of redneck Christian heaven.Question still stands: if a radio becomes broken, does that mean it never picked up radio signals, or that the radio signals no longer exist? Why does the radio's memory or form being lost matter?"I don't remember my previous life" is not a refutation of open individualism. You're just ignorant and dogmatic, ironically just like the people you enjoy smugly criticizing.
>>523863757No, you better.Energy is the capacity of a system to do work.Retard.
>>523863032Nothing. There is no after death.You die and nothing. Like pulling the plug of your PC and it short-circuits, all that remains is an empty carcass devoid of anything.But a part of me hopes there is, I hope god exists. After witnessing so much innocent death and suffering here, while a faggot stands, watches, and demands like a nigger to be worshipped for doing nothing or you'll be punished for eternity, I will fucking kill him no matter what it takes.
>>523864017Energy is one of the fundamental components of physics. Matter exists due to energy -- the inverse is not so.
>>523863976What is your claim? That consciousness is like electromagnetism? What gave you that idea?
>>523863032judgement
>>523864084Energy is the capacity of a system to do work.
>>523864132What gave me that idea is the impossibility of consciousness being embedded somehow into molecules.Soience has construed consciousness >>523864083 according to the most advanced technology of the time for millennia. A few hundred years ago, we were automata puppets. Before that, we were hydrolic systems.
>>523863032Consider this: if there was an actual afterlife, regardless of the details of it, wouldn't even the slightest evidence regarding that have lead to all of the different religions and cultures around the world coming to more or less the same conclusion? They'd call it different things and explain it in different ways, but it would still be recognizeable as different interpretations of a single common source. Instead, the only thing every religion has in common on the subject of death is that there has to be SOMETHING that survives of us when we die, because the alternative is too scary to accept. Reincarnation, heaven, hell, Hades, I don't care what the answer is so long as it isn't nothing.
>>523863032Hell if you are damnedHeaven if you are saved
>>523864187This is what you learned in grade school, but, had you continued higher education, you would have learned energy is not just a measurement.
>>523863467There's a limited number of souls.
>>523863887>Why are we being judged?not my rules.>Weren't we judged already when we made the sins, which then resulted in us being punished and suffering?not the same as final judgement.>Why the need to judge again?not my rules.>Wasn't the judgement known beforehand anyway?absolutely, but not by us.>>523864017incorrect.please go back to school.>>523864084this nigga gets it.
>>523863032>Realistically and scientifically, what actually awaits us after death?assuming the universe will infinitely expand and collapse, your atoms will be put together again exactly as they were when you were conceived. Immediately the continuation of your consciousness will follow that form and you'll start again.
>>523863094Last night I had a dream I shot all kinds of weird guns. There were 3 in front of me and I was like "I know what this is" and all the fake dream memories come flooding in that seem like real memories.>"Yea I know this one, its the mossberg 213, its different than the other ones because it has the......... and thats why its like semi and pump at the same time..."So I had a mossberg 213 for sure, then there was another 200 series that was supposed to be a semi and it looked normal, and then I started losing it.So by the time I grabbed the third one, it had like a big meter stick barrel coming out of it and a huge boxy holographic sight on it. Then I started shooting it straight pull style like the shooter from australia. I had to keep taking my cheek off the stock to keep re acquiring targets after each shot.Then I woke up and was like "what the fuck is a mossberg 213?"It makes me think all of our memories could be bullshit. I'm constantly lucid dreaming and having entire worlds of memory added and then removed once I wake up. "Oh theres that guy, I remember him from the many other times we've met and he acts like this and this" and then I wake up and it all disappears and instead I get this worlds gay memories like that trump exists and is an orange retard who is tariffing my industry for no reason cuz he saw an ad he doesn't like or something.Something fucked up with memory is going on and that's why on top of so much weird mandela stuff they also push Wizard of Oz and alice in wonderland dream world shit. Or maybe I'm just an MK retard idk yet but I did enjoy playing bioshock yesterday and FNV last year.Does this post make sense to anyone else or do I sound crazy?
>>523863976So where does this signal originate, where is it seated? Does it need a radio to actually move the air and make a sound? Who makes the radios, why don't they work properly, and why are they causing damage to the signal or maker of the signal?
>>523863179c'est la viePour me another one.
>>523864261>had you continued higher educationI did. Energy is the capacity of a system to do work.
>>523863467NPCsYou are reborn into your descendants but have no memories of the previous life.
>>523863032Though I'd like to believe there is some place else or something else, it makes more sense to have lights on, then lights off forever. You weren't anything at all until your mum and dad fucked one day and a bit of him and a bit of her combined in an instant of their lust for one another to make you. So you're returned back to nothingness when you die.All the time and energy you spent acquiring education and money and things doesn't matter one fucking little bit. That's all you get and you can't take anything with you but memories. What purpose those memories are to you in complete blackness devoid of motion, thought, love or anything makes no fucking sense. Just like being alive here on Earth.
>>523863094Retard alert! DING DING DING'Do you even know what happens when you sleep? There is still consciousness and activity when you sleep. Nothing can die.
>>523864367mechanical potential is irrelevant to energy's existence, anon.energy exists outside of systems.it's why the word "latent" exists.
>>523863094>>523863162>>523863179>>523863258>>523863260>>523863270>>523863443>>523863624>>523864083>>523864331W R O N GGet In Suckers, no escape now! Omnomnom delicious suffering omnomnom MORE!!!
>>523863032Niggers tongue your anus for eternity.
>>523863032it's over for (You) and your constituent matter--the building blocks--are broken down (by the microzymas which were responsible for your construction, and during your life maintained total balance,) recycled into the next generation of life. this notion that (You) continue to exist is the ultimate fucking cope. which has been weaponized against us in form of organized religions
>>523864230Somebody get this man the nobel prize
>>523863467A. The "soul" isn't some eternal intact unitB. Souls come from animals, plants, etc.C. Souls come from other universes D. New "souls" are generated within people that no other preexisting soul possessed / reincarnated into
The earth is a slaughterhouse farm. Throughout your life, you store gawwah that satiates the overlords. They can't devour you if you empty yourself
We are all just prisoners here, of our own device
>>523864492anon...
>>523864492>u die>eats you>nothing personal
>>523864517you are literally lying and you know it.only humans have souls and all souls are owned by christ.
>>523864331>not the same as final judgement.Why the need for a final judgment?>absolutely, but not by us.So why the need to subject us to all this then? Why not just make good people and then stop? Why not make everyone properly? Why make man worse than he could have been from the start anyway?
>>523864355>So where does this signal originate, where is it seated?You're straining the analogy too much.Personally, and I'm in the company of multiple Nobel laureates here, I believe consciousness is a property of energy, particularly electromagnetism. So it "originates" at the creation of the universe (or slightly precedes it).>Who makes the radios, why don't they work properly, and why are they causing damage to the signal or maker of the signal?Get this: the radio signal helped create the radio. EVERY SINGLE ONE of your cells is intelligent and alive and capable of experience. They're all making dynamic decisions constantly to keep you alive.You probably construe your brain as being "yours," too, but it isn't. There are multiple consciosunesses within your own brain, and they help form your identity. Why do you think ideas spontaneously pop into your head when you haven't even thought about them? They are the result of your brain thinking without you. Whatever "you" is. So is it really so much more bizarre to think there is no single consciousness, but a broader, overarching system that expresses itself in "pinch points" like brains?Also, computers will never be consciousness. Consciousness is obviously not an epiphenomenon. So no code will ever achieve subjective experience, think for itself, or have emotions. Our brain is analogous to a computer, so the wetware can't be wherein consciousness resides.
>>523864543>of our own deviceWrong! You are arrogant.
>>523864466>it's why the word "latent" exists.Trying to sneak thermodynamics?What, do we flash into steam? That would be rad, but no, our heat is the cells doing work, once the energy stops flowing in as sugars, there is no more energy to be spent by the body, death follows.Everything beyond that is either some jew religion, talking elephant shitflinging, or some Gaia-tier "we are like, all energy and vibrations, man!" crap.
>>523863605You are not energy, you are a consequence of energy. You are a construct and once this construct collapses, you cease to be.
>>523864596I don't associate with jew-worshippers
>>523863032The consequences of our choices
>>523863032>>523863605>>523863232>>523863270Reincarnation and afterlives are not real. The body is a vessel for consciousness and once the body is gone so is the consciousness associated with it, FOREVER. Nobody will judge you and you aren't going anywhere after, you simply cease to exist. They can create unlimited humans on the other hand so life will never stop existing here on earth. The creation is eternal and the creator can experience himself eternally, you are not on the other hand.
>>523864597>Why the need for a final judgment?not my rules.>So why the need to subject us to all this then?not my rules.>Why not just make good people and then stop?not my rules.>Why not make everyone properly?not my rules.>Why make man worse than he could have been from the start anyway?not my rules.pray about it. see if you get the answer.
>>523864653>>523864669>you are just matter. Death, decay, suffering, meaninglessness. I am smart. You are stupid. We all die. It is okay. Nothing matters. Death, decay, suffering, rot, rape.What pleasant individuals. I'm sure you hold the key to understanding the meaning of life!
>>523863032(((You))) go to hell
>>523864653energy exists outside of the elemental physical universe, anon.it's called "math".try it out.
The older you get, the less this matters, just enjoy what you can. No one knows, and whatever is controlling this World will never tell us common folk, since it would likely fuck their power over us up, or maybe it is all intentional.
>>523864743>I'm sure you hold the key to understanding the meaning of life!I observe reality as it is, if anyone claims their book or the machine elves they met while on DMT hold truth, they better get on the "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" train.
>>523864351Pretty sure that a million people read this post and didn't just scroll by it.
Solomon in the Bible was clearly a firm believer in the fact that when you die, you just get buried and that’s it. You don’t feel or struggle any longer. Another prophet (I forget which, gomen) says that he wishes he was dead, for then he would only be called when his God required it of him. People being brought back after death is actually quite rare in the Bible, and God Himself mentions that it is part of a future event where He revives all living, specifically in the vision of the bones to if I remember Ezekiel, could be Elijah, I forget the exact page it is on, so many apologies but no one in history has ever memorized the entire thing. If you study it enough it becomes obvious, if you don’t earn His favor in this life what are your hopes of another? It’s funny to see people praise Charlie Kirk (even pray TO him in idolatry like saintery) when it’s obvious the guy served money, and as Jesus said>you cannot serve God and money>it easier for a camel to fit through the eye of a needle than a rich man to get to Heaven>all money is the root of evilAll these lines are, of course, subject to constant mistranslation at the instruction of corrupt churches, such as keeping the Aramaic phrase>mammonMeaning riches and claiming it was a false God statue, when clearly Jesus was homeless, destitute, and beloved only by God who never abandoned him. Charlie Kirk was a stupid bitch, a nigger lover. Jesus avoided anyone>not of the children of Israelhis entire life.>keep ye from idols, children
>>523863032judgment
>>523863467>>523864270>>523864394>>523864517You have to open up your pea brain to understand reincarnation. First of all this isn't a super important planet you're on where you keep reincarnating on to with a limited number of souls. This is a consciousness channel among many and it's literally worthless. It's like saying this is the only radio station.
>>523863032I believe in reincarnation.
Any of you have any memory of what happened before your birth?
>>523864604>You're straining the analogy too much.>It's only convenient as long as it supports my theory, i'll just dismiss it if someone tries to scrutinize itGet a better analogy then, one that isn't full of holes.
>>523863032>Realistically and scientifically, what actually awaits us after death?The Lake of Fire
>>523863032Agartha
>>523864783>math is energyTired of your ilk. So fucking tired.
>>523864725man you sound fucking scared lmao
>>523864833I acknowledged something like that could be the case. Although I'm not necessarily convinced.
>>523864669everything in your post is 100% incorrect.please go back to school.>>523864677nobody worships the son, they worship the Father.try and get it right, anon.>>523864725>Reincarnation and afterlives are not realcorrect!but only because Life is eternal and never ceases unless THE GREAT DIVINE decides He no longer wants your ass around.
>>523864743>meaning of life!this is the meaning. you are a retard used for something beyond your comprehension.
>>523863032I see you.
>>523864897lrn2read.
>>523864669No, there's a reason we use devices to detect electromagnetic energy when dealing with the paranormal. It's the "Azoth".
>>523864549>shits you outGOOODMORNING SAAR INDIA SUPERPOWER 2320!!
>>523864549is this a storyboard from Aladdin
>>523864872I explained my worldview sufficiently enough to you. You clearly are hyper-defensive and just want to be combative.>>523864814Why is "as is" always the most pessimistic, death-affirming, cynical view?Because we as humans are naturally geared to pay attention to negativity foremost. So imbeciles such as you thrust yourselves before the world, proclaiming, "EVERYTHING IS MEANINGLESS AND TERRIBLE BLA BLA BLA YOU'RE COPING," and you're immediately rendered all of this undue respect, like what you're saying is truly groundbreaking, when you're really just parroting edgy r3ddit atheist talking points from 2009.Also, you've never done DMT. This is apparent. People who have tried psychedelics are, first of all, more open to new ideas, but also typically walk away from such an experience with a more nuanced view of the world in which we live. These people don't continue to wallow in edgy nihilism and the rejection of the grandeur of consciousness and the cosmos.You've reduced everything to mundane triviality. No wonder you're fucking miserable.
>>523863032I am ban evading from a proxy
>>523864956It’s not incorrect. You are an emergent property of energy, not energy. “Energy” will be just fine after you, but you wont be.
>>523864604>There are multiple consciosunesses within your own brainWell the all have the same fundamental flaw, so for the purposes of this debate there is only one.>Our brain is analogous to a computer, so the wetware can't be wherein consciousness resides.But it does. Wherever the brain moves, the consciousness moves with it, it is bound to it. You're suggesting i can just leave my brain, detach from it. Trust me, if i could do that i would.
>>523863032The most optimistic scenario is that nothing exists after death. Everything else is worse. Reincaenation is possible, joining a spiritual hivemind is possible too.
>>523865221I have abandoned my child
>>523865113it's even worse, imagine you get compressed with billion Indians into blackhole like crowded conditions for eternity. Imagine the smell
Your meat battery robot brain changes it's source of dream scene to another dimension, and you will go on to suffer another life in another dream world where you also work all day to pay taxes to gay bankers and terrorists.
>>523864604>Get this: the radio signal helped create the radio.So the signal was faulty from the tart and thus the radio is faulty as well?
>>523865358
>>523864703What led to that choice being wrong? What would have to be changed for that choice to be right? Were we made worse than we could have been on purpose?
>>523865221Nothing makes jannies seethe more than this
>>523865015>lrn2readlearn to reason and learn to communicate. your post literally said "energy is math" you fucking brainlet. all you're doing is parroting your nigger/jew heroes
>>523864833Explain jeets, then.
>>523865320Haven't we all?
>>523864948Go see a legit psychic and they will be able to tell you things about what is happening in your life. Your life is also a consciousness channel.
>>523864726>not my rules.That doesn't explain anything about the rules though. So you don't know, is that correct?
>>523865033You are a specific configuration of multiple energies, under a certain condition. Your death just means its dissipation. So the idea that “energy can’t be destroyed thus = you can’t be destroyed” is erroneous. You cease to be, that is all. All those energies will scatter and fall into causality to create a million other things. You are gone forever.
>>523865566No, it's the opposite. I've dealt with paranormal phenomenon more than once and have used vibratory chants (Tibetan style) to attract entities to me. I know what I'm talking about is true, whats insane is that others don't because the knowledge is kept secret.
>>523865300>You're suggesting i can just leave my brain, detach from itWhat do you think happens when you replace parts of your brain, ship of Theseus style, and transplant your memories into your new brain? Whose consciousness are you now? What I and others like I are saying is that there is no specific consciousness that inhabits your brain, just like there's no specific consciousness in each of your neurons, which, together, comprise your subjective experience.There is also evidence of group consciousness, which speaks to a more expanded view of this theory of mind. Where we disagree is really simply in how localized we believe consciousness to be. In my opinion, it can't be molecular. There's too much noise, it's too hard to transmit information (we think at the speed of electricity).>>523865400There's only one signal: electricity. The vessel this electricity is in shapes it. But every piece of matter has its own unique qualia. Happiness, or what it's like to drink lemonade, is a feeling that predates tastebuds. As organisms, we have simply evolved (MOSTLY THROUGH INTELLIGENT DESIGN) to take advantage of systems that existed prior to us.If you like, you can interpret this using the anthropic principle. If it seems highly unlikely consciousness is this woo-woo thing that floats in the ether, consider that consciousness can only exist, or is statistically more likely to exist, in that form rather in the form of molecular interactions in the brain or in Boolean number switching in circuits.
>>523863094It’s actually like the time before you were born, that’s what awaits us but problem is that time we are not in awareness because dead so eventually somehow our energy gets morphed into life consciousness again even if it takes a trillion trillion years it to us will happen instantly. So we forever suffer and reincarnate this way
>>523865637That doesn't mean this universe is trivially unimportant or that we'll all reincarnate in a different universe or whatever else>>523865566Nope, like the other anon said, ceasing to exist is one of the better possible scenarios.
>>523864823>What happens after we die?>Retarded mutt starts blabbering about pre Jesus Hebrews.Why are prottie jew loving retarded mutts like this?Have you got no shame?No sense on integrity?Convert to Christ"
>>523865921>pre-jesus hebrews bad>jesus hebrew good
>>523865693Your prose is shit. Multiple incidences of unclear antecedents, which is the cardinal sin of writing.Write clearly or cease the navel-gazing poetic tone. You are not smart enough to be this smug.
>>523863032Thats the neat part, no one really knows and he dead dont speak.
>>523865693Your consciousness is contained within an electromagnetic field radiating from your heart, that's why both Jesus and the Vedas say the spirit is in their heart. It's part of a field, that's why Atman=Brahman. Every religion leads back to the same truth but if you want to get straight the point of things study Vedanta, Tantra and Vajrayana.
>>523865975Jesus came as the Son of God and laid out how it is for all to see.Who would call himself a Christian and disregard the teaching of Jesus in such a obvious manner?
>>523863032Scientifically speaking, consciousness does not even exist. Any discussion about life after death is purely in the realm of philosophy.
>>523863032Realistically?Nothing. Not a vast nothingness for eternity but we cease to exist. Because we are dead
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>>523865637>a legit psychicKek.Theyre just reading you and youre falling for it because youre gullible.
>>523863032nothing, but the moment just before death you trip balls on DMT released from the pineal gland. So it's probably best to go peacefully and to be a good person while you're alive.
>>523865693>its dissipationCan't you literally get (over)magnetized if you stick your head near a giant neodymium magnet for example?
>>523865746Youre actually retarded huh.
>>523866162>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAuh...thanks, mr. owl
>>523865861>Nope, like the other anon said, ceasing to exist is one of the better possible scenarios.This is something I don't think the atheists understand.Oblivion is one of the better afterlives. If believers in an afterlife were simply coping, which many are, all of us would only posit positive afterlives.I don't even think any of the people in this thread who oppose atheist materialism even believe in heaven or hell.>>523866068"Consciousness doesn't exist" is the funniest counter to the cogito. Such a statement really perfectly summarizes how dumb the smartest people of today are.
>>523863933Do you believe cats go to heaven retard? What about cars? Only a moron would be certain they don't huh
Most likely, absolute nothingness. Not a void where you are floating in eternal blackness or anything horrific like that, but a complete lack of awareness or thinking at all due to no sensory input or way to process it. It'd be exactly the same as before you were born. If at some point in the distant future we somehow pull some sci fi shenanigans and manage to figure out a way to resurrect the dead, the moment between your death and your resurrection would seem instantaneous no matter how long it actually was. The bad news is this means that eternal paradise or heaven or whatever you want to call it probably doesn't exist, the good news is that hell and purgatory don't either. There's no suffering or boredom at all.
>>523865693>Your death just means its dissipationTransformation
>>523866214https://youtu.be/2QsELj3ocsw
>>523866234https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwqwD1dYe4M Experience is the best teacher man.
>>523865614What about them? They just breed more.>>523865861It tells you that consciousness worlds work by tuning into them like a radio. Extrapolate nigger. Think about what radio waves would be on a consciousness level.>>523866194See this attitude is why you don't know anything. Of course if you just deny everything like a goycattle then you will never believe anything. Try being genuine about it instead of dismissive. There are psychics that will read you over text over the internet with no information on you.
>>523866351https://youtu.be/1uYWYWPc9HU
>>523866283I said scientifically. Science can only observe the external physical world. No test or observation you can ever possibly make will detect "consciousness". And to clarify, internal subjective experience is not scientific evidence
Materialists are just annoying gay boys. I don't respect them or anything they preach because they don't advocate for themselves to begin with. They scream from the rooftops how they are monkeys and non-spiritual puddle men. Unexceptional and then still expect respect. I hope you get everything you wish for in the afterlife.
>>523863598By this logic you've already died many times over since you aren't the same person when you were 5, dipshit. Yet here you are.
>>523863627meds
>>523866734Science can't detect your virginity either, but you are nevertheless a soi-swilling virgo.
"Dear father, to whom will you give me away?"He said it a second, and then a third time.The father, seized by anger, replied: "To Death, I give you away."—Nachiketa, Katha Upanishad, 1.1.1-1.1.4
>>523866734https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQpknx_YyqcYou sure about that? These are quantum physicists in Switzerland performing Purushamedha.
>>523866758>I hope you get everything you wish for in the afterlife.Can you imagine going 30 years of your life and never experiencing the magnificence of God? Never having a spiritual experience?These people are not just dull. There's something inhuman about them. Yes, they are spiteful mutants who want others to become like them and suffer, but there is something profoundly INHUMAN about their existence.Now, mind you, some of them are even older than 30. Some of them live to be 80 (most die before then, as they are physically ill as well as emntally). What do these people occupy their lives with? Their days, clearly, hedonism. But what do these people live for?
>>523866810That's not the point Christcuck. The point is we know that if we disable portions of your brain, you lose very important functionality: memory, skills, personality traits. When you die all of those parts cease to function, so what's left isn't "you" in any sense of the word. That explains why Jesus says you'll be happy to be with your wife and whoever she remarries.
>>523863032I think reincarnation is likely, but there is no guarantee. Everyone finds out though.I did not exist in 1995. But here i am now.
you did your part in the simulation and maybe you rejoin the universal consciousness. no ones individual life matters, but everything you do contributes data, new experiences, that otherwise wouldnt have existed. your life has to matter to you, otherwise you wouldnt do anything. why do you deserve eternal life? you cant do anything without your "being" being hosted on something. btw reincarnation makes zero logical sense. i cant remember my past lives and cannot see my future ones, therefore it doesnt matter.
>>523864543Lol.
>>523867132Hold on a second here. I may just blow your mind:Is it possible the MIND isn't like a computer, but the brain IS? I mean, is it possible the brain is like a hard drive that records memories, but the conscious observer exists outside of the brain, acting upon the brain?NAHHHH. We're just animals.
>>523863317Just because you lose your memories doesn't mean that you aren't the same consciousness.
https://youtu.be/Tt7TUGu3veY&t=3792
>>523863094It can't be nothing, if it was nothing how did you come to exist in the first place? Also you cannot experience anything when dead so you cannot experience nothing, if you did somehow remember, you would just start in a new incarnation, I presume in the future.
>>523866758Mystics are just annoying gay boys.I don't respect them or anything they preach because they don't advocate for themselves to begin with. They scream from the rooftops how they are eternal and non-material ghost men. Delusional and then still expect respect.I hope you get everything you wish for in life.
तं दुर्दर्शं गूढमनुप्रविष्टंगुहाहितं गह्वरेष्ठं पुराणम् ।अध्यात्मयोगाधिगमेन देवंमत्वा धीरो हर्षशोकौ जहाति ॥ १२ ॥—Katha Upanishad, 1.2.12
>>523867132Your analogy doesn't track and you've been called out. So then, what's the difference between an "altered" brain and the brain of yourself when you were 5?
>>523863094This. Any other answer is hard cope.
>>523867354Monkey-see Monkey-doIf it were up to me I would just subjugate all materialists. If you think you're a monkey then you should be treated like one.
>>523863094https://youtu.be/HzRJUMNdVsg
>>523867354You deny what makes reality great and substitute it with tough talk and parroting the kind of shit Neil DeGrasse-Tyson would post on twitter.
Nothing
>>523863032For those worthy, a new plane of existence
>>523863032>what actually awaits us after death?Heaven or hell depending on whether you accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior or not.Hebrews 9:27 LSB[27] And inasmuch as it is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment, https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLB0D90D93E677C827
>>523863162Eww I hate that beer
>>523866655So you think a jeet has a soul? Get the fuck out, memeflag kike.
>>523867283Simulation theory is another good one. If humans can create virtual simulations, then what could something with a superior intelligence create?
>>523867582>Monkey-see Monkey-doNo it's called "contraposition" and it's a logical tool. You being a mystic wouldnt know about such things>i would burn you at the stakeand that's why i hate you with all my being. death to inquisitorsdeath to witch-hunters
Can't mess with the mindset
>>523867283Why does the conscious observer matter if the memories die with the body?>>523867479Just shut the fuck up retard. You clearly can't engage in conversation.
>>523867733remember that the concept of a messiah only makes in the context of ancient judaism. modern humans have existed for about 1 million years, i doubt the key salvation came in the last .2% of that. that doesn't mean the text is valueless.
>>523867649>what makes reality great is that it's all just the pre-game for the REAL shitfucking die
>>52386784310 lashes and we'll have you changing your mind. Funny how we have to go to such lengths just for you to have a higher opinion of yourself.
>>523863032Tax free tax status!
>>523867800Statistically far more likely than a universe that just randomly had the exact right conditions for intelligent conscious (material) life to evolve.>>523867895Why does an experience matter if you're going to forget it? Might as well just fucking press your own off button if you think like that. We are here to experience, not necessarily to remember. I mean, you can't possibly remember an infinite history with a finite body, so what do you expect?
>>523867925yeah sure, and life only exists because lightning hit a puddle of mud
>>523867895lol, thought so. Puddle man wants to be a puddle so badly.
Where will the storm take me
>>523867232> i cant remember my past lives All your inclinations for what you're good at and like to do are your past lives making up your personality.
>>523867953>i would whip youyou would die trying, christkike
>>523867315Your memories are one of the most important contributors to your sense of self. Without them, you form an entirely new identity.
Ask yourself what would be the purpose of transporting your spirit to a realm where people you've known are, and your pets are there too and fields and flowers and gold. That's all here. Enjoy it. From the moment of conception you are headed towards your inevitable end. Do something great with this opportunity. Another one isn't coming around.
>>523863094going from nothing to nothing is a paradox and your life never happened
>>523863032This is what awaits you after death once you get into the light
>>523868054Self is an illusion. This is only a problem to you because you equate what you truly are to your body.
>>523868067I do think your purpose is to create and play a character in this game we call life, regardless of what the surrounding metaphysical framework actually is
had a fuggn dreamnow I'm in it
>>523868007>Puddle man wants to be a puddle so badlyWhat the fuck does this even mean? Is this some gobeldygook your preacher came up with or some shit? I swear you retards have an entire system of cope that exists entirely in your little spic brains.
Im gonna be an electron next time around, see you in 13 billion years suckers.
>>523868006turkroach trying to reduce what i said to something completely different. never did i say there wasnt a higher power.
>>523863032Scientifically? Impossible to say, because there's no way to verify it.
>>523863032>what actually awaits us after death?Depends.
>>523868054You realize your "memories" are distorted lies and no where near the truth of what happened at all. And you probably remember like 5% of anything that happened to you, poorly. Can't even envision properly in your brain to begin with. Filtered to better fit with whatever sense of being you decide to be at any given time.
>>523863032It depends on what you believe. The universe is a playground.
>>523868176hey, you are the one that thinks humans lived for 1 million years already which is tied in with the whole evolution lie.
>>523867975>Why does an experience matter if you're going to forget it?Because I'm a biological entity that wants to continue to live and experience life. Because my memories are a big part of my identity. I could ask the same question to you. If you get to die and live in bliss for eternity, why are you on 4chan instead of preaching and living like Jesus? This life is all just worthless and temporary in the mind of a Christian.
>>523868309you are right, those fossils were places there to test our faith instead of the most likely reason.
>>523868222>Scientifically?Nobody asked what happens if you die sucking cock.
>>523868111>Self is an illusionThen what's the point in caring about the afterlife? So it happens to something that doesn't have my memories or personality... Not my problem.
>>523863317>>523868054Your brain isn't even real you fucking retards. You can cut most of that shit out and still function. Stop staring at the illusion so hard as if it has power over you.Repeat after me. "I am not my brain", "I am not in my brain", "the brain is not real".That will dispel the jew spell.
>>523868418why, the first world was flooded. humans could have lived alongside dinosaurs which the fossils belong to.
>>523863032Realistically, no one has any idea.
>>523868463>You can cut most of that shit out and still functionDepends on what you cut. But if you cut out any amount you will be overall less intelligent. And that's assuming you don't lose something important like your memory.
>>523863094It's the other way around, retard. When you sleep, you are in a state of temporary death, and dreams are what you experience when you're dead.
>>523868463That guy had like an IQ of 70, also a lot of the brain matter was crushed but still present.
>>523863032Scientifically:>wake up>oh fuck wtf, where am I?>pod opens, friends laughing hysterically>remember it was a simulation>chose a character with unlimited potential>unlocked virtually none of it>”what the fuck anon why did you waste so much time on the internet even after it became so shit? You literally had superpowers but never unlocked them “mfw
>>523863094Except you do have dreams when you sleep. When you are sleeping and dreaming, you are basically astral projecting into the spiritual/supernatural realm, just usually in a semi-conscious state.The same thing happens when you die, the only difference is that you no longer have a meat mecha to drop back into and pilot around in this part of reality.If you don't believe me, it is easily provable. All you need to do is learn how to lucid dream at a high level. Go into a dream, and capture and interrogate some of the dream NPCs. Do something that would normally force a dreaming person to wake up. Since the dream NPCs are actually dead people who no longer have physical bodies to wake up into, they will instead wake up into a temporary conscious state where they are aware of who they really are. At this point, gather as much biographical and other information about their lives as you can.Then, wake up and bring back as much of this information as you can remember. You can then independently confirm the information you collected by comparing it to third party sources in the real world.
>>523863032reviewafter review pretty much free time and then back to this shithole again.
Consciousness as dark matterBasically spiritual niggerism, it's pretty bleak
>>523868624>>523868680>only 10% of his brain left>uuhm acktually did you notice this technicality>infinite cope jutsuYou retard materialists will die believing you evolved from a monkey and a fish. At some point you have to know you're being fucked with by jews right? Surely the cope can't go on forever.
>>523863032More JWOBuckle up buttercup
>>523867123Yeah you and most of Africa are totally right anonhave a look at who is mostly religious, prisoners, browns, women...
People who rely soley on science are like people who have read a single chapter of a book and think they know the ending
>>523869014>At some point you have to know you're being fucked with by jews rightYou've got it backwards
I believe in an afterlife. I don't think the universe arose from nothing and choose to believe in a higher cosmic purpose. Unless the creator views us as NPCs and couldn't care less but then I'm not sure why they would give us consciousness.
>>523869078How are you even solving the captchas?Most people throughout history were religious. Most Europeans still are. Your criticism essentially is, "The majority of intelligent people reject religion in the modern era." And what is that a fumction of? Why are intelligent people atheistic materialists? Why do they support faggotry and other forms of degeneracy? It's because intelligence used to be a rare trait. Now it's common. Your average soi-sipping fedora tipper's intelligence is a byproduct of errant mutation. This is why the "intelligent" people are sick physically. They are idiot savants. When we analyze them univariately by how they score on tests or how white their skin is, we're amazed, "Wow!", but we fail to recognize how mentally ill, physically sick, and fucking ugly they are.
>>523863032reptilians tricking us into reincarnating
>>523868927How to find a "dream NPC"? What they have different?
>>523863032Literally nothing. The problem is that the body is the hardware to maintain the observer in your head. If the body is dead, then there's no observer and no ego.
>>523869078An ant farm performing scientific experiments. Not even getting into quantum immortality which is technically possible.
>>523863094We lack a complete account of the ultimate origin or necessity of matter so you can't say that with 100% certainty
>>523868074Why does everything have to be about '(You)r' life?so anthropocentricCome to terms with the fact that human existence has zero meaning or significance, none whatsoever
>>523869626Hey steve, thinking in 3D again?
>>523869546Like when you have a dream and there are other people in it that you interact with. Occasionally it is another living person who is also dreaming, but usually it's basically the ghost of a dead person.
>>523863032Resurrection to a worse or better universe while our dreams occasionally remind us of our past lives in unfamiliar worlds.
>>523863032god damn i thought i was looking at a DDT album cover.
>>523863162We return to the Monad and he says yes or no.
>>523864807I know, its written in the bible, its right infront of you but I guess anime and porn was more important>>523863032OP, scripture says "It's appointed for man to die once, then JUDGEMENT"God will judge every soul
>>523863032Death is non-existence, but you cannot conceptualise your own non-existence, because you are still "there" to imagine it. It's a conceptual impossibility. Only other people can conceive of your non-existence. After you die, your traces will gradually disappear, and people will gradually lose their memory of you. The ship of time sails on without you, and that was that for everyone else, even though for you, that was literally everything.
>>523863032Hopefully not the assignment to an ape like species
>>523870029Fucking nonsense babble. When you die you either go to hell and stay there until judgement day comes, or you go to abrahams bossom, paradise until judgement day.
>>523863094Except that's what it was before your birth and look what happened. Chances are something happens. Just hopefully it isn't shit.
I tell you, on the day of judgment people will give account for every careless word they speak, Revelation 20:11-15 ESV Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire. Hebrews 9:27 ESVAnd just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment, Matthew 25:31-46 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. And he will place the sheep on his right, but the goats on the left. Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, ...
>>523870029By this very logic you can't experience death ie non-existence.You'll be like no noooo but you can never not experience anything other than consciousness.
>>523863605>>523864669>>523864725>>523863684"energy" is something mathematical. it's used in calculations. usually used to describe if something's moving more or less. it's not some kind of substance.
>>523870280I thought Swedes were all miserable athiests
>>523869014>believing you evolved from a monkeytypical christian, unable to even comprehend Darwin's proposal for origin of the species, imagining he said we were once monkeys, in order to placate your own doubts
>>523870550It's not about being religious dumb ape man.
>>523863032Anon, when our brains experience trauma or recognise imminent death, it fabricates a reality in which the trauma never happened or severely diminishes its severity and makes your reality more palatable. It elevates Theta brain wave levels and your connection between consciousness and subconscious is severed. Theta is an inward super learning state which also distorts our ability to perceive time. We are in theta when we dream, when we are hypnotised and children are in it from the ages of 0-7 years old. As we get older, we are grounded in reality and dream less.What most likely happens is that your brain will escape into theta, time stretches to infinity and you subconsciously fabricate a reality in which whatever killed you, turns into a near miss and you carry on with your life except one layer down. If you don't repent, know yourself, merge the conscious and subconscious, your next "life" will be hellish.
>>523870136>Fucking nonsense babble>starts regurgitating biblical gibberish
>>523870744The whole DMT releasing in your brain on death is a myth.
>>523863032
>>523870951Scientist still tie ego to consciousness what a fucking niggers.
>>523867283>but the conscious observer exists outside of the brainIf i'm that observer then that's not true, i can't leave my brain. I'm bound to it and am forced to experience everything the body experiences as well.
>>523870550Oh I'm sorry did you want me to call you an ant instead? What about the rocks you evolved from? You evolved from magic jew rocks. It was all very scientific and shit. Happy?
>>523870630>dumbyou're the simpleton who thinks evolutionary theory claims men were once monkeys. this is proof you arent even capable of critical thinking. you're just an indoctrinated parrot
>>523867315>Just because you lose your memories doesn't mean that you aren't the same consciousness.But what is that consciousness without any data then? Is it just the focal point of two (or more?) projections? A standing wave of sorts? I'm not into physics that much so it's hard for me to describe what i'm thinking.
>>523871288>magic jew rockstesticles of yahweh
>>523863032For the saved, the Lord Jesus Christ forever.For the unsaved, eternal punishment for their sins and for rejecting the Lord
>>523865221BASED
>>523871459Whatever you say man who's ancestor is a sludge puddle.
>>523870361>you can never not experience anything other than consciousness.NTA but this is why I'm supremely uncomfortable with reincarnation. I want off this rock. Continual replays of this game seems like hell. Oh sure once in a while you'll win the genetic and luck lottery and have a decent life. But then your imminent death will just sting that much more. We need SALVATION. People who find comfort in reincarnation haven't considered it very much.
Nobody knows. Most of the sources of information on a supposed afterlife are schizos, grifters, and the delusional. For instance the kinds of women who collect crystals and think they're psychic.Same for all the prophets - be it Jesus, Buddha, or whoever the fuck - schizos and lunatics.It's not for us to know, learn to live life in ambiguity.
>>523863032Hi anon, no one knows. Religions are cope, we are a strange species. Don't look for answers to things outside of us within man-made (see: kike controlled) sciences. They're often wrong. We just have to wait and see.
>>523863032you reincarnate as a jeet
>>523863032decomposition and being bug food.
>>523871916Everyone who ever posted on /pol/ gets to be a Jew in WW2 Germany. You guys see the problem with reincarnation yet?
>>523870919I've had dreams more powerful than DMT. And I've taken DMT.
>>523871779>i was created from dust by the jew god>im far superior to the puddle people
>>523871978The Communist Party doesn't pay based on IDF experience in a former life?
>>523863032>Realistically and scientifically, what actually awaits us after death?We can't know because of two things1) If we did know, our entire belief system and civilization would collapse2) As you're dying, the passage of time becomes slower and slower in your perspective until the moment of death when it becomes "perpendicular". You can't know what it's like to be there with no time passing, in terms of our current reality which is time-based.
>>523871227You're being forced into deep roleplay and you're being forced to conform to the collective but you are not bound to your brain. You would be surprised by how easily the switch can happen once you drop the roleplay. Stuff like psychedelics can knock you out of your body.
>>523872087Who said I was religious.
>>523868111>because you equate what you truly are to your body.Am i not? Is there a way for me to willingly detach my true self from my body? Can i leave it, temporarily, and come back? I can't, right? I'm tied to it, forced to feel it. If my body hurts, i hurt.
According to Buddhism, after death, gay people have molten iron poured into their anuses by demons.
im not telling you, it would shatter your psyche/mindbut you can start lurking for 2 more years @ /x/ before posting and then you might be schizo enough to have a battle harden mind to be able to withstand the answer.>t. knower
>>523868293If i believe that i can live life free of pain, will that then make it so? You know full well it wont.
>>523872412You're already off with the wrong perception. Google the mind-body problem.
>>523872199Every communist gets to be a gulag victim. The funny thing is, this is kinda biblical. First shall be last. Last shall be first. Judged as you judge. Etc.
>>523868624Wasn't memory in brains formed similarly as a hologram is, where if you take even the slightest piece off of it, it will contain the whole picture? Or like with magnets where if you take a piece off a bigger piece it will always have two poles.
>>523863032>he assumes that this isn't the afterlife
>>523863032>>birth, deathkek, pic related
>>523872412A psychic has to leave their body and go to your life to read you. They are technically leaving and coming back.
>>523863032Your consciousness leaves your body, travels to the black hole in the center of the universe. During that time you feel like it's all made of love and you remember everything in your life. If your memories make you happy it's heaven, if you are regretful it's hell. Once you enter the black hole your information is rewritten and you are reborn with no recollection.
>>523870951>>523871176It all may be not that simple. See: https://dailyneuron.com/brain-quantum-field-consciousness-theory/
>>523863032Your VR chamber opens up and you compare your results with your frens. Then you go back in to play again.
>>523863032scientifically and realistically, there is no way to observe the afterlife, which makes science pretty useless when it comes to this, which is where i come in to save the day. you better believe itafter death comes... anyway i'm not really here to discuss this topic, i'm here to say that if you don't have one of these (pic rel) you are NOT whiteprefrontal lobe = cro-magnon = germanic = white = high trust individual anyone else can't be trusted and doesn't belong in the west because they are incompatible with itthanks for the solid thread OP, and don't listen to what these shitskins have to say. don't be fooled by their flags, they are shitskins. i had to come to portugal because it's full of them out there
>>523869948Why didn't God make every soul properly? Were souls made faulty on purpose?
>>523863032When we all return to stardust, the possibilities are infinite.
>>523864348This...time is a flat circle. Etc.
>>523863032nothing. humans are not special at all
>>523864351yea I understand
>>523863179
>>523873927>time is a flat circletime isn't an object. it is merely our measurement of the passing of the sun, the Lightbringer
>>523864394I think we're supposed to remember past lives and were originally designed to, among other mental abilities. In every religious text and tradition there's some story about the gods becoming uneasy with human beings becoming too numerous and too capable. There's either some kind of expulsion, shortened life span, or dumbing down of our abilities. I think jews are descendants of Annunaki Archons and sort of act as the prison guards. They're dead set on destroying Aryans because we're the closest genetically to Ancient Hyperboreans and Atlanteans and have the most potential at recovering lost abilities and would be able to defeat the Archons and the Demiurge and make this world into a paradise without them.
>>523872284>but you are not bound to your brain.I can't leave it. I can't not feel what the body feels. If i'm wrong then please do tell how do i detach from it, specifically how to not feel pain.
Same thread EVERY SINGLE DAY. Can’t you faggots come up with something new?? I hate this site. I’m never coming back. I’d rather be dead than read the same retarded threads everyday.
>>523863032a priori impossible to know without experiencing itnobody knows, any explanation is either cope or trying to sound smart
>>523874191>annihilation of his beingnah just the recycling of his material components into next_being >>523864508
>>523873870Cosmic licky bum bum sounds good. There are far worse conceptions ofnthe afterlife
>>523874222not mutually exclusive
>>523874438heh
>>523863032Every sigh, breath, tear you have experienced will be experienced over again. We've been here shitposting this exact topic millions of times before. Eternal Return.
>>523874306I already said psychedelics, I have done it before. It's not my fault you didn't believe me.
>>523874616>clueless midwits
