Without God, meaning and morality do not have an objective grounding, yet a bunch of you people live as if your life still has value, or that your choices matter. The moment you deny God, you lose the right to claim that objective value, meaning, or purpose exist, or that something is right or wrong. But you cannot rule out the possibility of God either by default, because of cause and effect, and symmetry and order, etc.If a mathematician was presented with the choice (A) guaranteed 0%, and choice (B) even a slight chance of >0%, the mathematician would be forced to choose (B), not out of fear or despair, but out of logic and rationality. If everything you believe in collapses without a creator, and you can see even a slight chance for His existence, you must have faith in Him; otherwise, your choice is emotional.Most of you people do not want to be logically consistent, and that is why you fail the test. You do not fail the test because you lack proof; you fail the test because you hate the truth.
I am open to the possibility of GodI believe it is arrogance for man to believe he can know God's willTherefore all organized religion is heresy and all religious people are heretics by default
>>523863769>I believe it is arrogance for man to believe he can know God's willthe nature of God is revealed to us by his Word, God incarnate in the person of Jesus Christ.the only thing you have to do is yield to his authority of what the Word says and give God back control over your life in repentance, making his Will for your life primary and your will secondary.thats where most people falter, since the flesh is in enmity with God.
>>523863769I know Gods will
>>523863487trvkewithout religion we return to animals like, sodomah and gomorah, and you see it today, everywhere, atheists are wrong and close-minded
>>523863487Isaiah 41:21-24: "Produce your cause, saith the LORD; bring forth your strong reasons, saith the King of Jacob. Let them bring them forth, and shew us what shall happen: let them shew the former things, what they be, that we may consider them, and know the latter end of them; or declare us things for to come. Shew the things that are to come here- after, that we may know that ye are gods: yea, do good, or do evil, that we may be dismayed, and behold it together. Behold, ye are of nothing, and your work of nought: an abomination is he that chooseth you.""If you and your Moslem (and Catholic and Hindu and Buddhist) friends cannot meet THOSE requirements which God gave you in His Book (see Mal. 3:16), then for heaven's sake, don't go around bragging about some fornicating polygamist or some wine-headed politician or cross-legged yogi who as (and is) no more a genuine "prophet" than Goldilocks and the Three Bears (Ezek. 4:9-10).https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUtwaN7lQbUhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/qzHWrQ2DHhQ (How to Prove the Power of Christ in 60 Seconds)https://truthischrist.com/seven/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCsPy4CY6hIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ919YomJjMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcvFX5uIRb4youtube.com/watch?v=yS78mFJcvhQfcbaptist.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Bible-proof.pdfA man is saved in this age by grace through faith (Eph. 2:8-9) in the one, final, effectual sacrifice of the Lord Jesus Christ (Heb. 10:8-12) dying in his place as a substitutionary offering for sin (Rom. 5:1-10). If he has received the Lord Jesus by faith (John 1:12) in his heart, that sinner is SAVED, and is saved, once for all; finally and forever.Man-made religions are pointless, they are just "religious" ideas, not historical realities. The Bible is from God, so it makes no sense to ignore it and go to the teachings of corruptible men instead.
Proof that the Bible is the word of God:fcbaptist.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Bible-proof.pdftruthischrist.com/seven/1 Cor 15:3-4: “For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:” How to know you're saved youtube.com/watch?v=_VRT2FFXntc1 John 5:7: "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."Rom 3:23: “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”Jesus Christ is God who has come in the flesh from heaven. He died as a sinless sacrifice for the sins of the whole world to save you from eternal hell, the punishment for your sin. He was buried, then resurrected and then ascended to heaven. John 3:16: “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” John 10:28: "And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand." Rom 10:9: “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."God wants to forgive you, but you have a choice: Do you choose the righteousness of God by receiving Christ? Your own righteousness can NEVER justify you or keep you saved because of your sin. Rom 5:9: “Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.” Salvation is by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, in His finished blood atonement. The gift of salvation can't be earned. Confess The Lord and Savior Jesus Christ in prayer, that you trust in Him and believe He atoned for your sins on the cross.Eph. 2:8-9: “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.”
>>523864345>picyeah, legit hit me hard when I read something Jesus told a crowd of people and it was like he was addressing me personally 2000 years ago. this sudden realization, this is God, only God can know that about me.also good posts.
>>523864076>he only thing you have to do is yield to his authority of what the Word saysWhich version?
>>523865162the version God delivers to you. you cant make right decisions. the flesh is fallible.
>>523863487>God>objective groundinglel>you people live as if your life still has valueso I guess yours doesn't? mine does>you lose the right to claim that objective value, meaning, or purpose exist, or that something is right or wrongsez you>If everything you believe in collapses without a creatorbegging the question>justiceis emotional>truthis emotional>beautyis emotionalgrind the Universe to the constituent quarks and sieve it - there will be no justice, truth or beauty for you to find.Humans made that. "God" is us.
>>523863487Why would god give life objective meaning. God came from nothing for no reason. His values are just as subjective as anyone else's.Also, what god am I even meant to have faith in. There are an infinite number of possible gods.
>>523863487God tongues nigger ass
>>523866512only God can give your life meaning, your life is otherwise meaninglessGod always was before creation, he didnt come from nothing, you however doyou put your faith in the living God Jesus Christ as he revealed himself to us
>>523863487there is no God watching you or micromanaging anything you do or giving a shit if you do silly time wasting rituals.all Religions are all about making you a better wagecuck for your jew masters so the can live comfy while you cope with afterlife promises that will never happen.and thats pretty much it.>but why are we here?Humans are oversized mold/bacteria. their job is to break down the planet as it dies (weakening magnetic field) and then either spread to a new planet or die with the current one.>or that something is right or wrongyou dont need a jewish book to know whats right and whats wrong. you know it because you see whats good to make a functional civilization or you dont see it because you are a low IQ moron.
>>523866657I can't think of an existence less meaningful than one in which the Jewish god is the creator of the universe.
>>523867055what did the jews do to their God?
>>523863487So instead of your subjective morals, you take god's subjective morals. Pretty lazy.
>>523863487Morality is not nearly as complicated as abrahamics portray it as. The moral observations they espouse are only profound to brown subhumans
>>523863487>Without God, meaning and morality do not have an objective groundingMeaning and morality do not have an objective grounding even with God, as evidence by the fact that God changes his answers over time even in the context of the bible. The God of the Old Testament and the God of the New Testament are two very different gods that espouse different moralities. Therefore, either God's morality is no more set in stone than man's is, or God is immutable but the bible itself is wrong (and therefore nothing it says about god on any topic can be trusted).
>>523863487Let me summarize this post for you>whaaaaaa if my specific god that my parents picked out for me isnt real then im not super special awesome and unique. Let me cry about it on 4chan like a good kikeFaggot.
>>523863487Belief is rationalFaith is a reaction to the horrors of the world its a hope that our creator is merciful.
>>523866657If my soul is eternal, that pretty much means it has always existed, and will always exist. So I existed with god from very beginning. From that its more or less sage to say I did not come from nothing.
stupid jew worshippers
>>523866945>>523867372human morality comes from being made in the image of God, we sin because of the fall and cant keep Gods moral law>>523867423Jesus is the God of the Old Testamentthe moral law still stands, the ceremonial law has been taken away for access to God.>>523867753>If my soul is eternalyour soul is not eternal, it can die/be destroyed.
If Christian god is moral, why did he torment Job? He admitted Job did not deserve such fate. Why did he punish Egypt's first born, for decision he made the pharao do? How does YHWH and Jesus work as a basis of morality, when he acts like that?
>>523867865Reconcile the commandment to worship no idols before God with the existence of Jesus and Mary as icons in christian faith.
>>523867865Eternal soul is widespread belief in christianity. So are you peddling me your own denomination?
>>523867865>made in the image of godWhat does that even mean and how and why does that translate to god having the same moral law as mankind?
>>523868260>Jesus and Mary as icons in christian faith.roman catholics are ROMANS not christians, they practice paganism.>>523868269no, I simply tell you what Jesus said. what others believe is not my business.Jesus talks about the death of the soul and the second death. that means the soul is not eternal.>>523868317no, we are subject to the moral law of God since we are to represent his picture.everyone knows that killing is wrong, yet it happens, same as lying and adultery. we dont measure up on what God expects from us, we fall short of his glory.
Is he watching right now?
>>523868486So your interpretation of christianity rejects catholicism, while still basing your religion on the text that the catholics wrote? If you ignore everything that the catholics wrote in the bible, what do you have left to base your understanding of Jesus on?
>>523868021Genesis 3:17-19 KJVThe end user agreement applies in all situations.>17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;>18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;>19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.
>>523868690no, the bible rejects roman catholocism.>while still basing your religion on the text that the catholics wrote?catholics wrote Matthew, John, Peter, Pauls epistles, James, Jude, Revelation?I think not.
>>523868701So fruit allows god to punish you for decisions he forces you to make? Any agreement with such a being is unwise.
>>523867865>human morality comes from people trying to figure out how to make a functioning civilization.obviously if people just murder each other or steal eachs others shit nothing productive will get done. so laws to forbid murder etc had to be introduced.you see no fake jewish god needed.
>>523863487There's a spirit in another dimension that guides everyone's life on Earth! i know this because I telepathically communicate with him. Trust me, bro.
>>523868486>we are to represent his pictureI still don't understand what that means/is meant to imply, but it doesn't really matter because>everyone knows that killing is wrong anywayGreat, so what's god's moral law offer to us that mankind hasn't already come up with? Where's the profound revelation?
>>523869159>obviously if people just murder each other or steal eachs others shit nothing productive will get done. so laws to forbid murder etc had to be introduced.and? how is it going champ? does the law make people good or do they still commit crimes. can you please show me this utopian civilization you are talking about?would love to see it.did you ever lie, or have stolen, or wanted something someone else had?
>>523869291the profound revelation is that we cant keep the laws of God.see >>523869355
>>523869355>does the law make people good or do they still commit crimespeople will always commit crimes, doesnt matter what religion they subscribe to.you see your gay jewish priests are still pedophiles that rape children and they still steal your money through the church tax.>this utopian civilization"utopia" is impossible and no jew religion will get you there either.its surprising that someone as low IQ as you can solve these captchas.
>>523869406God doesn't uphold his own laws, and murders people.
>>523863769>I am open to the possibility of God>I believe it is arrogance for man to believe he can know God's will>Therefore all organized religion is heresy and all religious people are heretics by defaultNo.Therefore you reject God because He is not good enough for you.You wish to place yourself higher than God, not lower.
>>523869530I have no priest but the High Priest Jesus Christ in heaven.we have direct access to God, we dont need human priests. that system has been done away with.>"utopia" is impossible and no jew religion will get you there either.Jesus Christ will come to earth and build his kingdom here on earth. thats what I am waiting for.>its surprising that someone as low IQ as you can solve these captchas.youre not exactly the brightest lamp either for refusing to see Truth.
>>523869638when did Jesus ever kill someone?
>>523869664>thats what I am waiting for.nothing will happen, you will have wasted your life on jewish fairytales and die a poor clueless retard thats none the wiser.>youre not exactly the brightest lampif I'm a lamp then you are a wet matchstick in a basement.
>>523869696The first born of Egypt. One being, because of trinity. So Jesus gets the charge as well.Otherwise we would let off people with split personas off the hook too.
>>523869820>nothing will happen, you will have wasted your lifenah, I have been shown a glimpse of whats coming. I have nothing left in this corrupt and rotting world that would excite me. its all death and wasting.what coming is so insanely beautiful and perfect it cant even be put in words.>if I'm a lamp then you are a wet matchstick in a basement.youre throwing your eternal existence away in a retarded gamble. youre the dumbest person and will regret it bitterly once Jesus returns.>>523869856>23 For the Lord will pass through to strike the Egyptians, and when he sees the blood on the lintel and on the two doorposts, the Lord will pass over the door and will not allow the destroyer to enter your houses to strike you.the destroyer is not God. its most likely satan.
>>523869406>people sometimes break laws This is profound how?
>>523870180Grasping at straws now. Its not much better, if he orders a hit from his subordinate.
>>523870410we should not by design.>>523870548did God allow satan to torment Job but told him not to kill him?
>>523869856Russians are not going to heaven
>>523870713Just his family. Job had plotarmor.
>>523863487ignorance is a bliss
>>523870948
>>523870713>god made us in his image, ie perfect>yet we are imperfect and cannot follow his law>what a profound mysteryThe simpler thing to conclude from this is that it's merely the deranged power fantasies of barely literate, dehydrated jews milling about the desert for 40 years. Of course it's gonna be laden with contradictions
>>523870925why, God gave him even more children and the ones that were killed by satan will be raised in the last judgement too.Job is a lucky guy.>>523871240so you are without sin or what? sin leads to death unless you accept Jesus Christ as your savior and do as he told you.or do you think you can stand before a just God and tell him how good you were?
>>523870948Nietzsche understood the collapse, but he did not understand where it leads. If you truly grasp nihilism, then you realize that, logically, if the alternative is meaninglessness, you lose nothing by choosing faith, and it is the only thing that could give your life true value. Why would you bet on nothing when there is a chance at something higher? That would just be irrational.
>>523871360So I can kill someone's children and then give him a orphan as a replacement? Or can Inkill anyone? Everyone just gets up on the last judgement.>>523871382>Nietzsche understood the collapse, but he did not understand where it leads.Nigga, his writings were all about the consequences. He just saw Christianity as a dead mythos.
>>523871719the question is what happens in the last judgement to you that you should worry about.
>>523871719>>523871769"Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt."
>>523871382>"Truth is error" >--Friedrich Nietzschehttps://youtu.be/fhnrrLxQEVQ
>>523871889Friedrich Nietzsche experienced a complete mental collapse on January 3, 1889, in Turin, Italy. He never recovered his sanity and lived the remaining eleven years of his life in an incapacitated state under the care of his mother and sister.
>>523871360>are you without sin?Of course not, but if the god you worship would rather reward a raping, murderous nigger over me because the nigger takes to his knee and says christ is kang in the end, I don't give a fuck about what that god has to say about how bad a person I am.
>>523871769Avoiding the question now. You're trying to excuse your god, who acts like a gangster. While trying to tell me he's the base of morality.
>>523863487>The moment you deny God, you lose the right to claim that objective value, meaning, or purpose exist.Okay, nice metaphysics you just invented, faggot. I won't even elaborate because it's so juvenile.
>>523872149there are only former sinner in heaven. get back into the line.>>523872211God is pretty based and gracious even in the OT.
>>523863487There's a God and He's the God in the Bible
>>523870180>I have been shown a glimpse of whats coming. thats called a mental illness, in reality you didnt see shit. you just deluded yourself with a fake jew religion. its also called "cope".>I have nothing left in this corrupt and rotting world that would excite mesounds like a (You) problem. nowadays many people are too retarded to build themselves a proper life worth living.>what coming is so insanely beautiful and perfect it cant even be put in words.nothing is going to happen, you will just die eventually and thats it and then you probably respawn again. next time most likely as an indian.>your eternal existenceits eternal regardless if you believe in a circumcised brown jewish subhuman or not.
>>523872339>you're on the same level as a raping, murderous nigger, if not, lowerI rest my case
>>523872339To one set of people, who he tells to kill and enslave others.
>>523863487>moralityI don't find most of you so called Christians to be very "good" people so I stopped reading there
>>523872422imagine investing your life in this world and then just dying.such a pointless existence.>>523872460so its your pride. got it.>>523872502lmao, God always used other nations to judge his people. Nineveh was spare and Nebuchadnezzar was even granted repentance by God.all you can bring up is an Egyptian Pharaoh who went out of his way to go against the Will of God.
>>523872280>you deny God, you lose the right to claim that objective value, meaning, or purpose exist.He didn't invent it, it's an endemic clause in the American constitution that one's rights are "God Given", ergo, in legalese; if you deny God as your creator l, you deny the "God given rights" part of the Constitution. I wish to God I were making this up and pulling it out of my ass, but i have no immediate sources to corroborate my claim, I'm afraid you'll just have to "trust a bro" who grew up around lawyers and weasels.
>Be fucking retarded.>Try to seize control over society.>Screech about how "persecuted" you are, as you fuck up society.The judeo-christian religion, in a nutshell.
Shut up kike
>>523872683Even the tribes of promised land?>went out of his way to go against the Will of GodHis heart was hardened by god. So pharao was puppeted by him.
>>523872820no, pharaoh hardened his heart first. read the bible.>Even the tribes of promised land?the promised land was filled with giants, not humans. read the bible.
>>523872683>imagine investing your life in this world and then just dying.death is part of life and after death life begins again. its an endless cycle that literally goes on forever as long as the universe exists.>such a pointless existence.the pointless existence is the one where you waste your time with a jewish slave religion where you have to worship a brown manlet from israel thinking you get some good goy points for the "afterlife" if you do what the jews tell you.now thats the most pointless shit ever.
>>523872683If being prideful is thinking you deserve better than a raping, murderous nigger, then yes, I'm prideful. You got me.
>>523863487>Without God, meaning and morality do not have an objective grounding, yet a bunch of you people live as if your life still has value, or that your choices matterthat's the thing: life does not matter and has no true purpose. you are the ones lying to yourselves and saying it does.retards
>>523863487sure, but only if it on a personal basis relationship, else it becomes a weapon and society control mechanism. I hate these neo christians being the biggest racists pieces of shit ever imagined, as if jesus was not just a brown dude from palestine. Absolute nonsense.
>>523872949>its an endless cycle that literally goes on forever as long as the universe exists.thats a worse concept than hell. that just means endless suffering.>you get some good goy points for the "afterlife"you dont, you dont deserve eternal life and cant work for it. its given free by grace through faith, thats the beauty of it.>>523872967good, at least youre honest.I know I am a sinner and deserve death, idc what others have done, I did just as bad already in my life.
>>523872900If Pharao's heart was already hard, then it would not be necessary for god to harden it.>giantsYeah, ancient tribes called their enemies giants. Makes it ok to kill them. Also, are you saying killing a giant is not a murder? How about a midget?
>>523873130>that just means endless suffering.suffering is part of existence and you will suffer for many many more billions of years maybe forever as it doesnt look like the universe has a beginning or an end.>its given freeeternal life is given free by design of the universe.no jewish subhuman worship needed.
>>523863487This "But what grounds your morality" gambit is midwit logic. It's no better than picrel.
>>523863769>I believe it is arrogance for man to believe he can know God's willI believe the opposite. God is who maintains the logic, the continuity and the coherence of the universe. If the universe were ultimately incomprehensible then that would have to be rooted in it being either illogical, incoherent or discontinuous in one or multiple instances and therefore that would proof that there is no God. Since I believe that God exists I subsequently believe that the universe and principle guiding it are perfectly comprehensive, given sufficiently enough thought.
wow so cool let me guess, it just so happens that the true God with capital G revealed his moral precepts to your favorite sandnigger tribe whose following tradition you just so happen to have been raised in since birth, how lucky!!the #1 historical killer of spirituality are religious people
>>523873190>If Pharao's heart was already hard, then it would not be necessary for god to harden it.God gives you what you want. you go against God he will lead you all the way.>are you saying killing a giant is not a murder?giants were human/angel hybrids that corrupted all flesh before the flood. do you want to be ruled by megalomaniacs and give your daughters to them to have them raped?>>523873362reincarnation is such a stupid meme. what a pathetic trick of satan you fall for.
>>523863769> believe it is arroganceYour entire position is dripping with arrogance. And avoidance, since you purposely avoid the truth and like to generalise. Sad. Man thinks he’s wise as he walks around with a cloud over his head.
>>523873654More avoiding the questions and excusing your god
>>523873887I dont have to excuse God. what he says stands by its own. our human emotions dont mean crap.
>>523873654There is no point arguing with these people; they do not want truth. Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs.Love you.
>>523863487God is evil if real, Don't care.
>>523866657>meaningIt doesnt make much difference if you find meaning in suffering or you dont. It compels you to do some works at one time or another, but ultimately they do not count. Zero.
>>523866945You fail to realize that all things play a part in the environment, and what you consider (at an affront to your own self image and dignity) to be nothing more than a destructive mold, instead plays a very important GENERATIVE role in the earth and in the heavens, just as mold exists for its own god-given reason.Your lack of faith in your own inner light is what will keep you permanently under jewish control.
>>523863487>faith>rationalYou should leave this discussion to people that understand words.To say nothing of faith being functionally worthless to those that have moved past it. What need have I of faith? God is.
I'd like a membership to the church of naked moms. Please.
Why doesn't God tell everyone at least once it their life that they can repent through Christ and join him in Heaven?Why does God allow animals to suffer?Why does God allow children to suffer?Why does God require some species to consume the flesh of other animals to live?
>>523874603Hot
>>523874729>animalsAnimals don't have eternal souls, they only have the breath of life that makes them a living being.
>>523874826>source: some jews fat ass
>>523863487Finnish flag? Hopium.
>>523863487>Without God, meaning and morality do not have an objective groundingWhat do you mean by objective grounding? Morality is not objective, different cultures have very different ideas on right and wrong. What you're claiming is that you and people that believe exactly what you believe hold objective morality. The statment contradicts it's seld when viewed in a global context.Pretty much all of morality is based on a societal requirement. Take women as an example. Why were they excluded from violence and war? Because 1 woman can become pregnant once every 9 months and 1 man can make many women pregnant at the same time. Low numbers of women means the death of the tribe, low numbers of men can be recovered. So we instinctively protect women and that becomes a shared moral framework globally. It's not a holy demand, it's economics. It's the same reason why "thou shall not kill" is a commandment. Population growth has always been generally deemed as a good thing. Language is another factor, language was developed before religion. If people were inherently evil liars why would we develop language and civilisation?It things like this why people believe there is a holy guide, because there are parallels. People just forgot or don't think about why they are shared.>If there's a small chance vs 0 change you take the small chanceThis is a fallacy. I could tell you fairies exist at the bottom of your garden and they're responsible for all your lost socks. You have no evidence to disprove it, there is a greater than 0% chance of it being true therefore you have to believe me. It's only logical, right? What if billions of people believe it to be true? Does that change anything? I'm very sorry. I know some people genuinely need religion. You might be afraid that the world is completely out of control, or that you lack a purpose. If you understood just how large and complex everything is you would be crushed. I want you to know I don't hate you.
>>523874826>dUDE, everything is made up of space rocks!!>No, not us! That would be so silly.
I wish to believe in Jesus because it fits all the definitions of what God is, but it seems complex and might be wrong. One, the divinity of Christ was not universal among Christians until the Creed. Even among his disciples, only John and Peter are clear in their belief that he is God. Others called him the Son of God, but that does not mean he is God; it was merely a term used by Jews at the time to denote a high rank, not God. So any verse or passage that says this does not mean God.Also, you have the three main denominations and thousands of sub-denominations. How are you meant to know which one is the correct one?>Listen to the Holy SpiritThey all say that. If the Holy Spirit guided us, there would only be one proper denomination, because God would not want to create complications and conflict.If the Bible is the word of God, it should not have taken a few hundred years after Jesus ' death to conclude that he is God.The God of Islam is most certainly not the true God for obvious reasons.Hindu neither.Buddhism is basically non-theisticThe Sikhs seem to have it down, but I gravitate towards Christianity due to God being very personal with you. I just don't see how :(Any Christian anons help?
>>523873654>reincarnation is such a stupid meme.its not and its a lot dumber thinking a brown jewish subhuman will eventually show up here and give you free shit.now thats retarded, possibly the most retarded shit ever.
>>523874826>have random thought of what it would be like to not have a soul>sudden bout of gleeUh...that's gonna take some digestion...
>>523874381>You fail to realize I dont fail at anything, I'm also a lot smarter than you could ever hope to be.>instead plays a very important GENERATIVE roleyes mold/bacteria have an important role.doesnt require a fake jewish God tho
>>523874936>>523875042It is right there in Genesis, only Humans were made in His image and is why Humans have a special connection to God. The spirits of animals are not meant to be like us and do not follow the same rules. Muslims take it to retarded levels by calling everything they don't like dirty just because dogs scare them.
>>523875244>uses the jewish line>thinks it is in any way likely to be trueNarcissism is not a German trait.
Rolling for some satanic numbers to hopefully wipe out all of the useless, annoying christscum, god willing.
>>523874826Why is it fair to them to have such horrible lives, some live for only a week as a certain insect, others are born and die in a factory that harvests their meat. Some animals drown to death because they did not have the means to swim. Some bite into a wire only to electrocute to death, how could they ever know it was dangerous?Animals are capable of love, and empathy, and enjoy life, my parakeet liked to listen to music before she died.So me children are born with deformities that ruin their life.Some kids get murdered before they could be baptized or repent through Christ.Some kids were not even taught how to read, how could they know what the Bible says? Why is it that a mother must experience the pain of a still birth?Is this somehow are apart of God's plan?
>>523875364To answer your question, we are also suppossed to suffer and live harsh lives. it is our nature to only be at our best after we have experienced hardship, this is part of our curse to debase ourselves with sin.
>>523875525"Hardship" is not "suffering."
>>523875783If you don't consider the two the same thing then you and I are seperated by language.
>>523863487Reincarnation does not require God to exist, just a system, likely an agent based simulation, to grow over cycles.
All we can do is dance to the dream of a madlad
>>523875948The joke is that the dictionary calls them synonyms but refutes itself with a definition.>separated by languageIndeed.
>>523863487Having children is the meaning of life. Hindus, Muslims know this but Christians let feminism take it away from the West. That's why we're fucked.
>>523875312>uses the jewish linewhat jewish line?
>>523876398>I can't readImagine proving me right in your next retarded post.
>>523863487> "Without God, meaning and morality do not have an objective grounding"This is you stating a personal opinion as if it were a proven fact. I stopped reading right there.
>>523876747>proving me rightyou are a christcuck jew slave, so you are wrong about everything.
>>523877109Hey, it's not my fault you can't read. If anything, you should be thanking Christianity for the spread of literacy.Not by direct action, of course. But that's too complex for you.
>>523877309you sound like a butthurt christcuck
>>523877457>you soundIf the only thing you can hear when being mocked is whining, you are functionally nonverbal. Feel free to go back to your poo pile.
If God is an all-knowing and all powerful being. Why would he bother doing anything at all? He would know the outcome before he even thought of it.
>>523877666why bother Creating anything at all? It was sort of an accident... "God" didn't know what would happen beforehand.
>>523878069So, god isnt all-knowing? What a cop-out.
>>523863487Meh, I like honor, courage, commitment better. "Faith" sounds like a whore who works at a truck stop in ohio.
Okay, now which god? The one Abraham followed? circumcision is pure evilany god that requires it is falseand if your prophet didn't explicitly denounce it, then he was a false profit (jesus)>you deny God, you lose the right to claim that objective value, meaning, or purpose exist, or that something is right or wrongyes, I agreethere is no meaning to life, right and wrong are imaginary conceptsif circumcision is allowed, so is incest, bestiality, murder, etc. There is no afterlife>But you cannot rule out the possibility of God either by default, because of cause and effect, and symmetry and order, etc.yes, for cause and effect to be consistent there must be an initial causebut now you need to show that the initial cause is still present, is sentient, and knows of you presenceif there is a god it's not going to be something humans understand from "ancient" texts
>>523877562all I see is a seething christcuck
>>523878123he has a blind-spot
>>523878834Then you'll be happy to know that you have identified precisely zero features inherent to my person.The fuck did you think I was mocking you for? Competence?
>>523863487You don't love god, you're just afraid of going to hell.
>>523878904>I was mocking youI didnt notice, looked like christcuck seething to me.
>>523863487>Without God, meaning and morality do not have an objective groundingGod is a subjective creation. With God, meaning and morality become subjective.
>>523879032>functionally nonverbal man(tentative classification, debatable, hedge eunuch) thinks repetition of inaccuracy will improve accuracyYou are, clearly, very smart.
>>523863487One day you'll grow up and realize abrahamic religions are an assault on logic. You're not as smart as you think.
>>523863487I believe that the Bible should be classified as religious fraud and treated the same as other types of fraud. You couldn’t go around telling people you have the cure for cancer and selling it to them based on lies and false history/studies. Likewise, we shouldn’t tolerate religious scams in that same way. Serious countries shouldn’t allow all open frauds to be committed against their people and this is no different.At the very least, it's a moral hazard to teach that death could be a better thing than life. The idea of heaven, an individualist outcome, separates people from duty to their family, neighbors and nation on whom their own existence depends.
>>523879148> God is a subjective creation. With God, meaning and morality become subjective.This is false idolatry. You worship yourself as God, and believe you are the creator of meaning and morality under the guise of subjectivity. Outside of being blasphemy, it is simply wrong. You will not find meaning in your own creation, and selfishness is not a good morality.As a former heretic, you will soon find that when you believe yourself a God, it becomes confounding that you do not have the power of God. You will not get what you "deserve". Ever. You will come to learn that your selfishness is harmful, not only to others you have sinned against, but to yourself. God is not subjective. I pray you learn this sooner rather than later. I did much harm before I did.
I’ve struggled with religion all of my life. God is still such a mystery to me. I guess no one truly knows until they die. Maybe that’s the real victory though, making peace with the fact that you’ll never truly have an answer in this lifetime.
>>523879676>believe you are the creator of meaning and moralityNo I don't claim to be the creator of morality, morality is contextual and derived from reality.If God is not subjective how come if you ask random human beings in different points in time and different cultures who their God is, you get a bunch of different answers?The OPs logic is that the choice with the highest chance is the correct one and it's obvious God is a cope that is transversal to many different cultures that's why it's always a different God which proves it's subjective.
>>523863487Am I to believe that nothing happened, and then suddenly everything exists? That something comes from nothing? This violates causality. Where did this universe come from? Another universe? And where did that come from? Another universe? Is it a line of infinite universes all the way backwards through time? This violates causality. Since causality cannot explain our existence we must acknowledge that reality exceeds the limits of causality. This angers the cult of atheism because causality is supposed to be a philosophical and practical bulwark against the existence of God. With that notion removed, it seems silly to believe that the life, and our universe more generally, is the product of chance.
>>523880175Because subjectivity by definition means in the opinion of a given individual. It is the opposite of objectivity. God's will is not impacted by an individual, nor is it subjectively interpreted and applied.
>>523880407>blind man insists water evaporates spontaneously because light is fake and gayStop throwing strawmen at strawmen, faggot.
>>523863487God is a fucking asshole who made everything the way it is. And who still allows it to continue. Let that sink in. Life isn't beautiful its a horrible corrupt toxic dump everywhere you go. And god allows it. Day on day out
>>523863487Watching that kid get stabbed earlier this week really made me question the existence of God. It happens everyday too. Where was God? Where was a miracle? I thought the bible said that the protection of children was important and that no one should harm kids but that guy did, he killed a kid. God can feed a bunch of people food when he wants to but lets the world starve? God is not consistent
>>523880574Yea you are an individual with opinions and one of your opinions is to believe in a certain God.How could you as a subject understand "God's will" other than by subjectively interpreting it? That's why there are thousands of different Gods.
