Is Musk right? Are Americans too weak and fat to do hard work like real men?"America has a major shortage of people who can do challenging physical work or who even wish to train to do so."https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1990125395748802705
>>523867714END THE H1-B PROGRAM
>>523867714>create 4 year course to get qualified as <insert trade>>bunch of other certs, insurance, etc before can legally work>10% of what you learnt is actually relevant to the job50+ years ago you could do these jobs pretty much straight away with on the job trainee ships/apprenticeships.
He's either lying or being willfully ignorant to defend his class interest
>>523867939YOU FUCKING COMMIE REEEEEEEEEEEE
Musk is wrong yet again, theres no mechanics because affirmative action prevented White people ever becoming anything at all.
>>523867714Musk's lie was already exposed. They just want cheap labor. Why else would he be paying his H1B visa workers 70k rather than US engineers who get at least 100k? And he wants the exceptional ones so they should be starting at 150k-200k per year. You don't see him talking about it anymore once that was exposed. As for Ford, mechanics? So not factory workers? Because your shit cars break down so often? The same problem we have had for decades, these companies don't want to train because once trained they will leave for a competitor. Just make them sign some NDA clause where they can be sued for thousands if they work for another automotive company within 4-5 years of leaving Ford.
>>523867714Yea we can’t do manual labor and we can’t do intellectual labor. We’re obsolete.
>>523867939This.
>let me tell you about challenging physical labor
If they were at a shortage, then get to training people right now. But they won't. They should be looking into spending money at high school workshop and mechanic classes, trying to recruit young people to go to their training programs. Give out mechanic scholarships at high school and college levels. But they won't. They are just LYING and want CHEAP labor. Has nothing to do with skilled anything. They would have invested in programs for them already.
>>523867714Do you think the CEO of a global corporation might say something that is misleading in order to increase his company's profit by reducing labor costs?
>>523867714your mom is challenging physical work
>>523867714Ford and all major automotive manufactures spend decades turning skilled craftsmen jobs into joyless assembly line work. When they ask for a "mechanic", they aren't talking about they guy that knows how cars work and can fix it, he's talking about someone that polls their janky computers and blindly replaces whatever parts that the computer told them to, whether it made legitimate sense or not. Farley now complains that young people for the last decade decided that coding seemed like a better job. Musk just doesn't want to pay what work is worth.
>>523867939Yeah, but once those people become competent, they can demand better pay/benefits or even leave and work for someone else! That's why this country needs an army of exploitable H1B slaves, who either submit completely to their employers or get booted back to the shithole they crawled out of.
>>523867714While true it's not like Ford cars are easy to repair or maintain anyways. Whoever designed those shits must be hanged with all the absolute bullshit going on
>>523867714Yeah I’m sure there’s a shortage and it’s not just more attempts to justify infinite jeets. I love challenging physical jobs. I always strive to be the best at everything I do. Wanna guess how far that’s gotten me? Absolutely nowhere. My company just gave me a 31 cent raise for being the top performer in my entire department. That’s just over 1.5% or 12 dollars a week. Maybe if companies paid better they would have no shortage of applicants.
>>523867714>canwill. I could do the most challenging of jobs, but why would I when I can make more scratching my ass all day?
That's ironic coming from the pussy who ducked out of a fight with Mark Zuckerberg of all people.
>>523867714I work at a Toyota plant and the reason we can’t fill jobs is because we do pre employment drug screens using hair tests and very few people can pass them. It’s incredibly retarded. They just fired like 10 guys on a random drug test even though we have a shortage. I make good money but it’s becoming not worth it when I’m doing the work of 5 people because the retards running the show keep looking for excuses to fire or turn down workers.
>>523867714> America has a major shortage of people who can do challenging physical work>imports pajeets
>>523867714I work a blue collar job that pays 300k and people still won't do it
>>523867714Pay up nigger, no one is building shit for $17/hr.
>>523870220>doing the work of 5 peopleAre you not UAW?
>>523869050>They just want cheap labor.And how is this a bad thing, commie?
>>523870354Blue collar guys in high-demand professions can make as much as doctors
>>523867714so now instead of no healthcare you're gonna have no healthcare AND to work a laborious job
>>523870351And what job would that be?
>>523870351i'll do it
>>523870441because Americans aren't the source of that cheap labor?
>>523870541The one where a little mistake will cause you to explode into 1000 tiny pieces>>523870559You have to work the overtime to get it. Driving trucks is much nicer and still pays really good at like 130k
>>523870351drug dealer doesn't count, faggot
>>523870766idc, i'll do it. what is it?
>>523870742As long as the corporations are making record profits, the nationality doesn't matter. Profits above all else.
>>523867714>$120k a yearyeah if you can replace a radio in 2hrs where you have to rip out the entire dash to get to it.
>muh work hard earn more>the richest people are rich because of investments, stocks, bonds, everything jews are into>even some white trash migger can win big just by gambling or the lotteryI thought pole was against boomer idealogies?
>>523870943ok jew
>>523867714>no attempt at training the young onesI do it all the time. Funny how big gay companies can't figure it out.
>>523871020Jews hate capitalism and want communism. If Jews had their way, these corporations wouldn't even exist.
>>523871183Sure, Jew. Whatever you have to tell yourself.
>>523870851it's niche so I dont wanna dox>>523870834nope its honest work
>>523871183yeah, not a single jew in capitalismjews like Larry Ellison are currently buying up companies to push a MIGA narrative.
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>>523871274yeah, i totally believe you, you deceitful kike
>>523871230>>523871295Nice try, Chaim. Meanwhile capitalism has its roots firmly in European thinkers.
>>523870969>the richest people are rich because of investments, stocks, bondsEveryone can do that. It's actually piss-easy to get rich off a middle class income.You just have to wait
>>523871358The jew is really desperate to make it seem like he isn't a jew. That's funny.
>>523867714does sucking dick count as challenging physical work? Trumpers already do it for free
>>523867714And yet the pay is still fucking trash.
>>523867714>America has a major shortage of people who can do challenging physical workjust use ai for it
>>523871183Holy fuckballs.
>>523867714HR lady hires a bunch of retarded immigrantsmanagement fires all of themthey have meetingsthey conclude that i guess theres just no workers out theremeanwhile HR lady instantly deleted every email from john smiths with 15 years experience being whatever was exactly what they were looking for
>>523870220>because the retards running the show keep looking for excuses to fire or turn down workers.you think that's new.hilarious
>>523867714Outlaw unions. There is no reason that I need to play fucking high school politics because i want to build houses. No shit, I'd rather do a different job. Every trade union is a self hurting cycle of faggots powertripping on faggots causing more powertripping faggots, and it's all bundled up with the retard woman-coded union laws, so that actual white men who want to work are froced into humilation rituals non-stop.
>>523867714I believe it. I used to work in landscaping for a decade. My boss had a policy of only hiring Americans. You know how hard it was to field a crew every year for simple grass cutting in the spring, summer and fall and leaf removal in fall? Damn near impossible. I live in Ohio. I offered young guys a bunch of skills and enough money to live on their own in a house or apartment along with a car and all that jazz. Most Americans are fat fucking slobs who can't put in a 10 hour day. We had to settle for hiring near criminal element blacks who were always starting shit with me, "the old white guy". America is cooked.
>>523867714Americans are too lazy to cook and think it's the president's fault that they can't afford fast food as a dietary staple anymore.Not being able to lift 50lbs and performing their duties without accommodation is practically etched onto the resumes.
>>523871654Unions protect against all of that tard.
>>523871703you're a failure for doing that job as an old white guy when mexicans do it at age 7 and don't bitch like you
>>523871230Are you retarded or something? Capitalism is people fighting against jews. Communism is just jews running the government hiring jewish "experts" while the proletariat dies in the fields hungry and alone.
>>523871654>Outlaw unions.
>>523871654>Outlaw unionsnojust outlaw GOVERNMENT unions. they should not exist.we have every right to FREELY ASSOCIATE (fucking Civil Rights Act hypocrisy notwithstanding).unions used to be about whites stopping the insertion of cheap shitskin workers. an attempt to bring in slaves for menial labor.
>>523867714Auto repair is one of the scammiest careers in existence.>Half pay for warranty work>Flat rate scam system>Must work on all comebacks for free>Must provide own tools>Must provide own PPE>No customers? No pay.>Will physically destroy your bodyAll for an hourly rate you could make working at Costco. Search "why mechanics are quitting" on youtube.
>>523867714in the 70s american companies came to norway to help us extract the oil we found in the oceanmy fathers generation would literally just walk up to these americans in a parking lot and shake their hand and ask them in broken english if they could have a job and they would say yesmeanwhile fast forward to my generation, you need 2 years trade school, you need a safety course, you need a clean medical, you need to fill out a bunch of insurance paperwork etc and also oil fields are being closed down because muh environmenti wanna kill boomers so fucking bad
>>523871821damn, now there's two of them. This is getting out of hand.Go away jews. Your tricks won't work here.
>>523871821>Capitalism is people fighting against jewsthe problem with the word Capitalism is the Jew money printer.you mean Free Market under Rule of Law (no Jew hair splitting)
>>523871738Could it be that Danny DeVito was historically discriminated against in the NBA for a good and valid reason?
>>523871883Moshe, please.
120k is with major OT, if you're a "mechanic" in the plant you're getting ground to dust. If you're in a dealer you're getting shorted more and more every year by Mr ford there shaving book time and warranty pay. Most of the auto programs are lacking new and advanced tech. MF tried teaching about points ignition and carbs in like 2018. The flex teams at some of the corporate design sites COULD get trained in the new stuff but the local politics with out of touch b##mers spoil the whole thing.
>>523871836Corporations and unions are both government sanctioned legal fictions. The "conflict" between the two is pure uniparty controlled opposition. Corporations are literally unions and unions are literally corporations.
>>523871821Yes, the historically money grubbing race that invented usury is totally communists
>>523871974>no uclassic jew tactic
>>523871870>you need 2 years trade school, you need a safety course, you need a clean medical, you need to fill out a bunch of insurance paperworkno shitI'm a Steamfitterthe most deaths are those who have only been working for under six months.you fucking retard. we need to make sure you aren't going to walk into a pit while you are on your fucking phone
>>523870220San Antonio?
>>523871976>120k is with major OTUPS drivers are at $48/hr. Their sleeper teams top out at $70/hr. OT out the wazoo.This is why all Americans need to unionize
>>523870220I assume that, despite the shortage, pay never goes up?
>>523867714The NFL doesn't seem to have a problem finding guys who can do challenging physical work
>>523871782No, they most certainly do not. I cannot go work at another Union if my union is retarded. I cannot start my own union if my union is retarded. I cannot even enter the field if my union is retarded.>source my union is a regional monopoly for electricians (and most other trades to the point there's protests if someone even hires non-union labor). I gave up on the apprentice ship after endless shit tests from retarded boomers trying to degrade every noobie because unions work on seniority alone, not merit, so every oldfag gets this god-emperor feeling when he just stops caring and the union does fuck all. It does not matter if you work 3 times harder than a retarded boomer. He gets to sit on his ass, make your job miserable, and do literally nothing because the unions don't do anything but extract money from companies.
>>523872009>Corporations and unions are both government sanctioned legal fictions. The "conflict" between the two is pure uniparty controlled opposition. Corporations are literally unions and unions are literally corporations.you said nothing of value. I'm aware that any legal fiction is an incorporation.there is a problem for workers at a fixed location. skilled workers are not tied down to specific machines or factories. government unions are for Americans a 4th branch of government. that's evil. an easy mark for installing foreign and political spies. the President must not be fettered by moronic rules that prevent clearing out even whole swaths of disloyal scum.
>>523872067a fucking leaf
>NOBODY WANTS TO DO Xnobody wants to do x for the compensation offered, and white men, the ones most likely to train for physical skilled labor, are filtered out anyway because of their race and sexhttps://archive.is/EdTBb
>>523871883>erm he's making actual arguments about the fundamentals of my thought process. better nigger out and call him a jew. ahh, old reliableFuck off retard.>>523872049Nothing is more jew pilled usury core than the communist quota. Everything you produce will be milked and you will own nothing. aka. a jewish utopia.
>>523871952Whites have been historically oppressed and discriminated against based on their skin color. So yes.
>>523870351DOUBT.EXE
>>523872192everything i described is within a union environment depending on where they are. ideally union shops should be shooting for 65 as an average wage after 4 years. the corps can afford it, Unions need to be better about training and capturing emerging tech. Currently the old fucks are holding on to key positions of power still.
>>523872337I support real Norwegians
>>523867714For people that don’t understand when they’re talking about “labor”>there’s more than enough labor in the US>what they’re referring to is cheap labor that has shaky citizenship>telling them that they should just pay Americans is akin to public Holocaust denialThe only thing socialists do right is keep these greedy kikes in check. Shame they can’t stop worshipping niggers.
>>523872567>Unions need to be better about training and capturing emerging techDEI has been forced on skilled unions as well. it's not just the business and retail world.shitskins everywhere. it's fucking awful
There should just be one centralized jobs board where companies can lay out exactly what they need, it connects with training services that will verify that you've completed them, and once you have those certifications you're hired quickly. Also, have some mechanism to penalize companies if they a) get a bunch of people who fulfill those requirements and still refuse to hire them or b) lay out ridiculous, unnecessary requirements that are obviously just intended to justify hiring an H1-B or constitute a "phantom posting" they're not expecting anyone to fill. 95% of the "skills shortage" / "nobody is willing to work" problem is that it's a Kafkaesque nightmare trying to figure out what arbitrary list of hoops you need to jump through to satisfy each individual HR department's inscrutable demands to be hired, even though there are plenty of people with the competency and work ethic to fulfill them if it was actually laid out clearly for them what they have to do
>>523872569of course you dothat guy is an oslo faggot, probably shares a lot of opinions with you
>>523872481What argument? This conversation itself is a shitpost.If you have an actual argument to make, make one. Otherwise don't pretend this is anything other than shitflinging.
>>523872067People don't realize:A. how dangerous these jobs areB. how retarded and lacking common sense the average person has becomeA lot of guys ITT would kill themselves on the job and wonder why they don't have access to the big boy jobs making six figures in the union
>>523872668thanks Digital ID faggotnow kill yourself
>>523872678>that guy is an oslo faggot, probably shares a lot of opinions with youyou shitskineven if you are not shitskin. Anders did Norway a fucking favor by killing the future of your Communist Party and lots of shitskins pegged for government power positions.
>>523867714maybe Musk should consider hiring Americans so they can get the experiencei swear nepobabies can only think in short term gratification
>>523867714Give me fucking welfare, insurance, EBT, and HUD vouchers like your fucking immigrants and I'll do your grunt work you fucking faggot.
>>523867714Had this thread about a month ago. Checked and most of those jobs payed around $20 an hour and were in crackhead shithole nigger run cities.I don't think there was a more than a few hundred offers either and of course just having an ad doesn't mean its real.Its been well documented that companies put up fake ads in order to import more foreigners and lobby the government for more kickbacks/browns.
>>523872798>did Norway a fucking favor by killing the future of your Communist PartyHello, rabbi.
>>523867714Wouldn't it be more cost effective and ethical to have job training for Americans? Even if it included home economics courses and physical fitness courses.
>>523872245>they most certainly do not.I've been apart of two different unions and they both protected and served me well. They have saved me from anti-white discrimination and completely insulated us from woke bullshit.
>>523872567>union shops should be shooting for 65 as an average wage after 4 yearsI agree we should always be pushing the envelope but I think the focus should be more on work-life balance than straight pay and OT.I want fat pensions, 4+ weeks vacation TO START, and all overtime becomes voluntary.
>>523872718i worked on a fishing boat in the north seayou people are cubicle workers compared to us
Isnt it funny the musks were a big to do family in a failing state of south africa ...now him and his other s african buddy david sachs are big to do families here in a declining stateWill musk family move australia next...
>>523872974it helps if you're in a based area, but unions are too easily subverted. their revenue machine revolves around skimming the businesses actually making the money, so they face 0 penalty for making deliberately retarded decisions. You'd be better off under a Chad business owner, but you're lucky because you have a based union. In libshit retard land, the unions are gay men arguing with you for the most meaningless shit.
>>523873132Also make overtime 3x the base pay and anything after 12 hours is 10x.
>>523867714>man who hasn't done a single day of real work in his life>telling others they're too lazySometimes I envy narcissists.
>>523870375>toyota >UAWprobably not union
>>523873712>>523873395>>523873339>>523873132>>523872974Musk arrived in Canada at 17, with little more than the shirt on his back and started working in the harsh conditions of rural Saskatchewan. In those days it was basically the Wild West. He was miles from civilization. At one point a huge blizzard took the power out for over a week. Young Musk had to get through the freezing conditions living off of canned food and keeping the fire going as long as possible.A 17 year old boy, Elon Musk arrived in Canada with a bag full of books and clothes, he worked on his Mom's cousin's in Saskatchewan for six weeks, that's where he had his 18th birthday."That whole experience gave me great respect for farmers, they work hard to put food on everyone's table."https://x.com/iam_smx/status/1898781789554180536But Musk’s hardest job during his time in Canada was working in a lumber mill’s boiler room. After asking at the unemployment office which job paid the most, Musk took on a grueling gig that paid $18 an hour – good money for 1989, but at a steep cost.The work was exhausting and dangerous, involving crawling through small tunnels wearing a hazmat suit to “shovel [sand and goop] through the same hole you came through.” The conditions were so tough that most workers didn’t last long. According to Musk, out of 30 people who started the job with him, only five were left by the third day. By the end of the week, just Musk and two others were still shoveling.https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-spent-teen-years-143036203.html
>>523873731Women look really rough with short hair.
>>523867714Nah. America has a shortage of chuds willing to do back breaking labor for peanuts.PAY US, WE WILL WORK.We know you wont, so we wont.
>>523871738I’m assuming your parents still buy your groceries or something. A medium-sized roast costs $70, a single white onion costs $3, carrots cost like $7 a bag now. Potatoes are still cheap, but cooking at home is not cheaper than ordering a pizza unless you’re "cooking" crap like ramen, hotdogs, and Kraft Dinner or something that is no healthier than fast food.
>>523867714>$120K>for challenging physical workimagine breaking your back and becoming disabled for less than half of GDP (38T) per household (120M), 300K
>>523873932Yes and he has ZERO concern for being actually homeless and destitute.I did that stupid shit too in my 20s.Big fucking whoopdee.
>>523873339>i worked on a fishing boat in the north seamy dad unironically worked on king crab boats in Alaska>>523873396Unions are no better than the people that make them up. If your Union is rotten it's because the people are rotten.
>>523873339Jesus Christ.High turnover rate or what?
>>523873712>man who hasn't done a single day of real work in his lifeFound the commie.
>>523867714The real issue is that the ~2500 Ford dealerships in the country aren't getting their warranty repair work done quickly enough and blaming it on the fact that they don't have enough Ford Certified Master Technicians, which Ford requires for certain repair work to be covered by the warranty. There aren't enough Ford Certified Master Technicians to do all of that repair work, because it takes at least 5-10 years of education, training, certifications, and on the job experience fixing various systems and subcomponents, getting paid much less than $120k, and having to compete with a much greater number of people who are also qualified for those entry level positions.And even the Master Technicians aren't actually going to earn that $120k wage, because that is just the theoretical maximum yearly pay for Certified Master Technician working at the specified book rate (or faster) for every procedure for 40 hours a week, every single week per year.
>>523867714these are the boomers who dropped out. there will be no one to replace them, tough luck.dont give a shit.
the millennials and zooms who were made to starve by the boomer fucks surely dont give a fuck to become a mechanic or anything else for you shitfuck asshole suckers. fucken die ohh youre allready dead.thats good.
>>523874389i guess, didnt really stay long enough to get a lot of dataone of the guys i was with said one of his previous boats had sunk and they didnt notice they were sinking until the boat was almost filled with water. they have these massive thick suits that they put on if the boats sink because regular wet suits or dry suits wont keep you warm long enough for them to rescue youhe said they barely had time to put on the suits and escaped through a window. one of the guys he was there with hasnt worked since, if they dont rescue you quick enough you just freeze to death eventually
>>523869050>Just make them sign some NDA clause where they can be sued for thousandsOr treat the workers better, which this is the opposite of
>>523872947And civics lessons.
>>523872919>>did Norway a fucking favor by killing the future of your Communist Party>Hello, rabbi.which part of killing shitskins and marxists pro-Jew?
>>523867714Could just let the free market actually be a free market and let companies fail that don't kickstart their own apprenticeship programs, but that's expensive for the company so It'll never happen
>>523873407>make overtime 3x the base payDoubletime is better IMO. Doubletime incentivizes them to provide better work/life balance but they won't go insane trying to prevent guys who want OT from getting it.Tripletime will just tip the balance a bit too far so that they'd rather hire more people who won't get enough hours. UPS has a thing called 9.5 grievances over this and it's made things very hostile.
>>523867714It's the fucking HR wall....TONS of qualified candidates are applying to jobs. They get screened out because HR has been given insane veto power over whether or not candidates get an interview.At best, they should be skimming resumes to send to the relevant hiring manager.Instead, they're conducting first interviews themselves. Nobody has anything to say to fucking HR before an interview... They want to know about the job, not discuss holiday parties or whatever the fuck. There's literally no reason for HR to be this involved in the process, much less conducting first interviews. The know nothing about the job and just dismiss any candidate they aren't attracted to or think won't elevate their social status somehow.
>>523875081>Posts a bunch of capitalist entities>"It's da gommies!"Gotta do better than that, Chaim.
>>523875359>HRThe union equivalent of that is the Steward but he fights FOR you against the company.This is why the Jew has made it his top priority to destroy Unions.
>>52386793950 years ago they couldn't build high tech stuff like iphones.
>>523868141Lmao
Musk licked too much STD-ridden rockstar snizz. He... may never recover. No one ever has.
>>523869827100% this. He’s not talking a one autoshop mechanics but soulless assembly line automotive shit
>>523875359dude its literally so simple. 1. use a website and input your CV info into a girly and pretty font format, not that boomer tabular shit. 2. Make their pussy tingle and be charming and personable in the personality interview
>>523875481Your iPhone has the computing capability of a laptop from 2008. And uneducated Chinese people in iPhone factories are doing just fine. In conclusion, you a dumb, consuming, big tech apologist that deserves to get genocided by jeets.
>>523867714average wage of a car mechanic is 42k a yearyou have to buy about 100k in toolsyou have to buy insurance on tools because you have 100k in toolsrepair time is set by the manufacturerthe manufacturer hires jeets to engineer and design shitthe engineering is dogshit so something that should take 1 hour to fix takes 5 but the manufacturer says it only takes 1 hourso you work for 5, but only get paid for 1the dealer charges 220 dollars an hour for labor they pay you 20 dollars and pocket the 200 the secretary is paid more than you gee I wonder why no one becomes a car mechanic
>>523867714We were doing fine until Musk and company deported all the el salvadorans
>>523868060>>523867939>>523867825>>523867714>Mechanic >"Challenging physical labor"Oyy vey this industrial cranes push button is so hard to press inOyyyy GEVALT! This impact wrench is just soooo heavy
So they're training people right?
>>523875885>you have to buy about 100k in toolsyour very second sentence you outted yourself as a jew
>>523871703>My boss had a policy of only hiring Americans. You know how hard it was to field a crew every year for simple grass cutting in the spring, summer and fall and leaf removal in fall? Damn near impossible.As I homeowner, I trust White only companies if they are boomers--especially owner owned ones that have no employees. Those guys are awesome. But white zoomers? Nah they are lazy fucks who cut corners and trash the site. Give me some hardworking mexicans any day.
>>523872067survival of the fittest you fucking retardjeets would die offi had a friend whos dad worked on oil rigs as an engineer in the persian gulfhe said they'd hire jeets and sometimes the jeets would shove their arms in the drill to get their arms amputated because the payout was worth it from their point of view
>>523874119Beef is tariffed. Buy stuff that isn't imported.
>>523867714Bullshit. I have worked for OEMs for 30 years at the executive level. Of course in the beginning, it helped your career as a exec if you were known as "a car guy" and you could pull out a flawless American muscle car for Dream Cruise. Ford employee with a Mopar? No problem as long as it ran like a top. It also means you could solve problems in the paint systems and assembly areas. I kept coveralls in my company sedan just to remind the union guys that management knows how to keep the line running and a MBA didn't mean you forgot how to weld and paint. We were in the industry because we loved making cars. I'd be wrenching in a clean dealership shop tomorrow if they were paying this amount. I am excellent with Fords and most German makes. 1) Today's mechanics suck. They swap parts, they don't diagnose anything. 2) Ford spent the last five years trying to force dealerships to buy their overpriced EV service setup, not training mechanics. 3. Too busy not hiring Whites in Detroit or anywhere else. Go hire some blacks and infinity H1B jeets to charge $400 for an ATF flush and change. It's hard to run a service shop when the mechanics stop what they are doing 5x a day to bend over for mecca. Girl jobs and not required to sweat it out in a plant. This is the result. No plan for the future, no trades pipeline. This is what the Ford's first electronic transmission looks like. Would you know how to read the codes? 1993 is before ODB2. I never even worked for Ford.
>>523867714>when your 120k job is opening is actually a 300k job without slavery
>>523867714when i did hard physical work my boss payed me $40 less than prevailing wage and im never working again.i choose homelessness and death over thateverytime
>>523876095you are the jewyou have to buy retarded proprietary diagnostic tools every couple years that you use a couple timesshops/dealerships don't buy tools for the mechanics instead of buying one stupid proprietary diagnostic gang tool, everyone buys their own car manufacturers design these tools to be proprietary to jew mechanics
>>523867714>challenging physical work>"train" people to do itWell that depends on where the "challenge" lies. Mining is challenging, but you don't need an advanced education to be an effective miner, you just need strong lungs and strong arms. Few jobs on the planet are easy, as in not having any challenges. The issue with Ford is that they are entirely unwilling to train people to do the jobs they supposedly need filled, because that creates future competition and empowers their work force which then in turn means it becomes impossible to underpay nor overwork them. Most men are obsessed with cars, and it isn't difficult to find native born Americans who would be willing to work on cars all day (it's not like you're looking for nuclear physicists or some field that's hyper obscure, it's cars). It seems that Ford is entirely unwilling to make necessary concessions that would allow the company to retain employees. >>523875359The CEO of a company is directly in charge of staffing their own HR departments. If HR is the problem, then it's because the company actively is not looking to hire anyone regardless of what said company claims. If they wanted to hire people, and HR wasn't hiring anyone, the CEO would give the HR roastie a dressing down and have the HR department replaced with people who are doing what they're supposed to be doing. There is no disconnect of communication, the HR is doing exactly what they need to else they wouldn't be there.
>>523875359>TONS of qualified candidates are applying to jobs.That's not the issue. The real issue is that for every potentially qualified applicant, there are thousands of completely unqualified jeets and retards with fake degrees and completely fictional resumes spamming literally every possible job listing.All of those applications aren't getting screened by some HR roastie, there are far too many. Instead the use software and AI to try to filter them down and find the good, qualified applicants. But to get rid of all of the jeetslop applications, they end up using filters that are so narrow and restrictive that unless a qualified applicant just happens to use the exact same terms as the filter, all of the qualified applicants get filtered out too.That, or they have an application for an entry level position and get inundated by applications from jeets lying about having 5 years of experience, so then they filter out anyone with less than 10 years of experience, then there are none left because no one who is actually qualified and has 10+ years of experience is going to be applying for some entry level job.Manager asks the HR roastie why they still haven't hired anyone to be the new intern or whatever, and the HR roasties say that they still haven't had any qualified applicants apply for it yet.CEO asks the Manager why the widget production numbers are low, Manager says they don't have enough workers because no one is applying to all of their entry level positions.CEO goes on twitter and says they can't get anyone to work entry level jobs for six figures because the kids these days are lazy and don't want to work.
>>523872067youre not wrong but lets be honest 2 years isnt enough either, standard apprenticeship is 2 years of school roughly and 4 years on the job 7200ish hours. fuckup cant last that long without fucking up so for the most part ONLY qualified people make it. Corporations DO NOT want to have to pay that and wait, they want to dumb everything down and focus more on the cost and speed, not the quality or the members themselves
>>523867714>wish to train to do soBoomers haven't offered on the job training since the 1970s.
>>523867939/Thread
>>523867714most "challenging" physical work doesn't pay shit so no, no one wants to do it
>>523869785kek
>>523869050No point in even worrying about a labor shortage when the vehicle designs are overcomplicated trash.
>>523876160This is very easy to do, in America. Most Americans live closer to local food sources than they know. It just takes a bit of face to face networking and asking questions to find this out.
>>523867714ford penalizes you for doing things better.>i will pay you for 4 hours of labour>find a method to do it in 2 hours>some guy post the new method>changes to billing to 2 hour 30minget fuckedyou join dealership and you basically work for the head mechanic cause his name is on the cars, but you do all the work
Ford is just dying, when an ugly POS ford is 60k and a glorious M performance BMW is 80k nobody is buying the ferdthis is a good thing
there's thousands of ex-cons who would be willing to do this work and they would take these jobs for half the paybut i'm betting these jobs gatekeep them as well even after they've done time
Or they won't because the pay is shit for ruining your body and making onions faces on YouTube makes more
>>523868809>affirmative action prevented White people ever becoming anything at allNigga how? That just sounds like cope some /pol/ chud would say, "nIGgerS aRE prEVEnting WHiteS fRoM HaVIng the deSIrE to tRaIn tO dO hARd WOrk" You just sound like a faggot.
>>523868060He's lying, these companies lie about not finding workers so that they can use cheaper foreign labor. By law they have to tell the government they tried to hire Americans, in reality they have HR shred any American applications.
>>523871703>why won't anybody take up my job offer>manual labor, 10 hour days, weekends mandatoryyou started with the expectations of an entitled cunt instead of being grateful if somebody can do 40 hours
>>523875481The factory builds all the complicated parts of an iphone, chinese kids put the parts together
>>523876887>>manual labor, 10 hour days, weekends mandatoryThis filters out commies and troons.
>>523867714If you remove pension funds,government spending, and government salaries then there's no shortage..Less workers means less for governments... governments keep expanding, along with pension funds...They need more and more tax from workers..Less workers will crash the system..Accelerate..
>>523876962It filters anyone with self-respect. Not even serfs had to work like that.
>>523876962based on his post, it filters out white people in a free country
>>523875412>Gotta do better than that, Chaim.lolI denounce the Talmud and Idumean claims to God's Promise.you fucking ignoramus
>>523867714Test
>>523875481go look up anything dealing with computing manufacturing and they were all white, making enormous amounts of products, and worked 4 hours a day before returning home to a qt3.14 waifu who also worked at the same plant. stfu.
>>523876348This. Yo have to buy a subscription to a service to fake your resume just to get past the ATS and in front of human eyes, which is some lard ass cushion farter grazing on her 3rd lean cuisine of the morning.
>Claims that there are skilled tech positions paying 120,000 a year>Be skilled tech>Apply for a skilled tech positions with 10 years experience under your belt>Every job doesn't list actual salary>"We can offer $15 an hour plus a 10% commission! Oh by the way we specialize in oil changes and tire changes.Two weeks off a year plus Columbus day!">Do some 3rd grade math>Would have to do 31 oil changes/change 6 full sets of tires a day without interruptions or a break to make that.>Spend 2 hours everyday navigating shitty small business inventory/work order system. Can't find no good help anymore I tell you.
>>523867714Oh horse shit. It is always about the wages. If they were compensated competitively, Americans are happy to do hard jobs.
>turning a wrench > physical laborBy that logic using a keyboard is physical labor
I trained to become a diesel mechanic, went to a trade school and earned an associates in heavy vehicle diesel technology with service management. I work on transit buses for a transit company within a medium sized progressive city. I make over six figures a year. It was the best decision I ever made. Im chilling in a house, have a family, and enjoy wholesome recreational activities on my time off.Perusing this thread i guess I am the exception.
>>523876252>you have to buy retarded proprietary diagnostic tools every couple yearsand it's around 5k. Not lmao 100k
>>523867714What he probably means is some kind of temp job during a seasonal rush or something that requires 80+ hours a week but pays like 50
>>523877792You black?
>>523868060He's lying. If that were true nobody would be joining the military.A lot of these tech faggots just don't recruit from the military.Army Corp of Engineers.Construction faggots can pull from them.Enlisted men can fit into a regular construction crew.Officers can get shoved into Civil Engineer or Architect roles. US Army Signal CorpUs Army Cyber CorpFaggots like Elon can pull from them once they're done with their service.
The education system is churning out millions of people who are physically, socially, emotionally, mentally disabled every year. It has been for generations and every generation it gets worse as the retards put in charge of the kids become more retarded with every generation. This is not a question of curriculum, it is a question of methods. Why would you entrust the government with raising your children? This is not to say that the government is deliberately wrecking your children. It is to say with your experience of the MVA, politics, and other forms of government, why would you entrust the government to raise your children in giant batches? Did you think it would do a good job? Do you think that government employees give a shit about your kids? They barely even care about their own appearance. Theyre retards. Your children are being raised by MVA employees and turned into gigantic retarded losers.
>>523878726Yep.
Here is a video of a typical education facility. Do you understand that for generations children have been raised in batches by retarded people?
>>523875481We had mosfet in the 1960's and micro processors in the 70's. It might not be an iphone, but we had already started getting into the digital age 50 years ago.
>>523871274I bet you have a girlfriend in Canada too faggot.
There isn't a shortage, I work in a warehouse throwing 100lb boxes all day.There's a shortage of decent paying jobs.Are you going to destroy your fucking body and ruin it for 13$ an hour?
