>Jeremy Corbyn warns rebels: I'm not going anywhere over Syriahttp://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/nov/29/jeremy-corbyn-warns-rebels-im-not-going-anywhere-syria>Guardian editor, Helen Pidd: "A dismaying number of voters I met in Oldham today can't speak English despite living there a decade or more. But they're voting Labour."https://twitter.com/helenpidd/status/670267569291583488>Diane Abbott: "Mao did more good than harm"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB4o5n2EGyA
>2015 get>links are from 2015
>>523892015Are the rumours about Josh true?
https://youtu.be/HOxwSngUEk8In a couple of years, the world will see the first sneedposter prime minister ever.
>>523892015Morning lads
>>523892850The grift of this guy - imagine who he's sell-out to if he got hold of real power
>>523893235I wrote this... is this real for real? Like am I done for having a wrong idea? Like wrong-think like not under Joseph Goebbels!!!
>>523892015 Ok fine I'll say "Gas the Kikes for real this time" since you're not allowed to on cuck island.
Morning all
>>523895407morning lain other news, oy vey:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBYXDldT-kU
Good morning, Englishmen.
>>523893215True but even Farage getting out the way and not allowing multi cultural behavior eg rapes is an improvement. Hopefully your tranny lover leader will go soon too.
Why bros
>>523892015Seems quite selfish to go on a hunger strike when there are people literally starving and dying through no choice of their own
>>523896209Albanians
>>523892850https://youtu.be/fbWYObXSj34?t=117He speaks a bit of Japanese too
Hayley cropper but irl
I guess it's official brit/pol/ Christmas.
This opinion article is paywalled but archive solves that>https://archive.is/TqSBQhttps://inews.co.uk/opinion/starmer-king-save-political-ruin-hes-wrong-4117078?ITO
Hunger striking is a very privileged first world method of getting a point acrossThere are people, CHILDREN in the world, who'd swap their right arm for a morsel and these selfish privileged cunts are actively choosing to not eat
>>523896999Checked."Hunger strikes" are like ramadan fasting, as soon as the sun is out they eat soups or as the italians call it "minestra" with beans and so forth in order not to starve, look up hunger strikes from US prisoners and the system is the same.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXBGRgwCp6Qsuprised this guy doesnt post here or i dont see him posted hereaussie here we already catching up to you pombros in terms of dystopian freemason bs
>>523897115I don't give a shit, just order some deliveroo kebabs for these cunts and have done with it. Or just let them starve idc desu
>>523892015in for a penny in for a pound
>>523896999You sound like a brown curry nigger. A poo.Pretty sure the king of the poos, ghandi did hunger strikes. Then jews used that as reason to take over control from the British and setup (((democracy))) for poos.One of the worst things jews did after taking control of poos was teaching all the poos to speak English, when they didn't before.
How is the online safety act treating you lads? I got to use VPN to see gifs from imgur which is hilarious. No alternative in sight for at least 4 more years. Grim
Twelve Years a Slag by r Ange
>>523897488>used to use r*ddit to watch harmless videos of ukraine blowing up>now forced onto more dodgy websites for the same content>websites that also feature 8k super slomo up close dolby surround 7.1 beheadings with blunt knives and other brutality At least we're safe now
>Bradford grooming gang wins an award The comments looool
>>523897666>The Tither Who Came For Tea
>https://archive.is/akxT9https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/at-least-three-female-snp-msps-say-they-were-bugged-by-male-aides-5448975The complaing on the article seems that females were "recorded" by males, doesn't say what has been recorded ( if it is corruption, emblezzesment or just obscene ), there are only complaints that it happened.
>>523898043embezzlement*
>on train to London for horse race show>zesty nigger musical poster
And on the topic of niggers behaving badly>A thug who killed a man queuing at Sainsbury's has been given a "paltry" five-year sentence. Demiesh Williams, 30, was sentenced on Thursday (December 18) to five years and three months in prison over the death of "hard-working family man" Andrew Clark.>The 43-year-old died from his injuries after Williams struck him with an open palm following an argument at a supermarket in Beckenham, southeast London. Woolwich Crown Court heard Mr Clark had challenged the defendant when he tried to queue jump at the tills. Williams then left the store and went to a car, but, as seen on CCTV, went back and confronted Mr Clark.
If he said blacks instead of trans it'd be a racist commentThere's a very fine line between righteousness and offensive lads
>>523897666Can imagine it'll be like 50 shades of grey only slightly political and with dog food.
>>523892015>you underestimate my power...
>£100 contactless card limit to be liftedhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2prjr4lpko>Moment killer strolls back to supermarket to fatally attack father who accused him of jumping queuehttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15396185/Moment-killer-strolls-supermarket-attack-father-row-queue-jump-jailed-just-five-years.html>Horror as pensioner dies after being hit by a van in Asda car parkhttps://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2148225/pensioner-dies-hit-by-van-asda-car-park>Phillipson blocks trans rules protecting safe spaces for womenhttps://archive.ph/KNLoo>Reform candidate who told Lammy to ‘go home’ questioned other MPs’ loyalty to UKhttps://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/dec/19/reform-candidate-lammy-go-home-questioned-mps-loyalty-uk-chris-parry>Burgular caught after leaving Red Bull cans at crime sceneshttps://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/burglar-red-bull-cans-nottingham-reece-wheat-video-b2887555.html>Plans submitted to turn going-out hotspot in south London into skyscrapershttps://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/pop-brixton-housing-redevelopment-south-london-b1263215.html>Calls for government action as eight Palestine Action prisoners on hunger strike ‘risk death’https://www.itv.com/news/2025-12-18/eight-palestine-action-prisoners-on-hunger-strike-at-imminent-risk-of-death
>>523898298Welcome to South Africa
>>523898680Gimme her numba
no longer in the mood for my kinder bueno
https://xcancel.com/LBC/status/2001670945782538269#m>’40% of young men and boys have a positive view of Andrew Tate.’>@AgnesChambre says the government plans to deploy ‘counter-terrorism tactics’ in an effort to crack down on violence against women and girls.That's because they are NIGGERS
>>523899073Gis a bit
>>523896648Very unfortunate case of gay guy face, Hunter Schafer has it bad too.
>>523897488The built in VPN on opera browser bypasses all the blocks.
>>523898136cor
>>523899159Jeets can't get enough of Andrew Tate he's like saint to them.
>>523895596Nice cocks bro.
>>523896999Dirty protests are where it’s at. Smear it around, nice and thick.
>>523892015>We wuz English and stuffNo
>>523899347Doesn't work
>NEW: The Home Office has paused plans to house asylum seekers at an army barracks in Crowborough following weeks of large-scale protests Good news
"Anon can you work Xmas eve"Copped for it. Crap.
>>523897666The whole Labour front bench is a bunch of retards and karens.
>Britain leaves the EU>Their leader does the exact same as the EUAnother day living on hell on Earth innit
Alexander Mercouris comments on the new MI6 leader's speech. It's important.https://youtu.be/xZg1_YZDLbQ?t=3911(Timestamped 1:05:11)
>>523899999>puts glasses on
>>523899930perpetually behind the curve on everything except censorship, they're way ahead in that regard, super advanced censorship tyranny.
>>523897488A load of harmless coding and AI sites are blocked too. It's fucking retarded.
https://xcancel.com/PoliticsJOE_UK/status/2001636187073843704#m>"It's basically Starmer imploding...and then the rise of Farage which is unstoppable.">"Being a racist at prep school must be one of the things people want in a leader.">Ian Hislop reviews the insanity of 2025.
>>523899999changes nothing
>>523899799The fascist Starmer regime even blocked my image. What a cocksucker. I'll try again.
>>523899999>It's important.999 - Call the police9999 - Call the army99999 - I NEED A NUCLEAR STRIKE AT MY LOCATION NOW!!!
>>523900264>tfw your 2nd century sub saharan african is whitewashed
You think I can make a global demand against onlyfans for all the people posted there against their will me included?
>>523899867Grim.
>>523900112>>523900414
We need to retvrn to coinage.
>state funded fivehead removal>it affects their mental elf it does
alri la
Well, there goes my one shot at getting out of this dump My only hope is that Trump opens a Based Whites lane of people who will actually contribute properly to America
"Europeans have Antisemitism in their DNA"FDF in?
>>523893215farage knows parliament is just a song and dance but ultimately pointlessmps will vote how they are told by their party, debates are just for show, no one listens or cares and they don't change minds or votes
might have a christmas curry with the lads
>>523893215as soon as he gets into power he's going to open up the public purse to private interests just like the rest. in fact he'll probably be much worse than even the tories and will gut the country much more than they ever did or would>but muh bennies>but muh immigrantsdoesn't matter. he serves the same vultures as the tories and labour, he just disagrees with them on exactly what to sell, how to sell it and when to sellthe country itself is up for grabs and no statesman will put an end to that because no statesman has the bottle to tackle the fundamental issue at hand which is the fact that we're in the last stages of capitalism and the only thing keeping it going is debt + asset seizure and the moving of money around in ways that make no sense other than to retain the illusion of growth so that people keep investing and behaving as though we're still in the 20th century capitalist work + productivity based model. hence why workism and bean-counting landlordism in everyday people is on the rise. its ideological, not praxiological. it doesn't apply anymore, they've been sold a bill of goods, a promissory note, and they're trying to pass the buck by demanding "others" become more productive than them, or at least on par with them, so they can relax their productivity, despite not being productive at all
>>523893215And?How much does Blair etc get for turning and spouting their leftist jibberish?Nige getting a cut is fine by me
>>523900972>brown hands typed this
>>523900859why not just move to SEA?
>>523900859If you think this place is a dump you’d be sorely disappointed by the US. They’re just as fucked as us and the food’s poison.
>>523901074niggatoday is the first day I've seen sunlight in about two weeksI'm 100% whiter than you
https://xcancel.com/infolibnews/status/2001761097620263270#m>The "seven largest Jewish communities on earth" hold biweekly Zoom meetings organized by the ADL to "share tips" and "draft legislation that might work in other countries" to advance their people's agenda.>"We have meetings that are some off the record, some on the record with world leaders in which we share our community's concerns and call for action," ADL VP of International Policy Susan Heller Pinto says on an ADL call hosted by ADL CEO Jonathan Greenblatt.Um, I was told this literally never happens??
>>523901092Space is the defining metric. I resent having to live so close to people mumbling in foreign languages. It's not my choice they are here, but it's my choice if I'm somewhere else
>>523900264We waz
> how do you domesticate your English slaves?Why I thought you’d never ask Don’t look back in anger, anon.
Morning sosijsSunny side up?
>>523901124there's been a viral clip making the rounds on tiktok of some jewish conference where some bint is harping on about criticising israel will follow you around for life and affect job prospects in the future and stuff like that and they're working with tech companies to ensure this is the case. that any online criticism of israel will be conflated with antisemitism and essentially make you persona non grataso basically if you criticise their monopoly on online discourse or even point it out when they fully admit they have said monopoly themselves, they'll ruin your life>we can tell you to your face thats what we're doing>but if you point it out, you're evil and we'll ruin your lifeinteresting cognitive dissonance going on there
>>523901266morning lamight order a maccies
>Speaks as loud as possible in hindi >Puts his filthy shoes on the seatsWhy do jeets do this on public transport every time without fail?
>>523892015It's fucking hilarious that they keep importing apemen from the jungle into the uk, and because they are savages they keep doing weird shit and the white boys get all the blame lmao
>>523900972He can give away our entire gdp if he can sort out the LEGAL migrant problem.
>>523901117If true then you are even more vile than a wog tbqhLeftoids are beyond redemption
>>523898298>5 years for beating a man to death infront of his child>will be out in 3
Could do with a double sausage and egg McMuffin meself
>>523900972You've missed the epic change that has happened.Nick "genocide the blacks" Fuentes is now the right."Evil nazi fascist" Farage is now the centre.The Tories are now the left.Greens/Labour are now the extremist far-left communists.Our future policy options will be between mass deportation (Tories/Left), internment camps (Reform/Centre) or full blown genocide (Nick/Right). Permitting browns to remain isn't even on the ticket.
>>523901310First time not riding on the roof, not used to it
>>523901331elaborate?>>523901333what did I say that was leftist-oriented?
>>523901309Got flung about by a darkie n had a shit chinky yesterday
>>523901368You don’t need McSlop. Scramble up some eggs, chuck in a bit of smoked salmon. Splash of béarnaise if you’re feeling adventurous.
>>523901117You shouldn't stay in your jew tunnels for so long. It's not healthy.
>>523901310They learned it off our women along with some of our womens other favourite pass times including:Bags on seat to occupy themPretending not to acknowledge other people who may want seatLeaving disposable coffee cups on any surfaceWearing insane amounts of moose urine purfumesSpeaking on the phone in public as if they are in private Starting every sentence with I or sheBuying endless trinkets and jewish slopCalling anyone who can't stand their self consumed bullshit hateful
>>523901500
>>523901480Nah
>>523901415>we're in the last stages of capitalismOk tell me about the book (more like online post) your read with some Marxist quotes in it?You are spouting half understood leftist dogma from 100 years ago
>>523901378I think you're misreading the situation entirelythe current left / labour are currently doing all they can to restrict freedoms regarding the free exchange of information and communicationand justifying it by making claims of ontological existential threats by foreign state actors through technologysee mi6 head's recent commentsthey're doing this as a precursor for fully fledged surveillence on all citizens on at least a digital level. this is partly because of AI, because AI affords people more agency which creates an issue for the state because the purpose of the state is to act on the behalf of people who can't advocate for themselves or can't utilise their own agency. but its also partly because anti-state narratives alongside an increase in agency are causing major narrational issues for state legitimacy. there's a genuine cultural rebellion forming across all rungs of societythe right wing stuff, particularly around immigration is a copethat'll disappear once the boomers are deadmillennials and zoomers are mostly left-leaning and liberalwhat you're seeing is the last gap of traditional right-wingism, which is common in older generations anyway as older generations tend to vote right to retain their wealthyou could argue yeah but fuentes appeals to the zoomers and millenials, and even gen A to some degree, but at the end of the day, he's fringe, so it doesn't matterhe's just a more public, yank collett and will be removed from the playing field just like collett when he's served his purposeyou have to think in terms of systems analysis instead of ideology or vibes and favouritesalso, we're currently in the midst of the late stage of the capitalistic life cyclethe right wing has little to no purpose beyond that, because the right wing and capitalism form a symbiotic unionthe transition from capitalism to whatever comes next will be left-dominant and even more universalist then neo-liberalism
>>523900241The head of MI6 saying on camera they intend to use SOE against the Russians is a change in and of itself.
>>523901473>Got flung about by a darkieelaborate?you had a barney?>>523901500too much sun exposure is a bad thingits why I look like I'm in my 20s despite pushing 40>>523901642you think marx is leftist? you've never read marx
>>523901669what's SOE
>>523901704Sex outside everyday
I read all that
>>523901669no it isnt and was never stated
>>523901309so you were talking shit again
>>523901669>>523901704>WE WILL SHARPEN OUR EDGE>AND IMPACT WITH AUDACITY>TAPPING INTO, IF YOU LIKE, OUR HISTORICAL SOE INSTINCTS
people go on about left v right without addressing liberalism v authoritarianism played for absolute fools the lot of yous
>>523901782Am willing to deliver manually all my evidence to scotland yard
>>523901750about what?
>>523901732Yes it is, and yes it was. She said it publicly in front of the camera.
>>523901847proof?
>>523901804its profit vs losswhat are you, 12 years old?
>>523901847lmao
>>523901804basedgood pointthis is where people completely misunderstand marx toofor all intents and purposes he was a libertarian, just with a more anarchistic vibebut even saying that isn't entirely true because he wasn't espousing an ideology, but a praxiology insteadfrom a place of systems analysis and diagnostichis entire point was that centralised systems exploit the majority, and that eventually, capitalism which at the time was and still is the dominant system, will transition to something new once post-scarcity has been reachedbut that the likelyhood is that the ruling classes won't allow that transition to take place without bloodshed because they'll want to retain their stationhe was literally an absolutist in regards to liberation from all forms of oppression and exploitationthats why it makes me laugh when people conflate post-marx, marxist-leninism and other forms of pseudo-communism with marxism (as a praxiology not an ideology)they fundamentally don't understand his work, its nature, its meaning, the point of it, and how it was never supposed to be a manual, but a simple critique based on a desire for everyone to be liberated from oppressive systems
oh yeah and the guy who started the communist league somehow isn't a communistfucking jwog the master ragebaiter
>>523901911nonce
>>523901934see >>523901928
>>523901804Leftism is the root cause of authoriitarianism - leftists govts cannot exist without propping themselves up with increasing laws, ending up with exit taxes and finally walls to keep people in. Rw only goes authoritarian when they are reacting to leftist lunacy eg nsdap after the civil war and weimar, chille after tge commies etc.
>>523899830>"Let it not be said that Labour does not listen to the people. The people of Crowborough have spoken: they want asylum seekers housed in the local school gym and NOT in barracks."
>>523901310They want to turn Britain into the place they left.
It's fucking crazy that there is no system in-place to remove a government that is universally hated, no matter how low opinion figures go there is no way to get them out. Starmer could even start a retarded war and force millions into it, and the only way to force a new election is for mass uprising or something. How is that democracy?
>>523901300Labour are trying to do the same thing with criticism of goatfuckers. Weird how brit/pol/ is always silent on this issue.
>>523902011I know your game, you can't bait me with this bollocks
>>523902032your bias is showingleftism emerges out of left-wing govenments but right-wing governments capitalise on left-wing authoritarian policies so are just as authoritarian as the formerthe last 50 years of british history have proven thisthe left come in and foment new policies that restrict freedoms for the general population and increase dependencythe right come in and rescind some of those policies but usually in a way thats harmful and only deepens future dependency on leftist policies while benefiting from the same authoritarian measures in their own wayits tit for tatits not left vs rightits left being the instigator and right being the beneficiaryI can't believe I have to point this out to someone as well read as yourselfwhich is why I say your bias is showing, you're too ideological and lacking in the context of systems analysis
sad fat ragebaiting nonce cunt
Is the fat sack of shite going to have another CP-spamming melty today?
>>523901899>>523901924Absolutely.https://youtu.be/2lkx1PY4VPw?t=834(Timestamped 13:54)
>>523902032but isn't the ultimate form of authoritarianism monarchy?or does that have its own sliding scale?liberal monarchy doesn't sound right
>>523902182authoritarianism emerges out of left-wing governments*also, remember the snoopers charter? that was a right wing policyalso the OSA was a policy brought about by a right wing governmentso your point doesn't really hold up to basic scrutiny, especially not in a modern context
>>523900859Heh
>>523901935the unit of measurement will always prove x vs y guys wrong
>>523901310>why does my dog bark all the time?!
Don't engage with the obese CP-spamming nonce
>>523901695Chiro
>>523902225retard
>the tories were right wingdon't rise to it, he can't make it anymore blatant what he's doing
>>523902302ohhh, makes sense
>>523892015forced meme of the year award goes towigger starmer anon
>>523896209The honkocaust.
>>523902321>>523902225
>make a shitpost>causes actual discussion for a change
corrr
>>523902385Meme will be redundant come January, he’s joining the ancient order of Hibernians
>>523902182As far as britain goes your making the category error that conservative = rw, theyre not.
>>523902385GSeetheHQ
>>523902260It does, monarch can be anything from a figurehead to a tyrant.
>>523902735they objectively arethey're not as right as say, the american right, but they are right wing in a british context
>>523902735It’s a common fallacy. There is nothing RW about conservatism.
In the midst of my first Christmas work party day right now. I want to kill myself. How the fuck do wagies do this
>>523902825Define "right wing": what are its defining traits and principles? I mean in the political science sense, not screechy guardian speak
>>523902876the problem is when determining what is or isn't right wing, people ignore cultural context in regards to the particulars of the nation in question. the british right wing traditionally looks a lot more like leftism because we're a monarchy. in comparison to the US where both left and right emerge out of libertarianism and constitutionalism. to say that the conservatives are not right wing is comparable to saying the UAE isn't conservative because it employs typically, as defined in a western capacity, leftist policies to foment social and economic cohesiveness. context matters, often more than the policies themselves
>>523902952The purpose of a system is what it does. Define conservatism and rw, then ask yoirsel when a conservative govt did any of that.
Get a hobby you sad cunt.
>>523902925what the fuck?
>>523902925isn't he the guy that ate the sloppy cricket burger?
>>523902952>wordsalad
>>523902917the right wing is literally just conservatism which means conserving historic traditions and institutions but also in modernity, in line with capitalistic interest, which can sometimes cause an accentuation or reformation of historic traditions so to benefit economic growth. so it appears to be left wing, but its really just economic policy adapting to cultural and social norms. but the baseline is always the same, tradition, culture, history, even if the different iterations over time present as more multiculti and liberal / neoliberal as per capitalistic demand. because remember, conservatism has always been, fundamentally speaking, a deferral to a higher order whether it be monarchy or the markets and an adaptation to the status quo, as opposed to a forced shift in regards to that status quowhereas leftism is historically the force that shifts the status quo by authoritarian means because it considers the state to be the be-all and end-all of both past and present ontological reference points as opposed to the markets or the monarchy or religion or whatever else
avin a tom tit
>>523902925topkek>>523903099yeah he memed the soiface when boomers took down that flag too
>>523903099>"we're about a year in">is actually closer to 3 yearsThey'll use any cope to avoid taking their schizo meds.
>>523903134can't help me self.you’re treating left and right as vague cultural labels rather than coherent political positions, and then using policy overlap to claim ideological equivalence. Welfare, state intervention, or social cohesion measures do not become leftist simply because they exist outside the US context. British conservatism accepting a stronger state to preserve hierarchy is not leftism, and authoritarian regimes using state power for stability are not socialist. Context matters, but it doesn’t excuse collapsing distinct political traditions into meaningless categories.spastic.
morning. i'm well ill. think one of these flu vaxxies shedded something on me
>>523902925Cor - I can join the army as a plasterer.Bish bash bosh - jobs a good 'un.
https://twitter.com/MaryLouMcDonald/status/2001705773441626163>After 47 days on hunger strike, the pro-Palestinian prisoners' protest in Britain has entered a serious situation; there is now an imminent danger to life. >Sinn Féin has implored the British Secretary of State, David Lammy MP to directly engage with the pro-Palestinian prisoners and their legal representatives. >The British government must act immediately to ensure that this crisis is resolved before any of the young people die, or incur permanent harm to their health and well-being. >The human and legal rights of the prisoners must be fully respected, including their need for unrestricted access to medical care.lol, lmaoclassic Ireland
>>523903348*shed
>>523903387We've learned the lesson from WW1. This time, our trenches are going to be decorated and fabulous.
>>523903134>>523903346just say west *us* vs east *china* and kiss.
and now you want to block out the sun, who voted for that exactly? in what way are we a democracy? fuck you. we need violence.
>>523903459*shede'd
>>523903134>leftism is historically the force that shifts the status quo by authoritarian meansWhich is where i started? But not necesarrily due to "the state", rw govts have gone down that route too. Fundamentally leftism is class collectivism, and the populist rw is national/ethnic collectivism, blood and soil. It can build on conservative values (deregulation, personal liberty/responsibility, free market economins etc) but doesnt have to. You can make a good case that juche is "far right". Hoppe libertarianism is also "far right".
>>523903479
>>523903479Incorrect, actually they're going to paint and plaster the local girls faces with cum>£26k to be an MoD gooner
>>523903346no I'm notI'm giving specific markers that indicate alignmentI'm just making the point that it differs between cultures to some degreee.g. american rightoidism is different to british rightoidism because of the difference in historic context (pro monarchy vs anti monarchy)left and right are not monoliths. they are general descriptors that require specific descriptions as per individual examples depending on cultural reference points
>>523903537so boring
>>523903562so boring
>>523903503Labour won the last election so yes you voted for EVERYTHING they do. And actually anything they do is your fault and not theirs, because you literally asked them to do it by participating in the voting system.
>>523903562Excuse me this is a military gooning thread, please keep off topic comments to a minumum. Thank you.
>>523903479You can join as an A/C techie too - these trenches are gonna be ace!Nothing about WiFi techs, so nobody's going to join up.
>>523903611>you votedI didn't actually, because the two party system is fucking rigged. I will vote reform though, unless someone makes a just fucking shoot them party before then.
>>523902925>I've already got my girlfriend and her boyfriend to join up and he's only been here two weekscome on this has to be some sort of joke
>>523903537>Fundamentally leftism is class collectivismthis is wrong toorightism is just as class oriented as leftism because class collectivism is a feature of the overall system and is hard baked into every aspect of societyand to some degree it always will be, because hierarchy is an inevitibility, and people in the same hierarchical classifications almost always collectivise as their shared interests require that of themI mean, on the right you have an obvious over-emphasis on the markets (the capitalistic ruling class) and needing to placate said markets, leading all the way up the hierarchy to the international bankstypically the left does this too but with less of an emphasis and they try to emphasise more upon the working class and underclassesso its not a matter of left or right, both do it just do varying degrees and emphasise on different classes. and its not just limited to working class / ruling class either. gender is also a class, so is age range, boomers the most powerful voting bloc currently which is why the conservatives had such a long consecutive run as said boomers are typically the wealth / asset holders of the general population currently and they vote to retain their wealth
>>523903719... come on anon you got this
>>523903444>could you go a chicken supper, achmed sands?Its about time we cut the bogtrotters loose. Why tf do we spend money to guarentee their territoy when the act against our interest? Withdraw the raf and rn and let them see to their own defences.
I shouldn't be surprised by the amount of horse girls at this show, but there are a lot of them.
>>523903562Saying "left and right aren’t monoliths"isn’t a defence, everyone already agrees on that. You still haven’t identified any clear ideological markers, only noted that different countries have different histories and then treated that as alignment. American anti-monarchism versus British constitutional monarchy explains institutional background, not why something becomes “more leftist.” Context changes how politics is expressed, but you still need to explain what defines the positions themselves. As it stands, you’re describing variation without showing why it supports your claim.
>>523901804Authoritarianism is a meme word that doesn't actually mean anything. Every "State" and ideology is "authoritarian".I've lived in a "Authoritarian" state (Singapore) visited Japan, and have visted "Authoritarian" cities like Tier 1/2 chinese cities and they're far fucking better than the vast majority of the fucking "liberal" west.The vast majority of the general public are fucking retards, so why would giving the general public more and more power lead to better outcomes? If that were true Social Media would have created a Utopia and the golden age of information and politics.What actually matters is competence of the leadership. Extremely competent ""Authoritarian"" Governments >>>>> Liberal Governments pretty much every time when it comes to outcomes.The UK and West have basically outsourced leadership to fucking dipshit lawyers and nepobabies with MBA's while those lawyers and nepobabies bootlick Economists. All fields that are largely completely divorced from regular people and reality.Legal experts are not policy experts, MBA's is just neopbaby fake degree and Economics is basically a religion that literally uses geocentric tier math as axioms.
>>523903870>You still haven’t identified any clear ideological markersI literally have, here >>523903134
>>523903709Yet you live in a society that did vote. You have a national insurance number, pay your taxes, and you help your landlady carry out her rubbish.
>>523903902Wumao post
>>523901535They didn't learn it from women. White men are too afraid to tell people to behave in public and have respect for others. This is why all young people, along with poos, niggers and pakis behave like feral creatures in public.
>>523903739Just makes me laugh.>have policy of UK abstentionism>suddenly Mary Lou pleads to Lammy because "muh Palestine!!!!!!!"
>>523903991Paddies view the Pallies as brothers.
>>523903739>>523903991for israelalways!
>>523903911That post doesn’t establish ideological markers at all. It collapses the right into conservatism treats capitalism as an eternal feature of it, and defines the left as inherently authoritarian and state-centric without justification. Those aren’t markers, they’re assumptions. There’s no clear account of how power is structured, how hierarchy is justified, or what would actually distinguish one position from another in practice. It’s just broad characterisation presented as definition.
hilarious thread
>>523903721>hierarchy is an inevitibilityWhich the right accepts as natural order. But the left doesnt: the whole point of socialism is to do away with hierarchy, from the original class war workers vs the bourgeoisie, to the modern "equity" policies. This is what leads to their negation of any human categories and shit like "abdul who got off the boat yesterday is just as british as you", tranny advocacy, hate for borders etc.To enforce this perversion of nature, leftists have to enact increasingly draconian laws.As conservatives are not rw, labour are not socialist: marx would have them shot.
>>523904071Fuck off raghead
>>523903955Go to a Tier 1/2 Chinese city, Singapore, Japan etc and tell me you won't come back realizing the West is completely and totally fucked.Western Neoliberalism and individuality fetish destroyed our societies. Humans work better in collective statist societies.
>>523904056I know.>Sinn Féin MPs believe that as British political institutions should play no part in governing the people of Ireland, they as MPs should not make decisions on behalf of British people.
>>523904120ling chong bing bong, zhao. Can you hear it? The escalator is calling you.
>>523903902>nothing is the same as everythingtrue in the metaphysical but not in the political-ontologicalauthoritarianism means everything because its true for all systems of centralised government and its important to note because if you're under the rule of an authoritarian system you're effectively enslaved, even if you get an arguably good deal out of itthis is the fundamental issue of governence and systems maintenancewe've always been enslaved under the guise of "security" but enslavement itself is a form of insecurity, which democide rates will show you themselvesso its ontologically paradoxical and invalid, its a double standardlike the age old libtard meme of the government claiming to protect you from people who want to rob you, while robbing you themselves but "legally" and for your own sake>>523904087>sudden syntax change>suddenly much more ontologically consistent (but still wrong)hello chatGPT
>>523904104now now dont wana upset your party donors do you lad?
>go on facebook for the first time this year>search exes name>new picture>click>ohshit.jpggood lord she's gotten even fatter with her soi cuck looking bf. don't even find it funny because i used to love her but dear lord.
>>523904188Don't you have some goats to fuck, Abdul?
>>523904176I accept your concession
>>523904120>SingaporeHad a genius who didnt fuck about
>>523904246behave ladyou were out-argued so defaulted to outsourcingthats an auto-concession on your partalso, you can't rage bait meam on the ashwagandha
>>523904056Based
>>523904094Egalitarianism doens't mean you have to be a hive-mind bug people. What is this?
>brit/pol/ taking pro-muslim stances yet againCan we just rename the thread to halal/pol/ or something like that already?
>>523904290you've got nothing
>>523904354got extra bacon on me maccies
>>523904384I've got my figurative ballsack on your forehead right now as we speak
>>523904354Whose taking a pro-moslem stance? You keep memeing this falsehood.
>>523904420still nothing? pipe down pipsqueak
>>523904120>Only look at the best cities china has to offer, ignore the bat and frog eating backwards serfs occupying the majority of the landmass that dont have electricity>check out singapore, this city state is soo advanced. Ignore the fact that its a single city and doesnt need to govern anything but one entirely enclosed area, or the fact the place isnt homogenous but i'm a moron who cant tell different asians apart>check out Japan, isnt soo harmonious, ignore the fact they work 18 hours a day and are still importing millions of jeetsFuck off
>>523904341Hes saying that the belief that all people are of equal worth is incompatible with liberty. Remember egalitarinism, born in france, originally meant "equality before the law", which they didnt have prior to the revolution. It was never intended to mean literal equality.
>>523901310one thing i've noticed about these people is they don't know how to talk normally, they dont have a quiet voicethey always shoutfucking does me nut in hearing a bunch of paki cunts shouting at each other on the streets, like you're 2ft apart cant you fucking talk normally?
>>523904094>But the left doesnt: the whole point of socialism is to do away with hierarchynot trueyou literally cannot do away with hierarchywhat you mean is and where you're getting confused isthe left typically attempts to dissolve old hierarchies and reform society so that a new hierarchy applieswhich you even see in left / right politics in the ukthe social hierarchy changes anytime a new party gets in because specific voting blocs get the benefits of their preferred party getting into powerwhen the conservatives were in power, the boomers and pensioners in general were the kings and queens of the voting block, raised above workers and benniemongs alikenow that dynamic has flipped againlabour isn't trying to dissolve hierarchy, its trying to reformat it to meet its goals, and thats all you can doeven if you try to flatten the hierarchy and make it binary with only two classes, the serf class and the ruling classyou still end up with classes and you still end up with hierarchyso I think you're overstating and also contradicting yourself because you're trying to generalise and avoid specifics
>>523904482kekyou're a good lad
namefags and fakeflagsevery. single. time.
>>523904537I'm sick of pakis and wogs constantly talking on their phones through speakerphone everywhere I go. I can't even open a window in my house without hearing some wog walk past and shouting MUNTU TUNBU BUNTU at the top of his lungs while on his phone. I've also noticed that they tend to hold their phones horizontally for some reason.
>ITT: a geriatric and a cripple debate political theory at sixth form level
>>523904712>itt political window shopper thinks he's elite because he judges the mannequin for the poor fit instead of trying the clothing on himself so he can have an actual opinion
>>523904659gpt thinks you're a retard btw
One of the futile motions parents of kids, particularly girls, face, is how to impart financial responsibility and accountability within a safe environment as they mature. We give them some money and space, we let them make a few key decisions which will have impact on their lives. And as they grow we find its not enough, so we allocate even more pocket money and choices. The problem is that there is always the backstop; whether they waste it on a handbag or trainers, or they simply buy memecoins, the food is always on the table, the house always stands and the utilities continue to flow.This is analogous to the Jocks, the Taffs and our Ulster lads; no amount of grants, bennies and bigger matter choices will learn them to act responsibly, because daddy England is always there, keeping the food on the table. The only way forward is a dissolution of the british union. An independent Scotland for the socks, an independent Wales for the Welsh and a better solution for our lads in NI. As it is with our kids, the current situation is actually unfair to the Scots and Welsh, it prevents them from self determination and dilutes their unique culture and identity as a nation and people. Moreover the current financial arrangements deny them the true environment to stand fiscally accountable and therefore independent to the daddy figure which is dehumanising. Its firm to be fair; the union has to go. England for the English, Scotland for the Scots and Wales for the Welsh. Separate currencies, hard borders, not rights to freedom of travel and migration and full accountability for their respective purses for better or worse.
>>523904825thats because your gpt senses your fragile ego so is gently patting your head and telling you you're a good boy and you're right so you don't have a tantrum (like you have been itt)
>>523904865nice copeI've just been toying with you
He's going to start spamming pizza again just like yesterday
>>523904917you must have me confused with your dildo
>>523904641>you literally cannot do away with hierarchyWell obv - thats why the rw is the superior philosophy and is compatible with human nature. The left will try, fail, and go authoritarian it its pursuit. Dozens of examples, from mao to chile via pol pot. And authoritarian govts must have hierarchy "some people are more equal than others". Fundamentally the left is incompatible with human nature on all levels: states built for men vs men buikt for states.
>t.mushmouthmalpaRight, back to the horse show.
plastic sex arse socialist nationalism
>>523904941ah cute, did you come up with that one all by yourself?
If reform promise they'll unban XL Bullies how likely will they win the next election
Discuss
>>523904712>a smart genx and a mental crippleFtfyFor a politics general im always amazed at how politically illiterate every cunt is>fascism? Well thas like itler an that innit, all them smart uniforms and aircuts eh?
>>523905052Demoralisation shite. Paris looks like Lagos.
>>523905095and Brixton...
>>523905020They need to promise to real digital id, osa, and the jury thing
>>523905157Nah Brixton is gentrified now
>>523904974so you're arguing that the right wing is the superior philosophy because it defers to the "natural order" of things? but the natural order is always in flux? nothing stays the same. everything moves through various iterations over time. if all you have is a deferral to previous iterations of hierarchy and order you end up with stagnation. particular in a capitalistic context. you need leftist philosophy to reform hierarchy and reconstitute it as per society's needs in order to allow for forward movement. so no, right wing philosophy isn't superior, its functional at appropriate times in history, and then other times it isn't and leftism is more functionally appropriate. and just because the left fails and moves into authoritarianism doesn't mean the left itself is inferior. it means change is hard and complex and when you change things, things tend to fall apart and crisis' occur because change is a disruptive element. but so is stagnation. if the right were in power for too long, things would stagnate and you'd circle back to the same issues you'd see as a result of disruption from leftist philosophy, because eventually change becomes so inevitable that even the right is forced to usher it in, but because the right tends to be constrained in regards to original thinking and forward thinking, being conservative, you'll see less gains and more issues in the future due to mismanagement of that change. also you're making the mistake of assuming that left and right are or should be more than merely tools to use when the circumstances require them. identifying with left or right as ideologies, or even philosophies desu, is way too reductive. a holistic view demands you see both sides as tools and utilise them as such, so you retain fluidity and adaptibility in regards to your methods of social organisation and you need to be able to adapt on the fly. can't do that if you identify as one or the other. just like anything life, politics requires equilibrium
>>523905052>AI slop
>>523905015ffs lad I gave you an opening thereyou could've said>you always did look like a dick
>>523892015Trying to get myself a job setup for January. It's looking good, I'm just hoping not to get rugged.
>>523905205>>523905208Fucking lol.
>>523905175I've honestly no idea - I left London in 2000.Paris is shit- as are most big cities in Europe.Loads of useless bames loitering and doing nasty stuff.
>>523905243didn't mean to dupe post
>>523905208Yes. Because the right looks at the real world and constructs around it. The left tries to mold man around some abstract political philosophy, and never succeeds.
>>523905211figures are right though - if misleading when looked at closely.France salaries Gross are higher, but much more is taken in pension so net is smaller.
Also, lern2brevity
>>523905052>life expectancy: 82.3 vs 81>french live 5 years longerHmm.>infant mortality: france 1 in 250, england 1 in 260>this means france is... lower?Hmmm.>higher debt levels and seapnant enginsHmmmm.
>>523905052infant mortalityFrance 1 in 250UK 1 in 260 Higher linked to.....blah blah cretinous
>>523905258London and Paris are both shitholes, I don't know which one is worse but I know London is awful and I've heard awful things about Paris. Race to the downfall of civilisation I guess.
>>523905378I see
>>523905306so does the leftjust with more idealism and predictive modelling>The left tries to mold man around some abstract political philosophy, and never succeeds.but you claimed earlier that the conservative aren't right wing?how can that be true if the left never succeeds?you're essentially arguing>a train can't run on a motorway so its less effective at travel than a caryou're determining viability by a standard that only applies to one side, the traditional rightyou're saying>transformation has to adhere to the same rules and principles as conservation>if transformation doesn't usher in change in the same way conservation conserves, then transformation is uselessthats your baseline argument, but obviously extrapolated into the politicalit doesn't make sense in any contextanother example of how nonsensical it is would be>the pen does a poor job at writing on a blackboard therefore the pen is a failed technologywhile ignoring the abundance of written documents in pen, on paperthe left typically shapes culture from the bottom up via the arts etcwhile enforcing policy from the state downwardsthe right typically conserves culture from the bottom up but also enforces culture from the markets downwards, through the stateyou can't compare the two in the way that you are
>>523905397Yep, and there seems to be little motivation to solve it, or maybe the authorities are sick of the same old shit.Kurt Caz has shown this in multiple cities.
Globalism hates this simple factYou were an adult not her
bogdan's house
>>523905545enforces policy from markets downwards, through the state*
>>523905287>cut and pasteGPT content exposed.
>>523905831proxy bug actuallyhappens when it cancels one post when its already being processed, that post will still enter the queue but visually shows it as not having been postedso instinctively you go to try and post again and then you get a dupe post
anyway, time to grindif anyone replies to my argumentation I'll continue laterfor a while thoshitposting only
>>523905719Not rural Russia?Fridge magnets were in Cyrillic
Cor lads Christmas veg is down to 5p a bag in aldi. Going to have to get some more and soupmaxx What’s the best way of keeping carrots, parsnips and sprouts a few weeks
Having a poo with the door open lads
>>523906020that pic is actually quite ominous now if you think about it>dago knewall those years ago
>>523906066chop emfreeze em
>>523906066separate them and keep in a cool place.
love this fella i do, even if he's a bit nuts
>>523906179Fuck me his heart failure must be getting worse, look at those plump fucking savaloys
>>523906066Nasty cheap veg. Something must be wrong with it.
>>523906366I farted in each bag
>>523906216Proper bratwurst fingers. >>523905917U dun goofed. You had a good run.
>>523906430>improvise>adapt>overcoom
>>523905093Gobtard is gen x ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTVUxbns5yk
well ill
>>523906366Its paid for in advance. They take the loss and pay for it with margins from other items. The buyers have a corporate margin target; offering a bit off paul and adding to peter is simply a maths game. They used to target 25% to deliver just over 22 after store accountable costs back in the 00s when i worked in retail. Now i understand the buying teams are aiming for 30%. One has to think of the poor shareholders over these difficult times.
>>523906424corrr. alright rBelle?
>>523906762Cor gis a bit
hit rock bottom this year.. neet until new year at least, been a few monthswhat kinda job should I get?
>>523906784*coughs in your face*
>42 postsWhat set him off today?Also, afternoon spackers
>>523906803wank on chaturbate all day wearing a bra
>>523905397how much of london do you need to experience if you live there? you can have a nice life in london if you have money and spend much of your free time elsewhere lol.
>>523906803office fat bastard
>>523906840don't. i grew up in ilford and it was bad then 20 years ago
>>523906803customer service in a local shopping centre for easy access to prime breeding material
>>523906814Fuck, do it again. I'm almost there.*furiously wanking*
>>523906835>>523906849i'll do both just you watch
>>523906905*COUGH* ooo *HACK* >phlegms on your nob
>>523907048new
>>523905364>french live 5 years longerI took this from a comparison between Canadians and Americans. I changed the Canadian for a Frog and then the American for a Bong.Figures are right, comparisons are iffy
>>523903387£26,000 is minimum wage if you work 40 hrs a week.If shit kicks off you'll be deployed 24 hrs a day, 7 days a week, risking death and maiming for far less money per hour than a burger flipper.Fuck that.
>>523906868I lived in Convent Garden for a few years, it was nice.
>>523907244No maximum hours in the army - I've no idea how much they take off for room and board either.Good if you come out of it with a trade like airframe tech - fuck the artillery tho.
>>523896999>Decide to starve themselves>start crying that they are starving to deathReally annoys me when people pander to hunger strikers. Just tell them to eat some food or fuck off and die.
>>523907488Accommodation charges are negligible, it’s gone before you see your wage. REME airframe techs are in the highest pay tranche bar one but they’re worked like dogs and it’s a high pressure job. Especially in an attack helicopter squadron because of the new NATO role and aircraft readiness requirements.
