Was he REALLY that bad of a president? I remember when every single comedian, musician, media outlet was mocking him as incompetant. People were claiming we would never have another republican president after him.Was he truly that bad?
>>523893031Such is the way of things Mr Shitter. If you really want a headscratcher, look back at Watergate and Nixon's presidency generally with your modern context and understanding of political ratfucking.
>>523893031Compared to Trump he was a god-tier president, but compared to Obama he sucked. Trump is by far the most embarrassing and moronic president we have had in our history.
the real question is what sort of glownigger shit did his dad get up to him being president was a reward for his dad doing all sorts of spy shit for the cia I think
>>523893031He was pretty bad. People mocked him because they considered him a bumbling idiot, but he wasn’t. He wasn’t particularly brilliant either. He was a typical baseball jock who went into politics to piss off his dad. A 50 year old frat boy. A dime a dozen in every C-suite in the country. He lied to get us into Iraq and wasn’t particularly interested in any policy changes. He created a torture program that everyone in the intel industry knew wouldn’t work. Simply to torture these goat fuckers into retardation and insanity for fun. If any other country did that shit, half the planet would never stop bitching about it.
>>523893031I pretended to be going after Osama Bin Laden so that he could get congress to give him war powers, and then ignored Osama Bin Laden and decided to overthrow Iraq for the oil. Even so, compared to Trump, Bush Jr was a saint.
>>523893308>He created a torture program that everyone in the intel industry knew wouldn’t work. Simply to torture these goat fuckers into retardation and insanity for fun.When you put it like that he sounds great.
>>523893264If I paid a gay woman to type something here, this is what "they" would type. You're too obvious.
>>523893468It was about revenge. Afghanistan, Iraq, and the torture program. It was about revenge, and anyone who claims anything else is being disingenuous. We twisted the knife knowingly and with intent to do so at every level. From suffocating hundreds of prisoners of war in shipping containers to turning Mohammed al-Qahtani into a mental patient. We brutalized these people on purpose, and I agree that was the right call.
>>523893031Blowing up the twin towers is sovl. Being gay and sucking one another like picrel is not. That is all the information you will need.
>>523893031He was a liar, a Zionist puppet and he has the blood of millions of people on his hands. It will be a joyful day when he joins his fellow traitors in hell.
I never liked him, being the libshit I am. But I also didn't have to hear about him every fucking day, making himself a spectacle. And he actually did seem to care about his causes. It was only 8 years. By the time Trump is done, it'll have been like 16 years, and assuming he doesn't shit himself to death like Elvis, he'll keep going on and on, senile, until he eventually strokes out and the MAGAs finally give up.
>>523893031Great guy, criminal president
>>523893031Biden makes him look like George Fucking Washington
>>523893031He traumatized entire world, but especially Americans. He trauma mkultraed the whole nation. Americans are far from recovering.
He was complete trash>after 9/11 made it all about Iraq because "Saddam tried to kill my dad">war costs trillions of dollars with lots of lives lost and soldiers getting PTSD>"No Child Left Behind" means that kids can't fail out so the school just keeps giving them passing grades>shit economy and high gas pricesThe worst President we've ever had. I lost all respect for liberals that hated Bush that say Trump is worse.
>>523893031Patriot Act alone was worse than anything Trump has done and Bush did that not even one year in office. What do you think?
>>523893308>He was a typical baseball jock who went into politics to piss off his dad. His dad watched him fap in a coffin as part of an initiation. Wtf is this chatgpt response?
>>523898124I'm a libshit and I also lose respect for anyone who says Trump is worse than Bush.Trump is brazenly corrupt, but he's not actively destroying the country the way Bush did, Trump is just not really doing anything to slow the collapse.
>>523893031He was the last good US president.
>>523899227>Trump is brazenly corrupt, but he's not actively destroying the country the way Bush didHe is though.
>>523893031Bush did 9/11
>>523893031Consider that by the end of the 1990s everything was pretty much perfect. Prosperity. A stable global order where free countries were in charge and cooperating under the leadership of the USA.Then Dubya allowed 9/11 to happen on his watch and then his administration completely panicked and started shitting everything up. 20 years later the world has devolved into everyones battle against everyone. All actors are jumping on the might-makes-right bandwagon. All western countries are drowned in shitskin immigrants because all of the middle east was thrown into chaos. There are probably 20 million muslim refugees in the US and Europe right now that would never have been here if not for this faggots policies.
>>523893308Wtf you talking about, his glowie dad handheld him into office all the way up to the Brooks Bros riot. There’s a reason he picked George over Jeb, needed a sycophant to bring his people back into power.
>>523899676Had the same financial advisors at Carlisle group as the Bin Laden family, flew their family out of America day of 9/11. Just let it happen. George HW Bush ruled America for longer than anyone else in my lifetime
>>523893264lol no rather see some senile tweets that two decade + wars and infinity illegals
>>523899676This is the most succinctly I've seen somebody explain the global situation. Thank you anon.
>>523899425that is a baseless conspiracy theory
>>523893031He was a kike like all presidents
>>523898124> Implying Bush is worse than TrumpShh. Don't jinx it.
>>523893264Bush Jr was absolute fucking retard.Trump atleast is upfront about what his goals are.
By himself he was relatively harmless but he surrounded himself with outright evil people like Cheney and Rumsfeld
>>523893031Yes he did 9/11 with Cheney, PNAC, and the jews.
>>523905538they were all his father's men that wanted to finish what they started
He is a masonic glo nigger parasite like the mutt nigger shills on this sight and infesting Western soverinity. They serve their satanic intrest and that is all.>>523893397That are all in this thread as stupid bastard golems.
>>523898124The truth behind all of that is jews wanted the opioid fields to remain untouched as the sandniggers were trying to burn them down, so (((they))) said the magic words of "potentially have weapons of mass destruction" which caused us to move in like the occupied nation we are. Everything about avenging his father was bullshit to appease boomers.
>>523905609Does this reaction look like he was in on it? It looked like he knew who it was and that he couldn't do anything about it. Something out of his control.
>>523893031>"Tacos Rule" -George W. Bush 43rd President of the United Sates
>>523906174He probably knew something of this magnitude was going to occur at some point, but he probably had no idea it would happen in his lifetime or at all.
>>523898124>with lots of lives lost and soldiers getting PTSDStop-Loss intensified that. Imagine doing your time in the Military just to come home and find out your President said: "Nope, you're going back" I'd be pissed too.
>>523893031>flagI wont bother replying to you, just sage the thread and move on. you fermented piss stinking fucking monkey. No mercy for your kind, Ever.
>>523893031Illegal immigration and outsourcing really hit their stride during his term and he was quietly in support of both, his foreign policy really needs no introduction, he expanded the security state and had an openly anti-white FBI to the degree that the infamous DC sniper niggers were able to kill multiple people because the FBI refused to investigate non-white suspects.On that last one yes it really was that bad, they got multiple tips telling them exactly who it was but refused to investigate because Mueller (yes THAT Mueller) said he wanted a white male shooter.
>>523893031No American president has had an IQ over 70 for a very long time
Was he Franklin Pierce bad? No. But he was bottom tier, a plastic mannequin to smile for the public while Dick Cheney used the government to his own advantage. Of course Donny can't stand the thought of anybody being at the top of any list, even worst President, and had to prove everyone wrong.
>>523906174>>523907558Based on what came out since then, the CIA knew 9/11 was going to happen.The French wanted to warn Bush about 9/11, but the CIA intercepted it and then never passed it up the chain.Prior to 9/11, Republicans were saying the US needs to spin down Pentagon spending because it was too much and they couldn't prove anything good waa coming from it.So odds are, he wasn't in on it, but people who should have told him were.Let's not forget the CIA had written out what the attack looked like before it happened.Rumsfeld had plans for blowing up Iraq ready because he wanted a target rich environment for testing US weapons and Afghanistan was too difficult to test weapons in.Condoleeza Rice was actively working with Israel in regards of making sure targets Israel didn't like were handled, and in making sure Russia/NATO never make a deal (Putin was hoping to join NATO and strengthen trade relations at the time).Basically we were heading towards world peace in the west, and the people who could have stopped the shit that caused everything to go bad, all had reasons to make sure it gets even worse.
>>523893031His presidency became defined by that fucking war in Iraq and there weren't even any WMDs. He was likely just a puppet of the globalists.
>>523893031George and Bill were pretty bad and are responsible for a lot of the things we bitch about today. Bill ran off all the employers and killed small towns across America then George rolled in and introduced the patriot act and no student left behind which caused us to have retards everywhere.
>>523893031he was constructed to intentionally look inept
>>523893264Bush is ironically one of the few presidents far worse than Trump. Thought the vaccine/lockdowns vs the patriot act are similar, Trump hasn't engaged in outright meaningless war (yet)
>>523893031Bush was a bad president, and history has validated our criticism of him. The expensive wars he started drained american resources for no gain for 20 years and are what started piling us in debt. The 2008 financial crises happened on his watch because, like all republicans, he didn't believe in regulation. No child left behind policies absolutely fucked the american education system and are a big part of why people are so goddamn stupid now, our schools went from some of the best in the world to a goddamn joke. He used the war on terror as an excuse to expand executive powers, which everyone warned at the time was setting us up for authoritarian presidents in the future and that came true. Half the retarded shit that Trump has done in office wouldn't have been possible if Bush had not set the stage for him.Its genuinely upsetting how many of the things that are destroying America today stem from Bush being a moron. He'd be the worst US president in history if Trump had not fought tooth and nail to take the title spot from him.
>>523893031>Was he truly that bad?Yes. He was genuinely worse than Trump in many ways.
Yes. >Was warned about a major terrorist plot that was very close to completion by the Clinton admin, the CIA, Mossad, and the fucking Saudi multiple times(last time was in August 2001)>Ignore that shit, Demand America is untouchable. Assume someone, somewhere down the line would stop this without the feds getting involved.>9/11 happens>Gets warned by all the top military advisors trying to occupy Afghanistan and treat them like we did Japan/Germany post WW2 was NOT gonna work and would only lead us into a quagmire that lasts decades and gets nothing done>That is exactly what happens>Got us into Iraq, claimed Saddam had "WMDs" >Turns out he had none, just a whole lotta oil and gold.>Our allies stopped trusting the US due to Dubya's war mongering.>Without Saddam keeping all the crazy fuckers inline, the crazy fuckers exploded all over the Middle East. Due to this there was a perfect excuse for endless immigration from those areas.>America went from having a surplus to being trillions in debt in his 8 years>Karl Rove fully embraced and used the 24/7 news cycle and the new fangled "internet" to get Dubya reelected via outrage poilitics, setting the tone for American Politics in the new Millennium >Patriot Act made constantly spying legal>No Child Left Behind broke the school system and is THE reason zoomers are fucking retards that can't read>The Epstein secret deal happened under his admin>Crashed the Econ, signed bills to make sure the banks get bail outs on his way outI'll put it like this, Dubya was such a profound fuck up that America elected a no name, fresh faced black man over a GoP candidate(twice). Even within the GoP voter base, they would rather vote for someone like Trump than an establishment Neo-Con.
>>523893031yes he was awful. the budget was balanced and the us had limited foreign entanglements. him and his band of jews and neocons made sure that would never again be the case for this country
>>523906174>>523907558>>523908678He knew about it. He was warned multiple times. The last time he was briefed on it was by his own team in August of 2001.https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0e/Bin_Ladin_Determined_To_Strike_in_US_%28August_2001%29.pdfHe COULD have put more effort into finding them, but he did not. He instead insisted that the systems and American people would stop it.>Surely someone in America will report crazy Arabs saying/doing odd things and it won't just be ignored>Surely the local PD will handle it before any harm is done>Surely the Airport security will catch any issues
>>523893031The good thing he did was at least he kept Afroleninists/faggots/feminazis corked up and they were totally powerless and irrelevant when he was president.
>>523912227Now tell us about the other two 21st century presidents. We'd like to hear your take on them just so we know this analysis is fair and objective.
>>523907724Did you know 9/11 was extremely preventable but for the fact that airport security were told to ignore a bunch of suspicious-looking Middle Eastern men with one way tickets because that would be racial profiling?
>>523893308More or less this.
>>523893031Yes, definitely and here's how I know>Have childhood friend who grew up to be retarded and work for Democrats and campaigns and shit>Her (Republican) father is very wealthy and bankrolls her lifestyle, breaking leases on expensive apartments and so on so she can traipse around the country losing elections>I can't take her politics seriously and I know her family well otherwise so we still see each other from time to time>She's always seething some feminist bullshit and insisting typical DNC talking points until everyone at the table is rolling their eyes so hard they can't see>BUT>She absolutely DICKRIDES W>Seriously. Weird obsession. Every other Republican president was an evil Hitler... Except George W Bush, who was awesomeI don't know why it's true, but everything she ever says is wrong so I can be confident.
>>523893031at least he's honesthttps://youtu.be/s1kwq52NKmo
I'm not a fan of how low IQ and trashy the culture got when he was president. That was his fault too for promoting this tacky fratbro/jock vibe that inspired bling rap and other things best left unmentioned.
>>523893031blew up the deficit with idiot tax cuts, kille 1 million in Iraq for oil, crashed the economy with deregulation of ninja loans and kneecapping regulators, closeted gay with fetish for bald headed military rentboys, alcoholic in denial about alcoholism, drunk all the time while in office
There was no excuse whatsoever to have a 10-20 year occupation of Iraq/Afghanistan to enrich military contractors.
>>523913671Obama was handed a golden opportunity and squandered it because he insisted on playing by bipartisan rules when the republicans had zero intent in working with a black man. Having a black president mindbroke the republican base in such a deep way that it allowed MAGA to take root, meanwhile Obama pissed away a congressional majority and did nothing with it. If Obama had successfully passed universal healthcare and cut the insurance companies out of the picture entirely, it might have been worth it but the compromises that resulted in the affordable care act were a poison pill that helped no one. Obamacare might have had good intent, but it was a half measure that fixed nothing. Obamacare was unambiguously the most damaging thing that happened under Obama's watch. The rest of Obama's biggest sins are all just extensions of the shit that had already started under Bush. Obama being drone-happy is really nothing more than a continuations of the wars and presidential powers that Bush himself created under the justification of the war on terror. Again, we can't get here without Bush having shit all over the place first. Biden is a senile old fart, but honestly he wasn't a *bad* president, simply not a very good one. He kept things running more or less intact, which after the covid pandemic nuked the economy isn't nothing. With all of the shit that was being inherited after Trump 1 we needed a more pro-active president willing to fix things than Biden was, but being a safe choice was what got him elected after 4 years of Trump so its hard to blame him for doing the job he was hired for.
>>523893031>was he really that bad?Yes
>>523914367Regardless, reposting copypaste from 2004 Usenet talk.politics threads doesn't get to the bottom of anything.
>>523899676>Consider that by the end of the 1990s everything was pretty much perfect.It really wasn't but kids growing up in that time think it was. You were just shielded from reality.
>>523893264The Left propaganda is that Republican presidents are stupid. It only works with the Lefty media so it’s powerless now. Bush was smart competent man. He did some evil things that were pushed by the kike advisors, like invading Iraq.
>>523909268The war in Iraq, the terror threat color codes, the TSA, the DHS, the Patriot Act, etc.
>>523912963>warned by Mossadoh ok
>>523914437>Obama and Biden were ok guys it's just that Bush handed them such a mess and they in no way did anything malicious or contributed to...Figures. I knew where you were coming from. We're done here.
>>523893031The neocon shit sucked, but he was otherwise ok--maybe midtier for a president. The 2008 market collapse was because we never actually dealt with the dotcom boom and bust, and the hooknoses just replaced it with a housing boom and bust. Not really his fault.
>>523914146One could argue that the extremely polarized division between the American Left and Right, which has made cooperation and governance increasingly impossible, started under Bush and specifically the 2000 election. Enough people felt robbed by the 'too close to call' recount situation in Florida that Bush never escaped the specter of whether or not he was 'legitimate' as the president. Everything that happened with 9/11, the war on terror, and so on just more deeply entrenched people against each other, but the fact that Democrats genuinely felt that Al Gore had been unfairly robbed of his victory by election fraud created a tear in the fabric of society that has only grown with time.
Yes he was awful. If you think he's funny in any way perhaps you should ask me dad if he found it funny when he was sent to Iraq or me mum if she had a laugh when she lost her job in the 2008 financial crisis caused by him.
>>523914651There was no otherwise. It was all neocon bullshit.
>>523914726I want to ask your father why he's serving in the military and receiving a paycheck for it without considering the small possibility that he might need to work for it some day.
He was very lucid before becoming president, he looked out there when president unless he was playing golf>>523913547>>523908678He knew about it but also knew Mossad would get him if he stopped it because it was an inside job, Osama was planning embassy attacks rather than something that big
>>523893031he was the worst president weve ever had
>>523893031Like Trump, he got elected multiple times because the Dems nominated the wrong candidates (due to their own over-confidence and over-calculation)
>>523893031He was prettt bad but not actively as fkd up as obama
>>523899676This, aside from the onset of neoliberalism in the late 70's, Bush the lesser is the #1 reason for the absolute fucking state of the world today
>>523914699Regardless of 2000, one doesn't dispute that he was reelected 4 years later by a majority of the vote.
>>5238930319/11,iraq war, stock crash pure kino
>>523915239True, but by that point the cultural damage was done. As we continue to see today, narrative matters more than facts.
>>523893730>to turning Mohammed al-Qahtani into a mental patientjust read the wiki page about his torture>Various humiliations, such as training the detainee to act as a dog, dance lessons, and forcing him to watch puppet shows depicting sexual acts between him and Osama bin Laden at his mock birthday partysounds like something out of a Garth Ennis comic. Sucks to be him, lol
>>523893031He's the second worst president of all time after Trump.
Some say what led to the downfall of Nixon is that he got less than 50% of the vote in 1968 and his own party never controlled Congress to a lot of people never entirely accepted him as a legitimate president.
>>523915400Now tell us your opinion of those other two 21st century presidents so we know you're objective and not Stephen Colbert posting anonymously here.
>>523915517How about you tell us your own opinions instead of demanding other people feed you stuff to comment on like a tick hanging on the side of the thread? You have 10 posts and its all reactionslop.
>>523915679I already said everything there was to say. Most of Bush's record as president was not healthy for the country, children, and small animals.>you stuff to comment on like a tick hanging on the side of the thread?Why does this read like a boomer's Facebook comment?
>>523893031Yes, he was absolutely fucking awful. I would argue he was the worst thing to happen to the US, even worse than Trump.
>>523915972Then why are you sperging out over sleepy and obummer? They were not the topics of this thread and you keep bringing them up so you can whataboutism deflect from the topic.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MTX5uvZWu3Q&pp=ygUaZ2VvcmdlIGJ1c2ggb24gdWtyYWluZSB3YXLSBwkJTwoBhyohjO8%3DEven George Bush knows he fucked up and just rolls with it.
>>523916270I wasn't. There were a couple of anons here who made posts like "derf Bush worst president ever until Trump." Since they never seemed to mention Obama and in one case >>523914437 was oddly defensive of him, it proved they were most likely paid ActBlue shills and not operating from an objective POV.
To get to the bottom of things, try and understand that the Bushes are a New England family and New Englanders are nanny state liberals, no matter how much he claimed to be a good ol' boy Texan.
>>523893284The thing is the Bush family straight up represents Freemasonry. The actual reason Trump is supposedly a disruptor is because the Bush order has to wait for him to get out of the way when they intend to assume control again.>>523905916Nailed it
>>523915517>ObamaHandled the fallout of the Great Recession as well as just about any president could have, reinstating basic regulations that Clinton and Bush cut which were the recession's major causes, saving the auto industry, saving millions of homes with MHA, HARP, etc, putting the country on track for its longest consecutive period of growth ever; a shockingly weak and naive executive, for instance, allowing Joe Lieberman to tank the prospect of Obamacare being public option without a fight, letting Bitch McConnell totally cuck him out of Garland on the bench, thinking a person as evil as Netanyahu could be worked with; somebody who failed to deliver on the mandate for overwhelming change, e.g. not delivering on mass infrastructure improvements, expanding free education, child care, lowering prescription drug prices (all Biden proposals); somebody too scared to upset the apple cart (I.e. not arresting the Bush administration for war crimes, more Wall Street and economic executives for financial crimes); a very mixed foreign policy record that ranged from very good (JCPOA, killing Bin Laden, ending the Iraq War, support Minsk Accords, refusing to veto condemnation of West Bank settlement expansion) to terrible (intervention in Libya, intervention in Syria, refusing to recognize a Palestinian state without Israel's approval, failure to withdraw from Afghanistan, having explicit interference in the Maidan Revolution, etc)The best president of the century, but a thoroughly mediocre letdown 5/10
>>523915517>>523919404>BidenImpressive executive, achieving nearly everything Obama could have to deliver seismic change with one of the smallest majorities ever with tangible results in infrastructure, child poverty, clean energy, student loans, prescription drug prices, etc), intelligently using strategic oil reserves to help his party in the midterms, completely cucked France with AUKUS; surprisingly anti-establishment, particularly against the Atlanticist neoliberal establishment he came from (appointing Lina Khan to the FCC, who prevented multiple monopolies from forming, delivered for consumers on inhaler prices, ticket prices, cancelling subscriptions, etc), increased tariffs on China, ended the Afghanistan War, ended the prosecution of Julian Assange, open to improving relations with Russia (before that Invasion of Ukraine) and Iran; shockingly poor foreign policy (Got America involved in a multi-hundred billion dollar quagmire in Ukraine he had no idea on how to end, arguably inspired October 7th to happen by seeking normalization with Saudi Arabia with no regard for Palestine and the crimes Israel was committing pre-October 7th, subsequently giving Israel a blank cheque to commit genocide and crimes against humanity in Palestine and Lebanon and only did the bare minimum to scale back their destruction when it became obvious it would be a campaign issue, breaking taboos like strategic ambiguity over Taiwan that alienated China and spurred the growth of BRICS and dollarization, isolating America by his vetoes in favor of Israel and threats against the ICC after they criminally charged Netanyahu, not to mention the terrible border policies until the last year of his administration.Arguably the most accomplished domestic policy president of this generation, but most everything else other than withdrawing from Afghanistan was bad. 3/10For comparison, Trump and Bush are both 1/10 Presidents.
>>523898124>>523899227>>after 9/11 made it all about Iraq because "Saddam tried to kill my dad"That wasn't true and Bush knew it wasn't true. He invaded Iraq because his administration was controlled by the Israel lobby, same as the Trump admin.>>war costs trillions of dollars with lots of lives lostTrump refused to get us out of Iraq and is threatening to re-invade Afghanistan and using word for word the same script Bush used against Iraq to preempt his war against Venezuela. He is worse, far worse.>>523898918Trump has continued all the Bush-era spy programs. >>523899425Then Trump's covering it up.>>523899854The only reason George became president is because he won the governor's race in '94 and Jeb lost. H.W. thought George was basically a retard and a bad president and admitted it to his biographer.
>>523893031>Was he truly that bad?He was funny. I do miss him for that.Obama Biden and Trump aren't funny
>>523905426They have the same goals, but George was less personally evil and corrupt.>>523909268Instead of complaining about Bush's lies to start a war 20 years ago, focus on Trump's lies right now.>>523911465>far worse than TrumpHe's not far worse. At worst, he is only slightly better.>Trump hasn't engaged in outright meaningless warOnly because your idea of a war is a ground invasion. Trump has committed acts of war against Yemen and Iran and is openly signaling he's about to start a ground invasion of Venezuela over fake WMDs, just like Bush.
>>523912466>worse than Trump in many waysCan you name them?>>523912963>they would rather vote for someone like Trump than an establishment Neo-Con.That's precisely what Trump is. The reason Republicans voted for Trump is because he is bigoted celebrity, which appeals to the rubes who vote Republican. If they wanted somebody an anti-establishment, anti-neocon, they would have voted for the Pauls in 2008, 2012 and 2016.>>523914726That's Tony Blair's fault. Harold Wilson told LBJ and Nixon to fuck off over Vietnam.
>>523914932Al Gore won 2000 fair and square. >>523914889Until Trump.>>523916197He's worse than Trump.
>>523893031>Trump made him look saneHow the fuck is this even possible?
>>523921179trump is widely recognized as the funniest president
>>523914889can't be worse than james buchanan, the guy whose actions caused the civil war
>>523923990Saying Buchanan caused the Civil War is reductionist history. If any president is most to blame for inflaming strife that led to the war, it was Pierce, but secession was basically always going to happen so long as anti-slavery candidate like Lincoln was elected. Trump and Bush were both worse than Pierce, mind you.
