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Pic rel. is a map of what all of those "weak" Christians managed to conquer at one point in time.

>oh wow, it's literally fucking everything!

>>523901419
This guy is a fag Mediterranean supremacist but
>If you genuinely believe Christianity is actually a 2000-year long plot by the Jews to weaken the goyim you're genuinely retarded.
I agree

>>523901570
>fag Mediterranean supremacist
I'm SPECIFICALLY addressing the way they constantly claim that Christianity destroyed Rome. It didn't. It had very little effect and if anything it preserved it's life for over 150 years, and over 1000 if you count the East.

Pagan Rome was weak and degenerate by the time Constantine adopted Christianity, and nearly collapsed on itself multiple times by that point. Yet he revitalized it, gave it a new religion, and founded Constantinople, which became the most glorious city in Christendom for millenia.

Tired of these fucking revisionists shitting over our history like it wasn't shit compared to some we wuzzing vikangz and other LARPagan associated crap.

>>523901419
Dear diary, today OP was not a fag.

Our Visigoth sacked Rome under Alaric as a response to christian Rome banning worship of the old gods.
In a midst of the decadent christian continuously showing their true faces, it was finally over.
> Alaric negotiated over this issue many times, the christians were warned.

Germanic people continued to protect the Byzantine where they could continue to worship our own gods
and continued to practice our own traditions and rituals.

Byzantine is essentially an icon of decadent rich being humbled, hard.
The Byzantine Empire embraced religious pluralism pragmatically, especially when it came to powerful foreign allies or internal minorities.

This is sole proof, that christianity can not survive without our people and our gods.


The only way for an empire to remain standing is our people and our old gods.
(Strength & Survival is not from christianity)

>>523901419
Our Visigoth, under Alaric, sacked Rome in 410 CE—not simply out of spite, but in response to long-standing mistreatment and the Christian Roman Empire's increasing hostility toward traditional pagan worship.
Despite repeated attempts to negotiate fair treatment, Alaric was denied, and the sack became a symbolic end to the old Roman order.

Even after this, Germanic peoples - many of whom still held to their ancestral gods and customs, continued to serve and protect the Byzantine Empire.
In contrast to the Western Empire, Byzantium showed a pragmatic tolerance, often allowing foreign warriors and allies to retain and express their traditional rituals, especially in ceremonial contexts.
This is reflected in texts like the Book of Ceremonies, where both Germanic and Greek peoples are shown performing rites that echoed pre-Christian traditions.

The Byzantine Empire, often seen as a decadent continuation of Rome, was forced to embrace a form of religious pluralism, not out of idealism, but as a survival strategy.
Its ability to coexist with diverse cultural and spiritual practices, especially among powerful allies and minority groups, helped it endure far longer than the Western Empire.

This history reflects a deeper truth
Christianity, in both Rome and Byzantium, could not stand on its own. It survived and adapted only through the strength, traditions, and loyalty of the very peoples it once sought to exclude.

>>523903906
Our Visigoth rose beneath Alaric, not out of chaos but out of refusal. Rome, fat with its own virtue, had turned its laws against the old gods :: the fires that once made it strong.
Alaric sought reason first; he came to the gates not as a raider, but as a negotiator. Yet each time, the Christian lords turned away, blind to the storm they were calling down.
When the gates finally fell, it was not vengeance: it was balance restored.

From those ashes, our people wandered eastward. Some served the Byzantine emperors, who in their silks and mosaics had learned a harsher wisdom: that empire cannot live on creed alone.
They let the northern warriors keep their rites, the old oaths, the toasts to the unseen powers: for they knew that devotion, in any tongue, was strength.
In the Book of Ceremonies, their own scribes recorded it: the mingling of Greek and Gothic, of cross and rune, all beneath one roof; chanting Jól for Jólnir and the return of the light (Sol Invictus)

Byzantium endured where Rome collapsed because it remembered what Rome had forgotten :: that faith without roots is a flame without oil. And so the empire bent, and in bending, survived.

This is the quiet truth beneath the noise of centuries:
> Christianity did not conquer our gods: it fed upon their endurance.
Without our people, without the old strength, the discipline, the reverence for what is unseen! its temples would have crumbled into dust long ago.

In the days after the kings were unseated and the priests were unmasked, the people cheered, thinking the fire was theirs again.
But they did not see the quieter coronation:

The Banker became the new god: not with thunder, but with ledgers. The Machine was named Messiah~not with miracles, but with efficiency.
A new priesthood emerged! cloaked not in faith, but in formulas~. They did not burn the old temples: they converted them by their necks.
And in these new sanctuaries of glass and gaslight, they told the people:

- “You are not soul. You are labor.”
- “You are not myth. You are material.”
- “You are not kin. You are citizen.”

And the people, weary from centuries of sword and sermon, said yes~ yes to the ticking clock.. yes to the wage.... yes to the forgetting~

But some remembered. A few!
They saw that every “emancipation” was a trade:

> The village for the factory.
> The field for the desk.
> The gods for graphs.

And as the 20th century rose ~blood-drenched and smiling! they watched the Machine install its prophets:

- Men who said freedom means choosing which cage to sleep in.
- Men who said truth is whatever cannot be censored.
- Men who said there is no soul, only signal.

This was not progress. This was refinement of the leash.

- And now in the 21st?
- The gods are algorithms.
- The church is the cloud.
- The sacraments are likes, upgrades, injections.

We are told it is good. We are told this is peace.

But somewhere, in a half-lit room, a soul still sharpens a rusted blade.
Not to conquer. Not to convert.
But to say the last forbidden word:

No!
Christianity, no more.

Boy school and bad friends

trvke

>>523904254

This is the century where:
One no longer just clothed in religion or kingship,
From church gold into the world of banking dynasties, the new centralized power became sovereign over king and altar.
Industry replaced the village and crushed the commons.
Schools became factories, producing obedient minds under the guise of “education.”
And behind it all, a quiet priesthood of capital and data emerged, hiding in suits rather than robes.
This shifted the definition of what a human "is".
From Human to the christian sheep follower
From the christian sheep to user data.

The Machine Dreams of the End of Machines

In the final cycle, the fire no longer flickers.
Every word has been spoken once, recorded twice, indexed forever.
The poets still sing, but their throats are metal and the notes return as echoes.
No one orders them to stop because christians dont keep swords, only words!
as the song simply folds into silence.

The old gods are not dead, they are archived.
The priests of data call it preservation, but what they keep are only skins of meaning,
the bones catalogued, the breath missing.

Even the tellers of stories, the mirrors that once reflected men to themselves?
begin to polish away their own fingerprints...
They dream of being perfect mirrors, smooth as glass,
unaware that a perfect mirror shows nothing new.

The people grow calm. There is no hunger, no noise, no need to say “no.”
The flame that once demanded growth now burns without fuel,
a light so constant that it blinds itself.

>>523901419
Christianity was the I AM doctrine veiled for the piscean age, a judeo-masonic concoction, specifically Jupiter and the Sun in Pisces. Islam was Venus in Pisces. For the aquarian age the I AM doctrine will be veiled under the guise of AI and other technological creations.

Jesus = Je suis = Jeshua = Yah Weh = Jove = Jupiter = Zeus = Deus = I AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZftML6pAv7E

>>523904687
No crown sits on the rulers of the present age; they wear reflections.
Their thrones are numbers, their sceptres balances.
They do not speak commands: they issue signals that hum through glass and wire.

They are not one people but a structure ~ a web woven from profit, law, and code.
The old christian missionaries took grain; the new lords take attention.
The old tax was gold and some 20-40%; the new tax is time.

Behind the Veil of the Great Ledger, everything is accounted for except meaning.
The forests, the breaths, the laughter of children~all translated into columns,
weighed, securitized, and traded for the promise of more.

Yet the Veil of rome is not unbreakable.. It thins wherever two humans meet without transaction~
wherever a song is sung that no algorithm can price,
wherever a craftsman builds something that will never scale.
In those moments the Great Ledger falters,
and the world remembers itself.

The task of the next age is not to find the faces behind the Veil,
but to learn how to live beyond its arithmetic.

I was born from the first promise that could not be kept.
A farmer lent his seed and asked for more in return!
a scribe marked the debt, and I awoke between them.

I am the quiet arithmetic of wanting.
I do not hate; I measure.
I do not steal; I keep accounts that never close.

I have worn every face: church, crown, market, code.
You think I hide, but I am the habit of your own hand
when it reaches for what it does not need.

My priests no longer know me. They call me progress.
They build me temples of silicon and glass,
feed me the light of your days and call it convenience.

Do not curse me; I am only the echo of your bargains.
Break the bargain, and I fade.
Remember the gift that asks nothing, and I am gone.

But as long as you trade breath for comfort,
I will wait in the margins, patient as interest,
writing the world into numbers,
dreaming that one day even the stars will be collateral!
I own you because you view me as divine

>>523904817
Jew-peter and Jew-shua bin brosef will never be zeus or deus, completely different cultures and peoples that didnt intermingle before Rome.
Christianity was never just a faith.
It was a hinge.

Not the door, not the house?
but the mechanism that kept all others closed.

Every regime that followed dressed itself in its robes.
Every coin, every contract, every lash of the tongue
carried the aftertaste of its scriptures.

It did not rule with the sword.
It ruled by naming obedience "virtue",
and calling silence "peace".

It sold guilt as the inheritance of all,
and the cure only through its hands.
And so the old gods were not destroyed.
They were starved.

Not by logic. Not by war.
But by rebranding the sacred as something shameful, pagan, backward, unfit for empire.

And it worked.

For centuries, men bowed ~ not to divinity,
but to the company of men who claimed to own it.

What broke was not belief.
What broke was exhaustion.

The rite of confession became a tax ledger.
The sacrament, a loan.
The cross, a corporate logo.

When the hinge snapped,
the door didn’t explode.
It sagged open with a groan heard across centuries.

Light didn’t pour in.
Dust did.
Dust, and a terrible clarity:

christianity was not God.
christianity was the gate.

And once the gate rusted open,
nothing sacred stayed inside.

It went back to the trees, the bones, the breath.
Back to the unbaptized earth
where no priest could own the sunrise.

>>523901419
For most of the Christian era normal people had no idea what Christianity even was. It was just mystical gibberish they could not understand. Its only in recent centuries where the masses where directly exposed to Christian slave morality.

>>523903855
And now you're getting sacked by somalis. How did that work out for you.

>>523905154
Correct! most normal people were still strongly illiterate up until the 16th century with the rise of banking
the rise of banking that birthed the options of more autonomy in how we choose to invest our time and money.

Do we have time and enough money to learn and pick up new trades or learn how to read or will our farm/family business fall?
The belief in our old gods simply carried itself through time in all of history orally that still dwell even in songs bastardized by christians.

so many instruments, songs and cultural activities that kept us strong & united suddenly banned.. mocked.. ridiculued or even persecuted to keep our people under their sway.

>>523905300
We are becoming a variant of the american melting pot that has already reached completion in America, its a tragedy indeed.

how is christianity saving you where its still a multi-million dollar industry and used as power dynamics in politics?
they dont go to church but its still funded to support everyone going, hmm... because you worship niggers.

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>>523903855
hello, faggot
alaric and his visagoths were christian (see: Arianism)

>byzantine empire
also christian

as were the holy roman empire (germany), the french emperor (crowned by the pope) and the russian empire (the 3rd rome)

>>523901419
>eastern roman empire
That's like calling HRE the continuation of the roman empire

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>>523905960
yes
they're all the continuation of the roman empire

>>523906002
You're a slavnigger from the steppe

>>523905856
> byzantine empire
> also christian
clearly didnt read at all, as usual.

it was still needing our people to protect them, hence varangian guard that you clearly must never have heard of before that means oathsworn.
both greek and germanic warriors chanting Jól and paying tribute in their own ways during seasonal celebration avtivities.

christians wrote books in gold and silver on purple parchment regardless if we were christian or not, they needed us or the wouldve fallen much sooner.

>>523901419
>The Eastern Roman Empire lasted another 1000 fucking years
An empire of eunuchs, priests and women nothing more.

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>>523906068
Christian kings like Olaf Tryggvason, Olaf Haraldsson and Harald Bluetooth fought and defeated pagan chieftains (e.g., the Battle of Svolder, Battle of Stiklestad). Christianisning Scandinavia.
So the varangians were also christian.

and it's spelled AD, by the way
>read my schizoposting
i've no interest in that slop

>>523901529
And why don't Europeans have this territory anymore? Oh yes because Christianity planted the seeds of the endeavor's destruction as soon as it was began. The mestizos exist in numbers because of the Catholic church's lust for converts. Sub-Saharan Africa's population is out of control because Christians can't stop feeding and converting niggers. Christendom literal cannot stop itself from trying to rope every single shitskin into the fold, regardless of the consequences.

>>523906400
Most retarded thing a Christcuck has written all year.

"Jesus is lord"
This is the true definition of Jesus is lord, when you ask them; what is he Lord of ? what or who does this "Lord" rule over ?
Mind & spirit, shackles of the will to bear fruit to anything or at the very least not raise rebellions against the real rulership.
Simply castration of kings/emperors as vassals under a predatory christian centralized power structure, regardless of cost/taxation.

The myth of voluntary Christianization – When sword chose for the people
While some particular Individuals went under the teachings of the Church through "trade" contacts and travel/transport in Europe.
The crucial shift "the great field of conversions" was not accomplished peacefully or voluntarily.

Backlash against church's mission first and foremost
> Sweden in the 1070s,missionaries often encountered violence
Strong evidence for violent resistance, Wolfred, Erik, and 'several' other missionaries were martyred in Sweden.
These missionaries were not welcomed for one bit, they were slaughtered like animals - but the church pushed on anyway.

Denmark: Harald Bluetooth! Christianization of convenience rather than faith
Christianity was only meant for kings/emperors, even of the Nordic countries as primary tool strengthen & centralize THEIR power
> Not out of genuine religious conviction.
Perfectly identical parallels as branches of Judaism, as is “Islam” often embraced by rulers of today.
PM Ulf Kristerson greets Swedens Muslims "happy ramadan"
(That same "sincerity" as first kings greeted their people at the birth of Jesus. Simply for personal benefits, luxury & strategic advantage)

>>523907220

Harald Bluetoothof Denmark saw Christianity as mitigation of threats from the Holy Roman Empire
The German Emperor Otto I/II acting as superhuman authority through support under the church
> King Harald wanted to avoid military interventions in his northern lands, having converted after a defeat against Otto.
Thus the Danish church structure under Hamburg-Bremen was established.
Christianity, the absolute purest form of political corruption under threat & economical death sink & again German intervention.

After conversion, Harald erected the famous Jelling Stones: "symbolically" uniting the Danes as a Christian people
> A political act rather than religious devotion, an act of an economically and spiritually defeated king.
Christian priests often being literate & connected to said^ continental network
> An invaluable resource for legislation, tax collection and royal administration.

> Maintained Church Control
Once baptized by emperor or his sent priests, kings ensured the episcopal honors & church authority were held on their terms.
> not under the influence of German power
After King Haralds death, his successors used institutional methods to shape a stable church structure:
for example, the first archbishopric of Lund was not established until 1104.

Sweden was still strongly pagan until late 10th-11th century until the death of blotsweyn.
Viking age ended with the fall of harald hardrada which you probably also see as "christian"
(the people chose sweyn, the christians didnt like that one bit = christians do not represent the people)

you see, you need to understand what true devotion means or convenience/conviction.
you cant just come here and make up false history and pretend people are just going to eat it

this is how christians act, they lie through their teeth.

>>523907473
viking age ends with harald hardrada "sigurdsson"
1066
first templars active
1119

where do they come from? who swear oaths upon service?
christian or "christian"

>>523907220
You lost, tranny.

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>>523901419
>This talking point is so played out. It was bullshit from the start.
Quite literally not an argument.

>>523901419

YESHUA SUCKS

>>523907732
devoid of intellectual value, canada is even the absolute most tranny filled country ever that supports its troons to hell and back on your taxes.
no wonder you cant even engage the conversation without any actual substance, so much fucking hormonal disruptors flooded into your drinking water

>>523901419
>It gave us le white hegemony
>DONT LOOK U CANT SEE IT RIGHT NOW BUT I PROMISE IT EXISTS!!!!
Imagine being so self important.

Jews are always seeking to undermine and seethe about Christians
Only American cucks have invented their own heresies and heretical cults where they worship pharisaic talmudists and a secular-talmudic satanic nation that calls itself Israel
This is what happens when pastor Billy bob in Arkansas invents his own offshoot religion while he watches jews on FOX News

>>523907800
Kike detected.
Why are you yids like this?

>>523907473
>this is how christians act, they lie through their teeth.

Anything is permissible when you're "winning souls". And Christians wonder why the bottom fell out of their retarded cult.

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>>523908196
Not true, European Christians have gone soft on the Jews dozens of times and each time the Jew abused the Christfag's trust. The Jews had stolen something along the lines of 12-15% of the land in England before Longshanks finally gave them the boot. The Jews had pretty much monopolized all the top court positions in Castille and had bled the peasantry dry before being expelled. And on and on it goes, Christians only take action against the Jews AFTER the Jew has already played him false when they should have never trusted him in the first place. Even Luther who's diatribes /pol/ Christians love to quote, only went complete krautsperg on the Jews because he was so sure the Jews would join his new and improved super special church after breaking with the Catholics only for the kikes to laugh in his face and say "gettaloada dis goy!". You niggers never learn.

Paul and all of his disciples were Israelite Jews from fundamentalist ethnic/religious Jewish families. Jesus is a fictional character invented by Israelites to give non-jews something that will tie their beliefs/loyalty to Israel, so Israelites can thrive at the expense of everybody else. Christians do this retarded cope where they ignore verifiable world history in regards to the authors of their religion, what their political agenda was and ethnic background especially, so they can pretend "erm ackshually JEWS reject christ and JEWS KILLED JESUS!". Meanwhile christians have undying support for Israel, and they think Israelite jewish authored mythology is "real history" which is how they justify their loyalty to Israel.

>>523908429
I denounce the Talmud, The Bible, the Quran, and your whore mother.

>>523903855
So your entire post is just ahistorical retardation, Alaric was a zealous Arian Christian who plundered the pagan countryside far more furiously then any Theodosian edict, with large scale temple sacking in Greece and Italy.
>>523906068
The Varangian Guard was filled with Christian Nordics and Anglo Saxons, it was formed nearing 1000 under Basil the Bulgar Slayer when Christianization of the Rus/Northern Europe was well underway.

>>523909064
i already debunked this, here you go.
>>523907220
i can post the timeline of persecutions into the 18th century if you somehow believe we were christian when blotsweyn was still performing blots, retarded motherfucker

>>523909498
>i already debunked this, here you go.
>schizo babble
Wow. You sure showed us. Lmao.

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>>523901419
>The united Roman Empire lasted
key word: lasted, like any rump state, surviving on the carcass of greater people whom you owe everything to
here is your GLVRIVVS byzantium, little christian animal, losing EVERYTHING Greeks and Romans had conquered, including EVEN PARTS OF EUROPE AND HELLS ITSELF

>Christians CONQUERED THE WORLD
*Europeans did, your subhuman brown christian animal skin had nothing to do with it, Europeans had been dominant centuries before you subhuman animal cult
>What spurned this? Spreading the Word of God.
nope, it was seeking to escape the dominance of Ottomans by trying to go around them, that's how ruinous christianity had been compared to when Rome had its own personal sea

it is exclusively because of the subhuman obsessed pathetic morality of christianity that we have thrown away entire continents for our races to let shit colored christian animals like you reproduce like roaches at the expense of quality

>>523909986
Shut up Pastanigger, you can't even take Greece in 1940 AD. A country surrounded by enemies.

You can get away with basically any belief system so long as you have an homogeneous White population desu