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Zelensky is ultra pissed. Turns out Europe failed to steal the russian money, and only got 90 billion dollars from the 136 billion that he demanded. Used to have infinite money, his cabinet was scandalized by various politicians fleeing to Tel Aviv with hundreds of millions of US dollars, including his own defense minister. Without an endless supply of money, there is no way Ukraine can pay its leadership, by Zelensky's own admission.

Once again, the USA betrays Zelensky by not paying him 136 billion dollars in 2025, and Europe fails to fill the gap.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/eu-leaders-agree-ukraine-financing-2026-27-belgiums-approval-key-2025-12-18/

Authoritarian governments like Hungary were still pissed with the decision, because it is the worst combination of all outcomes, as it includes financing the war so it continues, not paying enough so Zelensky can win, while damaging the finances of EU citizens in the process. Belgium, the biggest stick in the mud that refused to let Europe end SWIFT by robbing its clients on broad daylight, is glad with the decision.

Zelensky has not said thank you yet, he is dead silent, as he loses his upperhand by missing 46 billion dollars ahead of negotiations with Trump in Washington D.C.
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>>523907897
>end SWIFT by robbing its clients
This isn't about SWIFT, this is about seizing sovereign assets of other countries.
There is no precedent for doing this, it was never done in history before. Not even the assets of Literal Actual Hitler were stolen during WW2.
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>>523907897
At this point, we need Putin to genocide Ukraine, just to save ourselves
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>>523907897
Of course we're still sending to the beggar of Kiev
At least my prime minister was able to prevent complete disaster for waffle land
I guess that's the best we could have hoped for
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>start a new war in europe by doing maidan and gassing ukraine up that they'll get to join NATO if they play ball
>bail halfway through and leave europe with the bill
pssh nothin personnel kids
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>>523907897
>not paying enough so Zelensky can win
this amount of money doesn't exist
and it's not about anything but legally genociding the population of ukraine via kidnap conscript anyway
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>>523907897
I don't get it, what does he need the money for? He doesn't have enough men. Is it for hiring mercenaries or something?
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>>523907897
this is not a money question and the majority will go to corruption not to anything because ukraines elites see it as a theft opportunity

operationally they are a mecernary state
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what a cuckolding circus. How about taking the zigger money for ourselves as reparations?
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>>523907897
HAHAHHAHAHAHAH I WAS SO WISE TO START BUYING DOLLAR HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>523908944
if you steal money we lose our location advantage it is ultra mega mega ultra retarded to even talk about it
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>>523909074
the euro is dipping right now just from this shit being talked about.
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>>523909074
>location advantage
?
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>>523907897

Zelensky still getting 90 billion (half what he asked) funny money to keep slaughter house working. One more year dead orcs.
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>>523908944
Then no one will invest anymore in Europe, dumb retard
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"Robbing money from taxpayers" makes no sense
if taxpaying is stealing then that money has already been stolen from taxpayers and is theirs to spend however they see fit

you fix your shithole instead of worrying about eu tax policies
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>>523907996
>it was never done in history before
It's a very basic opening move in a war, almost always happens
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>>523907897
Shit like this makes me think the EU will cease to exist by 2030. How can a so called bloc of nations be so weak, pretentious and divided? It's like watching a wealthier version of central America and I don't mean this in a good way
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>>523909208
you'll all start getting sent before too long because they're going to run out of hohols to kidnap to fight it for all the eurocucks that insist it needs to keep going cause they hate russia, but refuse to go there themselves
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>>523907996
I would let them do it.
Nothing would destroy EU faster then using Russian assets. Nobody would invest a single cent in EU after that.
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>>523909237
russian wishful thinking
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I fucking hate this new captcha
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>>523907996
wut
gaddafi had 50(?) billions seized
some other corrupt asian and african shitholes had their assets seized too
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>>523908578
Belgium saved the SWIFT and the dollar standard yesterday. Single-handedly, and from people who are not nearly as smart as their positions demand.
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>>523908765
did you forget about the part where an english fuckface promised ukraine to JP Morgan?
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nobody will stop investing in the second largest consumer market in the world, retards are falling for American propaganda hook line and sinker.
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>>523907897
Somebody post those tweets talking about how the US should have free stuff like Europe does.

All that free stuff was being subsidized by the US defense payed for by US taxpayers. Now that the subsidies are over, the free stuff is going away.

Why doesn't the US have free stuff like Europe does? Because the US is a grown-up country, not a child country like Europe that has daddy pay all its bills so it can buy candy and comic books.
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>>523909520
>American
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>>523909483
Yes
By raiding pension funds of EU citizens (again)
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>>523909474
The fear is that China, which is a big investor, will pull out seeing another major power's assets being treated like African shitholes while not even being at war.
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>>523909452
It is slowly filtering all the third-worlders. It is unfair.
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>>523909208
Who is growing ukraines clone army?
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Who the fuck is that nigger?
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>>523909316
> It's a very basic opening move in a war, almost always happens
Name one instance from history then.

>>523909474
>gaddafi had 50(?) billions seized
>some other corrupt asian and african shitholes had their assets seized too
Those weren't sovereign (i.e. central bank) assets.

International bankers really, really DO NOT like it when someone fucks with the international central banking system.
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>>523909673
>By raiding pension funds of EU citizens
Fake news. We don't have pension funds.
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>>523907897
Why is russia entitled to steal half of a country you sub human nigger who should be killed on sight?
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>>523909698
The Kaaskops aka Oranjes already have done that with Nexperia.

More lawless than USA lmao, at least Trump actually paid to get TikTok.
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>>523909831
central bank assets were among seized and frozen assets
that and sovereign fund assets are the reason why the sum is so huge
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>>523909483
The EU is fucked either way because they put themselves in a lose-lose situation. Now they need to borrow money to pay zelensky, which the yuropoor peasant will have to shoulder in the form of austerity/tax hikes
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>>523909853
because its their own country not another country. western russia has always been part of russia ukraines claim to it was always illegitimate
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>>523909520
Consumers aren't some sort of scarce and valuable resource, you potatobrain retard.
China has consumers at home.
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>>523909640
same thing, always has been.
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Maybe we should just stop sending money and see what happens? Maybe they will figure things out and become peaceful with each other down there? Putin promises peace.
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>>523910162
>Europe isn't a reliable partner let's go to China
lol
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>>523909853
Why do you think globohomo should be allowed to break apart countries upon its whim?
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>>523910305
cool it with the antisemitic remarks

wait is this still the Israel thread
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>>523910347
Who are you talking to?
China has more consumers than Europe and USA combined, and anyways this is about Eurogays trying to fuck with the central banking system, not consooooomer markets. Do you even understand the difference?
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>>523909520
Dumb fucking retard
Sovereign immunity for central-bank reserves is one of the strongest norms in international finance. If such fundamental laws, codified in European countries themselves, are violated, then confidence in Europe's financial system is undermined all the way down. If even the most protected type of asset can be seized simply out of political hysteria, what's left for other types of assets?
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>>523907897
Better than robbing them of their lives, which Russia does to its men everyday.
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>>523909853
why does zelensky think hes entitled to everyone's money? fund your own war thieving nigger
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>>523910634
Kek. But for real though, what if we just let them settle it themselves? Slavic wars are not our concern.
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>>523910772
1 million+ Ukrainians are already dead. EU won't stop until Ukraine doesn't have adult men left.
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>>523910863
because russia BAD, you see
also the whole thing is just a refuse grinder for unwanted demographics taking up room they need for palestianians and a shit ton of jeets
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>>523909853
Can Serbia have Kosovo back then? West stole it from them..
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>>523907897
there's no realistic scenario where russia is getting any of that money back. the loans granted to ukraine basically also will be paid back by russia via reparations. and since the european economies are decoupled from russian ones, russia holds no leverage over the eu

lmao. russia's pyrrhic victory in ukraine will go down as the beginning of a new world order, the west alongside the former east (russia) being entirely removed from the world stage as relevant actors and china dominating the centuries, perhaps even millennia to come
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>>523911481
>being entirely removed from the world stage as relevant actors and china dominating the centuries, perhaps even millennia to come
all of this is organic btw, nothing about any of this is forced
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>>523911481
>the loans granted to ukraine basically also will be paid back by russia via reparations
lol
All plans relied upon putting a neoliberal puppet in Moscow which will never happen
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>>523910676
it will still be at least a decade before the average Zhao has the same appeal as the average Joe or the average Pierre
>>523910732
calm your tits nobody talked about central bank assets Chaim
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>>523911717
for the west, russia was merely a resource supplier (we bought your resources, you bought our machines and consultants, you ur criminals bought your guns). china, on the other hand, not only has replaced us in this position but also, in addition to that, is buying up your land and/or setting-up longterm leases and takingover power in key industries and state positions. you know what former is called? economic dependence. and do you know what latter is called? COLONIZATION
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>>523907996
>Not even the assets of Literal Actual Hitler were stolen during WW2.
Actually they did acquire those.
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>>523909237
that's good actually
poverty is righteous and all that.
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btw did you know American banks ate up around 50 billions assets from Gheddafi between treasure bonds and shell accounts and they are never going to hand them back to the Libyan state? It can be done. It's always been done.
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>>523909520
>American propaganda
america wouldn't mind that though, half of it would go to the US
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>>523909831
Didn't Venezuela seize America-owned refineries and oil infrastructure when Chavez came to power?
Also what became of foreign-owned assets in Russia after the revolution?

Let me guess...
>it's okay when we do it
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>>523909831
>>523909932
>https://www.perplexity.ai/search/were-there-any-instance-where-TSpfz2f3T66rqYcAA06LsA
Central banking is a relatively modern invention, but it still common.

"Direct central bank cases
In 1916–1917, Romania sent its central bank gold reserves to Moscow for safekeeping; the new Soviet government formally confiscated this gold in January 1918 and never returned it, often cited as the first modern sanctions case involving central‑bank assets."
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>>523907897
Lol, it's a fucking loan meaning they want it back, Zelensky must be fuming.
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pay up yurogolems
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>>523913352
Ukrainian bonds are worth less than toilet paper.
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>>523908683
part and parcel.
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>>523910186
to be fair, if you consider p*tin to be a cia agent sent to disrupt european unitiy a lot of things start to make sense
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>>523908754
genocide what they have 60 million or so. thats 30 million men. 1 million or so are dead. 3 years?

i guess this will only take 90 years then or MAYBE just maybe its bullshit.
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>>523913540
>genocide what they have 60 million or so
Maybe in the 90s, there are less than 30 million left right now.
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>>523913647
because theyre fleeing not because they get killed, retard.
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>>523913723
As if they're ever going to return. There is no timeline from here on where Ukraine isn't a failed state.
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>>523907897
The Ukraine needs manpower, not money. Men are running out. With each passing day, it becomes increasingly difficult to find men on the street to kidnap.
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>>523913857
its way more sinister than that my dear.
there is no timeline from here on where the entire EU isn't a failed state.

do you think we can resist the nigger hordes onslaught for much more? off course not.
theyre murdering everyone left and right.

the knife crimes are OUT OF CONTROL. the police is finished. they cant handle all of this niggercrime anymore.
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>>523914301
When are you moving back to russia?
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>>523913857
WE HAVE A WAR INSIDE THE EU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

russians are completely irrelevant for now, the imported saboteur hordes are way way worse than that bECAUSE THEYRE INSIDE OUR HOUSE!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>523914301
>there is no timeline from here on where the entire EU isn't a failed state.
I'm aware. Everyone is just stepping more dynamite on the suicide vest for when it all decays to shit.
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>>523912020
>calm your tits nobody talked about central bank assets Chaim
retards that dont know anything about the subject should just not even poast
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>>523908765
using it on golden toilets and drugs
he doesn't have enough of them
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>>523907897
Those are the people calling me "mutt", by the way.
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>>523914360
why are we still silent about it then?
when is the same shit happening here like in nepal?
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>>523909483
And they will never forgive De Wever for it
From what I heard on waffle news, it sounds like he's spent all his political capital
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>>523914341
When are you moving back to Albania?
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>>523907996
Because there was no international order that Hitler brought down. Doing what Russia did in 2022 and is doing today is not the same as doing it in 1941. It's like hearing someone say
>B-b-b-but Columbus did this to the natives
Yeah, it was the 15th century.
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>>523912869
It'd be possible if the EU wasnt dependent on Russian energy.
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>>523915072
You don't know shit. If there were no risks, the money would have been stolen long time ago. Retarded morons like you should kill themselves.
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>>523908765
That fucking bong jew with the funny haircut remember? Promised ukraine to his hook nosed brethren. Those fucking anglos should be nuked from the face of the earth.
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>>523908578
Our previous PM would have rolled over. Thank god
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>>523916391
Yeah De Croo absolutely would have
I've never liked Bartje but I have to cut him some slack now for preventing this absolute disaster
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>>523915444
Well, I am glad you know shit, so you can explain it to everyone else. No shit there are risks. There's risks with everything in life. I'm not surprised a Dutch guy is concerned about banks though. International banking is a cancer and this move would only accelerate the excision of said cancer.
>B-b-b-b-but China won't trust us and India won't trust us to put their money in our banks
Yeah, well everyone who dares to start wars on your border should also be smart enough not to keep their money in your country.
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>>523916391
>>523916658
I don't know why anyone expected Belgium to take the risks on its own. The idea would be absurd among 5 year olds, let alone at this level.
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>>523907996
thee was nothing to steal from germany
because Gemany was alread robbed and pilllaged by the treaty of Versaille
you stupid russian nigger
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>>523916658
If he stopped with the civic nationalism and took the race pill he'd be perfect
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>>523916658
>>523916391
Belgium saved the entire dollar standard and the european union. Even Putin was laughing off the idea of stealing russian money, telling Europe to make his day and doom the West by doing it.
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>>523916391
Big Vik has his back.
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>>523907996
Sidnt usa take gold from every european country for protection? Its happened before hasnt it it happened with Iran money. If I was a country I would be worried and would try to end the global monopoly in banking and the banking system.
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>>523909208
O hear most have already fled to israel.
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>>523910024
how about your are about your own worthless shithole
you nigger
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>>523909831
There was news reporting of nato airlifting gold from lybia. Kadafies son is asking for it. The country was great kadafy really was a unique human being.

The shit the country had was great, if you watch the old videos theres good people out there who were beating up rebels.
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>>523907996
>Not even the assets of Literal Actual Hitler were stolen during WW2.
You're actually wrong. FDR froze (stole) the assets and specifically gold of every single European government that either joined the Axis or was invaded by the Axis, and he did it before he was at war with the Axis.
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>>523907996
every word out of a russian mouth is a lie. germans assets were both frozen and seized during ww2
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>>523907996
>There is no precedent for doing this, it was never done in history before
Stop lying you retarded churka. Does the theft of the Romanian treasury or the Spanish gold sound familiar? You thieves are famous for having done this before.
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>>523907897
>Without an endless supply of money, there is no way Ukraine can pay its leadership
LMAO
LMFAO even
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>>523909908
Trump paid for tiktok.


The whole thing was a strong arm larry Ellison wanted tiktok and mad usa do its dirty work. The whole thing is embarrassing and shameful, and what for the government didnt own it some rando jewish billionaire who is pro israel and a Zionist owns it. Where is the talk of america needing to own it. The whole thing so pointless. Theres facebook instagram does america own parts of there business? America was against public ownership of things but it only seems to be for something and not others.

America has lost it's no longer for the people its for israel. People will be leaving soon an immigrants will take over and it will just get poorer and poorer until it's like a failed state like somali. It happening in israel. All the smart ones left for Cyprus. It's the problem with israel everyones a dual citizenship so no one really gives a shit. When you are in a host nation you are practising it's easy to fight them do political shit steal lie but what happens when the enemies are t the gates you got nothing and you love your family you will probably try to get them out or leave it's great cos you dont have to escape you already have a citizenship in another country you have friends and family there why stay and die it makes no sense. We have countries in this world that is not for any ethnicity or relligion it's all non secular. I think it's like 20p countries that are not ethnically based or relligion based but israel is the only state in the fucking world that is for only one race and relligion
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>>523917228
unironically shilling for asiatic autocrats is cringe
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>>523908019
Kek you guys will endlessly float the Ukraine even after the war
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>>523908765
Cocaine isn't cheap.
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>>523909853

>steal half of a country
It's not theft you dumb, it's called conquest.
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>>523907897
That poojeet is a professional thief, you can count on him to rob EU taxpayers as much as possible
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>>523910347
when everybody is an unreliable partner, then what matters is competence
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>>523916984
I've just wanted to hear one journalist ask this to any politician in the EU:
If everyone's so convinced that this is going save Ukraine and win against the Russians that they'll have to pay reparations, why isn't a single country willing to make any formal agreement to share the risk?
If the ukies are going to slaughter the ruskies and make them collapse this should be a no-brainer
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>>523911004
>that bottom left post
Holy shit, is this nigger serious?
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>>523918717
This should be put on a shirt. Beautifully said.
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>>523907897
get fucked zelenskike
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>>523916391
De Croo would’ve sold out so fast topkek liberals must never get into our government again
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>>523907897
Based retards!
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>>523916984
>The idea would be absurd among 5 year olds, let alone at this level

EU leadership throws all common sense, foresight and longtern thinking out of the window when it comes to the Ukraine. Europe seems willing to fight a world war for it, while the entire world screams in terror that this is the dumbest idea ever conceived. I was shocked that the belgian guy actually spooked Europe into not stealing lawfully made deposits in SWIFT because Zelensky said he has a right for them. I was 100% expecting the EU to hand over 136 billion in stolen russian money to Zelensky today.
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>>523907897
>"Brazil"
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>>523917510
Bush's grandfather was caught laundering money for Hilter. Its not that simple.
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>>523907897
if they took the money, what's stopping them from taking money from Qatar? Brazil? You'd lose more than 90B. That this was even aired as a legitimate idea is beyond me.
There should be a ceasefire, peace talks and then a formal discussion of reparations (for both sides, Donbass is bombed to shit too) and once both parties are committed those funds could be used. And that's only if you agree to the premise that the EU had the right to confiscate those funds in the first place.
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>>523910305
sure, and then we let the Baltics get taken over, then Poland etc. let's see how it works out
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>>523907897
How broke is Europe that it’s a struggle to find $100 billion dollars? It’s going to be this + military aid + reconstruction funds + EU integration funds for like twenty years
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>fail to agree to use frozen Russian assets
Woah I wonder who is behind this.



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