it's more corporate greed than anything
>>523916246Why would it drop in central states?
Is this adjusted for inflation? Because I think it's also easily explained by diluting the shit out of our currency.
>>523916246still waiting for one of you edge lords to explain to me how data centers use massive amounts of water
Is there any addict thread that doesn't tell people to stop doing something .
>AIor government subsidies for it
>>523916633it doesn't destroy the water molecules. it just moves them through a process called evaporation. maybe its not a great thing to do, i'm not sure it will obviously rain down somewhere but probably not where it came from so maybe cause some drain on the local water table or lakes
>>523916246Flyover states keep winning! Cityfags hardest hit.
>>523916633water is used to cool servers, retard
>>523916511Also government subsidies expiring
>>523916246i changed my mind on ai after finding good ai music channels on youtube this one is particular good, ai music is fucking good and some of it are real bangershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGyg7I21rAchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70e7V7EDxvYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es6kfKe1M3shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ng1PoCiYgDU
>>523916246It's capitalism baby. Regulations are for commies and hinder business development.
>>523916950Are you claiming that it is consumed into nothingness or disappears in some other magical cooling process?
>>523916246wait I thought... I thought trump was going to bring prices down?
>>523917092How do freshwater sources get depleted in your retard model of the hydrology cycle? Flat earth, I assume?
>>523916573increased oil drilling also produces natural gas which in some of those states have a high level of natural gas power plants and/or pipeline close to the oil fields. Natural gas is going right from many fields into the pipeline and straight to a power plant.
>>523917092>leftist word gameswhen you die the atoms that make up your body are not destroyed, so it makes no difference to kill you.
>>523917248>>523917092>>523916633>>523916794it literally doesn't even matter. they will all be closed loop systems soon
Work a second job, lazy fucks. Real men sleep on the factory floor.
>>523917011Hard Archive is better
>>523916246AI is the excuse. Most of the datacenters aren't even online yet.
>>523916633>>523916794Fucks up the water cycle due to the huge volumes of water drawn, and it contaminates the water with metals and things like solvents from the cooling loops
>>523917445Wow. One single company is making marginal improvements on water usage. It still doesn’t solve the contamination issue, that water has to go somewhere eventually. Either during a drain and flush of the system, or EOL for the data center
>>523916246made up chart nice.. anyway, as I was saying. The bottom of my balls (just before my anus on the scrotim) gets really sweaty. Is that normal? If I scrape it also it's like a sludge of dead skin and sweat under my finger nails. It smells like sweet popcorn.
>>523917011they're shit, anon
>>523917011That slop sounds awful and you’re a retard for liking it
Evaporation was always closed loop. The problem is on the heat rejection side or getting a cool medium to exchange heat with (the loop around the condenser) you can do air cool but its inefficient at scale. Air cooling is the norm actually, it just inefficient. You can do heat rejection via circulating relatively cool fresh water that happens to be nearby or dig wells where pipes reject heat to the ground. Cooling towers dont lose that much water, it's not nothing but when you talk vs what you lose in an average golfing course than we're talking china vs everyone else.
>>523916246Based Permian Basin.
>>523916246Damn. Why is the south spared from this?Southernchads...we just can't lose. Wether it's food. Politics..whatever
>>523916246Bruh You seriously need to chill outThis is not as serious as you would like to think it isThis is seriously not a big deal. You're hysterical but what you need to do is just CALM.DOWN.
>>523919247If this is true then why do these data centers have much more water inputs vs outputs?
>>523919475I don't like paying higher electricty prices>You seriously need to chill outThis is not as serious as you would like to think it isThis is seriously not a big deal. You're hysterical but what you need to do is just CALM.DOWN.no
>>523919548Each hydronic line needs a make-up line for the initial fill of the system and maintenance. Like I said some water does get carried away in the cooling towers but its peanuts. You need to refill the loops occasionally. If youre talking raw input and output than you need to show me where youre seeing that cause sounds like BS. A groundwater loop pipe would circulate a lot of water but it wouldn't consume water
People keep blaming price increases on data centers, but I don't see actual proof of that.It's just a claim that spreads without any real backing. I'm not saying it's wrong, but it's just convenient to point at everybody's favorite bogeyman (AI). In fact, I just assume I'm dealing with a redditor when I hear it.I think it's obviously inflation. They're just hiding the significant inflation behind lots of excuses.>Oh your gas went up 45%?>Supply and demand goy>Oh your electricity now costs 3x as much?>Supply and demand and data centers>Oh rent went up 60%?>Supply and demand and housing crisis>Your grocery bill went up 80%?>You guessed it, supply and demand>Stop talking about inflation. We already told you that was 3%>Everything costs more, your money isn't worth less.>What are you talking about goy?
>can't have an auto plant open, it would raise electricity, tools and water prices
these data centers are going to build their own power plants and feed excess back to the grid lowering your power billits only been 3 years since ai went mainstream. just 3 years. give it time. the internet in its first 3 years was seen by some as a fad only good for email.
>>523921453AI meme centers have diesel generators that generate cancer agents in the air
>>523917248ever heard of Lake Owens, dipshit?
>>523921602You don't hear about it much, but the great salt lake is drying out.
>>523921572you think they can build nuclear power plants in just a couple years? you think all the potential for ai has already been reached, based on 3 years? think of the first 3 years of any technology
>>523917445>I believe what corporate press releases tell me.
>>523921790you can build anythingwhat they are doing is diesel generators and those literally spew cancer in the air
>>523921453>these data centers are going to build their own power plants and take over your local grid, making you dependent on them to power your home. ftfy Can't wait for rolling blackouts in homes and hospitals as the data center prioritizes heavy usage due to new baby shark memes.
>>523922222they are doing nuclear but they can't do that overnight, the diesel is temporary, or it better be because yeah i agree going diesel on this is unacceptable. but diesel is expensive, they have financial reasons to go nuclear so i believe they will. and the regulations are in place for it and they said they would and most importantly to them it would be more profitable.
>>523922864AI is memeit is stonk pump memeliterally vaporware
>>523922261then regulate it. the solution isn't to abandon a potentially very useful technology in its infancy. >>523922972it's only been 3 years, it's too soon to say that
>>523923026you are fucking retarded
>>523917268Thank you anon
>>523923083yeah? so what if i am?
>>523923158buy every top
>>523923262if i had bought bitcoin in its first 3 years i would be rich
>>523923354you would be rich if you sellnot if you buyyou are retarded
>>523919596You dont like a lot of things you have to doI know you and everyone like you. Hysterical little homunculus
>>523916246Oh nooooo the poor liberals are going to get even poorer! Lmao, anyway.
>>523923398you pay capital gains tax when you say but not on yield. thats what rich people do with stonks and crypto they just chill on the yields and dividends.
>>523922075>I believe corpos will buy water forever>even though closed loop systems already exist
>>523923742put your entire net-worth of 27 dollars into AI meme stonks and then take a loan against them
>>523916246Is that the nigger belt in blue?Redpill me on blue region
>>523924019i can't, i need that for groceries
>>523924259ask the AI to get you some groceries
New York also shut down a bunch of their power plants and are slowly making gas furnaces illegal.
>>523924135Oklahomos are the most powerful race.
>>523924298it gave me a list of food banks in my area including requirements and hours of operation. thanks
>>523924135thats tornado alley. tornados wiped out a buncha people. electricity prices go down.
>>523923026>RegulationThe federal government is being dismantled, root branch and tree, or haven't you noticed. Laws are being passed that PREVENT regulation. Specifically they're trying to say states cannot regulate Data Centers or AI. Do you follow the news at all?
>>523924482>thats tornado alley.Ahh i was pretty close with niggers as a guess
>>523916511>corporate greedYes, the "corporations" are the ones solely responsible. The "corporation" will be put on trial and made to serve a sentence in jail.
>>523924542it's a tough call which is worse. you can avoid niggers. tornados you just roll the dice. get erased today. or not. so yeah no big deal.
>>523924490i'm talking about regulations on the power gridstopping states from kneecapping ai to protect whatever intellectual property nonsense is good. if you think they were going to regulate something good like protecting privacy or whatever you're delusional, that was never on the menu.
>>523924828>market forces at workliterally state mandated AI clopbuy the stonks please
>>523917445Wait their open loop cooling entire rooms? Hahahah your water wars are gonna be fun!
>>523924940maybe i'll dollar cost average into them with my $27 during the next bear market
>>523916633AIs take staying hydrated very seriously
>>523925497yeah credit max and buy the dip
>>523924733Its doable. But it won't happen. And neither will you getting off your ass for TKD or whatever. Just more low stakes shit flinging while the .1% gets off Scott free
>>523925710
When will Musk reply to Bernie about how he is planning to fund his Universal High Income and bring utopia to the masses?
>>523916633The water evaporates and is pushed away from it sorce by the wind and atmosphere pressure, ipt will eventually rain and that fresh water will ether end up in the ocean which will then become salt water or in another state depleting the fresh water source
>>523916633Well, they're not using closed loop coolants like most of us have for our CPUs. They're taking water (freshwater) out of resevoirs or directly through the mains, pumping it through cooling ducts connected to their servers, and letting the resulting evaporated moisture go into the air.With some really basic example numbers, it goes like this:>town needs 1,000L of water a day>the resevoir has the equivalent of 1,500L of water a day available>there is a daily surplus of 500L that mostly evaporates or drains away when left for a while>data centre is built>it needs 1,000L of water a day to keep the servers cool>there is now a demand for 2,000L of water a day>the resevoir cannot support that demand
>>523919929It's a bit of both, really.>greedy energy companies constantly want to raise prices>whenever an increase in demand occurs, they raise prices>data centres are now using lots of energy to function>this is giving the energy companies and excuse to raise prices>since energy goes up in price, so does the cost of manufacture>manufacturers also add on their own additional percentages to their products>this compounds all the way to the consumer, who now sees it as "inflation"
>>523916246
Stupid AI
>>523928105What the fuck am I even reading?
