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if you are an actual adult with a functioning brain and ability to use logic and reason then you must realize that every religion is a bunch of fairy tales to control retarded masses of people instead of anything that is grounded in reality
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>>523924751
>we need a middle eastern religion to convince people to have sex
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>>523924514
I'd post the history of atheism, but gay porn isn't my thing
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>>523925311
kekked and chekked
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>>523924514
>the bible predicts future events hundreds of times
>use logic and reason
ok I pick the Bible
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"we don't need a unifying moral structure to ensure a functional society and family system" - Atheists
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>>523925311
if you need religion to procreate then you deserve to go extinct
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>>523924514
I refuse to believe that nothing exploded into all the matter in the universe.
I refuse to believe this matter then congealed into spheres of molten rock.
I refuse to believe this rock, as it cooled created condensation which fell as rain and formed pools on top of the rocks.
I refuse to believe that this water then mixed with particles in the rock and evolved into humans
I REFUSE TO BELIEVE WE CAME FROM ROCKS.
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>>523925438
which event? be specific
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>>523925505
funnily enough, that's what's happening to atheists, not us
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>durrr let's abandon the primordial ue of our civilization,it's let dumb!!!
>cue secularism
>cue Hindus, Muslims and African Christians outbreeding degenerate white atheists

>REEEEE NOOO DONT MAKE ME PAY JIZZAH SIR MUHAMMADEENS!?! NOOO MY RELIGIOUS FREEDUM-ACK

shut the fuck up infidel,we conquer you,breed your women and worship OUR GOD and there's nothing you can do to stop it
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>>523925515
fortunately no one asked you retarded ass whether something should be true or not because some retard refuses to believe it
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>>523925547
you already admitted you would be gay without religion so you can leave this thread now. you don't have much else to contribute
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>>523924514
Thats cool, buddy. Change any minds today or just piss in the ocean of piss some more?
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>>523925621
>you already admitted you would be gay without religion
esl, sperg or jeet, hard to pick honestly
probably a combination
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>>523924514
Once this druoid meme you are not educates or smart priesthood class makes the state sropnpsoting this dumbass retarded shut remodner dragons ghost dmeons and apparitions rwal space is not real fake moon rocks dna is not real stuoid communist hello saranic gya baby fucking rabbis you meeting arr false yelstin admitted th earth is flst and space is fake atoms are not real juetrojs not real brain is mind mind is a compartment of the soul stop posting hou gay satsnic hitler mussolini and perain right stuoid bitch nine tailed foxes are real christ and mary not jews trojans are roman catholic sed is part sruodi bitch its not middle eastern you demon aqtabic heretics Leon degrelle ernst mach tesla marconi hertz volta you nogger ass stupid you are in need of being killed you are not people the hotl inquisition is holy the holy crusades you supi bitch you are porn prostitutes faggots tranny and queens and nigger pedo assholes need to be rounded uo and killed fstima and la sallete predicted hister and 3 other true crusader nostradamus you srupid inbred bitch demons piece of nigger shit fun fact moon race across inbres ilktierate and I killed meathead the Pearlman bitch Bourdain carradine and some of yout rabbis
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>>523925621
Muslims, Hindus and Africans will inherit the secularist west, because their dumb religion tells them to rape/breed and kill faggots
maybe leaving a religion that tells you to be fruitful and multiply was a bad idea?

TOTAL
WHITE
EXTINCTION
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>>523925547
>we should believe in magic fairy tales because it causes people to have more kids
Thanks for acknowledging you don't really believe it.
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>>523925719
Bait used to be believable
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>>523925438
Vulgate that schlieman the genius proved was fully written and teojan faith the teojan were roman catholic and visited the papal states in jerusalem its a 3 states christ given 8000 year teue faith asswipe nasa fags btfo no rfoth to exist freedumb parqreligion fags juden satbic shit need to be kille
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>>523924514
happy Friday anon
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its an easy way to manipulate over half the population. its left hand path occultism. practically zero religous figure actually believe the shit they say
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>>523925695
just pointing out the obvious. whether you learn something or not is not up to me. the masses can remain retarded for way longer than any reasonable and logical person would expect on a rational basis
>>523925704
i think you still have dicks to suck. get to it mr bong
>>523925719
i don't care about white extinction or any human extinction for that matter
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>>523925832
I am smarter than you tho. You are the one who lack, not me.
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>>523925757
evolution selects for the religious trait in humans
even if there's no god, evolution prefers the religious for whatever reason (they breed,you don't)

so now what?
>>523925782
bait? it's literally what's happening
between secularism and watering down Christian into a neutered joke,yes it's just fact
subhumans with ohga boogha religions>>>>>>> smart atheist childless broken branches
>>523925832
>I don't care about my people going extinct if it means atheism wins!!
the fruits of secularism, humiliation and extinction by cock and womb
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>>523925577
>you retarded ass
Don't you hate it when you make a retarded mistake while trying to call someone else retarded? Kinda deflates the entire balloon.
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>>523925818
<3
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>>523925505
Wrong satan you need catholicism because you are in a globe container stanic gaytheist retarded without the garden of eden impaired iliiterate illogical unreasonable you do not have any sex parts stupid pieceles you stupid human asswipes this is catholic truth based hitler board retarded inbred illiterate asshole you are not teuth based or. Positive you are a spcl adl bani shit brith retarded ass negative
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>>523925311
Lmao got em
Gaytheist on suicide watch
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>>523925984
Evolution does not select anything asswipe srupid ape evolution is not real sruoidbbitch inbred bitch is debunked asswipe shit Charles faggotnoeod dog fucking Darwin was a gay freemason his spewing rabbinical shit cambridge physics does not this shti retarded stupid apes jews are goddamend filth and.hitler was right
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>>523925984
make sure you don't think any wrong thoughts. magical sky daddy is watching and listening, including when you touch yourself
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>>523926277
completely rational and reasonable response there anon

enjoy watching the secular west become a hindu caliphate
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>>523925719
Toidian species are using MKULTRA tech to figure out a way to stop calcium ions from bonding to paralyze your body and mind
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>>523924514
And if you weren't a douchebag trying to show off about how fucking rebel you are by denying divinity you would see how all those pictures have something in common. Man's in built directive to seek divinity.
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>>523926300
Thoughts itself is an action, and it does have consequences.
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>>523926300
make sure you don't think any wrong thoughts,magical nanny state is watching and listening, including when you touch yourself and what porn you watch

idiotic faggot
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>>523925984
Evolution selects nothing protocols doing bitch extinct and animals a plants do not existall thats shits fake sqtanic gay gnostic retsrded cult shit no pyramids jo burial details no vaults no reality to it foucault pendulum are sale as fuck spacebis fake as fuck Cavendish is kot am experiment
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>>523924514
You made this thread because you got filtered by today's Wordle and we all know it. Don't even try to deny it because we're all just gonna say "cope", because that's what this is, COPE.
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>>523924514
Good morning Reddit
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>>523926454
no one is watching me do anything but because you have been brainwashed since birth to believe in a spiritual panopticon you can only see reality in those same terms. any further response from you will prove my point so you can go to another thread now. i don't think you have much else to contribue
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Atheists always come and disturb my peace when I’m about to play some games.
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>>523926374
Wrong inbred what's a burial vault what's a caskets what's electrocylsis what's sand blasting of bones worh wind and heat and cold expansion and contezctuon what's other animals eating the bones what's wrong and insects and all rain is acidic shit heads 10 to 20 without extensive pyramid style tombs or catacombs sentience to actually preserve you nasty jew freemasonic john Wayne gacy style cannibal gnostic secret and public works godsamned hitler snd ernst mach were right
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>>523925311
Oh snap!
Clap back, King.
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>>523926645
Do you even grammar?
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>>523924751
>Amish
are 95 iq tops
they are actual niggerbrained retards who are too scared and stupid to leave their commune
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People who dont understand why religion is nessecary crack me up. People are insane animals. Religion is the systems that keep them from tearing one another apart. Just look at godless societies. Crime. Excess. Depression. Horrid places all around. There has never been an atheist utopia.
Believing that religion is like actually real is pretty retarded but the people need it so Im willing to do the song and dance and then I can be happy that we arent all cannibals or some shit.
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>>523926611
Having God is objectively superior than having None.
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>>523925832
anon has dicks on his mind 24/7 kek
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>>523924514
Animal basil club and the beastialy prosecutions of schwabs friends in the 90s and 2000s fun fact the roman catholic the priesthood as proven Joseph's tone in the valley thats a roman catholic byzantium knew msrxoni tesla hertz votla saoianez university christ snd mary did jot make the internet for nigger jes cannibal heretics gaytheist low intel juden shits
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>>523925757
ony atheists thank you while admitting they're retarded, what a treat
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>>523925984
>evolution selects for the religious trait in humans
>now what?
Yes, and? A self-delusion mechanism evolved to allow our developed intellects to cope with the terror of death. That's the point of the image. Are we ready to take the next step or are we doomed to retarded superstitious thinking forever?
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>>523926734
why are you here then? go be superior somewhere useful
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>>523926932
To show that I am superior to you. It’s a flex. Yes.
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>>523926611
He's right doe
https://americanstasi.com/
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>>523926719
so you admit that it's all a charade
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>>523924514
OP is correct, but the problem for those of us who have transcended even the urge to discuss the alternatives, is that there are too few of us to matter and the hordes will beat us with shear mass. There is a huge push on here to return to religion because it is a control system for the masses of cattle and it simplifies influence messaging. I have now lost all desire to discuss the subject further. eat snacky smores.
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>>523927009
consequence of early brainwashing. i don't have that problem. i don't care what you're doing or what you're thinking because i'm not retarded
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>>523927021
Religion is a pillar of a strong country.
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>>523927034
based
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>>523925984
Agree, religion is the best cope if life. If something bad happens to you or someone else or you feel bad about yourself, religion will always be their to save you're mind. Otherwise, we would just kill ourselves and, henceforth, natural selection sets in.
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>>523927072
You do need to be reminded that you are not the apex predator. Atheists cannot survive in War.
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>>523926714
Space is not real faggot you impotent actionable retarded blind lownitnel slow shit you accomplish nothing burn textbokks burn chabaf shut down.nasa dumbs kill everyone
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>>523926611
kek atheists crashing out
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>>523927111
Religion is the immune system.
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>>523927034
Grim

Not inaccurate but I refuse to give up.
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>>523925438
>the bible predicts future events hundreds of times
Like how it predicted the Holly Bolly in Zechariah 13:8? And you still aren't suspicious that jewish prophecies might be a scam?
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>>523927072
They care what you're doing and what you're thinking
https://youtu.be/wpg8iziLaA0
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>>523927341
Prove that you are smarter than me.
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>>523925438
>the bible predicts future events hundreds of times
Name 3
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>>523927035
These shit tier gay meme srw subverist to smart sruoid and mind meld the leis of judeo freemasonry and its ignorance and shit to this plane
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>>523926901
the point is the religious populations will be here fucking and breeding forever while your people die alone and humiliated
>evolution prefers this
>REEEE NOO IT DOESN'T!!!! REEEE MY PEOPLE ARE GOING EXTINCT AFTER LEAVING THE RELIGION OUR ANCESTORS GAVE US BUT MUH SKYDADDY DOUH
evolution doesn't care, Muslims Hindus and Africans have 7 kids by the age of 20 because their retarded religions tell them to
that's why they'll win the evolutionary race against whites, because they are superior
superior how? they follow the sky Daddy's (or evolution) command to BREED

gaytheists coomers have nothing to say
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>>523927436
OK. Your grammar is typically horrific. The correct way to type what you said is "Prove that you are smarter than I." Ass.
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>>523927034
atheists are so shortsighted, poor anon can't even deduce that OPs argument is against belief of god and not criticism of organised religion
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>>523927570
My grammar is the same as a 6 year old. It’s still smarter than you.
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>>523927195
more projection on your part
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>>523924514
All pagan atheists are pro-LGBT

Only Christians are anti-LGBT.

If you are not Christian, you are literally gay.
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>>523924514
>if you are an actual adult with a functioning brain and ability to use logic and reason then you must realize that every religion is a bunch of fairy tales to control retarded masses of people instead of anything that is grounded in reality
And if you were any smarter, you would realize that something like religion is necessary to keep the retards in line. Man is a religious animal
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>>523927570
Ok Allen
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>>523927570
atheists when animals evolve amoeba to human:
:)
atheists when languages evolve:
REEEEEEEEEEEEE

what he said was absolutely fine and you understood him perfectly
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>>523927572
I never said I was an atheist, I said that discussing it was a waste of time, as evidenced by your utterly inane and inaccurate assumptions, typical of your middling IQ.
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>>523924514
Atheism is the product of semetic religions, you wouldn't be worried about what you spewed in the post if you believed in the European gods.
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>>523927708
>no u!
spectacular demonstration of your self enlightened IQ abilities there,OP


hahahaha poor little gaytheists, watching the religious masses of the world conquer his secularist dream

hahahahahahahaha
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>>523927572
mr bong, your country has no shortage of religious zealots so why are you so unhappy? go be religious and merry with your muslim brethren
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>>523927818
>complains about incrorrect assumptions
>makes incorrect assumptions
what movie are you showing tonight bro?
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>>523927780
i'm not a religious animal. i agree most retards are religious but it's because they're retarded, not because religion has any objective reality like gravity
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>>523927883
poor unfortunate soul
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>>523927818
There is nothing more productive than talking about God. Literally none. I have to stop gaming and posting with you fags because God is just that superior than gaming.
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>>523927883
Mr. gaytheist, don't you have a gay parade to participate in? to show hair stupid Christians what's up?
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>>523927853
it's all fake and gay, i don't care how many cartoon characters you believe in, it's all the same retarded garbage to me
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>>523927799
Saying that "languages evolve" to cover up your poor grasp of English is like saying a tranny is a woman. It's a lie. There is correct English and there is incorrect English. Period. You are obviously part of the problem.
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>>523927856
do you have ass sepsis? it sounds like you need a checkup
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>>523927943
You are an atheist NPC. The same shit I always kill in gaming.
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>>523927962
obviously you have some issues you should be working on but i doubt you are going to resolve them in this thread. go to a mosque, get on your knees and pray
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>>523927034
People who dabble in atheism are proof of God. They are all lost souls that live their lives with an absence of love (God) and lead depressed lives that constantly seek out selfish pleasures (COPE) over and over (which lead to more pain and suffering and their demise), with zero satisfaction because the void is still there, and WILL ALWAYS BE THERE.
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>>523926831
>self-btfo
>y-you're r-retarded
lmao what a simpleton
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>>523924514
>religion is a bunch of fairy tales to control retarded masses
Marxist materialist bullshit.
Just another competing religion positioning itself as the one true faith
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>>523927994
just like your cartoon god you can only think of people like cartoons from retarded media. just proving my point really
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>>523927989
I'm only responding to you because you have proven my point so deliciously that I am touching my private parts with glee.
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>>523924514
Where do I sit?

>atheist
>conservative
>hate niggers, kikes, sandniggers, and jeets
>homosexuals are disgusting
>abortion should be kept legal (only because nigger women perform the most abortions)
>believe in climate change but not retarded to think that we could do anything about it
>hobbies are astrophotography, aquarium keeping, and gaming
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>>523925182
>>we need a middle eastern religion to convince people to have children
ftfy
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>>523928142
no one said anything about marxism
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>>523924514
Why didn't secular and state atheist goverments purge the middle east of their cancerous pedophilic inbred war cult then?
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>>523928014
I'm just describing reality anon, languages in fact do evolve, that's why you mutts speak like niggers with dropped vowels and we no longer speak like Shakespeare
atheists really struggle with given facts and project their insecurities
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>>523925182
Stay mad, whitey. Imagine going extinct because you won’t go have sex. Well, not you, because you don’t need to imagine.
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>>523928182
God will always be God-tier, and Atheists will always be Trash-tier.
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>>523928191
i'm not your astrologist so you might have more success in >/lit/ or >/x/
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>>523928133
woah a talking monkey
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>>523925505
>if you need religion to procreate then you deserve to go extinct
Deserve?
How can anyone deserve anything if there's no arbitrator keeping score?
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>>523928003
For your sake do not insult the gods. Disbelief is fine, its a product of your bullshit abrahamic upbringing.
The gods are the truth, and the true religion will survive through the blood of the people without your belief BUT do not insult them.

I won't even tell you to look into European polytheism, I'll just say this, know who your family is, know where they came from and know the natural world around you. That'll be enough to wake you up.
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>>523928314
>asking atheists to describe their logic
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>>523928247
there is no such thing as a secular state in the modern world. america could have been it but it was subverted in very short order after its founding
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>>523928314
it's an expression of speech. but you seem like you might have schizophrenia. get checked sooner rather than later, it only gets worse over time
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>>523925452
"Unifying moral structures must contain a metaphysical element or they don't count." - Theists

"No I won't look at the 20th century ideologies of fascism/communism/liberalism that did the same thing despite not having any metaphysical components." - Theists

"New religions don't count either, it has to be my old one with the outdated ideas and tons of holes in it for some reason." - Theists
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>>523924514
atheism is midwittery.
the third panel forwards is referring to constellations that retards have taken literal instead of metaphorical.
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>>523927527
You're still avoiding the central issue that religion being useful doesn't make it true. And if it isn't true, why follow it?
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Atheists always have to disturb my gaming session with their garbage point.
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>>523928522
>retards have taken literal instead of metaphorical
what exactly are you arguing about? religion is always metaphorical for people who actually understand there is no magical sky daddy
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>>523928208
grats on your hour of seethe bro, i thought the benefits of atheism is lifelong depression and retardation but you're really selling me with forever butthurtness
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>>523928306
only reply to me when you can correct your previous self-own or when you have the balls to acknowledge it, midwit
>>523927527
Are you too stupid to understand the point of the argument or something? Do you think evolution has an endgame? The point is that the next step in our evolution is to transcend magical thinking and exist in reality. Your rebuttal is "but evolution made us the way we are".
Ok, and? So what? Pointless thing to say. It's not a secular mindset that causes civilizational suicide through the import of a trillion jeets and africans. If anything it's kikes and judeochristian ngos bringing them in.
This is irrelevant to the main point of "is it true" anyway. You're just making some utilitarian argument to believe in what's more convenient. What's you argument against converting to judaism?
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>>523928489
Thanks, saved.

Pagan Atheism is a blight on this planet indeed.

Every single evil in this world can be traced back to Pagan Atheism.
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>>523928666
>what exactly are you arguing about?
oh you want me to repeat myself
>atheism is midwittery
>religion is always metaphorical for people who actually understand there is no magical sky daddy
yes, and 'atheist' are just as bad as the religious tards who also take it literal.
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>>523928739
calling me a midwit or simpleton doesn't make it true anon, regardless of your monkey brain thoughts telling you so
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>>523928793
statistically speaking most people are midwits, what makes you the exception?
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>>523928792
That's a lot of fence-sitting.
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>>523928739
Atheism is literally the midwittism religion lol.
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>>523928870
"statisitcally speaking" is redundant
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>>523925311
nigger cuck porn is your thing since you allow niggers to marry your daughters
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>>523928870
Being closer to God does turn you into a top percentile of humanity.
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>>523928208
>no one said anything about marxism
Of course they did.
Referring to the people as the masses is fundamentally Marxist language. The very concept of seeing people as a collective mass is fundamentally Marxist, as is the position that religion is the opiate of the masses.

OP may not realize what motivates what he believes but it's obvious if you have the eyes to see it.
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>>523929058
mutt's law
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>>523928685
there is an epidemic of ass sepsis going around. you should get checked for it
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>>523928489
this

Religion gets worst with time. At least pre juadism a christianity people didn’t believe religions stories were actual historic events. Look at us now, we even have to get school diplomas just to prove our beliefs before we get give the opportunity to contribute to society
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>>523929109
turn the other asscheek kike worshipper
its what your god would do
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>>523929014
>That's a lot of fence-sitting.
life is a gray area between life and death
>"statisitcally speaking" is redundant
ah statistics are redundant for a midwit, we knew this already.
>>523928991
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>>523924514
Smart stages have the roman cathoic priesthood with legimate orders not Lutherans make the state stupid fagghots nigger inbred illiterate shit
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>>523928793
You are a midwit because you self-btfo yourself earlier in the thread and instead of addressing it head on you're still seething about it like a pussy
>>523928993
That's like saying people who don't drink alcohol are the biggest alcoholics. Retarded nonsense. You sound like a tranny leftist re-defining words.
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>>523929233
>between life and death
*birth and death
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>>523929099
so believing in the same thing as everyone else makes you an individual? are you retarded?
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>>523929177
The competition field keeps going up. Most people in history won’t even be able to imagine talking with the omniscient AI.
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>>523929209
>nobody:
>us flag:
>nigger cuck porn ass aids gay sex
>>523929233
>so low iq doesn't even understand what redundancy in a sentence means
midwit would be a compliment for you
>>523929263
>oooh ooh aaah ahh
kek
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>>523929233
Can't quote properly but likes insulting everyone else.
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Atheism is ruined and has a bad name because of all the bullshitery that comes associated with it. Racial equality, trans rights, and abortion all stick with atheists because they want to get as far away as possible from religion so they associate all things contrary to religion or what religion has taught as bad. I don't know if humans can make atheism work and because a purely rational species but if it did, it would be legendary.
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>>523925505
You need to kys you are a demon you are retarded and need to be suffocated you blind slow retarded inbred illiterate bitxh nasa is fake none human you exist you are not smart you need to be killed ghost are real dragons are real demons are real george benrd shaw was right
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>>523929367
just another duning-kruger moment
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>>523924514
>Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools
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>>523927462
Well 1 is that you'll be a raging megafaggot who thinks bad is good and good is bad.
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>>523929367
>has a typo
>fixes it before your response
all i've proven is; i'm human. all you've done is argue bad faith
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>>523925986
the person calling someone else retarded always does this
they are also always the first one to call names
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>>523929466
quoting properly =/= typo newfren
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>>523929369
Atheism is not a rational position, never will be.
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>>523929401
Stop chimping out you relionigger
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>>523929466
You mean this one?
>>523929265
That wasn't the error I was referring to with my post. So you don't have that right either.

You're just digging deeper. Nobody's going to argue in good faith with someone whose only "point" is calling everyone on the other side a midwit.
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>>523929369
Just because the dominant culture is leftist,, as a consequence of liberalism and christcuck mentality, doesn't mean atheism is leftist. Most people want to belong, atheist or religious, and they just join the dominant culture. If nazis won and everyone turned atheist after, you would see everyone being racist etc. Context matters.
We probably can't make it work but we would be way stronger if we found a way.
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>>523924514
Now make it based, faggot OP
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>>523929657
>the other side a midwit
there is no other side. every atheist is just as religious as a christcuck. whether they're cognizant of it or not is a different point.
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>real atheism has never been tried
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>>523928154
i bet that sounded awesome in your head lol
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>>523924751
We need rapists to increase our birthrate
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>>523929591
Atheism is a rational position. There is no proof of God, plain and simple. The only proof that religious people have is that they don't understand something which itself does not constitute a proof of any sort. Religious is an ancient cuncuction made to rationalize our own existence, death, and the sky. If only the average person (especially on here) was smart enough to see past this but it has become obvious that religion was a selected for straight because it allowed early homo to band together towards a common goals and form stronger bonds.
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>>523929730
There is nothing more powerful than God.
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>>523929357
>doesn't deny it
make another funny post anon while sandnigger muslims rape you and your country
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>>523929809
>if you don't drink alcohol you're an alcoholic
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>>523929947
All atheists are dumb retard with no exception.
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>>523929591
show flag moshe
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>>523929730
I never said atheism was leftist, it isn't. Atheism has no political stance buts it's the leftist retards that repulse rational people from atheism.
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>>523930023
My name is Michael. The name of the Number 1 Angel. Yes.
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>>523929988
the more accurate assessment is
everyone is an addict
>its are you 'addicted' to something that is socially exceptional or not
nice strawman
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>>523930058
There is nothing attractive about atheists.
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>>523930015
I just posted a well thought out response and all I can get when debating theists isn't niggeristic word salad or curses and crude mockery and WE are the dumb ones?
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>>523930125
>redefine what "religious" and "atheist" means just like a leftist when talking about gender or race
>"you're strawmanning"
Is there a single religious person itt capable of a honest and rational argument?
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>>523930201
Atheists Minecraft server is a wasteland because you fags build nothing.
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>>523929909
are you upset your god is just a cartoon to me? that i don't take your delusional beliefs seriously is what makes me an adult.
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>>523930166
There is nothing attractive about religioniggers who's beliefs originated from someone seeing a funny looking rock and bending over to it
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Ironic because every day we see how these people who pride themselves on being "grounded in reality" are the most miserable whiny, mentally ill faggots on the planet
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>>523930226
>Is there a single religious person itt capable of a honest and rational argument?
most people, religion aside, argue personal bias.
but I think you'd classify me as an 'atheist' rather than religious with your basic midwit definition.
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>>523930277
Sorry, we were busy creating modern science
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>>523930342
Yet. You are attracted to my power and keep making these bait thread to pull me in and waste my gaming times.
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>>523929730
if a godless worldview consistently funnels people into the same progressive camp, one that despises tradition, family, and any real moral foundation, then the problem isn't just "dominant culture" or Christian mentality, it's that rejecting God leaves people with nothing but relativism, feelings based morality, and eventually state worship as a cheap substitute for genuine transcendence
context doesn't change the inherent weakness of the worldview itself.
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>>523930433
You know nothing about Science. You are not a scientist student. Your brain is not wired for the Truth.
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Many religious people are midwits. Hitler himself despised religion because all it did was hold society back.
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>>523930474
> cope
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>>523930508
the first gulp from the glass of natural sciences will make you an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass God is waiting for you
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>>523930586
which god would that be mr bong?
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>>523930582
seethe :)
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>>523930571
Lying as easily as breathing. Atheists are truly garbage people.
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>>523930015
lol your butthurt has been duly noted lol
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>>523930447
<<Muh video games
You are literally a brain child, I'm surprised you made it past the new 4chan captcha. Please log off and never come back on.
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>>523930614
yes
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>>523930686
I’m just speaking the Truth. Feel free to prove me wrong.
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>>523929263
You delude yourselves into believing you don't drink alcohol but you truly are the biggest alcoholic.

>>523929369
Atheism is the most irrational position ever.
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>>523930125
>everyone is an addict
WRONG U FUCKING RETARD
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>>523930664
>Lying as easily as breathing
laboured and strenuous, I imagine, maybe assisted too
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>>523930709
Life is a video games, and I am the Master ranker. The No. 1 player.
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>>523925182
Yes because pagans are faggots now, you did this yourselves
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>>523930832
you're right you know
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>>523924514
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>>523925527
Groypers
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>>523930792
Search it up you fucking retard. Hitler despised you people and rightly so
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LMFAO

The Amazing Atheist is one of the best atheists there is, he is their champion, their figurehead.
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>>523930909
Modern religion is racial equality
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>>523930879
Pagans used to actually have kids but the majority of pagans are just degenerate homosexuals and other assortments of weirdos, usually "former" atheists
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>>523930721
so are you at the mosque and on your knees?
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>>523930946
Hitler is not God Almighty. Yet. You seem to idolize him as one.
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>>523930832
Atleast pagans were based and not fucking cucks
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>>523930226
I mean, if you want me to elaborate further on you deciding my definition of abolishing 'atheism' and 'religious' is retarded...
what is the difference between a LOTR fan who has read every work by jr tolkein and a religious fundamentalist (any religion)?
they both have a book club, one goes weekly... maybe the lotr goes to an online forum to autistically argue different fanfiction instead of church, is it different.
maybe one for christmas the christcucks donate to israel while the s 0 ybugmen donate for a disabled nigger.
you may even argue the lotr is MORE 'religious' than a christian if he goes to a reinactment and sees him self as 'mr. baggins'
both have quotes and 'memes'.

so it really comes down to....
>do they REALLY 'believe' in it
which to that I would argue is the LEAST relevant question, because their actions dictate otherwise. how many bugmen got vaccine with suspended 'belief' despite it literally being 'unscientific' to do so.
so again, ponder, midwit. these definitions are arbitrary.
>>523930768
i bet you're addicted to water if you don't drink any or consume any you will die with a week or fall deathly ill
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>>523930911
which religious text? what pages? be specific
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>>523931099
There is nothing based about a bunch of liars cocksucker like you.
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>>523931061
Hitler was a visionary man who saw through the bullshit of modern Western society
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>>523925182
Yes. We do. Except it’s not a “middle eastern religion” it’s the God who created all things , and sent His Son Christ who He raised from the grave.
Acts 17: 18 A group of Epicurean and Stoic philosophers began to debate with him. Some of them asked, “What is this babbler trying to say?” Others remarked, “He seems to be advocating foreign gods.” They said this because Paul was preaching the good news about Jesus and the resurrection. 19 Then they took him and brought him to a meeting of the Areopagus, where they said to him, “May we know what this new teaching is that you are presenting? 20 You are bringing some strange ideas to our ears, and we would like to know what they mean.” 21 (All the Athenians and the foreigners who lived there spent their time doing nothing but talking about and listening to the latest ideas.)

22 Paul then stood up in the meeting of the Areopagus and said: “People of Athens! I see that in every way you are very religious. 23 For as I walked around and looked carefully at your objects of worship, I even found an altar with this inscription: to an unknown god. So you are ignorant of the very thing you worship—and this is what I am going to proclaim to you.
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>>523931131
Go play your video games and let the adults talk boi
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>>523931163

24 “The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by human hands. 25 And he is not served by human hands, as if he needed anything. Rather, he himself gives everyone life and breath and everything else. 26 From one man he made all the nations, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he marked out their appointed times in history and the boundaries of their lands. 27 God did this so that they would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from any one of us. 28 ‘For in him we live and move and have our being.’[a] As some of your own poets have said, ‘We are his offspring.’[b]

29 “Therefore since we are God’s offspring, we should not think that the divine being is like gold or silver or stone—an image made by human design and skill. 30 In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent. 31 For he has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising him from the dead.”
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>>523924514
thanks for your opinion
nobody cares though
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>>523931153
My God is superior than Hitler.
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>>523931056
why would you assume I'm a muslim you gormless mutt
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>>523926715
oh vey
jews hate them so much lmao
they have high fertility and 105 iq from eating healthy food and arranged dating (13-16 y olds)
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>>523931104
Lord of the Rings is deeply influenced by Christianity anyways.

>>523931153
Hitler was literally an agent of Zionism who caused the deaths of millions of European men for the creation of the nation-state of Rothschild's Israel.
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>>523924514
faggot
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>>523931264
Retarded. When the intergalactic empire reaches earth, we are gonna look stupid living like Amish niggers
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>>523931201
I wish I can do that but I just love God too much. Seeing you garbage liars running your mouth trigger my righteousness.
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>>523931333
>Lord of the Rings is deeply influenced by Christianity anyways.
christianity is neoplatoism, anyways.
and your tranime is jewish
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>>523931440
typical atheists and their sky daddies
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>>523931250
yes
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>>523930743
lol u prove yourself wrong with every post
i don't have to do a thing
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>>523931497
You clown on sentinelese people for living isolated in a low tech society but how is that different from living like it is the 1800's and dying of dysentery at 30? What are our galactic overlords going to think of us? Brainlet religionigger
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>>523931116
Psalm 105:30
>Their land teemed with frogs, which went up into the bedrooms of their rulers.
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>>523931634
All atheists are garbage and vile cunts that deserves nothing but eternal damnation. God is right in making a Hell for you people.
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>>523931695
wow, what else does it predict when talking about past historical events?
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>religion le bad because controls people!
>wtf? nowadays people has lost the control
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>>523931713
lol the funny part is there is no god, no afterlife, no hell and all you are doing is pretending to make your god's judgements based on your butthurt
lol
lmao even
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>>523929966
Except a bunch of legionnaires with a cross and a handful of nails.
And maybe Caesar.
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>>523931742
Are you an anti-Groyper?
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>>523931812
There is a God, and there is certainly a Hell. You just have never seen it.
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>>523931571
>tries to mimic me
>just ends up looking retarded
many such cases
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>>523924514
Cry harder. My god shows himself to you daily. My god leaves nightly. He makes his warm loving presence known every morning. And he gives this world life.
Go be a faggot somewhere else. My god is the sun. He is proveable.
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>>523931652
schizo
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>>523931844
All worthless compare to God Almighty.
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>>523931845
i just think you're retarded for thinking a historical observation is a prediction of the future
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>>523931333
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>>523931886
so you're at the mosque worshiping god?
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>>523931937
Spoken like a true brainlet
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>>523932029
not really retarded. Hitler was a goody-two-shoes, and a loser.
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What a fucking coincidence. Lol.
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>>523931926
>My god is the sun.
You didn't actually have to say that and it would still have been a really weak sphinx riddle.
But at least you're right.
>created all known life
>only thing keeping it alive
Although Gaea may be valid too. It would be difficult to be alive without a planet.
>inb4 the almighty creator made the sun
>by literally doing nothing for 13 billion years
The NEET of deities.
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>>523932076
so you're watching the game worshipping nigger?
>>523932111
not an argument
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>>523932027
What makes you fear Groypers so much anon? Is the green coloring?
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>>523932123
Ooh guys look at me in DiFfErENt. Shut up you braindead motherfucker
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>>523927727
>pagan atheist
Ugh you're right man, they're just almost as bad as the gaseous solids
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>>523932111
the virgin trips
>>523932222
the chad quads
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>>523932222
so which god are you worshiping if you're not at the mosque?
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>>523932222
Yeah let's stop all technological progress to live like niggers frozen in time.
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>>523932009
Yet they unironically worship those nails and one of those legionnaires became a saint.
>they just completed gods design
Quite a cope, and also a stupid d4sufn. How difficult would it be for this supposed almighty being to do his job properly?
Very much, apparently.
>he just really hates casuals
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>>523932244
do you have any other predictions about past events?
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>>523931926
>doesn't understand what a halo is in christianity
why do you think jebus birth is on winter solstice?
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>>523932341
God created the world just for Me. I’m not gonna talk shit to the one who granted my desire. This entire world is entirely all for Me.
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God is real. At least it can be for the individual who experiences it.
But 99.99999% of the time any spirituality is taken, and then twisted by corrupt control freaks for the purpose of manipulation.
The vast majority of those who experience some connection with God do experience a genuine spirituality, but how they interpret it is usually perverted by others who seek to control them.
>Anon has a spiritual experience.
>Some religious control freak tells him "That was the Holy Ghost entering you!" ( Or whatever brand of bullshit, every religion is the same )
And that is how they take control and begin telling them how to behave, what to believe, what "Holy Book" to read, etc.

TLDR:Humanity taps into something which exists beyond our comprehension, we call it God, and then we make up bullshit stories about it. Just like primitives.
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>>523932358
I am a smol cute girl with dark hair and green eyes >_<
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>>523932341
>d4sufn
Whoops, for once autocorrect simply failed instead of correcting it into some bullshit.
>design

>>523932474
Do you really need God for that though? You can do it with your own power. I believe in you.
If anything it will be more remarkable as a randomly generated, practically incidental creature, instead of some kind of destiny, which is like inheritance.
>so daddy was a billionaire?
>somehow you managed to become a billionaire!
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>>523932565
>call it God
dinosaur, tell me the etymology of god.
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>>523932782
I love God. Of course. I need God.

Can you live without your Lover?
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>>523930474
You keep repeating the same retarded point that made you self-btfo earlier. Just acknowledge it and argue from there instead of trying to reframe with the same dumb bullshit.
>>523930406
>midwit definition.
You're the one with the midwit definition. You are stretching the meaning of words to suit your narrative instead of being honest about it. That's exactly the same thing lefties do with gender and race. It's a form of pilpul. Just be honest and argue your point without doing that tedious crap.
>>523931104
>my definition
Language is a way to transmit information. We agree upon the meaning of words before entering a discussion with another mind. I don't need to be constantly defining and redefining shit. That's what you are doing. Just like the leftist that says "oh what even is a woman really, it's all a social construct" and just deconstruct the meaning of every word and the function of language itself.
Yes, saying "atheism is a religion" is retarded simply by looking at the definition of those words. You just think you are being so smart and triggering me because of my "atheism" but what's annoying is that you're being a leftist tranny pilpul artist redefining words. You don't want a honest discussion.
>what is the difference between a LOTR fan who has read every work by jr tolkein and a religious fundamentalist (any religion)?
One believes in a literal God and the other doesn't you fucking idiot.
Here's what you sound like
>what is the difference between a woman who only takes it in the ass and a tranny (male or female)?
So deep bro. Just think about it and deconstruct every word bro. Deep shit dood.
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>>523933012
>You keep repeating the same retarded point
>made you self-btfo earlier
the self-awareness of a macaque and also the body of a macaque
kek
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>>523933012
>what is the difference between a woman who only takes it in the ass
there is no difference by the way, they both will get ass sepsis
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>>523932910
>Can you live without your Lover?
Yes. I could exist even completely on my own, although it wouldn't exactly be beneficial.
What about God's lover though, Asherah?
Imagine being omnipotent and essentially reduced to playing with dolls.
Would explain why he's obsessed with people worshipping him, but also kinda sad.
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>>523933012
>One believes
I'll ignore everything you said up to this point because, thats what you did to me.
again, you focus on belief which is IRRELEVANT to action.
if you TRULY believe something you act on it, retard.
>So deep bro. Just think about it and deconstruct every word bro. Deep shit dood.
what do you think language is? a fixed thing?
a tool to strawman people into being trannies?
lmao.
it changes and I'm telling you the definition of 'religious' is not adequate, and hasn't been so since the scientific revolution/darwinism.
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>>523933314
God is playing games with me all the times.
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>>523924514

survivorship bias, the atheist communities of the past never evolved passed the picking berries stage
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>>523924514
Religion has always been used to legitimise war and immeasurable suffering and no one can convince me otherwise
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>>523933437
Have you ever seen the true face of God, exile?
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I am a STEM prof, not religious but not atheist, and I can honestly say that some of the most intelligent people I know, I’m talking geniuses who are super productive and top of their fields, are religious. The four that I’m thinking about right now, are all Christian and very open about their religion, they talk about God openly, etc., but not obnoxiously so. They all seem to have a very strong sense of purpose and want to help people, and therefore their work is often more applied, practical and basically focussing on helping people. That isn’t to say that they don’t have an ego, but they seem to have a religious conviction that translates into their work. It’s pretty impressive.

People who write on religion, spirituality, God, basically anything that doesn’t revolve around basic materialism need to grow up the whole Richard Dawkins atheist edgelord thing has passed. If every single human culture in society across space and time has some sort of religious or spiritual belief system, it doesn’t mean that it’s true, but it means that it’s part of the human experience. To deny this is to deny the human spirit and to be so sure that you know what does and does not exist is hubris fuelled by immaturity, ego and tunnel vision
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>>523931163
>it’s not a “middle eastern religion” it’s the God who created all things
...who was created by a Middle Eastern tribe. We know exactly where Yahweh came from.
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>>523933664
God is a cute little girl.
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>>523933601
that is correct
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>>523933716
thanks jeet, real insightful. I'm not reading any of that
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>>523933437
Kinky.
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>muh ebin intellectual atheist hehe you have imaginary friends! you believe in imaginary people!

One day, God will ask you to explain this to him.

You will say that you're sorry, that you were manipulated. But it won't fly, because you have freedom of thought and choice and you're still choosing to say those things.

Besides. The whole "you have imaginary friends" makes no logical sense, because the insult itself fully relies on the social construct that imaginary friends are for children, but religion is not for children, as most adults are religious. So it's fully meaningless. Something being for children or for adults is nothing but a social construct, and in this case it doesn't even apply. It is similar to saying that something most people do is "weird", or that something that popular people do is "cringe". Just makes no sense and would not even be a good argument in the first place.
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>>523933716
Well yeah, it turns out self-delusion is one of the most powerful forces in human consciousness.
>God told me to do it
>so I did
Usually this involves blowing themselves up, but not always.
Truly tragic and delusional however, since all their work will be used against mankind and for the benefit of individual profiteers.
>the profiteers are appointed by God
Yes, literally what would they have you believe.
tl;dr religion is weakness, an escape from the cold, hard reality of the matter
>why bad thing happen
>it's a test from God
Humanity won't get anywhere with this mindset.
These people are tools both literally and figuratively.
Not necessarily for ill, but 90% of the time.
Worst case they drink their own Kool-Aid.
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>>523934681
>drink their own Kool-Aid
as opposed to someone else's kool-aid?
who's koolaid do you drink nigger? shartmart isle 5 grape drank?
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>>523933179
>spends the whole thread repeating the same self-refuting 90 iq retardation that was refuted 200 replies ago
>muh self-awareness
what a boring mind
>>523933363
Ok so you acknowledge you are re-defining the words "religious" and "atheist" just like a bad faith leftist does when they use the words "woman" or "racist".
That's why you are despicable, you argue in bad faith. There is no point using words against someone like you just like there isn't against a leftist. You are incapable of rational discourse as you redefine every word and make honest conversation impossible.
What's worse is that you see yourself as smart for doing it. If only you had an inch of honest and integrity and were willing to argue in good faith for a second you would see how retarded you really are.
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>>523935397
left/right
black/white
republicuck/demonrat
good/bad
not only are you trapped into the binary/false dichotomies. you're also unable to reflect.
how tragic.
national-socialist is a 3rd position (something your retarded ass can't wrap your mind around).
or better yet, hitler was a tranny because he changed definitions/terms around. ok bud
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>>523935631
>mention something completely unrelated and thinks he's making a good point
Again with the pilpul. Bravo.
Only in this sewer would our minds ever interact. You're dumb as fuck. And by "dumb" I mean it as a compliment (I redefined every word I just uttered to mean something else)
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^ atlas, the frustrated rightoid epstein-bannon zionist has gassed himself out
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>>523931264
>Amish
>Healthy food
you are now megatrolling
they eat loads of sugar, carbs, and preserved meat
their diet is no better than what you can get in the supermarket.
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>>523935397
dimwit
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Retard 80iq relativist semantic midwit tranny:
>atheism means religion!!
>man means woman!!!
>black means european!!!
Endless spiral of retardation ensues from that little retarded quip to "own" the atheist.

Meanwhile in the real world, where people use language as its meant to be used :
Atheist - without belief in god/gods
Religion - worship of god/gods
>I think atheists are wrong because of X. I don't need to redefine words in bad faith. I don't need to corrupt language itself and I don't need to end up as a mental tranny. I argue in good faith

Stay mad pilpul faggot. Noone takes you seriously. This is the only time anyone will ever bother to lay it out for you, every reasonable person agrees with me when they see you doing that.
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>>523936590
watch out, he'll call you a leftist faster than (((mark levin))) screams 'demonrat'
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>>523925830
>its an easy way to manipulate over half the population. its left hand path occultism. practically zero religous figure actually believe the shit they say
Anon can you expand on this please?
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Here is the funny part about the tranny allegations (which is pathetic)
>The word "girl" (from Middle English gyrle) originally meant any young person, regardless of gender, appearing around 1250-1300, with older terms like "knave girl" for boys
so, I guess when 'girl' was gender neutral and they changed it, they became 'relativist semantic midwit trannies'
oy vey! anything but admit you're 'wrong' (you can't do that, your life is all about right/wrong)
lmao
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>Language changed organically over the centuries and through complex cultural and geographical reasons therefore I am justified in subverting everythiing willy nilly, Just change definitions and redefine everything tee-hee
What a retard. It's surprising that you can even complete the capcha desu.
Learn to use language like a honest man. Kike.
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>>523924514
Then why is it that literally every atheist is an oversocialized midwit with illusory superiority who never actually uses logic or reason, and instead just parrots the retarded nonsense they read on r/atheism or their tranny discord?
You think you are above religion, when in reality you are just a fanatical moron with absolute blind faith in the most retarded religion of all, because you (wrongly) think it means you are smarter and better than everyone else.
Let's be real. You aren't really an "atheist" you just hate a strawman caricature of the Christian God because you have unresolved childhood anger toward your parents for making you follow rules, which you redirect toward Christianity by proxy because in your mind that makes it less infantile and immature.
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>he says all this in modern english
the irony is never noticed is it?
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523937399
learn to quote retarded monkey
no (you) for you
>>523937511
atheist fantasies be like
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>>523937697
he's emulating me because I stopped giving (((him))) (you)s for being retarded
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>>523937610
Strawman and projection.
Most atheists are that way because it's what makes sense to them.
Noone itt managed to argue why it doesn't make sense, they just use these boring strawmen or try to redefine basic words subverting language itself instead of making a point.
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>>523937763
he's pathetic
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Look at these two buck-broken retards for example:
>>523937696
This guy is arguing atheism is wrong because of language or some shit. In his worldview if someone likes Taylor Swift a lot that's a "religion". Spent the whole thread insisting on this dumb shit instead of making a point (doesn't have any let's be real).
>>523937697
This guy admitted long ago that the reason to believe in God is not because it's real but because it provides a certain benefit. Doesn't care if things are true or not. In other words, if someone argues that Islam or Judaism give the highest benefit then it would only be logical to convert to those religions. Literal brainrot retardation.

Not sending their best. I wish they were able to make one rational/logical argument for the existence of God but they don't have anything. Certainly they will now try to squeeze some kind of own before the thread dies when they refuse to make a good point the whole time. Pathetic.
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>>523938129
>admitted
you keep using this word as if you're not a retarded monkey, I implore you to stop
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^ this guy only has cope and strawmans but STILL no more (you)s from me
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^ (upAMkH/y) that is
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>>523938227
atheism is formally an irrational point of view because it cannot account for the existence of immaterial, universal laws of logic, reason, and morality in a purely materialistic universe, rendering its foundational assumptions arbitrary and self-undermining so cope and strawmans is all they have
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>>523938369
And there it is, after saying googoo-da-da the whole thread finally you try to squeeze in a point right before the thread dies. What a dishonest retard.
There is nothing immaterial, everything is material. We could have gone into it if only you admitted your self-own earlier in the thread. Reflect on your behavior dimwit.
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523938731
not my fault you're a dimwit and didn't read my points
if everything is strictly material, then your assertion 'there is nothing immaterial' is itself just a meaningless pattern of firing neurons with no objective truth value, rendering your entire worldview self refuting and incapable of justifying the rational certainty you're pretending to have
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>>523935139
I was forced to drink the Kool-Aid like everybody else was, but I quit at the first opportunity.
By drinking their own Kool-Aid I mean that they consider it good and proper what they do, and don't acknowledge the flaws in their attitude, and then pass it on to others.
There's a difference between suffering indoctrination and embracing and spreading it.
And acknowledging the toxic side doesn't make the positive side go away automatically. All your energy previously "came from God"? Can't be that hard to get it from somewhere else instead of losing it. It has always come out of themselves.
But drinking their own Kool-Aid they'll never improve and and grow.
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>>523938946
You're a midwit who never thought about these things at all. You had your chance to have this conversation before the thread died, now it's too late.
>This guy admitted long ago that the reason to believe in God is not because it's real but because it provides a certain benefit.
Are you man enough to acknowledge this at least? Or are you going to be a pussy until the end?
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523938731
also you went from calling me a midwit to a dimwit after I did, and stopped replying to the other anon after he did, like a mimicking monkey
keep seething lil ooh ooh ah ah gup
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>>523936739
The belief that there are no gods is just that: faith.
Because there is no proof.
Instead you can simply accept that the truth isn't apparent and quite possibly meaningless. Is it important god randomly does everything that seems random, instead of it being random random? No.
But neither is it necessary to insist on an absence of gods. They may well be there, pathetic capeshit ayyliums, or the guy who did the big bang and nothing since. It's simply not terribly relevant.
>I must desperately get on the good side of some callous lying inscrutable giga-asshole
To each their own I guess.
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>>523939243
>you stopped replying!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lmao I'm thankful I treated you like a dog you don't deserve to be taken seriously. Stupid AND dishonest. Try to bring one argument next thread please.
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>>523924514
Atheism is just the only working intelligence test.
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>>523937814
>Most atheists are that way because it's what makes sense to them.
No, they don't. They don't actually use logic or rationality, they are just convinced that they are part of a perceived in-group that uses logic and rationality, and therefore whatever they and the perceived in-group believes must be logical and rational.
Because anyone who actually uses logic and rationality would come to the conclusion that there must be a God or Creator of some form. You can argue over the specific details of that God, but atheism is completely illogical and retarded. Aristotle settled this debate and proved logically that there must be one (and only one) Creator/God, an uncreated Creator, an unmoved Mover.
Atheists are atheists for entirely illogical, emotional, psychologically immature and underdeveloped reasons. Mostly infantile rebellion against their parents or perceived authority.
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>>523939297
That depends on how you define "faith", it's just semantics again.
You can casually use "faith" to mean "belief" so you get stuff like "I believe I get wet if it rains" but the use of it here is to mean "belief in god/religion". We are not arguing about the nature of knowledge, we arguing specifically about belief in gods. In that case we make a value judgement on what seems more likely or rational. The belief in god or "faith" is by definiton irrational and that's a bullet any serious theistic person will bite but I assure you the dummies I'm arguing against itt wouldn't.
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>>523939742
I use logic and rationality and I claim it's you who is illogical and retarded.
We both made our claim and now what? Can't you imagine anyone disagreeing with you or being smarter than you ever?
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523939241
your desperate attempt to dodge the argument by calling me a midwit and misrepresenting my position as mere pragmatism only highlights your inability to engage
523939370
treating me like a dog with treats and walks while dodging every substantive point and resorting to personal insults is the exact behavior I'd expect from someone whose materialism collapses into epistemic nihilism, forcing them to pretend their furious monkey noises have actual rational force when it's just blind chemical reactions
thanks for proving my point so vividly, pup
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>>523925311
>Religious history
>Christians and Muslims killing each other for which God is cooler
Wow clap clap.
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>>523939742
The only person who settled this debate and the strongest champion of God was Kierkegaard with the leap of faith. All of you trying to reach God through rationality and logic are straight up dumb, your arguments don't hold up at all.
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>>523940141
this is what atheists actually believe
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>>523940198
Name one good non-secular country.
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>>523940195
the proud materialist macaque suddenly discovers Kierkegaard and starts thumping his chest about the leap of faith as if screeching that reason can't reach God somehow saves your collapsing worldview where blind chemical fizz in your skull is supposed to magically produce reliable rational certainty
congratulations, little ooh ooh ah ah, by embracing fideism you're now admitting that your own furious denials of the immaterial rest on nothing but an arbitrary primate leap into atheism, making your entire position even more irrational and self-refuting than the theists you're mocking
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>>523940129
>misrepresenting
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>>523925547
>Atheism is wrong because of muh birthrates
so dumb and childish
you made 0 effort to present a real argument until the thread was about to die so noone would reply back. Remember that.
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you can't make a single point for 40 minutes and it's my fault?
keep projecting and namedropping philosophers you don't understand
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>>523940312
Malta
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>>523940619
Malta is basically secular with other religions being practiced.
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>>523940411
I accept your conession, this thread will now die with me as the winner
and you as the seething brownoid who doesn't like dogs confirming the previous monkey labelling
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>>523940759
>basically
I accept your concession
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