While do mainstream historians like to put all the blame on Hitler for Germany's military defeat while forgetting the fact that he was surrounded by incompetent and/or traitorous people like Goering, Milch, Halder, Kanaris, Oster etc.?
>>523929261Probably cause he was the reason for the war starting, the reason for the war escalating, the reason Russia wanted to rape the shit out of them in revenge, and the reason for all the utterly psychotic "no surrender" and "scorched earth" orders.
>>523929413>Probably cause Poles and Judeo-Anglos were the reason for the war starting, the reason for the war escalating, the reason Russia wanted to rape the shit out of them in revenge, and the reason for all the utterly psychotic "no surrender" and "scorched earth" orders.*FTFY
>>523929638Cope for another 80 years, loser.
>>523929261>chooses to surround himself with yes men that won't let him know when he's fucking up>the generals that do let him know when he's about to fuck up get removed from commandit's a mystery
>Cope for another 80 years, loser.
>>523929413The war started in 1919 with the signing of the treaty. It was entirely kiked and blamed the germans, who had entered the war later on, for everything.
>>523929261I think the worst thing to happen to Germany was the fall of the monarchy. Wilhelm II was a retard for sure but the Hohenzollern monarchy continuing would have been vastly preferable to what ended up happening.
>>523929769I'm pretty sure people like Goering (Dunkirk and Stalingrad) and Manstein (Stalingrad/Operation Winter Storm) were given enough carte blanche to do their job, only in the end to fuck it up.
>>523930008Well, if you hadn't sided with the (((commies))) the world would have surely been a different place.
>>523930359Germany literally sided with the commies first.
>>523929638>PolesJust say jews. The average pole didn't care working the same job as always before food got short and cities starting to look demolished. Which should give you a pretty good indicator by itself anyway.
>>523929261Cause historians don't start with the premise that Hitler did nothing wrong.
>>523930565>KIKE! JIDF!!! SHUT UP YOU FILTHY JEW!!! DENOUNCE THE TALMUD NOW!!!
>>523929261because germany lost the moment we invaded poland dude. invading poland, knowing that most countries want to fuck us over but still invading poland KNOWING ww1 could repeat was probably the most retarded move in like, i dont know, all of history. LITERALLY, we learned nothing after the first world war, hitler, after being chancellor left the fucking league of nation starting to isolate germany and the guy fought in ww1, its insane how bad nazi germanys foreign policy was
>>523930405Imagine thinking the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact was not a move by both Hitler and Stalin to win time so they could eventually backstab each other. Also, imagine thinking Stalin wasn't preparing for a full-scale invasion towards Europe in 1941 with his 24,000 tanks, thousands of long-range bombers, tens of thousands of artillery guns and at least half a dozen airborne corps.
>>523930887>Imagine thinking the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact was not a move by both Hitler and Stalin to win time so they could eventually backstab each other.Imagine thinking our alliance wasn't a similarly strategic necessity against the power-hungry madman destroying a whole continent.>Also, imagine thinking Stalin wasn't preparing for a full-scale invasion towards Europe in 1941 with his 24,000 tanks, thousands of long-range bombers, tens of thousands of artillery guns and at least half a dozen airborne corps.Imagine thinking everything Germany did between 1933 and 1939 wasn't a preparation for a premeditated total war of aggression in order to acquire Lebensraum.
>>523930726>hitler, after being chancellor left the fucking league of nation starting to isolate germany and the guy fought in ww1, its insane how bad nazi germanys foreign policy wasGermany literally made several peace/cooperative/disarmament peace offers to the League of Nations during the first couple of years of the NSDAP's rise to power. None of them were ever accepted.
>>523929261Well when you concentrate power in the hands of one man, that man get all the credit but also all the blame. If Goering was so incompetent, then what does that say about the man that put him in that position?
>>523931190still should not have left. i don't want to be a wordcel, monarch fag but bismarck talked about this: “Preventive war is like committing suicide out of fear of death.”
>>523930175disagree, far too many german soldiers died on the eastern front because of hitler's unwillingness to allow requested strategic withdrawals
>>523931284>Well when you concentrate power in the hands of one man, that man get all the credit but also all the blame.What's funny is that Mein Kampf goes on and on about how that should be the case, yet he still whined and made excuses about how it wasn't his fault at the very end.
>>523931419the war was lost once we invaded poland. we already knew that most of west-europe was mad at germany and we still invaded, knowing that ww1 could repeat and it did repeat, so fucking retarded. you obviousy clan't win ww2 fighting several european countries, america included, thats just straight up nuts.
>>523929413>the reason for the war startingYou could make a strong case that the primary cause for the war starting was that Himmler was an unhinged retard, and that the night of the long knives, something that was his doing, made it effectively impossible to continue diplomatic manuevering. From that point forward, there was going to be a conflict somewhere that spiraled out of control.>the reason Russia wanted to rape the shit out of them in revengelol, yes, I am sure they had some high minded 'this is for X or Y' while they were raping women and children.>the reason for all the utterly psychotic "no surrender" and "scorched earth" orders.Surely you can see what surrendering got them, right? Their race is all but extinct now, after 80+ years of thinly veiled Kalergi plan shenanigans. Their country is now an economic zone where jews scurry around looting whatever is left and lording over a mud people. Their mistake was not putting more effort into training and funding a post war organization to systematically target globohomo.
>>523931284Germany wasn't just one person though, it was Hitler at the top, but each of the major secondary players like Goring, and Himmler, all of them maintained their own power blocs. Hitler could have probably still purged them if he needed to, but it would have been messy, and sparking a potential civil war in the middle of a world war is how you guarantee you lose the war. By at least some accounts, he came very close to purging Himmler for his schizo night of long knives antics closing the door on diplomatic manuevering.
>>5239292611) The most retarded and momentous 'blunders' (Dunkirk, Egypt, Barbarossa, Tyfoon, Fall Blau) were ALL Hitler2) Fuhrerprinzip says he was still responsible3) Hitler was a jewish puppet propped up PRECISELY BECAUSE the puppet masters knew they could infiltrate and capture his movement to the point obvious saboteurs and enemy assets like Milch, Sorge, Canaris, Bormann and Morell would rise to high postions and ensure the war would not only be lost, but be lost in the most catastrophic and destructive way
>>523929261after Soviet Union defeated nazis west employed almost all of them to build nato.we barely executed any.so this is why it was easier to use hitler as a scapegoat.
The noticing will continue until morale improves.
>>523931558himmler was nuts, true. And really have to repeat it: “Preventive war is like committing suicide out of fear of death
>>523931160>Imagine thinking our alliance wasn't a similarly strategic necessity against the power-hungry madman destroying a whole continent.How so? You didn't attack the Soviets after WWII and didn't liberate half of Europe from communist rule (instead your jewish and crypto-jewish scientists working on the Manhattan Project handed over the atomic bomb's know-how to Stalin). Churchill even proposed such a plan, look up Operation Unthinkable. This is also one of the main reasons Patton was killed.>Imagine thinking everything Germany did between 1933 and 1939 wasn't a preparation for a premeditated total war of aggression in order to acquire Lebensraum.Imagine thinking Germany didn't at first made all sorts of peace and disarmament proposals to League of Nations members in the period 1933-35. Imagine also conveniently skipping historical "bits" like the Franco-Soviet treaty of mutual assistance, the Czechoslovak–Soviet treaty of alliance, Hungary and Poland's territorial grab of Czechoslovakia, the Poles' refusal to settle the Danzig corridor problem, the Poles' treatment on their German minority after the British handed them the blank guarantee check, Poland's partial mobilization in the middle of August 1939, the Brits' mining of Norway's neutral waters as well as their attempt to occupy it in 1940, the Soviets' occupation of Northern Bukovina and Hertza, the Brits' carpet bombing of German civilian targets in 1940 several months prior to the Blitz, etc. I can go on and on, but you're a historically inept nigher with an IQ of 80.
>>523931558They were ridiculously brutal and genocidal in the way they conducted the war on the Eastern Front. They killed 9 million children, for instance. That was the reason Germany couldn't just surrender anymore, and the reason the Russians were going to be absolutely merciless when they got to Berlin. I wasn't trying to imply that the raping was noble.
>>523929261Shut down nasa
>>523929261Because he killed himself and most of the accounts of the German war experience were written by high ranking Nazis doing the dindu-nuffin dance, trying to avoid prosecution.
>>523929413>the poles were good boys>they dindu nothin'
>>523932024>nighernigger*
>>523932051Remember the 9 billion children killed by Hitler Never forget how we lost 9 trillion children
>>523932051yes, the loss of nazi germany was settled after the invasion of poland but the "faith" of germany was settled after the ivnasion of the soviet union, especially after the massive death counts
>>523932024After WWII, we took all the top German scientists and immediately started the Cold War against Russia.
>>523932129>>523932198Why do you hate white people?
>>523932238>after we sided with the communists we pretended to fight the communists We could have put communism in its grave but the west wanted to sell out its own people to the jews instead. Now the shame is forever on us for our betrayal
>>523932277Hitler was the last leader to fight for whites. Why do you hate white people?
>>523932238The Cold War was fake and gay dumbass
>>523929261>2025>still cant understand why a meth addict lost a war
>>523930726don't forget how bad military intelligence was too, thought the Red Army was a third of the size it actually was
>>523929638Of course Germany wanted peace in 1940, just like they wanted peace in 1916 -- because they were winning.But for the same reason, their opponents were not going to make peace under such conditions.
>>523932365It wasn't the meth so much as the narco-hypnotics
>>523932311>We could have put communism in its graveBy what, nuking Russia? Killing tens of millions of more people, right after the deadliest war of all time? Give me a break.
>>523932365Pretty sure your fat alcoholic leader scrapped your entire empire and now your children get raped by muslims dude
The worst thing with Hitler was his willful and utter disregard for tradition>jawohl all of germany will henceforth use this LARP symbol picked by MEwhat a faggot
>>523932402YES and because a lot of them were straight up lunatics, they thought due to the racial superiority of the germans we could easily crush the soviet union, genuinly retarded
>>523932433By allying with the Germans you fucking retard
>>523932238>Cold War against RussiaOh, you mean the totally not Fake and Gay War with Russia/USSR?
>>523932348Hitler is literally the #1 or #2 spot for the biggest murderer of white people all time. You're a fucking clown.
Noone must forget that B*lgaria was on the axis side both times even though their shithole was literally created by Russia and France
>>523932538yes, they thought Operation Barbarossa would only take 6 weeks and Russia would totally collapse because they were so racially inferior>>523929413>the reason for all the utterly psychotic "no surrender" and "scorched earth" orders.those orders actually made military sense until after Stalingrad, for example Army Group Center might have collapsed years earlier if not for Hitler's order in December 1941 to not retreat outside of Moscow
>>523932538They weren't lunatics, they were infiltrated to the very top, and the racial superiority was real, German troops were generally far superior, that's why Hitler needed intervention after intervention to ensure they would lose
>>523932568Hitler didnt flood Europe with hundreds of millions of muslims and shitskins, you globohomo retards did that. Just like you people started the war, allied with communists, and sold us out to jews. Naturally you'd want to slander the last defender of the white race, since you hate us and want us dead.
>>523932746iam not talking about erich von manstein and other germans. iam talking about higher positions of power, like hitler or fucking himmler
>>523932539Why would we betray the countries we had been longtime allies with to side with their enemy, a belligerent madman that started another world war?
>>523932779Hitler made sure globohomo won retard, just like he made sure common sense and mainstream ideas like nationalism, ethno-socialism and racial hygiene would be thoroughly discredited, THAT'S why the millions of immigrants were alllowed after WW2
>>523932508Idiot.
>>523932779God, you neo-nazi retards are such coping whiners.
>>523932746and this superiority take is retarded, russia was known for it's military might, ww2 is just an example of what happens when lunatics take power. in the end they create more problems that they solve
>>523932779Hitler didn't defend the white race. He wanted to genocide and enslave Eastern Europe to create a gigantic pan German empire with all the natural resources they would need to become a world power. You're projecting modern views on historical figures of the past and using hindsight.
>>523932494lmao, projection: the post. The next couple of decades are going to be brutal for you anon.
>>523932848In that case, you are right, Hitler being an actual puppet, and Himmler being totally in thrall to obscurantist handlers like (((Wiligut)))The history of the Waffen SS is so fucking sad, all that top tier Aryan blood wasted
>>523932779>Hitler didnt flood Europe with hundreds of millions of muslims and shitskins,Nazi economy was completely dependent on foreign workers (in part because they refused to put women to work)Sure they didn't make them citizens, but the idea that Nazis kept Germany somehow pure and free of foreigners is absurd.
>>523932992desu, the lebensraum stuff comes from mein kampf, no? ww2 is weird because it's all over the place(probably because the higher ups were lunatics). in the end, we don't really know what nazi germany wanted.(personally) i think one of the reasons why they invaded the soviet union was because they feared soviet invasion and influence in europe, hence why i quoted bismarck preemptive war quote. dont get me wrong, lebensraum probably played a part as well but i do think it was all over the place
>>523932985>russia was known for it's military might,Lmao no, not after the 1905 war with Japan, the dismal performance in WW1, the catastrophic Winter War and the bizarre (((self-sabotaging))) purges of the late 1930
>>523932992also, like, after the war was declared, excuses had to be made af well. not saying the lebensraum thing isn't true but the first foreign policy goal of nazi germany was uniting ethnic germans into one state(and the goal clearly wasn't finished, danzig etc)
>>523932859>why would we fight the athiest communist hordes who are our direct nemesis? >why would we ally with this nation whom we have good trade and diplomatic relationships with? Bruh>>523933119Germany had a higher female labor force participation rate than both England and America combined, and that was before the war. Read a book fuckstick>>523932999Not as brutal as what your children experience today. They may speak Arabic, but hey, at least theyre not speaking German! >>523932992>the same old holocaust narrative, but with slavs this time It didnt work the first time why would you think it would work the second time? Retard
>>523933150>>523933312They wouldn't have murdered millions of Soviet civilians and POW's if they were just trying to "liberate them from Judeo-Bolshevism" or whatever bullshit. They clearly weren't planning on any Slavs being left to have bad blood against them after the war. Plus, Stalin literally already purged all the Judeo-Bolshevists out years earlier lol. Anyways, Nazi Germany needed Lebensraum because they didn't have enough farmland and other resources to be entirely self-sufficient, and they needed to be self-sufficient when they were an aggressive bully that no one else trusted or wanted to trade with anymore. Same thing with Russia now.
>>523930008Wrong Wilhelm was a genius you are retarded he did the right thing shut down nasa
>>523933670>just ignore the millions of slavs that worked with the Germans and focus only on what the Bolshevik war-time propaganda said >but also we're supposed to hate Russia today for some reason >slave ukraini!>ID: gAY Quite fitting really
>>523932930The Nazi swastika had zero history in german heraldry and you trying to whitewash Hitlers great rape of German history makes me want to throw up
Hitler was retarded all along but his lucky dice rolls just obscured the fact. If it wasn't for some very serendipitous events at the very beginning of the war, the Germans would basically have been stopped dead in their tracks and Hitler would have gone down in history as one of the worst military leaders ever.It's kind of like when somebody buys call on Tesla stock or whatever and makes a 100k in one day. They look like a trading genius until they make another gamble and lose all their money. That was Hitler.
>>523933312>but the first foreign policy goal of nazi germany was uniting ethnic germans into one state(and the goal clearly wasn't finished, danzig etc)He said he wanted to unite all the Germans into one state and then begin to take foreign territory, which was a moral right. This is from the first page of Mein Kampf.>Das deutsche Volk besitt so lange kein moralisches Recht zu kolonialpolitischer Tätigkeit, solange es nicht einmal seine eigenen Söhne in einen gemeinsamen Staat zu fassen vermag. Erst wenn des Reiches Grenze auch den lepten Deutschen umschließt, ohne mehr die Sicherheit seiner Ernährung bieten zu können, ersteht aus der Not des eigenen Volkes das moralische Recht zur Erwerbung fremden Grund und Bodens. Der Pflug ist dann das Schwert, und aus den Tränen des Krieges erwächst für die Nachwelt das tägliche Brot.
>>523930359Free mason dog fucker cannibal pedo zhithead
>>523933670did you read what i wrote? after invaded, millions obviously died due to the large scale of industrial warfware. the killing of sivvilians etc. was due to ideology, never denied it, i was talking about the reason to declare war
>>523929261Because he ordered to attack the SU before consolidating power in the West, before invading the British Isles i.e. This broke us the neck. No military genius could prevent the defeat after this.
>>523933594France is our oldest ally. The UK is our historical ally (after the rough early years, obviously). You're saying we should have betrayed them and sided with Germany instead, which means going to war against the UK and France on behalf of a totalitarian dictatorship. We weren't siding with the Soviet Union as much as we were siding against Germany. We didn't support the USSR until they got added into the Allies when Germany invaded them. And we didn't want directly in the war at all until Japan attacked us.
>>523933848Nature disagrees.
>>523931548> the war was lost once we invaded poland.No, only once Hitler decided to attack the SU. He was impatient, impulsive, irrational.
>>523933843Cope.>>523933956I'm saying the way they conducted the invasion from the get-go suggests the point was to ethnically cleanse and seize the territory, not to neutralize a threat.
>>523933848Art from a century before AH disagrees.
>>523934101>Noexplain how it was possible to win ww2 (not including "losing, but losing with less bad conditions than post ww2)
>>523929261Fuhrerprinzip. Hitler sowed his own blame because of that policy and how open ended it left everything. Everything falls on him even though he basically took no part in almost anything national related in WW2 due to his very nature and lazy personality. He actually had a sound mind for tactics and long term planning but the drugs fucked him up. Dr Morell must have been an allied plant and I would not be surprised if it emerged he was in declassified files circa 2050. We know for a fact the allies had someone who could have murdered Hitler at any moment but they chose not to because they feared a competent military government taking over and leading Germany to victory as Hitler was a drug addled,sleep deprived and ill man at the height of the war. The entire inner circle and the feudal fighting is genuinely interesting and overlooked by 99% of people. Hitler was moulded by these people not the other way round.As for why?I'll just drop this quote from the chad that was Joachim Peiper: "History is always written by the victor and histories of the vanquished belong to a shrinking circle of those who were there. " -SS-Obersturmbannführer Joachim Peiper.Still hurts we'll never read his personal memoirs and accounts of the war because commies/Israeli's murdered him at his farmhouse and burned all his writings in France in 1976.
>>523934195examples? the reason why I frame it like that is because i don't see ww2 as rational. i don't think there was clear goal
>>523934073Well our oldest allies started a war they couldnt win and handed half the planet to the reds. They should have not been involved at all, but as we both know, both the UK and France hates white people and will do literally anything the jews tell them to do. Which is why both are pathetic shells of their former selves overrun with migrants. Truly, God is punishing them for their betrayal. >>523934195I don't have to cope with anything, you made shit up to win over our sentiments because you NATO faggots failed to mobilize the right wing into supporting Ukraine. No more brother wars faggot, now come back when you've deported the shitskins from Europe and dumped the jews. Until you've done that you dont have a leg to stand on
>>523934398>examples?The mass killing of civilians and POW's in general. I already gave you my reasoning. If all they were planning on doing was taking Stalin out and setting up a new non-communist regime, they wouldn't have gone out of their way to create so much bad blood against them. Logically, the best case future scenario for Slavs was the enslavement described in Table Talk.
>>523934504Hitler started WWII. Hitler invaded Poland and not the other way around. Hitler knew this would cause another world war and he did it anyway. And then he proceeded to murder millions of white people for no fucking reason. None of your pathetic bullshitting can change any of these facts.
>he was surrounded by incompetent and/or traitorous people like Goering, Milch, Halder, Kanaris, OsterYour serpentine Yiddish speak no longer has power here, kike.
>>523934904England started WW2 by involving themselves in a conflict that had nothing to do with them; supporting Polish atrocities knowing full well the goal was a land war in Europe. You can never change this fact. Nor can you stop its spread. Why do you support the people flooding our nations with migrants anon? Why do you support the pedophiles? Is it money? Or do you just simply hate white people? >>523934945>they just blatantly hire call center jeets nowMan the quality of shilling has declined over the past few years
>>523934728i already said that during the invasion civillians were killed due to ideological reasoning but i was talking about the invasion of the soviet union. the reason why i'am saying it's all over the place is because "german enlightening the east" was part of the german "folklore" before nazi germany, same for "russia being mongols and asians etc". The nazis elaborated on that however, especially hitler. I guess what i'am saying is that nazi germany doesnt have a clear set foreign policy because the leadership was extremly radical and in case of himmler straight up crazy(not all of the nsdap was like himmler, or hitler)
>>523934311>Dr Morell must have been an allied plantHe most certainly wasEvery crucial 'blunder' Hitler committed during Barbarossa was made right after a massive injection of stimulants and narco-hypnotics by Dr MorellAfter the war, Dr Morell's chief assistant Dr Wohlgemuth went on to drug, hypnotize and kidnap the chief of German intelligenceDr Morell sabotaged the German war effort in more ways, too. E.g. he stalled vital research into penicillin and sold fake lice powder to the ENTIRE Wehrmacht, costing untold thousands of typhoid deaths >>523934728>table talkFake and gay, if only because they were produced by the Soviet asset Bormann
>>523930405Wrong zhithead stop living in the past their is no we shut down nasa
>>523932410drown in niggea piss,island monkeyhow does tht winning feel like
>>523935495he is right though, you only want peace during war when you think you are about to lose
>>523934231>german heraldry>romantic oil paintingneck urself, retard
>>523935155You're a brainwashed cultist worshipping a guy who killed 30 million white people. Cope and seethe forever, you fucking retard.
>>523935566>he is right though, you only want peace during war when you think you are about to loseIn the summer of 1940 Germany was at the height of Europe as a continental superpower. The Brits had just been kicked out of Norway and France and war with the Soviet Union wasn't happening until a year later. How is this losing, exactly?
>>523934728I guess what i'am trying to say is that lebensraum was planned and thought of but i don't think it was exactly planned at the specific start of ww2. it seems like, to me, they miscalculated the polish thing. (they would have invaded the soviet union later on though)
>>523935887>Hitler killed 30 million white people>not Churchill>not Stalin>not Roosevelt>only HitlerYour lazy attempts to whitewash the allies crimes against us is as pathetic as it is transparent. Wake me up when you NATOfags deport the migrants and the jews. Until then youre a nigger loving faggot that seeks the extermination of the white race. Kys
>>523935941yes but the allies knew that the height of continental power is just temporary(especially talking about germany running out of recources)
>>523929261>Be a dictator supreme leader whos word is the law.>Surround yourself with incompetent and traitorous people>they are incompetent and traitorous
>>523935566>you>youas I keep sayingthere are no germans on this baordwhat are youa russian?an island monkey?a kike?
>>523936193>(especially talking about germany running out of recources)The Soviet Union was trading raw resources for military technology with Germany at that time.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German%E2%80%93Soviet_Commercial_Agreement_(1940)
>>523936312what do oyu mean by white people?communists?
>>523936312>Churchill was a good boy he dindu nothin'There you go again, playing dumb.Are the migrants and the jews out of Europe? If the answer is no, then there's nothing more to say. You defend those who destroy the white race, we defend those who defend us. The Germans defended us. You people did not. Simple as.
>>523936051Nazi Germany under Hitler killed 30 million white people. Yes.>not ChurchillNope.>not RooseveltNope.>not StalinI haven't denied Stalin also killed a hell of a lot of white people. Him and Hitler are the top 2 killers of white people all time.Pretending that Roosevelt and Churchill are equivalent to Hitler in the white people murdering category is fucking hilarious. You people are a joke.>>523936377Is this the part where we pretend that Slavs aren't white while simultaneously claiming that Nazi ideology considered Slavs Aryan?
>>523936312>>523936520Tf is this shit, is the bot broken?
>>523936579I had a typo.>>523936478Hitler defended white people by killing white people. Brilliant stuff. And I haven't praised FDR or Churchill. All I said is that they didn't kill 30 million white people like Hitler did. Because they didn't.
>>523936520Hitler didn't want a two front war. He probably thought they could handle poland and later on convince the west to "get rid of bolshevism"(including genocide obivously). after the war on germany was declared however, i think the nazi leadership quickly went panic mode and tried to blitzkrieg the soviet union.(didnt help that they thought that they were racially inferior)
>>523936520no this is the part where we talk about that the war was about defeating bolshevismbolshevism wonand now you drown in nigger pisshistory is just
>>523935639>why doesn't symbols of christendom contain sun swilrlsHmmm, I think you were born retarded and brown.
>>523936660Let me ask you something anon; do you support the physical removal of every jeet, jew, and muslim in America and Europe?
>>523936721>We're doing it, Patrick! We're defeating Bolshevism by murdering millions of Soviet children!
>>523937014Not if they're legal law-abiding citizens, no.Although I do adamantly believe that infant genital mutilation should be banned, which basically means I think Judaism and Islam should be illegal. Any kind of terrorism or rape gangs should be stamped out. And I don't have a particular issue with restricting immigration from this point on.
>>523937430So youre basically a neo-con then
>>523937570Neo-cons want to ban Judaism?
>>523937716Do you? Banning circumcision and banning jews are two different things. Otherwise your platform is essentially "maintain our deteriorating status quo"
>>523937853Banning circumcision is banning Judaism. Period.>Otherwise your platform is essentially "maintain our deteriorating status quo"I'm not a politician. I don't have some platform to sell you. You asked my opinion on one topic. No, I don't believe in aggressing upon the rights of legal law-abiding citizens because they don't pass a racial purity test. And I don't believe in some totalitarian collectivist ideology where everyone is forced to submit their individual will to the "greater good" of "the white race".
>>523929261Everything is fake and gay. What makes you think everything since the 1900s was not fame and gay too?
>>523938485thoughts on us historical collectivist racial laws?
>>523929261the reason for Germany's defeat is multifaceted, it's not the fault of anyone specificaly
>>523938485Politician or not your posts here serve to sway anons into some manner of thinking or another through emotional manipulation >think of the children! So clearly you want something, and thay something appears to be maintenance of the existing status quo and minimal disruptions to globohomo and its objectives. I mean come on man, you sit here and winge about white deaths in WW2 while fully supporting the regime thats erasing us from Europe. Who do you think youre fooling? Do you think we dont notice how you all use the same language, the same scripts? If youre going to pretend to be a white nationalist go all the way, this gay fence sitting is a telltale sign of an outsider thats using the classic >how do you do my fellow whites!>boy I sure love white people but I would never ever let them have an ethnostate Give me a fuckin break man, pick a side and commit. Do you support whites or not
>>523929261>Why do mainstream historiansJewish
>>523938605Which ones? I'm against slavery, but I'm not gonna moralize about it since it was practiced by all of humanity until recently in the grand scheme of things.I don't have any particular issue with being racially and culturally selective about who can immigrate and become a citizen.
>>523938901 the old america is full of colletivict racial laws(citizen restriction, segregation), even the us military during ww2 was segregated. he is obviously a gop conersative and should be proud of it, own it.
>>523933848what other symbol would you suggest?Do NOT tell me a cross.Swastika is pretty based
>>523939111He cant be proud, the GOP are the designated losers. They only exist to be a punching bag and to provide token resistance to globalism while not doing anything about it. Thats why he as to pretend to be a white nationalist to sway online discourse, they have nothing to offer us and they know it but they want us back on their plantation.
>>523929261Hitler should have frozen the war after the invasion of France and declared victory. Retard thought this was a video game that must be completed.>but muh Stalin would have attacked GermanyNo. Stalin was the one who knew that Hitler was going to attack first but he never thought that Hitler was retarded enough to do it so soon.
>>523938901You can oppose the status quo without worshipping a meth-addicted psychopath who murdered millions of people, and adopting a contrarian reactionary desire for some absolute totalitarian dictatorship. >I mean come on man, you sit here and winge about white deaths in WW2 while fully supporting the regime thats erasing us from Europe.I haven't supported any modern regime. Me saying Hitler was bad doesn't imply anything except that Hitler was bad. >If youre going to pretend to be a white nationalist go all the wayI didn't say I was a white nationalist. >boy I sure love white people but I would never ever let them have an ethnostateI didn't say there was anything morally wrong with an ethnostate in and of itself, the problem is how white nationalists would go about achieving that in a place like America. The Turner Diaries is a pretty good and famous indicator of that, i.e. murdering lots and lots of innocent people.>Do you support whites or notI support whites as long as whites are still worth supporting. If whites suddenly want to take civilization back to the middle ages and genocide everyone else in the world or whatever else, I'm not going to support them just because they're white and their Hyperborean alien blood is so much magically superior to everyone else's.
>>523939111>>523939542I'm not a conservative. And there is absolutely no collective will to reinstitute segregation or slavery or whatever else, so fantasizing about it is pointless. And it was a different time, so like I said I'm not going to moralize about it either.
>>523939553>No. Stalin was the one who knew that Hitler was going to attack firstHitler simply beat Stalin to the punch. The soviets were planning to attack Germany sometime in August 1941. The were in an offensive posture and got caught with their pants down, and over 3 million soviet soldiers and officers were captured within the first 3 months of the war.
>>523939905you moralize based on possibilites? just say what you think about the old united states, i'am curious.
>>523929638>well you nazis offered peace after they conquered a bunch of territory in a war of aggression so that they could keep their gains without any push back>that means Hitler was a man of peaceman, nazis are the slimiest fucking people on the planet, holy shit
>>523939939>>523936696>>523931378
>>523940063desu i think the territory they held would have been returned, excluding regions with german majority people, sudentenland etc but yeah, still, lol
>>523940055>you moralize based on possibilites?No, that's not what I said. Basically what I was saying was that I'm not gonna judge people for practicing slavery at a time when that was considered normal on a civilizational level. Similar to how I'm opposed to the institutional torture of animals in factory farms, but I understand that the majority of people are going to be okay with it until it's not normalized anymore. >just say what you think about the old united states, i'am curious.Too vast of a topic for a succinct answer. They made some big mistakes but they got some things really, really right. I'm thankful for the 1st and 2nd amendments, and for the defense of individual freedom in general.
>>523940063>war of aggression England and France declared war on them>>523939776God, save me the pearl-clutching. It gets so old. So does trying to astroturf the term 'contrarian'. God damn its been three years and it hasn't caught on, take the hint. Then again its not up to you, its up to your board, isnt it? They determine what opinions and jokes that youre allowed to use on here anyway. >I didn't say I was a white nationalistYou and I both know that you frame WW2 as 'Hitler killing whites' so that you can concern troll as a white nationalist, dont play dumb. If you weren't trying to fit in you wouldn't specify their race. >I support whites as long as whites are still worth supportingAnd there it is. You dont give a shit about white people, you just see us as a means to an end. No wonder you hate Hitler. He would have ruined your playtime.>i.e. murdering lots and lots of innocent peopleYou dont seem to care when they murder us. Oh, you'll put up some token statement about how you dont 'support it', but youre not willing to do anything about it. So what use is your protest other than virtue signaling?
>>523940063>war of aggressionFrance and England declared war on Germany first (but interestingly enough they never declared war on the Soviet Union). After that the English tried to conquer neutral Norway due to its geostrategic role for Germany's iron ore shipments, but the Germans got there first (afterwards the Brits successfully occupied neutral Iceland). The Brits also invaded and occupied other neutral countries like Iran (together with the Soviet Union), Syria, Lebanon and Iraq.
>>523940577>You and I both know that you frame WW2 as 'Hitler killing whites' so that you can concern troll as a white nationalist, dont play dumb. If you weren't trying to fit in you wouldn't specify their race.I'm specifying it because the people worshipping him are white nationalists. Also, because the people I'm talking to don't give a shit about the nonwhite people he killed. >And there it is. You dont give a shit about white people,I am white people.>you just see us as a means to an end.You're the one that sees all white individuals as a means to an end, just units that need to subordinate their will to the greater good of the race. >No wonder you hate Hitler. He would have ruined your playtime.Yeah, I don't want to live in some totalitarian slave state. Sorry, bud. >You dont seem to care when they murder us.You're assuming a lot based solely on the fact that I don't like this one genocidal dictator you worship.>Oh, you'll put up some token statement about how you dont 'support it', but youre not willing to do anything about it.What are you doing about it, exactly? Simping over a foreign regime from a century ago on an anonymous image board?
>>523940063>>523940792Oh, and let's not forget that the British intelligence instigated a coup d'etat with the help of local communist sympathizers in Yugoslavia immediately after Yugoslavia joined the Axis powers in the spring of 1941, overthrowing the legitimate government at that time and placing pro-Western Serbian officer puppets in power.
>>523940792>declared war on Germany firstWhy did they do that?
>>523941281Who knows?
>>523941281>Why did they do that?Because they gave empty guarantees to the Poles in case of a German invasion (but not a Soviet one) several months prior to that. After which the Poles started chimping out on the local German minority and began to revive their old chauvinistic territorial appetites, all the while refusing to negotiate solving the Danzig corridor problem with the Germans.
>>523936858Hey, retard, look, here's a Swedish painting of Näcken from the same era. He's part of germanic folklore too so that makes him part of Swedish heraldic tradition, right? NO YOU UTTER MORON
>>523932238The Cold War was a nothingburger. The end result of the Cold War was the division of the world under Jewish Communism and Jewish Capitalism, i.e., exactly what Hitler predicted.USA and USSR are and were allies.
>>523932428Jesus, he must have been pure buzzing all day.
>>523941695>The Cold War was a nothingburger.Yeah, because if it ended up not being a nothingburger then none of us would be alive right now due to the nuclear hellfire.>USA and USSR are and were allies.jfc
>>523929638kys russian trashwe're glad shitmany is dead and you will be nextrussia is the hyena whore of the world
>>523941096>wanting white people to survive and prosper is using them as a means to an endReally now >more pearl clutching The holocaust didnt happen and there is literally zero evidence for "9 million Slavic children" being killed. Once again youre trying to use emotional manipulation to undermine. >what are you doing about it Proselytizing. If it wasnt working, you lot wouldn't be here
>>523930726shitmany lost because germans are inferior loser trash and should be genocidedaccording to you own ideology anyway
>>523942128we are talking about realpolitiks but baits used to be believable at least xd
>>523942061There's like bajilion of evidence of german and soviet crimesYou're never going to win this stupid pointless argument of "I'm an edgelord and I think this war crime didn't happen or it was based or something"
>>523929261a lot of kikes and bots and pajeets in this thread, let the man speak for itself> 1. 25 Point Programme of the NSDAP 02-24-1920https://files.catbox.moe/6s156q.mp4> 2. Why are we antisemites 08-13-1920https://files.catbox.moe/qmywyr.mp4> 3. Freedom or Slavery 07-28-1922https://files.catbox.moe/yvkx74.mp4> 4. Defense 02-26-1924https://files.catbox.moe/qbrju6.mp4> 5. Closing Arguments 03-27-1924https://files.catbox.moe/b2fvvh.mp4> 6. The Refounding of the Movement 02-27-1925https://files.catbox.moe/o87yf2.mp4> 7. Workers of the Hand and Workers of the Mind 01-18-1927https://files.catbox.moe/fk3cik.mp4> 8. The Industry Club Speech 01-26-1932https://files.catbox.moe/4tznkh.mp4> 9. First Radio Broadcast as Chancellor 02-01-1933https://files.catbox.moe/dkpqlv.mp4> 10. Address to Reichstag regarding the purges of the Night of Long Knives 07-13-1934https://files.catbox.moe/iidqap.mp4> 11. Reichstag Speech - Four Years of National Socialism 01-30-1937https://files.catbox.moe/ia0fnc.mp4> 12. Address to the National Socialist Women's League 09-10-1937https://files.catbox.moe/5smto1.mp4> 13. On Church and State - Excerpt 01-30-1939https://files.catbox.moe/11x3dv.mp4> 14. Declaration of War on the United States of America 12-11-1941https://files.catbox.moe/ub056e.mp4> 15. Final Radio Broadcast to the German People 01-30-1945https://files.catbox.moe/r0u489.mp4BONUS:> Horst Wessel Lied (RARE Version) (The theme song of the National Socialism movement.)https://files.catbox.moe/hjnrl4.mp3> Boundless Space (A meditation on White culture.)https://files.catbox.moe/jmmcsq.webm
>>523939181I dont know, the Bundeswappen? Hitler wiped his ass with tradition, pic related
>>523942396who gives a shit? he lostno one cares what losers have to say
>32 seethe postskek
>>523939939>The soviets were planning to attack Germany sometime in August 1941they weren't>The were in an offensive posture and got caught with their pants downbecause the military purges destroyed their combat readiness and Stalin had every general (like Tukhachevsky) who believed in anything besides waging immediate counterattacks as a defensive strategy executed
>>523942061>wanting white people to survive and prosper is using them as a means to an endYou are using them as a means to an end for your ideology, yes. Since you hate and lash out against any white people who don't agree with your authoritarian ideals. >The holocaust didnt happen and there is literally zero evidence for "9 million Slavic children" being killed.Sure thing, bud. The Nazis dindu nuffin. They were a bunch of good Christian gentlemen, and they kept all the Jews safe in comfy heated 5-star hotels.>Proselytizing. If it wasnt working, you lot wouldn't be hereI was in your lot for years until I realized it was all a bunch of unstable antisocial schizos and outright genocidal psychopaths fantasizing about the day they get to murder people.
>>523942754you're brown and gay, go kill yourself
>>523944854You're irrelevant.
the fact that even rommel turned on hitler says alot , hitler clearly lost it to lose such a legend
>>523929261germany had the strongest and sexiest men in all of the whole world
>>523942754>I was in your lot for years>how do you do my fellow white nationalists This is getting boring, youre repeating the same script now
>>523945094Yeah? What about america? Our boys and girls were climbing the rockies, shooting grizzlies while the germs were busy studying like dorks.
>>523945283You guys have been repeating the exact same script since Rockwell started this shit 66 years ago.
>>523929638kike slaves will disagree with this and post kosher bullshit
>>523945374You literally read off a script to shill here dude
>>523942521apparently you desperately care
>>523930486>and cities starting to look demolishedYou've literally started the war by turning Wieluń into rubble.
>>523946075Didn't you watch Europa: The Last Battle?You guys massacred 6 gorillion Germans in Danzig the night before. Hitler so desperately wanted peace with you guys and thought you were totally Aryan
>>523929712>ID is gayLmao
>>523929413>"scorched earth" orders>>General Plan Ost myth about how Germans wanted to starve all slavs by taking the Ukrainian plane>>the plane got taken>>it was the bolshevik's golem that burned everything in retreat unlike the Germans who needed the land to feed the army that now was occupying it>>the bolsheviks didn't actually starve since the judeo-american empire was already feeding them for years the entire timeit's called History™ sweety, look it up!
>>523946932>"scorched earth" ordersThis shit isn't even remotely in contention lol
>>523946932We know a lot about what German occupation actually looked like in Eastern Europe, it was violent and inhumane. It's consistent with the plans for Generalplan Ost. That is history, like it or not.
>>523947407Conspiratards will deny that there were any planes on 9/11. They will deny that nukes were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. They'll fucking deny that the earth is round, which we literally knew thousands of years ago. They just deny whatever the fuck they want to deny.
The German army was a fearsome beast. Even in defeat. Look up the battle of Bautzenhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Bautzen_(1945)This is the sort of shit the Germans were still capable of achieving right up until the end of the war. Severely under strength, practically out of fuel, with absolutely nothing left to hope for.Here's another one that is just astonishinghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Halbe>Be Walther Wenck commander of German 12th Army ( By 1945 German "Armies" were so badly depleted they were more the size of an Infantry Corps, if even that.)>Disengage from active combat against advancing American forces ( which is an extraordinarily difficult military feat to carry out without suffering massive causalities )>Turn your army completely around and march East to save as many of your comrades as possible in the German 9th Army, which has already been incredibly fucked over by the Russians.>Totally ignore idiotic orders from Berlin. Fuck them. Lets deal with reality instead.>Fight your way through the Russians with your exhausted men, while lacking basically every sort of supply and equipment you can imagine, and with zero air support.>Manage to save about 1/3 of the 9th Army from certain destruction.>Be one of the last men to cross the bridge to safety.Despite the fact that the bulk of the 9th army was still destroyed the mere fact the 12th Army accomplished the rescue of at least 1/3 of them, while also inflicting a severe drubbing on the Russians, in the conditions faced by the Germans in the last two weeks of the war, is nothing short of fucking miraculous.
>>523947407>It's consistent with the plans for Generalplan Ost>>taking the breadbasket will starve tens of millions of slavs to "clear the land">>they take the breadbasket>>tens of millions don't starve>>German troops will burn and raise the land that has to feed them since the homeland has neither the capacity nor the free logistical throughput to sustain them>>it definitely wasn't the bolshevik golems that were driven out of that land they no longer had a use for and were eating Californian tins shipped from the other side of the worldvery consistent
>>523930405>Germany literally sided with the commies first.Incorrect.> "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Famine_Relief_Act".
>>523947994But tons of people did starve. And that was because of the German policy like the Hunger plan.
>>523929261NEW BAKEGET IN HERE>>523948022>>523948022>>523948022MOVEOVERNEW BAKE
Because from a military strategy perspective if you put a bunch of trust in untrustworthy people it's on you.
>>523929261haven't u heard? hitler is le devil
>>523939939>The soviets were planning to attack Germany sometime in August 1941kek, if only you knew. Stalin didn't even believe his own men to the last minute about the imminent German attack. He even asked to meet with the German ambassador after the war started to see if this was really a war declaration or some rogue general disobeying Hitler.
>>523949689He was too retarded for a devil.
>>523947844Then to add its astonishing that out of all the countries that fought in WW2 the only one that didn't become fucked up, and actually improved somewhat, was China.Arguably Japan as well, but it looks like they are going to start importing jeets soon.All of the Western nations have now become demographic hellscapes being taken over by 3rd world invaders. All those guys who fought, suffered and died. For fucking nothing.Soviet Union dissolved into a collection of irrelevant shitholes run by thugs, and the Russian rump state which is barely relevant except for its energy reserve and cant even beat Ukraine..All the irrelevant shit countries who were bribed to join the Allies, like Brazil and Mexico, most of them just stayed the same or became even more corrupt and poor.So the lesson here before you get involved in any world war is this: Learn from China. Be racist as fuck, not be white, engage in a civil war at the same as fighting an invading enemy, do fuck all except hold on long enough to survive. Then go to war against the people who helped you ( Korean war ) and vilify them.Seems to work.
>>523929261Who put those people in those positions of power you dumbass, the fuck? What on earth is this post? Also had Hitler not taken over military command after barbarossa, they would had alot more fucking soldiers left, instead of millions being wasted holding pointless lines and letting his GOOD commanders COMMAND
What would the odds of it not being the case be?Any larger military with a tradition has complex existing structures with experienced decision making and an officer class. Said officer class, especially back then, draws additional experience and authority from a family (often nobility) history in the profession. As such the male heir eould often have their path cut out at birth and receive appropiate education.What are the odds that a random uneducated peasant, whose only experience in the field is participation in WW1 - equal to the average joe back then - would be able to single handedly assume all those roles and even outclass them?So what do you think happens when a dictator lacks better judgement and thinks it would be good to reserve and exercise the right to override any decision said officers make?
>>523929638that newspaper title is so heartbreaking, especially knowing what we are suffering now.
>>523932746This is the emperor betrayed by his marshals trope.
Stalin was a communist. Communists in that era regarded fascism as a kind of feudalism.According to their theory and experience, the feudal-bourgeois war that began in 1939 would be long and hard, like WWI, and would end in German defeat.USSR would then sweep westwards liberating Europe from exhausted victors.This did not happen. Rapid German victory in 1940 caused consternation in Moscow.Stalin was confused and depressed and didn't know how to react.(Khrushchev writes about this in his memoirs.) Then came Barbarossa and 20 million Russian dead.After the war, the communists amended their theories. Fascism was now the "armed wing of the bourgeoisie" -- and the most deadly threat to socialism.
>>523950528That's kind of the point though, the peasant proved himself right by advancing further in a year than all of the old guard did in the whole of WW1. Surrounded by bootlickers and yes sayer you quickly get addicted to your own farts.
>>523930726Hitler was operating on some faulty Marxist premises like "shrinking markets." He thought economics were a zero sum game and eventually Soviet industrialization would destroy Germany since there would no longer require German industrial imports. The whole thing was doomed from the start though as Nazi Germany was running a 30% oil deficit on the eve of Barbarossa. The chances of securing the Caucuses with horse-drawn supply lines were always going to be non-existent.
>>523930726Poland fell in like two weekswhat are you even talking aboutyou falseflagging Pollack
>>523954646You're unusually retarded, even for a memeflag.
>>523931548Poland was an irrelevant shtihole that fell in two weeksand all of western europe fell a year later other than the UKshow your real flag, Pollack
>>523954675>40 posts in 6 hoursdo you sleep on this board you polish nigger?
>>523954753No, I sleep in your mom's bed
>>523953326But that is much like being fastest into the corner in a race.
>>523929261because he was a drug addicted manlet
>>523955757>inb4 it's sped upslow it down and it still looks just as bad
>>523955757Hitler was the most photographed and filmed man in historythat video is speed up and none of you ever show the originalshow us any similar videothere would be no shortage I can guarentee you of thatyou canthere is another video from the same olympics btwlooks perfectly finehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzkSyya3EKs
>>523955963>>523956035
>>523956114come on, kikeshow us the originalwhy cant you?
>>523956264Literally just press the button in the bottom right corner and change the playback speed.
>>523942521>they were in offensive position with millions of soldiers, airfields and tens of thousand of tanks on the german border because Stalin had everone killed that wanted a defensive positionthat is about the stupidest thing I ever read
>>523956355its literally just a few clips of a man enjoying watching sportsmaybe its a football gamenothing there indicates anything else
>>523956538You're coping. The Führer is tweaking out and you're coping.
>>523929261>Hire incompetents and traitors >Waaaahh why aren't we winningNo wonder you dumb fucks love trump
>>523956744as I saidthe most photographed and filmed man on earthand all you have is him enjoying watching sportspathetic
>>523930359kek, every Stalin pic with FDR, he has that "hahahaha, can i kill him yet?" look
Hitler was a fool. He was terrible at public relations alienating natural political blocks and allies he would find in the east by calling them subhuman. All he had to do to win the conflict he initiated is:1)Negotiate with/subvert Poland like he did with every other eastern non-german state but in no case do it through war;2)Dress Barbarossa IN TRADITIONAL CHRISTIAN TRAPPINGS3)Make pilgrimages to the Pope, protestant bishops, and the Orthodox patriarchs for blessings of Barbarossa4)Promise no harm done to religious jews of any stripe.No west front, no lend lease, no US entry into the conflict that would never morph into WW2. Instead Hitler killed millions of innocent people in the east in his stupid racist war.
>>523959816>Dress Barbarossa IN TRADITIONAL CHRISTIAN TRAPPINGSUh...elaborate>Promise no harm done to religious jews of any stripe.Yeah, obviously the people with the ideology that says that Jews are the root of all evil in the world weren't going to do this
>>523959816you are really good at monday quarterbackingdo you do that for a living?what is there to negotiate with a polish state that doesnt want to give Danzig back and makes war alliances with other nations instead?>4)Promise no harm done to religious jews of any stripe.lolwut
>>523961506I'm not monday morning quarterbacking. Hitler had two examples - Napoleon and WW1 - to avoid at all costs.-Two front wars are bad - In WW1 Germany won in the east but lost in the west. Napoleon let his greed get the best of him and attacked an ally and turned Spain into a troop-devouring nightmare- In both WW1 and Napoleonic wars the power contending with Russia controlled Poland peacefully before the war started. Germany won in the east, but Napoleon lost. Not a sure thing - even secure and friendly logistical and communication lines does not guarantee victory in the east as the weather itself can defeat an army.But heck, Hitler can ignore these precedents and declare war against three industrial powerhouses.Whatever he did Hitler had to at all costs avoid a two front war. If that means waiting on Poland so be it.
>>523929261Who put all those incompetents in their place?Anyway, Hitler was fine until 1941, when he pursued Operation Barbarossa... instead of concentrating fully in 1940 on the traitorous jewish state of Britain and knocking it out via a Mediterranean campaign instead of that retarded Blitz.Dude didn't learn from history, the British elite are treacherous beyond all reason. And that you don't attack Russia, you let them attack you -- since they can't win those wars (see their 1939 Finnish invasion).
>>523962421hu?he did thatthats why he did a temporary alliance with the soviets after Poland allied with the english and the frenchthen he conquered all of Europe other than the UK, who he tried to negotiate desperately all throughout 1940because he knew exactly what youre talking about
>>523962665Hitler didn't bribe/subvert Poland - he attacked it! Hitler had to guarantee a friendly and helpful regime in Poland. Instead he attacked it, committed war crimes against the population and got the western powers involved. Then the Brit scum started working on the US to get it involved. Stark the US admiral who was involved in the negligence leading up to Pearl Harbor was immediately put in charge of the naval planning of D Day! Hitler played right into the hands of the Brits and their allies in the US.
>>523929413>>523929712>id: gay >45 posts of kike nigger nonsense faggot gay nigger amerimutt ...
>>523963251there was zero problem with Poland throughout the warPoland is an irrelevant shithole and always has been
>>523930696>>523931160ROFL its a fucking normgroid cuckservative....lol fuck off faggot
>>523963320>>523963444You are become Cringe,Destroyer of Threads
>>523963511>50 posts in ten hoursdoid your grandfather crawl out of an oven?
>>523930008Monarchy didn't stop Britain becoming a hellhole.
>>523963345Poland provided the casus belli for France and the UK to get involved. France got their ass kicked but Britain immediately started on the US to provoke a war entry by the US. Germany had to avoid that at all costs! If Germany never provided a casus belli in Poland the war on the western front in its two segments never would have happened.
>>523963579Yes. He narrowly moonwalked past the bear, the eagle, the rollercoaster, and the backwards-facing shotgun.
>>523963885obviously
>>523963583https://youtu.be/bMdRR0uOZzc
>>523963696youre just retelling the story of the warall youre doing is monday quarterbackingwhat I agree about is that Hitler had a strange admiration for the britishhe thought they were rational actors
>>523930887I don't believe Stalin would have had the balls to launch a German invasion. They could not take on Finland in 1939.Britain and France were planning on attacking Russia and declaring war in 1939/40 over it's invasion of eastern Poland and Finland... but the Finnish war ended before they could to it.Had Hitler more basic foresight, he would have pitted the two sides against each other.... rather than grouping 3 super powers, two of which dwarfed his population, together.USSR invading Germany alone was not a threat. They are poor in invasions -- we see that with Finland and now Ukraine. Only with a war of annihilation and lendlease, particularly the 150,000 studebaker trucks that allowed them to Blitzkrieg Germany so well in 1944.Hitler would have been actually better off letting an unsupported USSR invade the Reich (he had 1/2 of poland as a buffer zone) and just concentrated on finishing off Britain with a basic Mediterrean campaign.
>>523964094Nah, I'm pretty sure he's Tuesday halfbacking
>>523964496>USSR invading Germany alone was not a threat>we see that now with Ukrainelolthe entire thread is a joke
>>523964606meant for here>>523964472
>>523964094I'm telling the story of the war by reminding Hitler worshipers that he was a monster and stupid. Heck, the campaigns in Poland and France cost plenty of troops, and were a harbinger of the profligacy with which Hitler wasted them. Being tied down in the Med due to Italian missteps was another unforced error. Hitler derived no benefit from the tripartite pact. The actions of Rudolf Hess demonstrated exactly how a member of Hitler's inner circle felt about fighting a war with the Brits involved.
>>523964748>Heck, the campaigns in Poland and France cost plenty of troopsno they didntwhat are you even babbling about>Being tied down in the Med due to Italian missteps was another unforced errorbut not from Hitleryou stupid fuck
>>523964844That shows you how brainwashed you are. If the goal is lebensraum in Russia you don't waste troops elsewhere. When given the opportunity the allies fought fiercely in 1940, but the leadership sucked. Still, the Germans lost troops needlessly, and later had to garrison troops in France, troops that would not be available for Barbarossa.
The state of /pol/ surely is grim. On the other hand, this thread lets you measure anon/shill ratio.
>>523964844Hitler pre ww2 - goal is lebensraumHitler in ww2 - troops in France, Greece, the Balkans, North Africa, Sicily, Italy
>>523965458>>523965179that was necessary to rid Europe of Jewsit was his historical missionand you are still quetching about it
