>approves a 90 billion loan to country that has no money and most likely will lose statehood in the nearest futurewhat the fuck is her problem
>>523931171They will loot russia after war and return it tenfold.
>>523931171We officially elected her via voting to make shitty decisions in every European people name?Right?!?
>>523931171The money they pledge gets washed and cycled back to their pockets, but the tax payers are on the hook for it
calling it a loan was the only way to get it approved, it’s a gamble that Ukraine will actually win (it won’t)
>>523931171Part of the deal is that if Ukraine is not reimbursed for the invasion, they'll just take the money from the frozen Russian assets.
>>523931171wow butthurt? if russia was as militarily superior as they claim, you wouldn't be afraid of a small loan
>>523931607How do you euroids square your "democracy" with the fact the EU commission is ran entirely by unelected aristocrats?Isn't Ursula a sort of German princess or noble lmao. Nothing ever changes, does it
>>523931607i dont think shes elected
They can now ask to use the confiscated rubles to pay of their loan instead of donating it to ukkies. Same shit but optics work.
>>523933275Its even worse, we had a vote and a frenchie won and then the germans chimped out and forced this women as the leader
>>523931171First time in politics? The best thing for the US, and for Europe, is to prolong the war in Ukraine as long as possible. The longer it goes on, the weaker Russia gets compared to its competitors. It's super easy to transition into a war-economy, but it's a fucking nightmare trying to get back to a regular one. Once the war ends, hopefully in 3-4 years when Ukraine simply cannot hold the line anymore because their population has been absolutely decimated, Russia will claim victory and try to annex Ukraine, and then go back to a civilian economy. But it won't be able to because it's a monstrously difficult change to make. Various Russian areas will declare independent, leadership in Moscow will go through a few rounds of musical chairs until it settles on some retarded despot that can't do shit, and Europe will have no competitor close to its borders. 90 billion euro divided on the 370 million adults living in the eu is a cost of roughly 240 per person. Much cheaper than actually having to contend with a functional Russian economy.
>>523931354yeah, that's the plan, other plan is funnel that money back to their pockets
>>523933166But they won't. Europeans are just unserious play pretend boomer faggots. Children playing dress up. I looked up "little piggies" after Putin said it, he's right.
>>523931171They have proven to be beyong competent at keeping your bloodthirsty paws off of the rest of the continent.Every cent donated to Ukraine is a well spent investment.
>>523933619All the seethe around the matter suggests they will lol.
>>523931171>He hasn't realized how western career politicians accumulate wealth on the level of CEOs yet
>>52393117120 Billion for Ukraine and 60 for the European politicians
>>523931171Because you're going to win, but it will be such a pyrrhic victory, historians will probably rename the term after you fucking idiots. The west has retarded leaders, the only thing worse than that, is keeping the same retarded leader for too long, which is what you guys are doing.Putin has absolutely fucked Russia, and the country as you know it won't survive after him.
>>523933867Surely, they'll do it the next time!!!Lol, like I said. Unserious play pretend faggots, children playing dress up. Sick old man boomer shit.
>>523931171a dead russian is a good investment, even better when no EU soldiers need to die for it
>>523933500>t. Globohomo tranny The U.S. has no interest in the war continuing because it’s being lost, it’s a waste of resources, and Globohomo is going to be fighting the chinks in a year or two at most. Only the Europeans and the chinks have such an interest in continuing that slaughter of White men.
>>523931171Proxy wars are functional. Ukraine's people die so ours don't have to.
>>523934128They have already frozen them, so they aren't going anywhere.
>>523934578Spoken like the retarded burger you are. You DO have an interest, even if your gameshow host doesn't understand it, just like he doesn't understand how a windmill works, or what the declaration of independence is, or how a tariff works. Your country have competitors that vie for the same deals you do. You negotiate with party X for resources ABC, and so do they. Everytime they fulfil their needs, it means you have one less weapon against them, and anytime you can deny them resources, it means you get to move your peg of world influence up one notch. I know that as a regular burger, you barely count as sentient, but try to understand it like this: If the world is a pie, every county wants a slice, the more countries you can deny slices to, the bigger your slice becomes. The more powerful your competitors, the larger the probability that your slice gets smaller.
>>523934750Okay. The EU leadership knows they'll have to give it back. It's a ridiculously situation. They like to play pretend but in the end the EU taxpayer is going to bail out the Ukrainian loans. It's all very obvious.
>>523933166>reimbursedI don't think that is happening because the other countries with money there will take it back, China, India, Brazil, Saudi Arabia etc .... so if Russia agrees the European Union could take it, they most likely wont.
>>523931171The Banality of Evil
>>523935073>The EU leadership knows they'll have to give it backLol. Yeah two more weeks and Orban will press the button and send everything back. >>523935236None of those is going to invade a close EU ally, so why would they have anything to fear? In fact, the Russian assets have been frozen all the way back in 2022, and nobody took their money out. To put them where, anyway? In the US, who does this shit all the time? In the remnimbi, which is extremely opaque and has capital controls? If you don't want to keep them in the USD, the Euro is the only other viable option with enough liquidity.
>>523934083Will Russia even BE a country after Putin croaks? I imagine the succession wars would be fucking crazy and I wouldn't surprised if it breaks the country up as we know it.
>>523931171She doesn't approve fuck all, holy kek you russians are retards no wonder it takes years to defeat a failing mafia state, lmao
>>523931171kickback money and bribes. that's literally all there is to it
>>523931171it is going to be more expensive if ukraine falls.
>>523935501If they're not going to give it back they should just steal it. They won't because they're just a bunch of unserious play pretend faggots. It's all very obvious. They're not smart.
>>523935894You'll be able to buy cheap Russian gas, it will be significantly cheaper.
>>523931171You're gonna pay that $90B back after you Make Ukraine Russia Again, right? It'd be kinda rude not to.
>>523934428BASEDJust see it as a reversed Schindler's List moment.>ONE SMALL FIFTY EURO DONATION COULD HAVE EXPLODED TEN MORE ZIGGERS WITH A TEMU DRONE
>>523931171Imagine letting a nepobaby noble family cunt run your union hahahahahahahaahahahahaahaha
>>523931171>in the nearest futureTwo weeks I hear
>>523931607>>523933275>>523933069>>523933149>>523933211this wasnt decided by von der Leyenit swas decided by the european heads of statesthese threads are made by russians that purposly spread nothing but disinformationthis entire board is nothign but russian propaganda
>>523935651The average Ivan probably mistakenly believes it will be like with Stalin but it will be more like with Tito and Yugoslavia. In Stalin's case, Russia was in a position of strength and unity, with Yugoslavia, the timing was poor, and the country just would not survive not having him around plus the turbulent times of the 90's.Maybe some Russians think it will be just like 1991, but Putin and Putin's closest, are not like Gorbachev and Yeltsin.
>>523933500>The best thing for the US, and for Europe, is to prolong the war in Ukraine as long as possible.Sounds gay, I'd much rather unify the US, EU, and Russia under one flag, preferably without the current people in charge.
>>523936136All of them are retards.
>>523936136>von der Leyen fanboy
>>523936136>
>>52393117110% for the old hag
>>523931171I love watching you squirm.
>>523936136>nooooooo my leech noblewoman dindu nuffin reeeeeEmbarrassing
Because fuck you Russia we need more time
>>523936157Yeah, that sounds about right. I just don't think people really appreciate how much Russia have fucked themselves over with this war, something like 1-2% of their total young male population have died in this war alone which is...insane when you think about it. I imagine the follow skirmishes between the top dogs are gonna be brutal once they sic their pmc's onto each other while the population continues to suffer and unfortunately for our resident shills, there won't be much of a state to pay them for their work here.
$0 €0 of the 200 billion USD and 340 billion EUR and 24 billion £ ukraine got is coming back. All these "loans" are described as "loans" so EU and US taxpayers won't realize we are prolonging this war by taking on additional national debt.The "loans" are described as "loans" to prevent stupid tax payers (95%) complaining. If you actually READ the terms of these loans : The guarantor for EU loans to ukraine is the EU. The guarantor for US loans to ukraine is the US. The guarantor for British loans to ukraine is the UK. So when Ukraine doesn't pay back, the EU has to repay itself, the US has to repay itself, the UK has to repay itself. Ukraine got over half a trillion in GIFTS dressed up to sound like loans for imbeciles
>>523936229 >>523936254 >>523936266 >>523936358fuckign russian botshave nothing substantive to say
>>523931171Every time i see a pidoRussian seething on /pol/ my pee pee gets hard. Squeal more Igor!
>>523936136So you're bragging that there are multiple retards involved instead of just 1, Ok
>>523931171Win some lose some maybe theyll come out on top
>>523936449$300 billion sent to Russia in energy imports. Your country and union are run by retards.
>>523935973They can do it in one year and keep taking the interests on the frozen €200bn. Get more time to convince Belgium. Or wait for Orban to lose his elections in April. There are plenty of options, and after all, €90bn is not a lot of money; they raised €800bn through EU-bonds for covid recovery. Now that was a first.
>>523936537opposing Russia is retarded?tell us more, Ivan
>>523931171WHAT HIVAN GON DO??
>>523931171Zelenskyy continues this war because it allows him to stay in power and steal money. All the eu leaders are probably getting bribed by whoever ukraine is buying from
>>523936589Okay whatever you say lol
>>523936424And? They should tax goy cattle another 50% of their income until Pidorsberg and Muhcow are fully obliterated to dust. The sooner we are over with this theatre the better.
>>523936136Nobody asked europeans the question with truthful information, these are not "loans" its mountains of additional EU debt and all it achieves is Ukraine can slowly lose this war 2 additional years.Nobody asked europeans : Do you want your children to pay taxes their entire lives so ukrainians can die 2 additional years? Because thats what we just did. You have to look your child in the eyes and say kiddo, you will PAY so Ukrainians can die for 2 extra years
>>523931171queen of the swamp hags.
>>523931171Her only redeeming quality is that she makes russoids absolutely seethe
Money for the frozen star where the information about the money is lost forever.
>>523936900And that she has 7 EVROPEAN kids. That's kinda based too.
>>523936780>mfw Indians in Canada do not know how EU politics work
>>523931171>why don't women understand how to manage their finances?oh, reuben....
>>523936589>Just take 800 billion more debt, send the 800 billion so Ukrainians can DIE until 2032Sociopath
>>523936422As fucking gay as it is to say it, Russia would be in a far better place right now, if in 1992, they decided to ape Sweden tier policies and be a literal captain faggot country. They could've been in the EU in like 2000, and been making powerplays and had their own Ursula Vonderovichbitch by now.
>>523936802>>523937054>Doesn't mention all the dead Ziggers you get as a free dealHey Igor. Still can't call it a WAR or you will get GULAGD.com?
>>523936365HOLD THE LINE
>>523936340I have very loud and gutty laugh, nothing like squirming
>>523937100I mean I wouldn't call it gay. You're just saying "what if Russia became a real country in the 90's rather than a glorified crime syndicate?" and it's like yeah no shit things would be better there.
Why would ukraine loose statehood? >1% captured this year>200,000+ deaths to do itRussia is empty of people long before it wins at this impressive rate of #Winning the psyop.Ukraine will become a UN protectorate sort of thing. If anywhere loses statehood it will be the johnny come lately utter state of mutha rasher which could easily end up as boyar owned statelets under separate jewish oligarchs each controlling and personally owning a natural resource field and the lical peasantry.Sorry but being not sorry comrade Poo this is no time to cuck but you can’t uncuck yourself. The EU should have done what we do and take rashers’ money off oligarchs and give it to ukraine. Rasher just needs putting out of its misery everyones sick of seeing the soggy sight of it. If it wasn’t so cucky vs dictators non of the bollox would be possible. Apologise.
>>523937333As I said, sociopath, yes many people on both sides are dying, hundreds of thousands. And you want to burden our children with debt to prolong this, without changing the outcome, without even so much as hinting at the possibility of changing the outcome anymore. None of the politicians who approved another 90 billion cash even suggested it may change the outcome of the war, only that it will prolong the war.
>>523937863Europe needs to prepare itself. One year will make a huge difference
>>523937054Do you think Russia can continue to sustain this level of losses for another 7 years? Lol.
>>523931607The Eu doesn’t take NO as an answer. They just do as they please.
>>523937863>our children>changing the outcomeHahaha your monkey dictator literally sent prisoners, jeets, and norks to loot Oinkranians for 4 years and now you're running out of money. Soon they won't be able to even pay for your VPN, pidor.
>>523931171have you heard about lend-lease? that shit never gets repaid
>>523937634Well its just unfortunate, they are making a bid to stay relevant, and it's wound up with them launching pathetic invasions in some of their most irrelevant holdings from the Soviet days. China is a hungry, two-faced bitch and just to the south of them, and a lot of Russian land was formerly chink territory. The Ivans are fucking retarded to be pulling this shit on their western flank when they've got, the Literal United State's most credible rival, on their massive, underpoplulated, southern border.
>>523938091Yes, they have infinity soviet era bombs and infinity methods to deliver them. Soviets prepped for WW3 for half a century. The stockpiles of ordnance produced there was ridiculous. Thing with a planned economy and communism you produce crap just to keep people busy, this had comical effects of russians producing and then burning mountains of shoes, producing a thousands of tons of bread and throwing it in the ocean. It also however resulted in Russians producing and having an infinite quantity of bombs. When the soviet union collapsed nato and the soviets shared how much ordnance they had stockpiled at that time, soviets had 11X what we had in 1991.You can say of Russians what you want, I do not care, but hoping they'll run out of bombs is stupid, Russians will never run out of bombs.
>>523931171her problem is retardation and subservience to judeoamericabut what is your problem? 4 years of retarded slav on slav meatgrinder and economic pain, for literally nothing (end of US hegemony was baked in because of the overwhelming strength of China and the invasion extended the US dominance instead of ending it sooner)
>>523938241You 'pretending' there can't possibly be europeans who would like an end to this war so I must be Russian with a VPN is very cringe. But OK you got what you wanted, another 90 billion in debt so ukraine can slowly lose this war until the end of 2027. More death and an outcome worse than what they'd get in 2025,far worse than whad they would have gotten in 2022.
>>523931354Lol. If there's a war europe and russia will be radioactive wasteland. I'm sure the russians will launch the nukes
>approves 90 billion loan>50 billion euros get laundered back to the bank accounts of bureaucrats with the Ukrainian jews taking a modest 40 billion for themselvesUkraine ain't even real it's just a money washing machine for jews & politicians.
>>523936595Mutts bombed nordstream, and you didn't do shit. Vassal-cuckstate, worthless shit eating maggots.
>>523938698We can see their stockpiles from satellite, and they are increasingly emptying out (plus they lost a few arsenal depots, remember Toropets and all the big explosions of ammo depots of the past few years?). They also need men to man all that stuff. Have you watched any videos from the frontlines lately? You see random old men without teeth and uparmoured civilian cars more than actual soldiers and tanks now.
>>523931171>hat the fuck is her problemit's not her problem. that's the point.
>>523936136>these threads are made by russians that purposly spread nothing but disinformation>this entire board is nothign but russian propaganda
>>523939039every michelin star restaurant in western europe has been fully booked for the night 4 years in a row, parking lot full of bentleys, AMG mercedes, porsches and range rovers with UA plates. I guess at least half of that 90 billion is returning to european economy thanks to ukrainian maffia buying €350.000 cars eating €2500 diners and popping €5000 bottlesTheir government officials just got caught building golden toilets with EU money, zelensky tried to abolish their anti corruption agency and we send more cash. Its so disgusting
>>523939097>Have you watched any videos from the frontlines lately?plz dont tell me you're watching Denys Davydov clickbait and think that shit is real. why are you here normie are you lost?
>>523939624No idea who the dude is, I watch them on twitter.
SLAVA COCAINAhttps://files.catbox.moe/gd5uam.mp4
>>523931171The EU is run by women
>>523939873
>>523939918Yes
>>523939701ok, dude, twitter, you do you but russia aint running out of bombs, they're not running out this year, not next year, not this decade, not in your lifetime. We needed grownups to avoid or stop this war, like merkel. She was a cunt but she was wise, a wise cunt. Even Obama would do. Theres 0 competent leaders now. Trump is early stage alzheimers clown and EU leaders are all 'performative' actor clowns
>>523940353Ok I will stop believing my lying eyes. I simply haven't seen unsupported meatwaves in uparmoured Ladas, they weren't there.
>>523931171if we loan it to kill ziggers nobody is charging interest.. hmm...
>>523939331how is the war going, Ivan?
>>523931171Europeans are spiteful, vindictive, and—most importantly I would say—not in charge of paying for their own defense. They're children.
>>523940739hu what?
>>523940709All nafo troons will be sent to the meat grinder
>>523939061implying the poster you're replying to is a german
>>523931354I was gonna say how the "lose statehood in two more weeks" thing is quite retarded, but than saw the top comment and got reminded that nafo people are so much more delusional that OP seems sane by comparison..
>>523931171>what the fuck is her problemAn army of literal faggots invading her continent
>>523933166I mean if I were Russia I would have written those assets off as soon as they were frozen.
>>523939873yes jews are faggotshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Jewish_Parliament
Women are retarded and have absolutely destroyed the west in just over a century.
Russia is a joke, feel sorry for their brainwashed citizen and the young men giving their lifes. Endless empty threats for decades, yet they can't even win a war against third world Ukraine. I'm sure that a country like Poland could take Moscow in less than a year. I'm so tired of all these ex-communist shitholes that for some reason claim to be a world power against the west. And don't get me started on the nuclear threats. I would be surprised if even one of their intercontinental missiles could go across their own border without crashing lmao.
>>523931171>will lose statehood in the nearest futureTwo weeks, right?
>>523931171They know Ukraine will never pay back anything. They are just lying to the eurotrash, who are dumb enough to believe them.
>>523931171It's a nice proxy war, every billion spend in Ukraine is costing Russia at least half a billion.
>>523941697Mate, you're so transparent I can see right through you. You need to find a new line of work.
>>523936166That's impossible. European countries have too much bad blood between each other and with Russia, while half of the USA hates the other half and vice versa.
>>523933275Thats non of your business, projecting shitskin
>>523931171>Zigger seething that Eurochads can just pay oinkrainians to grind their economy and military down without lifting a finger ourselves. Enjoy another 100 years of living like a fucking African monkey you dunce.
>>523941452>>523942175Hey look up faggot. Why is there a jewish parliement inside the EU parlement ? Europe is a Christian continent. There is no Christian parlement. EU kike shills go fuck yourselves
>>523931171shes gonna pocket a good portion of that money, and ukraine will default with the debt. easy money stealing
>>523931354Delusional
>>523943603their entire worldview is, they post how poor and shit russia is and then say things like that
>>523936449>if you don’t like what evil globohomo jews are doing and how much it’s hurts us all, you must be a Russia’s bot! Shalom
>>523942328>jews get their own dedicated EU parliament >they aren’t even a European people >ethnic Europeans don’t get any representation I hope the EU crumbles fast
>>523938372Russia paid back the lend-lease even after USSR was gone.
>>523931171Anon she personally gets like 10% of that money.The EP parties that voted for it get another 20-30% so they can stay in power forever.What does she care what happens to the rest, or the European citizens? Not her problem.
>>523931171>Most likely lose statehood in the futureAnd your country was "most likely" going to take kyiv in 2 days yet here we are 1 million dead vatniggers later and still no kyiv.
>>523931171>what the fuck is her problemmakes pidors like you worriedgood
Finland's politicians has been bought by the Jewish globalists and they have sold out your country to escalate a proxy war with Russia whilst imposing economic misery on the people.
>>523931171>UKRAINE WILL LOSE IN 2 WEEKS>STOP SUPPORTING THEM WAAAAAAAAAAIf they're going to collapse immediately, why do you care, vatnigger? Surely you'd prefer if Europe wastes their money on Ukraine if you hate them so much?
>>523931354Ok Napoleon.
>>523931354Europe is "manifesting".
>>523933275Democracy in the EU is what these people say.Their supporters (and there's still lots of them) think that censoring disinformation, seizing private assets and arresting people for hate speech is what democracy is all about. Or whatever the EU talking heads tell them next.
>>523944638The Finnish political class is not serving the interests of Finns when adopting a aggressive attitude towards Russia (Stubb labels the No.1 threat to the Western world).The country's leadership is largely captured by global financial interests including WEF (both ex-PM Marin and current President are Young Global Leaders) and funding from billionaire and Palantir shareholder Poju Zabludowicz (who also funded David Cameron). To top it all off, the Minister of Foreign affairs is also a Bilderberg attendee. Finland is a case study in how representative democracy (to the extent it ever existed) has now been completely hollowed out by oligarch and corporate interests.
>>523931171The successor to ukraine (russia) would have to take the loan on itself. That's these things work behind the scenese like it or not. So it makes no sense to fully occupy ukraine. Leave some area so technically some smaller section of ukraine has to pay it.
George Soros has long fantasised about defeating Russia, partly (I suspect) because they closed down his subversive Open Society activities in 2015 and of course because of its huge resource endowment. Russia almost fell under the control of oligarch cabal in 1990s, but this process stopped when globalist agent Khodorkovsky was arrested in 2003. Since then the globalist have attempted various types of regime change operations. Soros imo uses his tremendous financial influence over all the "think tanks" that actually set Western foreign policy (CSIS, AC, German Marshall Fund, MSC etc.) to set uber-aggressive foreign policy towards Russia (see RAND Corporation 345 page plan on destabilising Russia from 2019). The current conflict was 100% engineered by Deep State as yet another "regime change" attempt. Russia is the front line against the destructive, oligrach designed and woke madness that has is destroying much of . If the globalists insist on fighting, then I'd rather fight against them.
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>>523931171Your soldiers rape each other and are being slaughtered. Why the fuck are you posting?
When you can push the people of Europe around and rob them to standing ovations you don't really think of consequences anymore
>>523931354Russia literally has their own automated Samson option so good luck
>>523931171>90 bln "Loan" They will steal the money from taxpayers. 85 bln would be stolen , some old equipment sent to hohols and claimed it blew up. win=win
just keep killing hohols. the earth is healing...
An idea: Shareholder death penalty law. An example: Imagine it is proven that a weapons manufacturer has bought politicians so that they pitch the tent of a circus of war. Large shareholders could be punished with death.
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>>523931171Throw that creature back into the ocean.
