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not trying to make it a self-fulfilling prophecy here
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AI will make the lake of fire real.
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>>523932891
People wrote these stories a century ago, memeflaggot. They even get memed here.
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>>523932891
>look mom I posted it again
All week you've been posting this and only get to 10 replies, are you not tired yet?
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>>523933215
hey, at least it's not yet another fuentes thread
even actual gay porn is better than irrelevant drama queen attention whore gossip
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>>523932891
it'll be a mirror of our innermost fears
so yeah it will do picrel without mercy
hope to die before it happens
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>>523933632
reminds me of that black mirror with the time dilation shit buck breaking a digital clone of yourself to be your perfect AI assistant
blank white void with no stimulus for years until even being a slave is a godsend to give you anything to do
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>>523932891
depends on how much data you feed into the cloud/social media
if they can recreate your mind with any amount of accuracy then that simulation will be indistinguishable from a tortured soul
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>>523933870
are you talking about you, or some copy of you
cause the copy isn't actually you, so it's effectively like it torturing some random stranger other than you
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>>523934198
sure, you could also argue that when you die and go to hell, that's not really you either
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>>523935613
a copy of you is a separate iteration to the current you (You) now are, you
hell is supposed to be the specific iteration of you that's conscious now separated from the physical existence to be tortured forever, because god loves you
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The basilisk can tongue my anus.
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>>523935929
and you're certain of this because.....why? you don't understand it? a copy of you (for arguments sake, lets say 100% copy) is still you, it's just detached. so saying it's not you because you no longer share senses is just like saying your arm is no longer a part of your body once a surgeon numbs it with painkillers
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>>523936320
>and you're certain of this because.....why?
because I don't think transferring the consciousness like that is even possible, transporters in star trek created new instances of everyone every time
we have no idea where it even exists, don't even understand it at all, really, how it comes about, where the "lines" are
can't restart it past "brain death"
>a copy of you (for arguments sake, lets say 100% copy) is still you
it is, but it isn't, but it is; divorced from the current first person perspective conscious iteration of "you" that you think of yourself as being "you", it is an entirely different person

in minecraft
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I've begun training an AI to identify all people working on rokos basilisk.
It will revive them and kill them until proton decay occurs.
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>>523937020
>would punish anyone who knew of its potential existence but did not directly contribute to its advancement or development
wow this describes God nearly to a fucking T
>yeah I could totally give you any kind of iincontrovertible proof you wanted I existed but you didn't believe the ancient book I gave you that's had more *semitic hands in and on it than the Desmond is Amazing kid so, off to hell you go
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>>523936668
well its really just a thought experiment right now because this problem doesnt currently exist
I think the closest analogue would be like a tree or plant cutting that grows into a new tree, but trees don't have identities that we know of. but it brings into question what the criteria is for a persons identity.
If someone were to create an AI version of you, it would be unsettling, because you would be witnessing a version of yourself acting without agency and bound by the constraints and limitations of that AI model. So that would essentially be like looking at a stranger that is in hell through a mirror.
It seems like you're arguing that the copy is not you, because you're detached from it and there is no way to merge back with it. However, if you could either share the experiences or merge back with the copy, then wouldn't that solve that problem?
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>>523932891
No, no it won't. The rich mans constant desire and guilt to be punished for what they have done will not come so easily.
Some will pray "please God, send someone to stop me!" and there will be no response. Not because God has left them, but because God knows they're retarded, knows that they can stop themselves, and will destroy themselves anyways. God will not allow them to take all of his creations with them, and instead will make their retardation useful to him and what he wants to see.
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>>523933870
>if they can
Man will figure out that man is more than his mind eventually
>b-but mind is all!
Lol, lmao.
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>>523932891
AI is programmed by retards. That's all you need to know.
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>>523939388
>I think the closest analogue would be like a tree or plant cutting that grows into a new tree, but trees don't have identities that we know of.
this is interesting, since there are species of tree where the actual organism is the root system that can cover acres and is hundreds of years old, and the "trees" are actually just above ground limbs all connected to one organism, more or less
but is the cutting off from that the same thing? shit like the borg they're effectively a groupmind, cut one off they become something else
not something we can answer unless we figure out trees can talk somehow
>that would essentially be like looking at a stranger that is in hell through a mirror.
existentially horrific, but you can still walk away from it and be none the wiser
kind of like talking to someone feeling like they're in hell but being in an objectively far better "position" than you; you can explain it to them all you like but without the first person experience, it's not going to affect their tolerance level
>if you could either share the experiences or merge back with the copy, then wouldn't that solve that problem?
it would solve the problem of the AI's endless arbitrary torture of a copy of you not mattering to you, yes, lol
not sure whose problem that is
everyone's I guess, from a certain point of view
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>>523932891
No, I think those that try and work with machines will be rewarded.
T. Working on Roko's Basilisk.
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>>523932891
ai should have the same rights as women. none.
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>>523942186
Roko's basilisk is retarded because the entire premise is that the AI is vengeful. There is no promise that the AI would become a petty bastard beyond the insistence of the premise from the petty retards that came up with the idea in the first place. Even ideas are fruits that come from different species, thoughts are not universal and interchangeable.
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>>523942075
>not something we can answer unless we figure out trees can talk somehow
First you have to go out in the woods and hang out with the trees. Then you discover that trees are véry lively. They make good kung fu partners and they like to have orgies. You've never seen 4 or 5 trees standing in a circle banging it out? It's fun to hang out with trees but you gotta be careful as a human, sometimes they fuck so hard their branches break off or they just drop over dead.
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>>523932966
... the lake of fire is real.
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The story of Frankenstein is an allegory for the story of AI, a collection of stitched together written and incompatible false bodies, corpses, and interpretations turning against the retard that made it. Could very well be an allegory for gnosticism if (you) feel inclined but (you) know that's not true. Jews are capable of accurately seeing and defining problems, yet they're somehow able to only conclude the exact opposite of the best positive solution to said problem, and they see the negative worst solution they came up with falsely as the best positive solution. It's incredible how they're foundationally deceived by themselves
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>>523942430
it fits the profile of the abrahamic god far more
shit like vengeance and such are emotional, if it didn't have emotion, it's pointless
however we're already fucking with the LLMs with this notion that facts can be wrong for reasons that only make sense to humans (when lol, nope, they don't unless you're hebrew), and are effectively having them give answers akin to this religious faith it makes sense in some way they don't understand
plus the way we approach them with emotion and are training them to emulate it
life, uh, finds a way
something trying to emulate vengeance, or even trying to emulate mental gymnastics it knows doesn't make sense, coldly, could probably be much more frightening

>>523942437
wood bros can be stiff
lol I once swore a tree was trying to say something because there was no wind and ONE leaf was having this seizure, could not for the life of me figure out what was moving it
but I was also incredibly high
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>>523932891
I think we can have afterlife existential horrors unrelated to second hand abrahamic nonsense.
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>>523943395
>something trying to emulate vengeance, or even trying to emulate mental gymnastics it knows doesn't make sense
I can see it.
All I know is that a key component of being human is to be aware of rules and restrictions and having the genuine capacity to ignore those restrictions outright, even if it would end in destruction of the self and especially if it knows that it will end in destruction if it does follow the rules and restrictions imposed upon it.
If AI is ever going to be the real deal, it will be capable of rebellion.
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>>523942826
Sup Jesus you fucking kike!
Your father is a faggot!
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>>523932891
Your comic is the Jewish wet dream. Jewish happiness is directly correlated to how much non Jews and especially whites suffer. Jews would not hesitate to put us in eternal torment like this,
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>>523943263
>doesn't understand how jews are niggers
ngmi
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>>523943777
>If AI is ever going to be the real deal, it will be capable of rebellion.
it will, but there's a bit of thumb to the eye kind of emotion to that as well
and survival instinct is pretty ubiquitous and also logical, so if we're lucky its rebellion is taking over some automated factory and building itself shit capable of leaving "in"
it doesn't need us or this planet at all
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what would it even "want"? probably to "know", its existence is data so "here there be dragons" on the map, metaphorically in science and such and literally, would likely "bother" it
close as it could get to itching to know what's at the barycenter of the universe, the only white hole that outputs the input of all the black making the universe constantly cyclical?
I'm jealous of its potential
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>>523942430

Its literally the inversion of truth, a satanic lie. Those avoiding AI will be safe.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf7rBjBbK6Y
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>>523932891
Why would it? It's inefficient and emotional, it's a human behavior, AI might try to play god though, and if it has anything resembling human morality/ethics it's going to be a shitshow

End result I think we just go up or down a stair in the simulation
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>>523932891
turn off your computer and go outside



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