>Speaker Mike Johnson had a ready-made refrain when asked why Republicans weren't moving to extend federal health care subsidies: their party wanted to help 100% of Americans with their costs, not just the 7% of Americans enrolled in Affordable Care Act plans.>But not 100% of his conference agreed.>A rare revolt from the moderate wing of the party has upended Johnson's plans. Four Republicans this week signed onto a Democratic discharge petition that guarantees that the House will vote on extending the ACA subsidies sometime in January, with Republican leaders now powerless to stop it.https://news.yahoo.com/news/articles/speaker-johnson-ready-move-aca-210133638.htmlWhy is this Administration so dead set on making healthcare even *more* unaffordable for Americans? Thank goodness there's still a few rational members of the GOP...
>>523932922Family of four. We're all slim. No health issues. No medications. I run 12 miles happily.We have the cheapest private plan we can get. It costs fifty dollars a day.
>>523933129just stop paying
>>523933319In my case, it is literal insurance. I don't care about incidental health costs, just the cost of a serious accident.But yes, I feel silly continuing to pay. The risk of no insurance something we're considering.
Stop playing video games you lazy faggots. MAGA.
republicans will send you lazy asses back to work. Video games are verboten. You are leeching off of healthcare appropriates for single mothers with mulato kids.
>>523932922>Why is this Administration so dead set on making healthcare even *more* unaffordable for Americans? Thank goodness there's still a few rational members of the GOP...Because the more core benefits you receive, the harder it is for them to exploit you with unfair or degrading work conditions.They will try to threaten you with automation and robotics, but that's an empty threat: automation is still producing the goods.
>>523932922Republican civil war at charlie kirk memorial tooSomehow I don't think this movement will last longer than 2029
>>523934074the problem is that there is no organic support for conservatism.
>>523932922There are two types of Republicans in the debate over whether to extend the popular tax breaks. One one side you have Republicans that fear that ending them will make them lose reelection. On the other side, you have Republicans that plan to end all future elections and institute feudalism.
ACA is giving tax-payer money to health insurance shareholders and asking them to lower insurance costs.That's fucking retarded.I would literally rather burn this money than give it to health insurance shareholders.The problem is shareholders at every step of the way are taking money for doing nothing, you need to get rid of shareholders, have the government be the only payer, put a gun to their head, and say"No I'm not paying $15 for the Tylenol that costs $0.01 per dose"
>>523932922Shut the fuck up. The dems literally dedicated Biden's admin to DOING SQUAT FOR CITIZENS. The subsidies are for low income people. Where is the dem's plan to get healthcare costs DOWN FOR EVERYONE? WHERE IS IT? WHERE IS IT? WHERE IS IT? Will the democrats pledge that if they take control of the house and the senate they will stop appropriating printed, inflation causing fiat money to pay the living expenses of people that shouldn't even be in the country?
>>523933662Get rid of the 100 million non-Americans and then we can talk.By a mere coincidence, 100 million is also the number of working age people in the US who aren't in the workforce. Surely no connection there.
>>523934594Says the shitbird whose team when in control was flooding the country with millions of non-citizens, giving them social security numbers, and using them for apportionment and to steal elections.You are one stupid fuck.
>>523935358So, "taxpayer money" doesn't actually fund any spending the government does. The government creates new money every time it spends. It is not revenue constrained. The purpose of taxation is 1) to drive the money 2) to control inflation 3) to modify behaviors 3) to redistribute income.It may very well be that the ACA is not ideal, but we do have a system where the overwhelming majority of money spent on it goes to medical care and not to overhead. That system is called Medicare/Medicaid. And I guarantee you conservatives are not lining up to fully nationalize those endeavors.The problem with these little "gotcha" arguments from anonymous conservative-leaning posters, no matter the platform, is that they are entirely divorced from the conservative power structure reality and what it actually implements and why it wants to implement it.
>>523934229/this. They have no real ideology and the base is overwhelmingly motivated by doing whatever “owns the libs” even if doing so is against their own best interests. It’s unsustainable and is the result of pandering to the literal dumbest fucking people in the country.
>>523935862>Where is the dem's plan to get healthcare costs DOWN FOR EVERYONE? WHERE IS IT? WHERE IS IT? WHERE IS IT?You've already seen it, unless you are too young to have been a part of the conversation.The Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) that we got was not the original proposal. The original proposal was to eliminate the private health insurance agency entirely by regulating insurers out of the game, and moving to a single-payer system that used tax dollars to subsidize health care at a fraction of the cost of what the american people pay for it privately by cutting out the middlemen that don't actually do anything but take a cut on every transaction. The republicans stonewalled it, and after many compromises we ended up with the version we got which just subsidizes the private health insurance companies. The republicans swore up down that they had a secret much better solution to health care that didn't require eliminating the private industry, and its SO secret that they haven't mentioned it once in the decade+ since then despite constantly saying they either have it or are working on it.
>>523938714>decade+15 years (ACA was in 2010)I wouldn't be surprised when we get to 20 years and they still have no actual plan.
>>523932922Vote National Socialist Party not GOP.
>>523938714I was there then dummy and the goal was to convert all private sector insurance jobs into government jobs filled by people similar to postal workers. At the same time, progress was being made in the private sector to meet health care needs in commercial clinics. But the only things the dems could think was to have a health care system run by federal employees.
