Media in China, is openly stating that Russia will collapse, and arguing that they need to seize at least a third of its territory.What are the implications of this?
>>523951726>fell for it again award
>>523951726"China should prepare for the worst: if Russia collapses, this territory of 7 million km2 cannot be lost" - Article published on the popular Chinese site NetEase"Currently, the Russian economy is in a difficult situation: GDP is even inferior to that of a single Chinese provincial region, and inflation is rapidly increasing. The war in Ukraine has been going on since 2022, the main forces of the army have been transferred to the west, and there are less than 50 thousand military personnel left in the Far East - essentially an empty shell. At the same time, the region is extremely rich in resources: gold, diamonds, oil, which make up a significant part of Russia's national reserves"."If Russia really collapses, the 7 million km2 of the Far East should not be lost in vain. History has already taught China bitter lessons. A forcible seizure is impossible - it would lead to international isolation, as in the case of Crimea. A smarter strategy is to act softly: invest, sign long-term contracts, support local forces friendly to China".
>>523951796"The region is sparsely populated, cold, with poor infrastructure, and Russia is not able to effectively manage it. China, by helping to close these gaps, is gradually taking control of key arteries". "Due to depopulation, the region risks turning into a deserted zone; Chinese migrants are already working there, but it's important not to provoke resistance from the local population"."In the event of Russia's collapse, the risk of fragmentation of the Far East will be high. China should prepare in advance".
>>523951726Good. Siberia and Kamchatka are rightful chink clay.
Why take Siberia, when Australia is more fertile and easier?
A blind deaf mute living underground his whole existence with no info from the outside world saw that coming.
>>523952084cringe
>>523951726is this a shill but chinese? same treatment with normal shills,also is pointless to shill the chinese citizens as is 15 years too early for the big crunch there
>>523952084It's really not a gotcha moment considering Australia is a stable country with F-35 and plenty of allies whereas this scenario is about Russia being isolated and destabilized either due to a power struggle after Putin's death or some sort of uprising following a big defeat or economic crisis.
>>523952319Russia is borrowing billions of yuan to finance its imports from China. These loans will not be repaid so whatever collateral is being put up will belong to China soon.
>>523952084The US military believes that Australia would likely be a greater target for Chinese expansionism. And you're right, it would be more than habitable compared to the far east. And in a way, easier than Taiwan once it's secured. Siberia on the other hand just needs more East Asians there than they already have. It's honestly not even on the radar.
>>523951726>tf>tpYep, it's NATO cope time.
>>523951726Why wouldnt they? Its not like Russia can afford to fight Ukraine and another front at the same time at this point.
>>523951726Why would mighty NATO give this all up to Chinese? Are you going to just watch as China turns itself into sole and unopposed world's hegemon in an instant?
>>523954054So Russia is still winning?
>>523951726Obvious. I predicted they would do this years ago. Russia currently occupies multiple disputed territories China views as theirs historically. Ukraine proved to China that Russia is weak and free for the taking.
>>523954338If they weren't, you wouldn't have to hope and pray that their closest ally turns on them.
>>523952370>Australia is a stable country with F-35 and plenty of alliesRussia has nukes tho, you cant spin this
>>523951726I mean they have 1.4 billion people. Lebensraum and all that.
>>523954277sure they are even more incompetent than you are but with better manpower and economyits enough for you but not enough for nato
Chinks will be reminded they have never won a war against whites soon
>>523954277You're not part of NATO so there's no obligation to defend you. China wasting resources maintaining an occupation force and fighting insurgency in Russia works in NATO's favor. For all we know the Ukraine color revolution may have been CIA bait to lure Russia into a trap to tempt China to take out Russia for us.
>>523954760Wasting? Why take region to waste resources? They are surely going to dominate the economy. Not looking good, westbros...
>>523954886you seem unfamiliar with Chinese history
>>523951726China is doing what it must to ensure this scenario doesn't happen. Russia collapsing is a cataclysmic event for China. There is no mitigating thousands of KM of shared border and the crisis that would entail if their neighbor up north collapses. It's why China is discretely sponsoring Russia's Ukraine war and how Russia is winning against the NATO backed Ukraine.
>>523954886kek. China will never dominate anything. They can't even take a tiny island right next to them. They gave it their best shot and put everything they had into the effort but it's all starting to slow and inevitably collapse. Their one and only shot at appearing like a world power is going after their weakest neighbor, Russia. Taking Taiwan would be opposed by the world and China saw what NATO did in Ukraine. Better to go after a soft target like Russia and claim it as a massive military victory over a former world power.I am truly sorry your stupid leaders and corrupt generals who sold all of your military equipment for money put you into this situation. I don't really want to see Russia destroyed. But you sit next to a much larger nation who very badly wants to be perceived as a global power and taking you out would be a lot easier and a bigger propaganda victory than going after Taiwan.
>>523955284You're an idiot lad. Stop yapping about things you know nothing about
>>523955274>There is no mitigating thousands of KM of shared border and the crisis that would entailThere are 8 Chinese for every 1 Russian, and Russia is killing off its fighting aged men. China would relish the opportunity for vast swathes of resource-rich land with women available for its incel problem at the cost of a small amount of problem men it can openly exterminate to the applause of its population. Migration is only a problem for low population high empathy societies. High population low empathy societies with xenophobia don't have to worry about it at all. Free clay.
They are deathly afraid of our great alliance, comrades.
>>523955437Wait and see that I was right. Been studying this for quite a while. China and Russia are already at odds over the disputed border regions. China's own experts say they only have another 5 years until 2030 to make their move before population collapse weakens them too much. They have to take territory and project power beyond their own borders to match the US's global reach. If they go after Taiwan they will invoke the opposition of the entire world. If they go after Russia they reclaim their stolen land from Russia and no one will intervene to help Russia after the Ukraine war. Showing weakness in front of China was not a good move for Russia.
>c-china will s-save usNafotrannie copes are getting desperate
>>523955992so far NATO only grew since russians started doing their magic
>>523951796> A smarter strategy is to act softly: invest, sign long-term contracts, support local forces friendly to China"Pretty sure CCP is doing this already in addition to cheap oil from Russia. Putin will gain one province just to sell out his country to the chinks so he can save face
>>523951726If Russia collapses - China is toast.Do as US says or be gone from the face of this planet.China is a minor hindrance to globe domination.Plus, US will still need justification for it's military and weapon complex to exist. China might as well become the next "BIG BAD".
>>523956100The reason noone belives your Russia-related predictions is simple: they never came true. We've seen this BS already with climate change.
>>523951796>>523951825To the idiots out there this is also China’s plan for the US. To allow an “independent” West Coast staffed by Chinese experts but also Indian and Jewish stakeholders who will be so attached to keeping their West Coast Kingdom together they’ll take the golden slave chains offered by China. Even if the broader US retains military control the supply chains for military equipment will all come from China
>>523955274China is just sinking its hooks into Siberia to make sure it secures those resources for its strategic supply chain no matter what happens with Russia.
>>523954277this is really weird cope. i don't feel sorry for Russians at all desu
>>523951726>be rus>give up rich siberian oil fields for bombed out irradiated chernobyl clay>meanwhile in china they plot your demise, planning to stab you in the back while you go off to sleep and feast on your corpse like vultureswould be a walk in the park compared to the jap-russian war for the orientsprospect status: grim
>>523951726Seizure? Russia would probably sell it for like 50 yuans kek
>>523954277>NATO WILL SAVE USHow do Russians even cope with themselves?
Xi should take Mongolia and Central Asia right now, set them up as "protectorate" against "Russian aggression"
>>523951796>History has already taught China bitter lessons. A forcible seizure is impossible - it would lead to international isolation, as in the case of Crimea. A smarter strategy is to act softly: invest, sign long-term contracts, support local forces friendly to China".They're already doing that, also in central Asia, chinks need to be dealt this ASAP
>>523955784>Mogged by an AsianFirst Russia loses to Japan now its losing to China.Grim
It's easy to forget the China Russia relationship is a comparable power gap with the US and UK, but without the cultural and ethnic similarities. Not impossible to see Russia align with the US over them eventually in the long run. It will not happen under Putin though or anyone who intends to directly follow in his example. He is not willing to accept Russia's permanent loss of empire and thus puts his sights on US hegemony instead of the much greater Eastern threat.
>>523955702>>523956773China is already getting all of those resources with Russia existing as a single state. It would be far more costly to administrate the region effectively while maintaing the resource flow than just buying it to begin with. This isn't the 18th century anymore.
>>523952084australia fertile in what, uranium? you can barely grow anything in that shithole
>>523954277I'm on team Russia for this one. The Blue Eyed Devils need to give the chinks another Century of Humiliation if they dare to get uppity.
This would be a good opportunity to split China up into 12 different countries, each forever at war with each other.
>>523951726Cope harder, faggot.They would never do that, and you know it.Ukrainian pigs are trying to sow the dispute between brotherly countries and it's fucking pathetic.You are losing and losing hard. It's time to accept that fact
>>523951726What part of 'Russia will burn the entire world before it allows itself to cease to exist' is so fucking hard for you retards to understand?I'm an Irish Canadian and even I know which about Russian history since Ivan the Terrible to know to take that threat seriously. Honestly, I hope you cunts keep it up, escalate. The Purifying Fire of Pogroms, an actual Holocaust if you will, will soon be the only hope that's left to humanity.
>>523954277i'm no russia lover, but i'd fight in a foreign division on russia's side against the chinks easy; I suspect lots of westerners would. As long as I could service in some western soldiers division and not get sent in to the meatgrinder with no afterthought like most russkies would, I would be thrilled to BTFO the bugmen.
>>523959699What the Chinese don't want is for Russia to break up and the US to scoop up Siberia like they did Alaska.
>>523951726>chinks will just take Siberia and give up on Taiwan Xi’s claim to his authoritarian rule is and was based on the idea he’s the man to get Taiwan reunification done. The issue is considered that important there. Siberian’s aren’t considered Chinese. Island chinks are.
>>523959699Yes that’s the point of the article
>>523960983You should join us in our fight against khohols, like this samurai did.It is more important and victory guarantees Russian prosperity
>>523955817The bong is right. You are retarded and should stop when you’re miles behind.
>>523951726please do it china please do it.
China would do more with it the perma fucked russia
>>523952370The irony being that a strategic consensus exists that Russia cannot be allowed to collapse. Its a schrodingers pariah. It must be defeated and reinforced simultaneously. The global balance of power is too fragile to allow its dissolution or collapse. Xi knows this and is even less excited about arms packages to Moscow than he is to Taipei.
>>523961676The truth is - Russia CANNOT be defeated and western world should just accept that zelensky regime has to go
>>523951726The prospect of a China with limitless resources gets me hard, Imagine how cheap things will be, also no gayshit with China as the world leader
>523951726>memeflag>can't even be bothered to translate page>/k/ope fanfiction where cohencidentally 2 of jewmericas biggest enemies fightamazing smell of herbs and garlic here
>>523959290What the fuck they can't just come in and offer mutually beneficial business deals, that's a threat to western democracies and needless to say very antisemitic.
>>523961800I am familiar with this perspective.
>>523951726>Russia will collapseI guess 2 more weeks?
>>523951726cia slop taishit memflag
>>523960391Yeah Russian has NUKES. NUKES are scary! Scary scary NUKESBe afraid and capitulate! MUH NUKES
>>523952084China would ironically save white Aussies from being completely replaced by jeets and Muslims.
>>523962922yeah okay sure
>>523951726Based allies against Globohomo
>>523962824They also have bioweapons.Not least of all the shit they collected from the Ukraine at the beginning of the smo.You would know that if you weren't a brown piece of shit. You have to go back poo.If the power goes out we'll be burning you like the smelly frozen tinder this country will turn you into overnight. You have to go back.
>>523951726China should at least take back territory which historically belonged to China (Vladivostok and surrounding regions)
>>523961676The Russian has become the Turk.