Socialists now claim a family of four making less than 140k per year is poor!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJyDoOzizAM https://www.yesigiveafig.com/p/part-1-my-life-is-a-lie
>>523954170It would be in the big hustle bustle cities they love to live in.
>>523954170Housing and food are the only numbers here that kind of make sense. Healthcare only does if you don't have employer-provided insurance which most people do.
>>523954245140k is the poverty line within a 4-hour drive from any major metropolisit is's socialists saying thisthis is anyone who is being honest with what a healthy, stable family unity requires to exist beyond serfdom. this isn't saying that there shouldn't be a robust replaceable underclass of serfs and havestable peasants, but pretending sub-140 isn't poverty is boomer-tier denial because "fuck you, i don't care"
>>523954572isnt*
>>523954170>nepo babies are now taxing the lower class for their socialist gibs me dati hate socialism so much it's unreal dudes, seriously, fuck all socialism.
>>523954170That would be poor here in Colorado kek. Wife and I make 200k and that’s just two incomes of 100k which isn’t much these days.
>>523954572I make about $145k and I don't feel poor but I definitely don't feel loaded, and I really don't see how people who make less are getting by.
>>523954637>nepo babies are now taxing the lower class for their socialist gibs me datWhat do you mean
>>523954170I have a family of 4, I make good money, and we eat extravagantly and spend excessive amounts of food on "luxury" meals like steaks and salmon etc, and we spend maybe $800 a month. We never eat out though. $13k on foo just means they're lazy and horrible parents and feed their kids fast food and SyscoSlop for every meal
>>523954654You need to go on Financial Audit immediately, you need a good screaming at from Caleb.
>>523954170>$23k/year for housing How? My rent is 1k for a 2 bedroom. If I was willing to get a roommate it would be $500. >Transportation and food costs the same Do you drive a Hummer and eat steak? How out of touch are these numbers?
>>523954743Sorry man I have sex, I don’t sit around having parasocial relationships with Jew podcasters.
>>523954245>It would be in the big hustle bustle cities they love to live in.The only thing cheaper in the country is housing retard, everything else is just as expensive if not more as in the case of food.
>>523954572I make $60k, about $48k maybe after taxes and I’ll probably be retired within the decade. I live in a mostly White gated community in one of the of the most expensive parts of my state. Imagine paying three times more than someone like me to live near a ghetto, lol
>>523954170> $32k for childcareEvery time I see stuff like this, I am reminded of how badly the system has been fucked up in the last 50 years. If the mother is staying home, there are no child care costs. But the mother can't stay home, because the system got broken, possibly intentionally.
>>523954654>>523954694You have to be trolling. I make $60k and my wife makes $60k and we live incredibly comfortably.
>>523954799This... "wife".... of yours.... what's the name listed on her original birth certificate?
>>523954837I bet you live in a ghetto shithole in the south
My family of seven, wife and five kids live on 15k very comfortably, but we own our home and don't have to pay rent. We also don't eat out, we cook. We eat raw veggies and meat and such instead of buying boxed stuff too. It can work but you have to WANT to have a family more than you want money.
>>523954719>meals like steaks and salmon etc, and we spend maybe $800 a month.You're not eating steaks and Salmon for $800 a month
Get rid of all the freeloading foreigners and niggers, we'd be able to afford UBI for humans.
>>523954637socialists want to tax the rich, whether or not you think that's a good idea, it's the liberal ghouls that tax the poor
How about you just worry about getting a job first Timmy.
Is that a stealth 1488 I see
>>523954866Deeznutstein
>>523954707How are you this unaware?Boomers are dying, literally they are at the age where they just die on any given day.Generation X is already feeling the burden of not being as rich as their parents and are already pulling back on the nepo baby funding.So milennial and zoomer nepo babies are pissing and shitting themselves basically since 2019 because they are officially reaching levels of >wait what do you mean we have to work?not even shitting you, go to any college or university and the sheer amount of females who realize life isn't going to be easy street is astounding.Everything they have ever been told is a lie.So they are pushing socialism to the utmost extreme, they want to tax you to pay for their lives and unironically they live better than you do.All taxes have to be halted period.
>>523954963First name.
>>523954972I was just confused by the nepo baby party but I see what you mean now, rich kids
>>523954837Do you own or rent (in a mostly White/safe area)? Do you have kids (we have three)? Do you live in Bumfuck? I could move to the hood and live large but I choose to send my kids to private school.
>>523955006Inyumouf, she’s from a small village in Israel but she’s cool
>>523954890Went to Publix today. They have ribeye for $12.99/lb and some nice looking chuck roasts for $7.99/lb.
>>523954719Food absolutely is that expensive for two adults and two kids unless you've gone the destitute route of nothing but rice beans chicken and broccoli and/or the equivalent.
>>523954170That may be true for goycattle breeders who can't budget. Comfy af being a single minimalist. My living expenses are like 1/3 of that at most, probably less
>>523955080I'm onto you.
>>523955050yeah nepotism, yuppies, trust fund, rich kids.that dude you saw in highschool that doesn't work a job, but had a 30k dollar dodge charger.yep those days are over.I know a kid from a rich family who had to get a trade job unironically, another guy who is a manager at a fucking walmart and we are talking multi million dollar families.
>>523954814>boomer trash with no self awareness proves my pointlol
>>523955237What you think my wife inyomouf deeznutstein isn’t real? That’s anti semitic anon. Just sent your posts to Pam Bondi, enjoy prison.
>>523954890Not every meal dipshit but we have salmon once a week and some kind of steak / roast / stew a couple times a week.The rest of our meals are chicken / pork / hamburger, always a good green veggie side and some kind of bread / rice / potato.New York steaks are $22/lb at Costco. 2lbs is plenty for a meal for our family (small kids). Salmon is like $15/lb, I usually get 1.5lb for a meal. Do those once a week each and that's $266/month which leaves gobs of money for roasts, chicken, pork, hamburger, etc.We eat like kings for like $800 a month and this retarded article is claiming that $1160/month is bare minimum poverty level.If you can't feed your family really well for $800/month you're lazy, retarded or both.
>>523954882>>523955058I live in a rural area, I don't even know my neighbors
You can expect the homeless population to grow rapidly in the coming years. Inflation & money printing is killing the middle & lower income folks & there is no relief coming.
>>523956552>we actually eat super luxuriously but when you break it down we’re just eating the cheap cuts from Costco and twice a week at bestYou lost faggot
>>523954170Everything on that list is a choice. Everything. These faggots so much as admit that when they demonstrably exclude taxes from their "total."
I make 45k before taxes. Single income family of 4. Own everything I have and no debt. If I made 140k, I would be rich.
>>523954499If you get sick once it’s like $1000s copays but you retards are all Jews we all know nothing about is affordable anymore
>>523957578Sorry rabbi shekelstein we will go back to doordashing Panda Express for $90 a night instead of sitting down to fresh bread, pot roast and grilled cauliflower for 1/3 the price please forgive us
i bought my son a gaming computer and my electricity bill jumped 40 dollars
>>523954814>well your point doesn’t apply to me because I bought my house 20+ years ago, so that doesn’t disprove your point but I guess you’re fucked mitt me so haha fuck you I got mineBoomers consistently default to this line of thinking it’s almost impossible to believe
>>523954887>>523954837If you bought your home before 2019 you literally have nothing to add.
>>523954972Yeah but also there are no jobs for white men
>>523954572>pretending sub-140 isn't poverty is boomer-tier denialtendies are waiting for you honey
>>523954170Incidentally—or perhaps not— I reckon that’s about what it costs for a “majority white experience” per year. > “IT’S JUST BECAUSE YOU AREN’T HOMESTEADING CHUD! HOME DEPOT NATIONALISM WILL SAVE THE WHITE RACE! WE ARE ALL AMISH AT OUR CORE!!”
>>523957862>If you get sick once it’s like $1000s copays Do you get sick every month?
>>523958220After age 35 shit happens
>>523954499Is everyone a non-showering non-toothbrushing candy eating retard? I eat moderately healthy and do the minimum amount of exercise and can count on one hand how many times I see a doctor in a decade. Why the fuck do people need to constantly pay for muh healthcare?
>>523954572> 140k is the poverty line within a 4-hour drive from any major metropolisTry $700k. I make a little under $800k in Jackson, MS and I’m poor AF. I literally eat nothing but ramen noodles and I still can barely afford my electric bill
>>523954812Not after airbnb and covid my anon.
>>523956552We totally believe you.
>>523954170Sounds right. I make $120K/year in Los Angeles and I feel poor because I don’t use consumer debt to finance my lifestyle (like most do) and I also max-out my IRA and 401(k). You either need to be rich or be willing to live like a nigger/wetback to have a family here.
>>523958155>>523957029This Anglo-Dutch bunker mentality needs to stop or the white race will die
>>523958336A reasonably healthy person in their 40s shouldn't be in the hospital every month. Unless you have some sort of genetic disease you don't start needing that level of care until well past retirement.
>>523954972This anon has a lot of money. No one without a lot money thinks like this. Nobody minds working. People, of any generation, mind working for a world they have no stake in.
>>523954170why are white people so exceptionally bad with money? us po' people have been raising kids with a fraction of that estimate, for centuries.
>>523958498"health care" is basically another socialist scamthey love people being dependend on the state instead of demanding people to get and stay healthythats why the left hates RFKthey dont want people being healthythey want them sick and constantly begging for morethey are psychopathic monsters
>>523958498You’re the exact sort of asshole who wouldn’t take your kid to urgent care because it’s owning the libz by personally taking the burden of a failed system rather than calling for it to be fixed
>>523954170>33k childcare>15k food>15k transportation>22k otherWhat in the uber app using, non-cooking, therapy and life coach buying, netflix subscribing, hybrid driving, city-dweller fuck is this bullshit?
>>523959164https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfRze0uzKfM
>>523959164Just reminder that anyone disputing cost of living is literally Larry fink supporter democrat AEI faggots
>>523959094We're talking about the average person. The average person isn't taking their entire family to urgent care every Thursday. I'm not even saying you can't criticize the system. I think you would have a hard time finding a person who thinks the current US healthcare system has any positives at this point. Just don't lie. You can't fix a problem if you lie about what the problem is.
Having money is communism or something
>>523959461Families pay $800/mo premiums, that alone is 9600. Ehat are you even complaining about? Why are you pearl clutching for Wall Street Jews.
>>523957862My company gives me half my deductible in HSA contributions. It's like $1k (tax free) out of pocket if I actually use it the whole deductible.
>>52395950270% of wealth since 2008 is fake socialism for the rich from money printing the burden of which through the cantillion effect falls on the lower and middle classes.Having money is in fact literally communism now you economically and politically illiterate retard
>>523959558>Families pay $800/mo premiumsWhich families?
>>523959632So by having a job as a white man at a corporation you’re already backstabbing all the white guys who do my have careers already since were now shut out
>>523955149I've parred my costs down to 28k a year.Alone.No dating.No upgrades.Nothing extra.I eat french toast with instant coffee twice a day, that's it.I have a cat.I keep the breaker to the dishwasher and the stove off until I need to use them.I was making 165k/yr at a healthcare company, until I realized the entire system was designed to creating unnecessary billings for insurance companies, and walked-away because I kept seeing crazy homeless people screaming outside, and realized that I was working for the predatory system that drove them out to die in the street.It doesn't matter what the exact number is. What matters is it's rising really fast, and it will cull those of us that are moral. It will make the nation stronger. Will you starve, or will you cannibalize your community? The rich want to force us into a civil war with each other. They want us fighting each other, while they pull up the ladder. Instead of complaining about some goy making 140k, push the line up to 30m. They want people making 60k fighting people who make 140k, or ideally people making 80k fighting people who make 81k. They want this so we aren't focused on the people making multiples of millions, while the rest of us make whatever we can pick up off the ground around them.
>>523954719800 a month on food, you’re delusional
>>523959164>33k childcareprivate schools to stay away from the public school jungles>15k foodthats only $300/month for each person which is cheap>15k transportationwhat is insurance/gas/car payments and thats only $600/month for the two adults which is also very low>22k otherother bills like water/electricity/etc
>>523954499what are you even talking about retard $800/month health insurance for four people is cheap as shit
>>523954170> OTHER ESSENTIAL> muh streaming services> muh smartphome > muh smartphome subscription > muh DoorDash> muh soi lattes> muh Disney World vacations
>>523958155>>523954694you faggots live beyond your means. Zoomshits don't know how to save or spend wisely and refuse to be smart.
>>523959923>what are you even talking about retardMaybe you would know what I was talking about if you read the words that I wrote. That's how this whole forum thing works.
>>523959937what are electricity, water, internet, and cell phone bills dumbass
>>523959164If you're a lawyer your work day is 12 hours a day. You have to read briefs, file motions, go to court, research case law, meet with clients, meet with firm partners etc.These are the people making 100k+ and thats why they get paid so much because they do a ton of work and dont have time to be visiting 3 different supermarkets to hunt for bargains or prep their own meal for even 1 hour. No offense but if your work is in demand then you're literally being paid to not do other things which is why you're paid so much money....so you can afford to have others do that stuff. The point of the report is to show how much inflation has ate into standards of living. An underpaid lawyer has it worse than a minimum wage worker who does have the time to do all those cost saving things people on here mention. Chuds on here don't realize time has value
>>523960024reread my post dumbass $800/month for 4 people is cheap as shit for health insurance
>>523960133Cool. What do you want me to do with that information?
>>523960188i see im responding to a complete retard
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>>523959558>Families pay $800/mo premiums, that alone is 9600.A sucker is born every minute. (Or something)
>>523954936Problem is management. You need industry insiders To participate in management of government interests, such as healthcare where you have everyone making machines that are highly specialized, measuring every chemical level Exerted by the bloodstream for any number of maladies, Bone tissues, Reconstructing faces flawlessly When they were shattered by a horse kicking them in the head. These people won’t take on these highly stressful jobs for nickels and dimes. Furthermore, the city coffers depend on the success of their innate industries. If said industries, die, something has to replace it, The cities will never not be meritocracy, therefore.These industries depend on people willing to take on a position with extreme culpability, such as Boeing’s CEO, being the head of one of only two commercial aerospace companies, providing commercial airliners. Their success is Viewed with priority by the federal government on a national scale As it also symbolizes parity with Europe technologically. The US government will do whatever is necessary both in management and in support to make certain that Boeing still exists.It is an example of an indispensable industry on a national scale rather than a city scale
>>523954170>Socialists now claim
>>523954972You know that the socialists also get taxed right? Yoy know that they’re completely okay with that if it means things like universal healthcare, cheap public transit, and affordable utilities…right? The thing is they’re thinking with a 1st world wage that’s easy to come by in the civilized parts of the nation even at entry level, while you’re still voting for people against raising wages for fear of it making things more expensive, which would not happen under consumer protection laws you also incidentally or unintentionally vote against. You also must not realize the tax impact for 99% of people would be negligible, and those who would notice it have disproportionately more than enough to where it wouldn’t make a difference and, even if it did, the wellbeing of the general population is more important than their personal power anyways and they can go cry about it or get their assets seized by the government for noncompliance. The ultra rich are not going to leave by getting taxed; they’ve got nowhere to go lmfao.
>>523960405Europeans pay equivalent or more, And they have waiting lists, And potentially lasting symptoms of late treated maladies. In Europe people don’t look to move up, They look for satisfaction and the things they do. American houses are roughly twice the size of their European counterparts, a lawn to smoke meat is luxury, apartments are very common, and to start “shop projects” with wood and powerdrills is to be viewed as a menace by all your neighbors, and get the equivalent of an HOA on steroids on your hide.You are to live to enjoy what you do if you are to match for Europe. If not, you should stay in America because you’re super greedy by European standards.“ Just want more life is greedy?”Yes, if it’s the main thesis of thought.“ To live for passion and creativity is a life well spent” Should be your motto.
>>523960967Edit “ To just want more in life”
>>523960773>even if it did, the wellbeing of the general population is more important than their personal power anyways and they can go cry about it or get their assets seized by the government for noncompliance.What is your address? It's cool if I crash at your place right?
>>523959678If you’re asking this you’re not serious.
>>523961118No answer the question. Which families? Ok I'll answer for you. The families who are paying out of pocket. Or in other words, the ones who don't have employer-provided health insurance. Or in other words, EXACTLY WHAT I SAID IN MY FIRST POST YOU STUPID ILLITERATE ADHD NIGGER.
>>523960773>or get their assets seized by the government for noncomplianceWhy are statists like this?
>>523961243You have no fucking idea what you're talking about. Premiums for a family of five (NOT including what the employer is paying OR deductible for actually using the insurance) can easily reach $800/month. >t. Father of three
>>523961842Do you want a fucking medal or something?
>>523961243Who in the fuck gets health care “provided for” by employers anymore? White men aren’t even being hired full time in corporate America anymore
>>523961911What Jewish shit is this schoolyard feminine bullying tactic? He called you out for being retarded now fuck off already
>>523961966Are you actually allergic to reading the thread? You are not arguing with me. You are arguing with a phantom person who does not exist.
>>523962016This is like drunken pilpul or something
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>>523961911No, I want to tell you that you don't know shit about fuck, you lying kike.
>>523954170If Childcare costs so much why dont these whores open their own childcare places? They have co-ops for everything else why not childcare?
140k today is the equivalent of 70k pre-covid. That is not great at all for a family of 4 unless you live out in the country.
>>523962147Because white people are stingy and think helping other white people is socialism.
>>523962269True but with x5 housing costs instead of x2 and x3.5 healthcare.
>>523962146What are you a father of three of? A father of three cats? Anime figurines?
>>523957732>>523954887You guys are missing the point. There exists a sweet spot that maximizes gibs at 35-45k depending on state. After that you dont end up with a single extra cent until you are at 140k. Then if you own everything and can further reduce your costs with a stay at home mom the math works fine. But you are fully trapped and can never get above that.
>>523954170Nobody spends 10k on health care out of pocket
Girl math. A woman can squander $140,000 a year easily and still run up massive credit card debt. Don’t ask me how I know.
>>523963137those must be the yearly insurance costs for a family of four
>>523962147Thats quite literally illegal.>>523962428Yep shit has gotten WAY worse since COVID
>>523963137Youre joking right? 2016 family of four average rate for anything with a deductible below 5k was 1200 a month. Prices are way up since then.
>>523954890Wild caught salmon 2lb packages are 12.50/lb at sams clubIf I eat 1lb of salmon everyday in my household that is less than 400 dollars, if I add rice, and some veggies my family of 3 is eating 1lb of salmon everyday with 1lb of rice everyday (rice is ~1.00/lb) and some veggies or fruit lets go with broccoli @ 1.53/lb so we get another 1lb per day of that and then lets say 1lb a day of ORANGES for 1.01/lb387.50 (31lbs of salmon)31.00 (31lbs of rice)47.43 (31lbs of broccoli) 31.31 (31lbs of oranges)497.24 for 31 days of "LUXURIOUS" SALMON EATINGSYou spending 300 more dollars on seasoning and cooking oil? What if I only serve the family 15lbs of salmon and instead 30 additional pounds of ground beef at equal cost?? or replace salmon 15 days with 15 days of NY strip at the same cost locally or even cheaper sirloin? I still sit at >500/mth eating retarded portions in this hypothetical
>>523963558youre not eating only one meal per daywhat stupid calculation is that?are you literally retarded?have you ever left your basement
>>523957319Debt vs GDP "growth" since 2017 what a (((cOiNdEnCe) )))National debt: From about $20 T $38 T+From about $19.6 T ~$30.6 TShows that while the economy (GDP) has grown significantly, debt has grown even faster in absolute dollar terms over the same period. Do we understand what this is telling us?printing money & buying your own debt changes the game but still the govt is essentially spending $10M to make $1MThis kind of financial structure allows the wealthy to grow their wealth as the act of printing money simply grows the assets value as the value of the dollars diminishesWhen a central bank encounters a combination of 1) really high sovereign debt-to-GDP & 2) significant inflation from a commodity capex undersupply cycle, it's basically checkmate.Checkmate in this context means they print into an inflation cycle, rather than tighten into it. & surprise, surprise, we are there NOW, but try not to spread the word because we are in the golden age
>>523954694It’s not hard you just probably have too nice of a house
>>523963417>Thats quite literally illegal.What law does it break? When I was a kid, there was a woman on the block running a childcare thing for the neighborhood out of her house.
>>523964409They all have no choice but to print new dollars but this of course will be so far the mother of QE or new dollar creation ever.The Federal Government took in $404 billion in October & spent $689 billion. Meaning Gov't overspend by 71%‼, "In the QE we trust"Washington pocketed $404 billion in October & then torched $689 billion like math is just a polite suggestion. Don’t try this stunt yourself unless you, too, can print money when things go sideways.https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/static-data/published-reports/mts/MonthlyTreasuryStatement_202510.pdf
>>523966396*FED SAYS IT WILL BUY $40 BILLION OF TREASURY BILLS NEXT 30 DAYSWhat are we pretending not to know with this folks. This is the start of it & will be very much ramped up once Powell is gone.The govt has been injecting about $135 billion since Sept 16 of 2025 with overnight repo to banks.Credit expansion + M2 moving higher = inflationRemember that inflation from what is about to occur with QE will take 12 to 18 months to begin to see the pricing effects go higher. Next will be ZIRP which will shift stocks from profit margin to simply only caring about revenue growth. Heavy metals, we could see a 40:1 ration in the coming year & it will surprise many to see something like $9K gold & $225 silver without being a ratio of 40:1The printing of new dollars will be absolutely wild
>>523954170Why was childcare allowed to become so expensive? Also, why don't the schools provide extended childcare?
>>523967073jews?
>>523967020TRUMP: CHANGES ARE COMING TO THE FEDWe Know$38.3 trillion debt, $2 trilion deficit, "3% inflation."Hassett:There is more fiscal room to do stimulative things nowThe old programs are coming back ZIRP, QE, along with what is already taking place with overnight repos, discount window, SOMA, treasury buybacks, $25.4 trillion in T-bills issued out this year alone & likely a few new programs coming
>>523967923The US govt has shifted to financing itself almost entirely through short term T-Bills that need to be refinanced every few months, rather than locking in longer term debtOver the last 12 months, they've issued a record ‼$25.4 trillion in T-Bills‼ which now represent about 70% of all Treasury issuance, up dramatically from 41.8%‼ back in November 2015.This means the government has chosen the financial equivalent of an adjustable rate mortgage, where your payment changes based on market conditionsThe Fed is now in a cutting cycle heading into December 2026, which initially sounds good for the govt's borrowing costs, but it actually exposes a dangerous vulnerability in this financing strategyAs the Fed cuts rates over the coming months and into 2026, short-term rates will fall, which means the govt's refinancing costs drop in the near termThis provides temporary relief & makes the T-Bill strategy look smart for a brief windowBut here’s the catch: if the Fed cuts rates too quickly, or if the economy slows down more than expected, it might have to slash rates even further. That can stir up worries that the economy is weakening too much, & those worries can eventually bring inflation back.If inflation flares up again, the Fed may have to turn around & raise rates sharply. That would be a big problem, because the govt would need to refinance huge amounts of short-term debt at those higher rates.Since it’s relying so heavily on short-term borrowing, the govt doesn’t have much protection. It has to keep rolling over its debt at whatever interest rate the market is charging at that moment, good or bad.Get Ready For It, Heavy Metals Will Be Impressive So Say The Very Least Of What Is More & More Likely To Occur in 2026 & What The US Truly Ends Up Dealing W/In 2027.
>>523954170transportation is a literal killer, on top of most families being one car crash away from total insecurity, and public transportation in the u.s. being absolute shit in most places
