Why did it fail?
Same an every empire, its gowing because its consuming more than it produces, expansion eases that...now it must perpetually expand or collapse.This is what the EU is doing right now...they *must* expand or the *must* collapse.
They put a McDonald's in Moscow.The Soviet Union lasted about another year before it collapsed.
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>>523962966they got jew'ed. how does communism run out of money? why would they even need it in the first place? it's because they got jew'ed.
>>523963228the ussr was jewish
>>523963226That's actually incorrect in this one instance.The CIA claims it was caught totally off guard by the collapse of the USSR.The US government at the time was continuing with its usual Cold War fearmongering.One thing I definitely recall about that time is that they were not telling us, at least not in the US, that the USSR and the US were no longer on opposite sides of this conflict.
>>523962966Stalin>create paranoid political culture that renders reform entirely impossible as any political decision is scrutinized and interpreted as a threat by the politburo>shifts the economy full-send into heavy industry, to the point at which it is cultishly devoted to getting MOAR STEEL because you can't build more factories with toasters. As it turns out, you can't toast bread with steel beams either and this bit them in the ass later on.>absolutely retarded foreign policy, actually unironically believed that Britain was going to invade Crimea during WW2 and thought they were more of a threat than the explicitly hostile power on his border until Barbarossa popped, he essentially lucked out because FDR was somehow more retarded than him, still lost an entire generation in the war though>establishes the dogma that the US will always be inexorably hostile to the USSR, not saying the US didn't do the same, but there were instances of thawing which could have benefited both nations that were handicapped by this belief>along with that dogma, establishes the belief that the USSR must be a peer military to the US, something which was reasonable prior to the USSR getting ICBMs, but which became ridiculously wasteful later onIf not for his split from the right socialists as a result of collectivization, he likely would have laid down a more sustainable framework. It's probably not fair to fully blame Stalin though. Obviously the Afghan War, the 70's oil shocks, the major nationalist movements in the USSR, the lack of computerization, et cetera are also factors; but I always found it kinda funny that USSR fanboys love Stalin so much when you can easily track alot of the egregious flaws of their system straight to him.
>>523962966Too much assrape
The USSR was made up of many countries that were able to be subjugated as long as the economy was strong. After decades of stagnation, the color revolutions happened because people realized they were getting ruled by someone else with absolutely nothing to show for it.
>the Empire of Russiafailed>the Soviet Unionfailed>the Russian FederationfailingThe reason for failures is not the system, but their national character.
Russians.
>>523962966It didn't fail, it was defeated. Key difference
>>523962966jews
>>523962966Because they lied about the (((holocaust)))
>>523966557This.
>>523966557Many such cases
Absence of correct feedback mechanism to authorities
>>523962966Because communism is retarded.It forments profound social distrust due to the government using "secret police" tactics to repress dissent; everybody who isn't a party-member gets the same handouts, and is still expected to work to the best of their ability.Party members become an aristocracy unto themselves, and simply replicate the excesses of those they replaced, but often worse, because they lack that sense of time-honoured legitimacy, and can only respond with naked force.In the soviet union many pithy phrases emerged to describe their social situation.Like>PravdaA word that literally means "The truth", but came to be understood as "State Narrative" - from the Soviet Newspaper of the same name.And a phrase that translates to>I pretend to work, they pretend to pay meA civilization that loses all social trust will soon collapse.And collapse it did.Even without the external pressure, their whole project was doomed.The icing on the cake?All the worst African failed states are ones that aligned themselves with the Soviets.Socialist ideology in practice amounts to "That guy has more than me, so I should kill him and take his stuff".That's no foundation to build a civilization on.That's crab-bucket politics formalized.Socialists are the lowest form of human life.At least a nigger doesn't choose to be a nigger.
>>523962966Gorbachev sold out to jew but military found out and thus the 1992 house arrest. then Rotschild planted Yeltsin whose wife is part of Rotschild dynasty and he continue what Gorbachev started, luckily Putin was in the right place at the right time to see what was happening (balkanization of Russia) and stopped it from happening. kikes tried again with Navalniy but he failed so pathetically that he poisoned himself trying to frame Russia all to no avail, no one gave a shit
>>523964520kind of like what EU is going thru right now, except EU is speed-running USSR
>>523965822This
>>523962966Russians are retards and can't rule themself. After 1000 years the actual first Russian to rule them instantly crashed their shithole.
>>523967821Off by one...
>>523963040>>523967750>anti EU third world monkeyswhy dont you care about your own shitholes
>>523967719Must be a hard life being such a shit retard. Putin was installed by Yeltsin so Putin is the same puppet.
>>523962966Because they wasted a shitload of money doing the same BS nation building that the US did. Because planned economies incentivize extreme corruption which destroyed the economy. Because the government was run by geriatrics who refused to correct bad directions the country was going until it was too late.
>>523962966Jews
The soviet economic numbers cannot be trusted, for obvious reasons. Because of this, researchers typically rely on the work of a Latvian economist called Khanin, who had more accurate assessments. Khanin said something quite interesting. He said the soviet union was facing a crisis for quite a different reason. Not economics, but demographics. Through war, starvation, and communistic principles, the Soviets had killed, suppressed, or emigrated anyone with a brain from the country.
>>523963040Countries can leave EU and have done so it's no empire.
>>523962966Vodka brain damage'll do that
>>523969121Hello.We left the EU not long ago, and the member states have fined and sanctioned us in an attempt to "prove" that we could never make it alone.The EU is just too weak to coerce effectively.Not that it wouldn't if it could.Every single MEP should be garrotted and made into cat food.
>>523968880Soviets were the first to give women full working rights since the famines, WWI and especially WWII blew such a hard hole in their demographics then the 200 million+ abortions in the union.They wanted workers NOW instead in investing in the next generations so it fucked them up long term.We have the same too but we import subhumans which makes it even worse.
>>523969229Can you name like three of those sanctions or do you mix them up with the fact that leaving a treaty will also mean losing the benefits?
>>523968042>anti EU>If you dont postrate and swear fealty to me youre anti-semitic.Truly, a Talmudic culture, just as Ursula said.I know your own family better than you do.....I know (YOU) better than you do.....who am I?
>>523965822Underrated
>>523962966Put all its eggs in the petroleum basket then ran out of money.
>>523969229https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brexit_divorce_billUK paid as a part of renegotiating deals. Leaving without any deal was on the table, the UK chose not to do that.You're talking out of ignorance and the Brit is talking out of pure dishonesty. >>523969229You can frame it as some kind of mafia deal, but that's a deluded recollection of events. It was the UK that deemed they couldn't just move the country to another continent. It ignores this entire discussion that took place.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-deal_Brexit
>>523970010first one meant for >>523969404
>>523962966kike subversion
>>523969338I mean, in fairness, if you were the USSR immediately after WW1 then the Russian Civil War, losing an entire generation of men and still needing to industrialize rapidly, and then losing an entire generation of men AGAIN in WW2, I think the immediate need for warm bodies in factories is likely going to outweigh any sort of long term thought.
>>523962966Central planning inefficiencies.
>>523962966They made the state the surrogate for the bourgeois owner class which was supposed to achieve communism somehow. Their economy was measured in capital, they made investments and engaged in global markets in pursuit of capital just like everyone else. The only difference is it was managed by the state as opposed to individual bourgeois owners.It worked well to rapidly industrialize the country, but failed as a post industrial society. The bourgeois class produces the world's knowledge and innovations, the state can't keep up with that function. Innovation requires risk, and when individual bourgeois lose bets, they don't take the whole system down with them. When the state is taking those same losing bets in pursuit capital, the whole country collapses.
>>523970226That's not what caused the Lithuanians to trigger independence protocols.
>>523970365None of that explains why independence articles were triggered or respected.
>>523963226As if wasn't totally rotten by subhumans already.
>>523970523Why is that relevant? Republics voted to leave because the union was in shambles and seen as too weak to resist. The articles were respected because secession from the union was a legal process codified in constitutional instruments. Those instruments existed as a compromise because the red army couldn't completely occupy and annex those territories after losing them to Brest-Litovsk and civil war separatism in the 1920s. That means the USSR was always a fragile state. As soon as central governance was too weak to send in the troops, SSRs used existing legal mechanisms to bail.
>>523962966The economic model never worked well enough to run a world power.
>>523963645the real cold war ended with the detente period and nuclears arm agreement, then the deepstates agreed on splitting the world in two but the commies were too incompetent to mantain a functioning economy and the common eurocommies got fed up with the living standart disparirt and rebelled
>>523963645>the CIA claimsah yes, a very trustworthy and reputable source.
>>523962966Betrayed the Jews so they crushed it
>>523964520The central government gave way too much autonomy to its member states. Central Asia and the Caucasus were governed way too loosely and local separatism was allowed to fester there.
>>523964252no it was definitely stalin. "marxism-leninism" is a made up phrase to rationalize "socialism in one country"... but "socialism in one country" is not an economic theory. turns out nationalism is an obstacle to success when your goal is international proletarian revolution, even if your nationalism is for a super power that has a lot of land.
>>523968042>>523968540triggered cowardly hohols hiding out in germany. if you're real german you should be thanking Russia for allowing you to keep your country and your language, idiot
>>523962966Invasion of Afganistan, Chernobyl and that fuck up in Berlin.
>>523962966Mismanaging recourses and Russia feeding various subhumans for 100 years.
>>523962966Who says it fell? It never fell. What did magical homo Ronald McDonald Reagan do to make it fall? Nothing. The West played right into their hands and allowed their guard to be let down.The Fall of Communism - Robert Buchar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTF6FDAXSzIRussia is still as communist as it ever was. If that's confusing, people need to understand that communism is more than just an economic system - it is a self iterating plan to collapse the West in favour of Moscow/ Tel Aviv
>>523962966Oil export was 40% of Soviet Union's economy. When oil prices dropped, Soviet Union wasn't able to pay its debts and subsequently collapsed.
>>523972861Great X acct
>>523963411and that is why it failed
Why does every communist country fail?
>>523962966Retarded centrally planned economy, wasting money on military spending and useless wars like Afghanistan, nationalism and glasnost showing how corrupt the shithole really was
>>523962966I've heard it argued that it was actually second order consequences of Chernobyl.>>523973636Dude. China. It's not the choice of system, it's the implementation details.
>>523975660>Dude. China.What about it?
