Why can't the left stand for having a calm, open discussion of ideas?
>>523978515Read the calm collected books.
>>523978515Why can't you just accept people's sexual orientation?
there's no such thing as "the left" or "the right"This is basic, effortless, "us vs them" rhetoric the power structure employs to cause the plebs to fight among eachother
the fact that his wife is a psychopatic scumbag reveals a lot about smallface puncturedneck
>>523978515Hard pill to swallow but the left is constantly pushing towards the future.Some of the shit they come up with is wrong. Hopefully these bad ideas die and better ideas take their place.Conservatism isn't an ideology but more like I don't like change make it go away.
>>523978515Kirk's only mistake was thinking that we can negotiate with mentally trannies and bolsheviks who hate you for being white, neurotypical, happy, and successful.No mercy to our enemies, for they know none.
>>523978568Entering into a conversation with preconceptions and accusations simply underlines the problem here. Thank you for demonstrating its validity.
>>523978568Because you conduct yourself atrociously, and your movement willingly associated itself with Nambla until the late eighties.Also there's poo on your willies, and spunk in your bums.And that ain't right.To put it bluntly; you are not the future of any nation.You are a defect.Tread lightly, and you may not be destroyed.
>>523978645Misdirection and obfuscation by way of initiating a debate on definition of terms is a non-argument.
>>523978851You don't read our books nor listen to our speakers, you don't care about us, and we don't care about you
>>523978515>calm, open discussionIt's not. It's a gotcha, "own the libs" business. The guy didn't need to be shot, but the correct response to these on the "left" or "right" is to ignore their attention seeking games and go about your own life.
>>523978568dunno maybe go to saudi and ask them
>>523978677While the left utilizes the optics and rhetoric of pushing towards the future, the net results of leftist ideology are a regression back to instinctual hedonism, envy and violence. I agree that conservatism has also been too reactionary in its stance.
>>523978946Again, thank you for demonstrating your hysteria and bigotry.
>>523978515They know they cant beat us in the most fair of spaces: the marketplace of ideas. So thats why they are always chimping out and resorting to violence and revolutions.
>>523979121I'm the bigot? I accept your concession, fascist
>>523978957see>>523978899
>>523979086If you look at history everything good that has happened is due to liberal ideas.The only thing conservatives offer is no. Bad. Goes against God/law/nature etc.Society has an eternal tug of war between liberals and conservatives and over time it is clear liberal thinking is the winner.That's not to say conservatism has no place in society. The tug of war exists for a reason.
because there's no point talking to committed nazis and podcast grifters who argue in bad faith to make money off their audience and have zero interest in actually solving problems.i'm not concerned about the wellbeing of my enemies. i'm glad charlie kirk is dead and i hope more of them die.
>>523979142With every assumption and accusation hurled, you further highlight your own inability to engage in peaceful constructive dialogue.
>>523979142you're a fag
>>523979248>>523979257You offer no constructive dialogue, where is this dialogue you speak of?
>>523978515Both sides are shit. All that matters is who can out live the other.
>>523978899Its one of the spammers' favorites
>>523978515Because that pretty quickly reveals how insane, retarded and counterproductive many of their ideas are.
>>523979195>If you look at history everything good that has happened is due to liberal ideas.if true, then conversely everything potentially bad that was prevented is due to conservative ideas.
>>523978515
>>523979355he literally says exactly that in his post you fucking retard.your pretension at erudition is a thin veneer over your own inadequacy as an interlocutor. you're demanding more from other people than you yourself are able to give. people don't waste their time talking with you because you are a waste of time, as proven by the fact that you did not even read anon's entire post before responding.or, perhaps even more embarrassingly, you did.
>>523978879>and your movement willingly associated itself with Nambla until the late eighties.So they made concessions to you and you refused to accept the concessions, even fifty years later? Why are you surprised no one likes speaking with you?
>>523979355Well if you look at history they never really prevent anything. They just delay it.Again. Hard pill to swallow.Conservatives (of their time) would have been against everything from the revolutionary war to gay marriage.It all happened anyways.The relentless march of liberalism took it all.
>>523978515-ACK
>>523979446Bodied that freak
>>523979286You've only offered inflammatory and accusatory dialogue. So you've already taken the discussion into a confrontational stand-off wherein the other participant has reason to expect that you won't be intellectually honest. Now you question why the other party is not offering what you yourself have failed to facilitate. Do you see the problem here?
>>523978515>argue that you should carry a gun in public spaces for safety>get killed by a gun in a public spacesounds like he lost the debate
>>523979536I was responding to your rhetorical can of worms, but please go ahead and turn over a new leaf, I want to see you spark a discussion with honesty Show me the constructive dialogue
>>523979446>verbal abuseYou have disqualified yourself from being taken seriously. But at least you can show off how edgy you are online to your mother when she brings in your next meal.
>>523979580>say that deaths are necessary and worth it to preserve gun ownership>die from gunshotpottery
>>523979616Kek which site are we in right now? 9gag?
>>523979610>excuses excuses now give me what I haven't earned WAAAAH!Spoken like a true leftist.
>>523979536>You've only offered inflammatory and accusatory dialoguelmaoyou said:>Entering into a conversation with preconceptions and accusations simply underlines the problem here (>>523978851)meanwhile your opening post:>Why can't the left stand for having a calm, open discussion of ideas? (>>523978515)i know that you're trolling because i used to do the same shit by pretending to be totally calm and rational while engaging in comical hypocrisy and i found it very amusing and felt very clever.it is very amusing and you are cleverer than most, but not as clever as you think you are, and you will learn that the same way i learned it. you're essenitally smurfing, which ironically - or perhaps this is the joke - is exactly what charlie kirk by posting selectively edited videos of him arguing with children.i appreciate the performance.
>>523979666So you weren't gonna give anyone the dialogue, since they haven't earned it?
>>523978515>>523978568>the leftYou misspelled jews.
>>523979616>You have disqualified yourself from being taken seriouslybold of you to assume that i cannot just make you take me seriously
>>523979704I never offered any, at any point. And you disqualified yourself from warranting any. You see, hurling abuse and making demands like a spoiled brat doesn't motivate others to cooperate with you. I'll let you absorb the shock of this complex revelation about human interaction.
>>523979826You never offered any, and are incapable of doing so. You rouse others into scorn for you and wonder why they don't take you seriously. I accept your concession
>>523979716I almost cringed at this keyboard warrior display of empty bravado.
>>523979876and yet you have no response to this post: >>523979689choosing to ignore a devastating takedown of your false sincerity persona is still taking it seriously anon. you know it calls you out exactly and responding would require you to either abandon your persona of 'serious interlocutor' by responding to a well formulated argument supported by evidence with nothing more than pithy gotchas, or (if you actually were a serious interlocutor) acknowledge that you were hypocritically criticising anon for a behaviour that you literally did in the opening post. that's why you're ignoring it. and you will continue to ignore it because you are taking seriously the risks of engaging with it in any way.if you were not taking it seriously you would have already lobbed a witticism.i know how this works, anon. i'm literally you.
>>523980012>you are taking seriously the risks of engaging with it in any way.i should note that this is particularly hilarious to me because unlike charlie kirk you don't even make money off your false sincerity. the risks are wholly and solely to your own ego.
>>523978515Sometimes debating a rightwinger is like debating a murderer.>hmmm you like killing, but don't want to be killed yourself... interesting!doesn't do anything because the murderer didn't come into this wanting to bs fair in any way. The right doesn't believe in fairness, that's not why they do what they do. They believe in achieving and maintaining advantage over others and hold that they are naturally better than others and thus more deserving. It's like arguing "rights" when someone believing the founding fathers got it 100% right the first time; no voting for anyone but land owning white men. No logical or ethical appeal will have them expand those rights and spending your life debating them on this historically doesn't change their mind because they aren't aiming for logical or ethical appeals or consistency.And this isn't something unique to the right, people in general don't aim to be fair or consistent. Loving your pets doesn't mean you'd ever consider going vegan. Valuing the cognitive ability of a fetus doesn't make you an animal rights advocate. Opposing Israeli and Russian expansionism doesn't mean you want to give land back to natives.
>>523978568Why do you get so mad at someone simply saying they disagree with your lifestyle while importing people from cultures which MURDER YOU FOR BEING GAY. THEY KILL YOU YOU FUCKING RETARD. CHRISTIANS MADE COUNTRIES THAT STOP THAT AND YOU HATE THEM BUT THE MUSLIMS STILL DO IT AND YOU FUCKING LOVE THEM. ARE YOU SUICIDAL? WHAT IS YOUR FUCKING MALFUNCTION?
>Why can't the left stand for having a calm, open discussion of ideas?Nothing they say holds up to scrutiny.And they don't even believe their own bullshit most of the time.Also, it's important to divorce yourself from calling them 'the left'. They aren't left wing.
>>523979689>i appreciate the performance.Here or with ecelebs? I can put up with it here because it can hone one's rhetoric. I hate how that is the grift that most political streamers engage in.
>>523980012>i'm literally youbrazen samefagging
>>523979580in a gun-free zone, dipshit
>>523980158i appreciate it specifically in this thread because it's fun to be cruel to children who are trying to be cruel to others.but yes, in general it fucking disgusts me. but these grifters have always existed. what disgusts me more are the fucking cattle who fall for it. it's like which is worse, evil or gullible? but i think that they aren't that different. i think that gullibility is evil, or at least that a lot of the gullible fucks who swallow the grift do it because they want to. they want to be lied to because they prefer the lies to the truth. i think that a lot of the audience for political grifters aren't victims but are in fact complicit and co-creators.
>>523979867Everything you people say is a projection.
>>523979580>killed by a gun>>523979636>die from gunshotWorst forced meme ever.
>>523980295I'm willing to turn over a new page, are you?
>>523978568Why can't fags leave kids alone? Is it really too much to ask queers to not try to groom any kid they are near long enough to talk?
>>523980139Liberals accept Christians fine. They vote for them all the time. Do you vote for fags all the time? Would you ever?The "importing" aspect is just a liberal idea of traveling where you want. The bible has a death penalty for gays, so screening for just how conservative a muslim is like screening for nazism; the left doesn't suggest that either.
>>523979128The US right couldn't win the house majority for 40 years and it was only after they figured out they had to start with made up populistic attacks and demonization's that they actually won it back.So what you are seeing is that the populistic right's success at poisoning the well and winning with pure retardom has made the left go "oh I guess we have to go full retard too". You literally have people like that dogshocker Hasan Piker literally say he wants to emulate MAGA and he doesn't care for details or facts that much compared to successfully spreading a message.
>>523980319I've dealt with enough of your kind to know that any attempts at co-existence coming from you is a ruse to make it easier to stab me in the back at the nearest convenience. Or to accept a false peace with me so long as you can be as vitriolic to others of my kind, and will drop all pretense if I call you out on any toxic behavior you engage in.Basically what you want is submission, not cooperation. I have to be silent about my views around you, but you do not get the same stipulation.There can be no coexistence with your kind that respects my rights. None.You simply will not allow it.
>>523978568Like clockwork
>>523980447>muh bibleYet Christians do not put gays to death. Interesting, isn't it? >would you vote for fags?Depends. Will the fag share my beliefs?Will the fag respect my rights?
>>523980253Quality posts in this thread. Was it the new captcha that changed things? Been having much better discussions lately. Even in these distraction threads there have been big brained truth seeking anons upping the level of discourse. Thank you anon.
>>523980511That's funny, they told me the same thing about you, that you're an unreasonable and crass group. So, what do we make of OP's game?
>>523978677That's a pill that "conservative" types have already spent decades trying to swallow. This same conversation was being had in the 50's and 60's, and the world has still yet to hear a reasoned response as to what exactly "progressives" are progressing towards.
>>523980586You were lied to. As simple as that. But everything I've said of you and yours is true, as I've faced it first hand.It doesn't matter in the slightest. You will never allow me my rights. As for OP's game? He's not wrong. Left wing violence is rampant, and we've seen it only get worse. You people do not allow disagreement. At all.
>>523980705Half of you idolize the German Reich where dissenters were sent to camps, and the other half perhaps Founder America, where only free landowning white men could have a weighted say. Now, am I lying when I say these places were both meant to elevate a very specific group of people?
>>523980369The grooming shit is basically, at it's most blatant and intentional, gays remembering how insecure and sad they were as kids as well as wanting kids to grow up to not vote against gay marriage. That's really the issue. Believing that sexual attraction and orientation is changed when an ugly teacher tells you about gay rights is nonsense and any truly perverted motive hasn't been found. Grooming, real grooming, is when a friend offers to take care of your kids and spends time with them as if they're friends and equals, may help support and raise them, only for them to be predatory and planning on taking advantage of the child. A general message of "gays are okay" is less grooming than "I love you, you love me".
>>523980788And all of you idolize places that murdered dissenters and robbed people of their land.The left cannot criticize the right so long as it continues to worship socialism and communism. End of story.You have no room to talk.
>>523980510The GOP had such an image problem for ages. Neocons/business as usual conservatives had been the options until Trump barged in. What I find most hilarious is how the GOP was left scratching their heads as to why their own voters were swayed. Until Trump 2 they were scrambling to get their voters back without realizing their mistake. Funny to watch it implode like that. I don't believe they will survive Trump. There is no likeable candidate and they just want to go back it seems.
>>523980900I like today's America even if there is room for improvement, I don't idolize the Soviet union or some totalitarian state
>>523980913Both parties are cratering in terms of real popularity. The dems only continue to bring in votes because they've successfully engineered a system in which people have to vote Dem in order to survive.>>523980945Doesn't matter. You're aligned with the side that does. "If you eat at a table with Nazis..." as you people often say.
>>523980705On the right you have RWDs and Turner Diaries types, Stephen Millers in power, and they don't just want helicopter rides for disagreement, they want to kill crowds of random brown people in public places. Their issue isn't just about disagreement, it's about which ethnicities get to exist in this country.
>>523980988Bernie, AOC and Harris like the Soviet union? Excuse me?
>>523980988Lefties and dems vote for centrist dems who are friends with republicans all the time. They encourage it when it comes down to voting time.
>>523978568>Why can't you just accept people's sexual orientation?How does any of this benefit society and the human race in any way? It sounds like a selfish slow-death cult.
>>523981000That doesn't even remotely come close to covering the mainstream right in the US. But support of murderous regimes is the mainstream left. The actual left. Not the neolib Democrat "left."
>>523978515Because the left in the USA is actually not left, but libs, which is equaly facist as the right
>>523981046Are you fucking stupid? Bernie Sanders vacationed in the USSR when he was young. He spent his honeymoon there. He loved the place. Said so himself.
>>523981080you mean israel and the usa, who currently kill people without proper trial, u mean those murderous regimes ?
>>523981147In your mind, if Bernie got to govern, he'd turn into Stalin? He'd put gays in camps and minorities in penal battalions?
>>523979532>freak>flaglook in the mirror tranny
>>523981218Gonna dedovschina me too if I stray outta line?
>>523978677The left is vaxxed, they unironically have no future.
>>523981176He supported a regime that did those things. >>523981169Combatants and criminals attacking police are fair game to any sensible nation.
>>523981080The mainstream right publicly repeatedly supported Israel bombing kids due to their religious belief that they need to "bless Israel" to avoid being cursed by God. The mainstream elected right has been saying that on camera. There is no mainstream supported leftwing equivalent.
>>523981342What does support mean, that he went on vacation there? There's guys going to vacation in China, they don't have shit to say about uyghurs
>le leftReminder that Kirk was a talking head, an entertainer. He didn't invent a new product like AI or make a supply chain more efficient. He is no capitalist. He is a clown and they are all leftist whether they realize it or not. A clown that pretends to believe in a Christian god from his mansion is not right.
>>523979195>over time it is clear liberal thinking is the winnerThe government becoming more powerful and corrupt while the people become poorer isn’t winning, dummy.
>>523981342Here's Charlie Kirk supporting and joking about civilian targets getting leveled and mass murdered in Gaza:https://youtube.com/shorts/OU1qeCVfcNc
>>523981371Prove it.>There is no mainstream supported leftwing equivalent.The mainstream left constantly contends that all negative information about communism was CIA propaganda.That every person who has escaped and told their tales was just making it all up.
>>523978568God hates fags
>>523981557Oh no. He said something bad about Palestine. I guess we all need to impeach Trump and enact communism.
>>523981638Everyone on the left is a delusional worthless retard. Anyone who falls for their peer pressure bullying is a weak faggot. Nobody should care about maintaining friendships with these “people.”
>>523981762Yes. I've said as much in a previous post. They're not worthy of coexisting with, because they will never respect the rights of others.
Penal battalions had convicts and not minorities, that would be the first line to go die for papa stalin holding a gun that barely works. Plus, gays in camps sound like a wonderful idea!
>>523978568Why can't you accept the gender you were born with?
>>523981911They did some bad shit to the Poles and the Ukrainians, that's gotta count for something
>>523981974Ukrainians fought with the Nazis for a reason. Remember that.
>>523981638https://www.christianpost.com/news/ted-cruz-cites-genesis-123-for-support-of-israel.htmlHere is elected mainstream right Ted Cruz saying his support for Israel is biblical. It's common.Which mainstream elected lefties say all negative info about communism is CIA misinformation? Even Vaush laughs at tankies who claim that and will have segments laughing at old communist propaganda and retardation.
>>523982006Yeah and the Nazis gave them Erich Koch KEK
>>523978515Because for conservashit politicians and influencers the end goal is discourse in itself, that way they can justify their careers and salaries without having to stand for anything. Conservashit governance is simply stalling the leftists and talking while stuffing their pockets and the pockets of their donors. Conservashits have no real ideology, apart from perhaps zionism, which is the only thing they ever represented meaningfully. The left wants to win and dominate, and they only engage in discourse as a means to facilitate that end and only IF it facilitates it.
>>523982133>VaushReally, nigger?Also you want some irony? Homosexuality is legal in Israel. It's not legal in any of it's neighboring countries, and carries the death penalty in Gaza.That's not to say that I support Israel, mind you. But they're more liberal than the people who's side you're currently on.>but they're killing the poor little brown people!Who would kill you if they could get their hands on you.>>523982154>when the nazis are the better of two optionsReally puts your side into perspective, doesn't it?
>>523982270If they were so well accepted, the partisans wouldn't have been a problem. In a knife fight, there are no winners
>>523980319To what you initially said, nobody cares about your orientation/mental disorder. What concerns what is best for society is what is an issue, and promoting healthy nuclear family is what is good for a healthy society not degeneracy of any kind. Problem is you see no further than your own life, its me me me, while people who care about traditional values care about what is good for everyone.
>>523982388>invading force meets oppositionWow you don't say!?
>>523982514Yeah well Americans didn't meet this opposition in the Rhine when they occupied the country. Something else must have happened
>>523978515>worship Jews and defend at every junction >get killed by psychopathic chabadniks in insane human sacrifice Many such cases.
>>523982575Might have been all the communists living in Ukraine.
>>523980319You would love a more happy, mentally healthy and fulfilling life if you also care about society and do yours for the future. The reason society works is we have nuclear families with kids and everyone is invested in giving a good future for their children. Thats why one woman one man works, the more people that has a family the more invested everyone is in the future. If hypergamy were to set in and lgbt degeneracy promoted everywhere and sexual degeneracy, thats how you destroy society.
>>523982270You aren't answering my question:>Which mainstream elected lefties say all negative info about communism is CIA misinformation?I mentioned Vaush as an example of a lefty who criticizes communism, especially communism in Russia. There are lefties who call all negativity about communist Russia a CIA psyop, but the right saying "we must bless Israel" are mainstream and elected.Steve Bannon said the biggest threat to Israel isn't Hamas, it's the American liberal.
>>523982733Whatever the case, Germany in WW2 didn't raise some amazing partisan resistance after the fall, cause they didn't get what they gave. The allies were amicable and gave them better terms than they were giving them in turn
>>523982783I wouldn't compare Israel to the USSR, or Maoist China. You would, maybe. You sure to love those gay-killing brown people. For some reason.Also, again>VaushReally nigger?>>523982848Still can't deny the fact that when given the option between Nazis and Communists, a shockingly high number of Ukrainians picked Nazis. Maybe because the communists fucking starved a lot of them to death.
>>523978515Because left are the true alphas on this planet and right wing silver spoon fed spoiled babies are our hoes.
>>523982514If the Nazis supported nationalism in Ukraine and Poland they would have gained much more support. Instead they went on killing and expelling everyone who didn't spoke German. They fought the Jewish chauvinists by becoming worse than Jews.
>>523982942Sure, but all that talk of making collaborators out of them did jackshit in the end. In the end, all sides involved chose democracy
>>523982942Which mainstream elected lefties say all negative info about communism is CIA misinformation?I'm fine with Christians who vote against gay marriage, I'm not trying to kick them out of the country.
>>523978515>>523978568Because leftist ideas are bad and don't hold up under any honest scrutiny whatsoever.
>>523983035>all sides involved chose democracyHah. When did that happen for Ukraine?>>523983119Since when was this about "mainstream voices"? Oh right. The moment you barged in on a discussion between me and someone else. No I'm not answering your question. Especially when you think Vaush is a "mainstream voice" for the left. Like are you fucking serious?
>>523983197It took a while but eventually the union fell and the countries involved chose some form of democracy. Even Russia today isn't the animal it used to be
>>523983302Oh. So everyone just had to wait for communism to collapse so they could be free of it. What a wonderful outcome. How lovely.Fucking retard.
>>523983357Sure, they did have to wait and it paid off. What's the matter?
>>523978515Because they would lose.
>>523983452Other than the fact that peak leftism disallowed them from having any choice in the matter? Nothing, I guess.
>>523978515>open discussion of ideas?>Carefully edits videos to never lose look bad
>>523983491Peak leftism, the one that put gays in camps, minorities in gulags and women in kitchens?
>>523983543But enough about leftists smear merchants.
>>523978515retardo
>>523983582Yep. Leftism doesn't mean support for gays, women, or minorties. Crazy how you idiots think that, and yet every time it's done, they start throwing the queers in camps, the dissidents in gulags, and the women in kitchens.Yet in oh so horrid USA, they let fag bars operate openly even during the worst of times for your kind. Nobody ever disallowed women from holding jobs, and minorities were treated better than in most countries. Oh but go ahead and mention slavery. But even then the US was kid gloves compared to the way the French and Spanish treated them.
>>523978515>calm and open discussion >mocks people
>>523983754I already said I like the US, I prefer to agree and disagree than to get drawn and quartered. What you call the natural evolution of leftism is akin to saying our natural biological evolution is to become crabs, it is fetid nonsense and I disagree with your resolutions. I do not back the horses you think I back, I am conscious enough to know who butters the bread and who puts bullets in heads
>>523983197The topic was rampant leftwing violence and I gave you an example of rampant rightwing violence that is popularly supported by elected rightwing officials. I brought up Vaush as an example of a fringe lefty who makes fun of lefties more fringe than him.
>>523983875Communism is the peak of leftism. It is it's natural end game.>>523983930And what "rampant right wing violence" are we talking about here?Does throwing gays off of buildings count as "right wing violence"?
>>523978515Are you implying Kirk had something to do with calm, open discussion of ideas? He was a content farmer playing to a specific audience.
>>523984032That's nonsense, cause I know Uncle Sam does the better job. Why should I idolize the Soviets when I can see which of them allows gay marriage right now?
Kirk and other grifters aren't having a calm, collected debate and aren't fostering that kind of environment.They're trolling like>DEBATE ME BRO>R U MAD>U R SO MAD>I TOTALLY OWN YOU AND CANT BE WRONG!!They'd do better drop the tough-guy fighter act when it comes to intellectual debate. Tucker and Maher are both actually good at that, just casually talking without giant emotional displays.
>>523983875The problem is youre not. What butters the bread is traditional society and its in decline and it will crumble, due to degeneracy, lgbt, leftism, feminism, sexual degeneracy etc
>>523984103I don't care what you know. It doesn't change the fact that the USSR was what all leftism eventually aspires to be.You being a special and unique snowflake doesn't change this.
>>523984230By that logic all trump supporters eventually wind up being nazis. This is insane
>>523984032The kind of violence that is directly supported by elected rightwingers. There is no leftwing equivalent. Even when it comes to Islamic extremist rightwing violence, there is no leftwing support for it.
>>523984217If that's what you want to believe then so be it, America didn't need King George or the Archbishop of Canterbury to be powerful. Every decade, people will become more secular, and you'll see that not much will change, there is not going to be some day where everything falls apart
>>523984298Will most likely happen if things get bad enoughThere are millions upon millions who think nazi Germany was the good guys in the US alone and number is increasing
>>523978568because it starts with trauma, leave the kids alone.
>>523978515>calm, open discussion of ideasIf that's what you call baiting adolescents into making themselves look stupid on camera instead of debating their professors, then it's no wonder you're still clueless about why he got shot and nobody cared.Even the right and the groypers exposed him for not wanting to talk about the uss liberty in the first groyper war, and he was shown up to be the gatekeeping zionist shill that he was, because he and tpusa wanted that sweet sweet Israel money.
>>523984390That sounds like a betrayal of American founding father values, of the constitution
>>523979471Fags and nonces are peas in a pod.Don't it just burn your biscuits, that we got your number, dick licker?>But muh ProgressYour progress was a lie.Get back in the fucking closet.
>>523984375Im not talking about religion, im talking about human decency. Im talking about humans ability to repress urges is what puts us above animals, hedonism is death of society. Hedonism is everyone fucking their family because it feels good, there is no society without controlling urges, caring about society, its death of civilization.
>>523984298Trump supporters are the antithesis of Nazis. You cannot possibly be this politically illiterate. Communism is leftism to it's extreme. This commonly accepted knowledge among all political leanings. Nobody disputes this. Except you, apparently. >>523984341Leftists support Palestinians who throw gays off of buildings.Leftists were firebombing tesla dealerships, and destroying EV chargers, and Teslas. You're right in that there's no equivalence. Because left wing violence is orders of magnitudes more prevalent than right wing violence. Has any of us shot Hassan yet? Did any of us try to shoot Kamala?
>>523984532Leftism isn't one specific thing and neither is rightism, your retardation costs electricity, by your logic all right wingers are bound to become hitlerians
>>523978515They rely on confussion created by their lies.If you attempt to break that line, it will compromise their niggerdom satanistic rule, so they attack you first with words later physically.
>>523984531I still appreciate the fine boundaries of a bond and the commitment of a relationship. You'll find out eventually that being able to leave a bad marriage is not a detriment, it is a benefit to the one that suffers
>>523978568Theres no thing as sexual orientation.You are just mental ill people that love shit in their penis and mouth.
>>523984593Hitler himself wasn't even right wing. That's another idiotic canard pushed by the ignorant. He was an extreme authoritarian centrist. He disliked countless things about both the right, and the left.Again. It's not "my retardation," it's commonly accepted fact that communism is extreme leftism. You getting upset doesn't change this.
>>523984734Fascism is commonly accepted to be a right wing ideology, don't try to switch up the goalposts now
>>523984532They don't support gays getting executed though. The mainstream right, Kirk included, supports Israel bombing civilians.
>>523984422Its not, the world would be paradise right now if the good guys had won WW2. Jews are enemies of civilization, enemies of what is good in the world. They will destroy until they have a world of their own, that is their nature.
>>523984785America following its values and beliefs fought for its side and won that war, that is no crime. For a right winger to praise Hitler after all that happened is a betrayal of the country
>>523984858Jews made the war, nobody else wanted war.
>>523984654That is a lie, because in the end we are all stupid and everyone has its flaws and surrender to ones and others mundane diary errors and by that commit a divorce is an estupid gigamistake. Because in the very end your first spouse will be always The Spouse, no matter what.That is why the Verb is divine,real, based and true.
>>523984904Germany declared it on America
>>523978515A groyper killed him tho
>>523984930You can sleep on that side of the bed and accept the abuse, but others prefer a life where they don't dread waking up in the morning. Franco ruled for decades and yet Spain ditched that shit the moment he died
>>523978515Kirk's death was a test for the Right. The Right failed the Hegelian Dialectic.
>>523984858Jews behind Stalin, Jews behind Roosevelt, Jews behind churchill. Made brothers kill each other for the benefit of Jews, who hate the west, who are jealous of white people and want a world of their own, where all other peoples are slaves to them.
>>523984778By idiots. Italian Fascism was just Communism but without the Globalism shtick and a focus on ethno-nationalism and militarism. Economically it was the same beast as Communism.>>523984781But you support a people who do. Why is that? Why would you support people who murder gays? If Florida suddenly made it legal to murder gays, would you support the US Government sending in the troops to put a stop to it?Now what you really should focus on is that both Israelis and Palestinians are terrible, and that both Dems and Republicans are bad for taking sides in this stupid conflict. Same goes for Russia vs Ukraine. Both terrible. No good guys. Let them duke it out. The world is better with less of both groups in it.
>>523984942Jews declared war on Germany. Germany did not want war with anyone. Hitler did not want war.
>>523978515It is a jewish house of cards, that is why. I'm going to enjoy watching everything they worked for blow up in their face.
>>523985053If that's your belief, then what is the end goal of right wing thought, anarchocapitalism? By your logic sexuality has two choices, never have sex or have sex with even the dogs and the rats
>>523985096He wanted Danzig, and Bohemia, and Memel, and Sudetenland, and Slovakia, and Austria...
>>523985146German lands taken unfairly after WW1 for no reason.
>>523985121Reductio ad absurdum.This is a worthless waste of time. When you cannot even accept that there's degrees to something, then there's no reason to continue. The Norwegian was correct; you have an insanely selfish worldview. It's all about "me, me, me" with you.Because that's what this all boiled down to. My generalities about the left being applied to you, even with it's not.
>>523985146Land where German citizens lived who wanted to be part of Germany again
>>523985230So what if there's degrees? The world to you is either scalding hot or freezing cold, but I chose lukewarm, and I'm the crazy one here? You're legit freaking me the fuck out
>>523985295>>523985223Yeah, all the way to Stalingrad right? All that land was built for Hitler to demand in pointless peace talks
>>523985006Franco holded the line the best he could.We were the only remaining fascist country in Evropa after germanic matyrdom.Im proud of him and he died in the bed of a hospital, an hpnorable warchief that died of old age. HonorYou are a twisted mockery of a human being you only are driven by pettyfull urges, you bend yourself to meaningles desires, you have no will therefore you are no capable of clear thoughts and understanding. I pity you.
>>523985302Jew
>>523985302There you go projecting again. Not once did I ever imply this. This is your shortcoming being pushed onto others. Stop getting mad at the fantasies inside of your head.
>>523985392Being called a jew by a nazi must be such a compliment, means I rule the world
>>523978515FARTLEY SQUIRT
>>523985418All that yap just to say you have no arguments. What is the endpoint of right wing thought? Charlie would be ashamed of your bad mood talk
>>523985338Because he was going to the USSR to defeat Stalin, whom Hitler had warned would invade Europe and try to force Communism on the population. AND OH LOOK HE DID EXACTLY THAT WHO WOULD HAVE EVER GUESSED?Hitler guessed. He guessed right.
>>523985445You're on borrowed time, kike. And you know it. You will run to russia.
>>523985387Thank the maker your countrymen chose European integration and not another decade of larping
>>523985338Russia was going to steamroll and attack Europe, Hitler wanted to stop it.Not wanting war doesnt mean you're not willing to defend yourself.
>>523985487So you're going to behave like a petulant child. Got it.
>>523985501Hitler broke his arbitrary treaty with Stalin, it was the latter who was surprised, dishonorable even among tyrants!
>>523985549He can't address the argument guys, I short circuited him!
>>523985518Every time you pay taxes, just know that guys like me benefit, your state agrees with me, your electorate agrees with me
>>523985543Russia wasn't ready for a goddamm thing, that's why Barbarossa was so deadly at first, this is retroactive justification
>>523985578Faggot nigger that you are. Holy shit. I like how you so cleverly ignore objective reality. It's truly breathtaking.>>523985614I'm not going to address the arguments from someone who is trying to debate concepts he doesn't understand. There's no point. It's like a janitor trying to argue brain surgery. Who in their right mind would listen to him? Who would waste their time doing it with him? Nobody.
>>523978568why should I think about other people's sexuality?I am genuinely asking.
>>523985752There he goes, ad hominems with no arguments, and they call ME the faggot
>>523985649Good thing i don't pay taxes, you slimy little scumbag. Little rat jew.
>>523985688It's only "retroactive justification" because you don't know dick about WW2 history.Typical.
>>523985821Acting like one of those black people you despise so much, HAH
>>523985839I know Hitler lost and we won, our country won and that decides right there and then what can be right or not, to say Hitler knew shit when he failed utterly is paradoxical
>>523985860I'm not going to support a system that seeks to replace me. Cry about it.
>>523985913Better go live in the woods then, like some Irish Traveller, cause from me you'll get no lovin'
>>523985905This window into your selective worldview is utterly awe-inspiring. The levels of delusion you're reaching is approaching mental illness. The mick is onto something. You may well be a Jew.
>>523985983Still haven't answered my simple question, I will hound you like a pitbull till you display an argument!
>>523985860
>>523986043Point isn't what I believe, you've said as much, it is about what YOU want
>>523986037I've already told you that I'm not going to address arguments from someone who doesn't even have a basic understanding of the topic he wishes to debate. Now you're just displaying your mental illness for all to see.
>>523986067I do not think that black, the Afro-Turk, people do not pay taxes and I think they are good citizens of of Turkey.So don't assume any bullshit about me, racist.
>>523986124I accept your concession
>>523986132I would never diss kara boga
Kike on his knees for black dick once again. Sad.
>>523986147Okay, retard.
oh now we're doing passive agressive quips!
>>523986321You've said it yourself, you're done arguing, I accept your concession my boyI take you at your word!
>>523986355Let us review a list of things you will never be.> a woman> a woman> a woman> a woman> a woman
>>523986469I don't PLAN on being one, I believe in freedom
>>523986469Need to add>sane>humanBecause it's very likely a schizo neanderkike.
>>523984778who’s the ones censoring everything and throwing people in jail for speaking ?
>>523986867I don't agree with internet smalltalk leading to arrests either, but I do know Nazi Germany wouldn't be a free speech zone, that's a fact
>>523986988Listen to Adolf Hitlers famous speech
>>523987046I can listen to his office tenure, were liberals free to speak and move about during his years?
>>523987129You can’t say anything about him until you hear what he actually said you brainwashed freak
>>523987202Nigga he was in office, he could do as he wished, who gives a fuck about his prepared speech? I know what he DID
>>523978515Because that’s not Kirk actually did things. His conversations had more to do with exposing others weaknesses in their argument rather than attaining some kind of consensus. He was basically a bigot and misogynist that knew how to debate.
>>523979826>muh abuseYour face ought to be peeled like a grape, you dirty rape rat.
>>523987238He never said anything about killing Jews he was talking about what the Jews were doing to Germany and news flash, they are doing exactly what they did the to the Germans but to all of Europe today. You are too brainwashed to pay attention.
>>523987416If he believed jews were so vicious and he did nothing about them, that makes him a dishonest politician
>>523987476He said if they want to go to war we will goto war with them and he wanted them out of Germany so why would he waste precious resources feeding them and raising their children just to let Germans starve to death??! Your idea of history is what the jews told you.
>>523987784He kicked them out, or he kept them confined in camps? Who the fuck lived in these camps if not these dissidents and blamed peoples?
>>523978677lead off with Bible something next time and try again, fraud. hard pill to swallow for you I know
>>523987823If the Holocaust happened the way the jews say then he literally let his own people starve to death and lost the war just to cater to the jews
>>523988133If Hitler did nothing at all to the jews, these places didn't have a reason to exist. I don't take the jewish side automatically especially after what's happening in gaza, but I do know Hitler was no innocent man in this endeavor
>>523985053Saying "bombing civilians is bad" isn't supporting gays being executed. American patriotism is about more than just celebrating gay marriage.
>>523978515dont you see how they want to kill you over your views? the guy is fucking dead. when you start talking they want to murder you.why would you want to discuss anything with someone that wants to kill you.i wouldnt go near or talk to this person, ever.i wouldnt try to "compromise" with this person.
the republicuvk conservatards angle is just dragging everything to eternal lengths and accept everything at the end anyway.
>>523978515I don't want discussion, I want White People to stand up and quit hiding and cowering. Not as larpers but as an actual unified, dangerous Racialist movement.
Because we're past the point of words.
the republicans are just democraft who were asleep for 2 months and this is everytime the next current thing comes.>2 more months to convince themyoure liberals too.youre all leftoids.
>>523988393The civilians who kill gays. Palestine kills gays.
you lied to yourself all this time and you will lie to yourself until youre dead. the end.
The right wants anyone that disagrees with them or doesn't fit their mold to die. Been yapping about this for years. But now they want civil political discourse? Lol go fuck yourself.
>>523989407The leftist projects once again.
>>523989481I don't care. Cope and seethe.
>>523988915Not all of them. By your logic, lefties should just kill Trump voters but they keep voting for people who smile and shake his hand.
>>523990084Lefties do want to kill Trump supporters.
>>523978515Pic unrelated
>>523978677>my team is betterThe only way forward is to get rid of this red teamn vs blue team ideology.
why didn't he protect he neck
>>523978515Why is the right wing always trying to claim that their gotcha ragebait videos are simply reasonable political discussion?
>>523978568>2nd post> this thread is about me nowFuck off. This is why. No one cared but you refused to shut up about it how you like to suck cocks and eat cum and take dicks up the ass and lick assholes.
>>523991467His stuff was definitely banking on ragebate but it was still correct. It's a "gotcha" to you people because you can't debate the logic and he did get you.
>>523978515Billionaires fuck babies on private islands and pay grifters like Charlie Kirk to blame the crippling existential anxiety everyone feels on black and brown people.
