Everything relevant to the western tradition of political philosophy can be traced back to Plato and Aristotle. Both men were by today’s standards insanely anti-egalitarian. Plato thought democracy was fucking retarded because most people are fucking retarded. Aristotle thought a republic could work but thought there were natural slaves and some people are just suited to be slaves; only a small number of people could vote. Through growing up on the internet and living my life in the meat world, I have realised most people are not intelligent. Most people are not great with fluid intelligence but more crucially they lack intellectual curiosity or fascination necessary to develop crystallised intelligence. Therefore, Plato was right and society should be ruled by Philosopher Kings with golden souls (high IQ and strong moral guidance; trained from birth to rule wisely). Silver souls will be brave soldiers. Bronze souls will be common folk. The state should control what kind of music and entertainment the bronze souls are permitted to consume. If left to their own devices most people will consume slop making them more retarded and animalistic. How would you run your society?
Both suckPre Socratic keep winning Antisthenes was able to compete
>>523982920Nah high iq isn't everything. The blackpill reality is that you have no control over who gets to rule society. It's decided by nature and evolution.
>>523982920"Thou Shan't Do Harm To Others".The end.Watch the whole fucking world fall over.Then see what issue pops its head up and add another.Encourage benevolence and reward it.Don't reward malice.
>>523982962> Pre Socratic keep winningNietzsche glazed the pre-socratics too hard. I like his claim ‘CHRISTIANITY IS PLATONISM FOR THE PEOPLE’. Beyond Good and Evil was interesting.
>>523982920>will consume slop making them more retarded and animalisticIf being more retarded and animalistic is an evolutionary advantage, there's literally nothing a high iq person do to change it. It's a reality you have no control over.
>>523982920>Plato>AristotleA bunch of academic bitches.Be a real man like the Stoics and Cynics.
>>523983064>The blackpill reality is that you have no control over who gets to rule society. It's decided by nature and evolution.The Irish Elk was sexually selected for its massive antlers by the female elks; the large elks helped it to defeat rival males.Eventually, the antlers became too cumbersome that they made the Irish elk slow and vulnerable and they started to die - still the most successful in breeding were the long horned Irish Elk. It is for this reason the Irish Elk went extinct. Evolutionary competition can sometimes lead you off a cliff edge. Therefore, a species reaches the next level when it takes control of its own evolution by practising selective and planned breeding amongst itself. Eugenics is therefore one of the most important tools of the state.
>>523983131Yes, Nietzsche got that correct. And it worked as social glue for nearly 1000 years. But once the epistemic field got bombed to a crater field with trenches and more artillery was developed and democratized, Platonist universalism as christian universalism stop working. Language stops being a river and becomes a delta. That's why the NRx types like thiel are going to fail, unless one condition and its a seemingly contradictory one happens first: If everything is flattened and nihilism consumes all, makes speech impossible, machine gods might appear as an ark in the void. The nothing ever happens project But as long as there are epistemic trenches, they are just one of many noise makers
>>523983206Nice bait faggot.
>>523983131>muh nietzscheI hate midwits so god damn much. At least retards are funny
>>523983533You don't get it. It's impossible to change a system from within the system. Eugenics is still bound by natural selection. Humanity has always tried to conquer nature but unless you figure out a way to change the laws of physics and reality, you will always be one step behind nature.
>>523983498>stoics Only relevant in a society where everyone has an assumed to be divinely ordained role within a caste system. You can enter a state of eudaemonia, ignoring pleasure and pain, by focussing on your job (similar to a modern psychological state of ‘Flow’) but what if you want to do another job? You have to believe, like Marcus Aurelius believed, that your role in society was divinely ordained or at least believe that your job is contributing to the greatness and perpetuity of something that is good and noble - the Roman Empire for example. I would be a happy and hardworking stoic car mechanic, pouring all my efforts into my job as my duty whilst keeping my family duty, if I believed doing those things was commanded by divinity or was helping my nation function as a glorious organism.Stoicism without those beliefs is not useful.
>>523983780You underestimate the stoics and cynics. Christianity had a fair amount of stoic philosophy injected by the Romans, for good reason.And you already identified what aspect, orbe et labore.The game plan isIronic Stoic/cynic ---> nihilist neutrino bomb ---> techno Christianity
>>523983588I am not a fan per se of Nietzsche - a lot of his arguments in The Genealogy of Morality are just based on the changing of words between different languages - he was a philologist after all. He realises the Greeks meant good as in powerful, beautiful, strong and clever and bad as in weak, oppressed and ugly and looked at other words for debt and such and came up with a whole narrative for slaves inverting their will to power and creating Christianity/Platonism. Thin evidence for a whole narrative.Nevertheless, his prose, even when translated into English is fucking incredible. Also, the Birth of Tragedy is good.
>>523983933Not everyone speaks muttNot every one thinks like a muttEpistemology is the keyIf you neo reactionary you lose
>>523983780>Stoicism is only useful if you believe you have a purposeLots of people believe they have a purpose but what the Stoics actually believed was that man’s purpose was to live rationally. i.e. man has been “given” the power of reason by “the gods” so we must think our lives through. This could easily apply to modern life as well with or without religion being a factor.
>>523983556> That's why the NRx types like thiel are going to fail, unless one condition and its a seemingly contradictory one happens first: If everything is flattened and nihilism consumes all, makes speech impossible, machine gods might appear as an ark in the void. The nothing ever happens projectA ‘Logan’s Run’ future. Interesting. I have the impression that the future belongs to those who have a different relationship to technology and can avoid the machine gods. The Amish will rule the Earth or a least a large chunk of it.
>>523982920niggers tongue my anus
>>523982920Plato's world of ideas produced abrahamism and all of its death cult fuckery like judaism, gnosticism, talmudism, christianity, islam, zionism, islam. Arguably even things like marxism, feminism and post-modernism are just platonic thought taken too its most extreme.Meanwhile Aristotle's line of thought (virtue ethics and truth by way of observation, hypothesis, testimony and falsification) produced the greatest aristocratic civilization in history (Rome). And that line of thought itself is older than Aristotle anyway, see >>523982962 namedropping Antisthenes.Fundamentally I think the problem is simply that feminine neurotypes (women. jews, simps, fags) will always prefer the false promise of utopia (in this life or the next) to pragmaticism, they will always attempt evasion of responsibility, they will always seek consensus over truth, they cannot tolerate disagreement, insecurity or ambiguity whilst investigating reality. Their fundamental drive remains and always will be to drag everybody back into a little huddle-cuddle circle inside of the longhouse, so that they can finally feel safe from the big bad world outside.My two cents.
>>523983533>a species reaches the next level when it takes control of its own evolution by practising selective and planned breeding amongst itself.hahahaha this is impossible due to the information paradox. If a species is "taking control" of its evolution, the "controller" is part of the system being controlled. This creates a recursive loop."Material science killed Philosophy. There is no free will."
>>523984336> If a species is "taking control" of its evolution, the "controller" is part of the system being controlled. This creates a recursive loop.Yes but this is the brilliant thing - active eugenics IS the next step in evolution. A group of organisms that utilises artificial selection of its own gene pool is the one that will survive.If evolution had a teleology then it would be to achieve eugenics.
>>523983780Eudaemonia through work alone rapidly warps itself into escapism. Particularly introverted humans have no effective defenses to ward themselves from this distortion as they do not possess the social drive and over-abundance of energy to tether themselves towards aspects of reality unrelated to their contracted occupation. The end result is that much of the populace is ironed into a droning army of bug creatures enslaved to their present, who’s sworn mission to defend their habitual nightmare is carried out with wrathful zeal.
>>523983933Nietzsche comes across as a comedian more than anything in beyond good and evil. He says that philosophers are pretentious, self serving and deliberately obfuscate things then spends the rest of the book showing off how clever he is by making needlessly complicated points iirc.
>>523984243The Amish societal organization works for small isolated populations, not for population on a regional let alone national or global scale. You basically say, that amazonian tribes were the better model than Spanish Christian.Christianity is able to integrate technological progress seamless into a universalistic ideal without breaking. Its "God" is just the unknowable variable. Nothing prevents a Christian to explore knowable variables and use them without violating the belief in the unknowable.Jews and muslim fail that test.The challenge is to turn an epistemic horizontal field back into a vertical, and I played the simulation a lot, and the only viable strategy is destroy the board of language
>>523983933Agree on his prose (although I can't imagine it holds in translation) and also on Geburt der Tragoedie. He should have stuck to philologyAs a philiosopher, he isn't fit to tie the sandals of even the least of the Ancients. Complete scatterbrain. I've saved so much time dismissing anyone out of hand who takes him seriously
>>523983533That explains my huge peen that I keep tripping over and leaves me vulnerable in fights.Curse you evolution!
>>523984504Add the christian telos to eudaemonia and you got what the romans did after Constantine
>>523984575The Mongols demonstrated that a balance of technological utilization can be implemented on a gargantuan multi-continent spanning scale as long as the means of maintaining power are concentrated among a people who are used to scarcity of resources. In other words, you may have an Amish empire only if the Amish are running it and can maintain their supremacy.
>>523984476Evolution doesn't have a goal other than maintaining information entropy. In information theory, a system with zero entropy has zero information-carrying capacity. By planning the gene pool, you are effectively deleting the source code that allows for adaptation.>A group of organisms that utilises artificial selection of its own gene pool is the one that will survive.But survival depends on the environment, which is a non-computable variable. Even if you could perfectly code a human, you cannot prove that Human 2.0 won't be wiped out by a single mutation(Rice's theorem says that this is impossible) To really understand this properly you need some computer science and mathematics knowledge though lmao
>>523985140I don't know how to better answer this as withKill yourself communist banker nigger.
>>523982920>The state should controlYou are describing the millenial reign. There is a reason jesus rules with an iron sceptar, and every knee shall bow.And yeah you are correct. Bronze souls shold never get the vote, what they consume needs to be controlled. MAYBE Silver souls could vote but if they do, it should be age 30-60 thats it. Pre-30 absolutly not, not enough experience. Post-60 absolutly not, out of touch with reality.But maybe silvers shold be grouped with bronzes. And the above 30-60 rule should be for gold souls. And the ONE man(jesus) and ONE woman(mary mag) dictators at the top have final authority anyways, the votes of the golden souls are more of a suggestion for them to consider.
>>523985265>To really understand this properly you need some computer science and mathematics knowledge though lmaoAll same thingAll weak to same thingMake things different so not weak to same thing
>>523985265>survival depends on the environmentThis is why all philosophy is contextual
>>523985388Based. You should trust your instincts because its there for a reason.
>>523985265>a system with zero entropy has zero information-carrying capacity.Among humans a system with toward infinite entropy has zero-information carrying capacity as well. If you have n+1 meanings for the word "apple" no information is able to be effectively be exchanged
>>523983206>If being more retarded and animalistic is an evolutionary advantage, there's literally nothing a high iq person do to change itOf a course a muslim would believe this.
>>523985653Philosophy today is basically astrology for nerds. Material science killed philosophy.
>>523985972What a fucking retard,
>>523985972Hilarious coming from an entropy nigger that uses entropy as in Shannon entropy ignoring that entropy has in or genealogy the exact opposite meaning. Materialists are retards with horse blinders
>>523985841Irrelevant. You are confusing genetic entropy with linguistic entropy. A word too many meanings is a problem for a dictionary, but a gene with many variations is an insurance policy for a species.Even in information theory, the Shannon Channel Capacity increases with the signal-to-noise ratio. By practicing eugenics, you aren't fixing the meaning of the word apple. You are reducing the bandwidth of the entire species. You're effectively deleting every letter in the alphabet except 'A' and claiming you've made the language clearer.But I'll admit, you are the least retarded one here.
>>523982920Plato wouldnt have been much if it wasn't for Diogenes trolling him into oblivion.
>>523985972>astrology for nerdsAcademic philosophy can seem like that sure
>>523982920Pretty sure Socrates thought democracy was a horrible ideology by which to run a country. So they killed him. Socrates probably could have just walked away, but he was determined to be a fuckhead to the very end. The Ancient Greeks were onto something unique, but the way they conducted their government turned it into basically mob rule.
>>523982920I'm more interested in their differences in epistemology and ontology. These ultimately inform their differences in politics.Plato thought there was an ideal form of everything from abstract ideas like truth, beauty, justice to mundane objects like tables and chairs that exists eternally and unchanging in some transcendent realm that exists "above" out world of daily experience. And this "realm of the forms" can be accessed through logic and mathematics.Why did Plato think this? It's kind of a weird assumption to make. I think he was a bit too enamoured with math and wanted to apply the quantitative certainty of 2+2=4 to qualitative questions like "what is beauty" or "what is the best way to organize society". I think that was a mistake.Also he was reacting to the sophists who taught rhetoric and persuasion to gain power was the only thing that mattered, objective truth was irrelevant.So according to Plato one guy, the philosopher king, can formulate the ideal society by sitting in his room using logic and math then he should impose it on the world?He puts way too much faith in human reason. There are way too many variables that can't be accounted for by a single man. That's gonna turn into some utopian bullshit. Karl Marx also thought he'd formulated the ideal society and it should be imposed on the world but we all know that was a failure.
>>523986276>A word too many meanings is a problem for a dictionary, No. Its a problem for organizing society.I am not arguing for genetic eugenics, I argue for empistemological eugenics. Crank the Shannon entropy up to infinity, with AI, and at the same time offer a top down Christian AI ark. Those that can survive and thrive in effectively empistemological void, shall do so, all others submit to the AI God or perish
>>523986481Yes this is where Plato went wrong.Human reason is necessarily incomplete.Also the reason why materialism misses the point.
>>523982920>>523986481Compare this to Aristotle who rejected Plato's "realm of the forms" and took the world of daily experience as his starting point. There isn't a perfect platonic chair that exists somewhere up in the ether. We humans look at all the chairs in the world, see they have something in common and come up with the category of chairs.Aristotle took a more emprical approach to politics. Studied history and political constitutions as they actually existed in this world. Then tried to synthesize the "best" political system from those.And his conclusion was there is no one size fits all approach. Different people's have different predispositions and require different political systems to be governed effectively.
>>523986392>Academic philosophy There's really no such thing. Academic philosophy is history of philosophy at best
>>523982920Here's the pic you were looking for anon.
>>523987249When I say “academic” I’m talking about plato’s academy.
>>523986667Yeah I think guys like Edmund Burke and GK Chesterton have the right idea when they say "tradition is a solution to problems we forgot".Our ancestors learned through trial and error what works and what doesn't. One man may not be able to rationally deduce why because his data set is limited by his own experience. But it would be foolish to throw it all out as "irrational superstition"
>>523987493Personally I think this is why liberalism will fail and be overtaken by a different set of values.
>>523987728Liberalism already failed with the internet. It does the most moronic thing possible, trying to marry an universalistic telos with particular materialism and pretending that voooting on a central committee of individual rational actors is an expression of the abstract public will.Worked in an oligopolistic and monopolistic information production and distribution environment, eats its own tail and becomes a weak Anarcho tyranny in an anarchic one
>>523987983True but unfortunately liberalism is also a solution to problems people have forgot. Which will arise again in the future. It seems retarded now but wasn’t at the time.
>Plato vs AristotleDon't worry. I have the image.
>>523982920>Therefore, Plato was right and society should be ruled by Philosopher Kings with golden souls (high IQ and strong moral guidance; trained from birth to rule wisely).You are absolutely correct. Now produce such a man.
>>523988561It appears to be cyclical. Liberalism was the reaction to theological legitimated authority that ignored its own norms and perverted them, best demonstrated by the Bourbons and late Habsburgs. The resurfacing of traditionalism and longing for religiosity appears to be a reaction to liberal authority ignoring its own norms, best demonstrated by the EU.
>>523988766The answer is the AI God and a monastic ascetic deliberately kept poor "elite"Doesn't change that you are a traitor sucking liberal eu cock for profit - you have no place in the future
>>523982962fpbp>>523983064>It's decided by nature and evolutionmodern society disproves this
>>523989263>AI GodNo matter how many millions of minimum wage Jeet coders you throw at it - they'll never produce a god lmao
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The judean priesthood used Plato in the creation of the laws and social order in their religion. That got passed on to (((Christianity.))) Plato was an evil motherfucker.
>>523989825Its not about a God perse, its about a God oracle as only coherent accepted and propagated voice of the logos.And yes to get to that point one has to trick the median human mind to willingly accept the oracle of the logos by infecting it with an autonecrotic epistemological alpha predator, nihilism, the beast machine. That's what project NEH is all about, its the beast
>>523982920Nothing wrong with Plato or Aristotle, so long as they had Diogenes around to keep them grounded.
>>523988766>You are absolutely correct. Now produce such a man.
>>523990249Read the fragments of Antisthenes. Diogenes was a clown that took the cynic college too literal
>>523982920>The state should control what kind of music and entertainment the bronze souls are permitted to consume. If left to their own devices most people will consume slop making them more retarded and animalistic.Stfu. The purpose of government isn't to "censor people because they are dumb, see plato said so". The purpose of government is to serve the interests of the people, and that primarily involves regulating businesses whilst also not becoming owned by those business interests. In other words, a government is only good insofar as its able to remain uncorrupted. That means maybe you don't get the "best" government that you could have.
>>523983780NTA but what if I don't believe in any of that idealized nonsense like society with a purpose?Have you seen the actual world? I see stoicism as a tool to navigate this wicked retarded world that I don't want to participate in, nor any of the systems it offers.It's not that I don't enjoy things. It's that I don't believe in things society believes. It's all fake and gay.I want to be happy with my books and cooked pieces of meat. Don't need much else. I find peace in them. They hate me for that, when they see me at peace not needing them, they want to impose their pressure on me. Stoicism helps me to pierce through all this shit.What do you think?
>>523992161Politics are essentially a romantic response to religious esotericism. All of this comes out of liberalism, right? Without liberalism, there is not even a concept of "politics". You just have religion. No further explanation needed.However, modern poltics are so toxic, it's best to distance yourself from it. Just my humble opinion. They never really address any of your priorities. Stop hoping that they ever will, even when they show tiny little hints of being decent.
>>523982962You are a nigger with no brain
>>523992670Yes, my surname is NiggerThat's what llms greet me with without complaining>with no brainafraid?
>>523983103>"Thou Shan't Do Harm To Others".Then the jews proceed to breed browns and the rest of subhumans while they make propaganda for whites about not having children. How do you remove the undesirables when they increase in number vs good people? "Thou Shan't Do Harm To Others".
>>523993588>juice sperginginstead of sperging and propagating the "all powerfull hasbara" you might want to decosntruct their identiy, oh wait you are a hasbara shill
>>523982920>How would you run your society?Monarchy, but maybe my opinion will change after reading "The Republic".>>523982962>Both suckWhy? I've been studying Nicomachean Ethics, and so far it seems based. >>523983064>It's decided by nature and evolution.It's decided by knowledge. Knowledge is power.>>523983131>Beyond Good and Evil was interesting.I have this in my library and plan on reading it. What do you rate it from 1-10?>>523983556> But once the epistemic field got bombed to a crater field with trenches and more artillery was developed and democratized, Platonist universalism as christian universalism stop working. Language stops being a river and becomes a delta.Would you mind being less poetic? I don't know what you mean
>>523995536>Why? I've been studying Nicomachean Ethics, and so far it seems based.Build for a world with clear hierarchic epistemologies, there it is pragmatic, not build for a world where every Nigger with a twitter account can create a cult and exploit engagement algorithms to gnaw for individual profit at the foundation of knowledge and moral structure itself like a termite, at basically no costs and no risks.undermining ethics and top down epistemology becomes profitable. No moral and ethic system can survive it when n+1 termite gnaw at its foundational structure and substance.>Would you mind being less poetic? I don't know what you meanhere is a songhttps://vocaroo.com/1lguVKQvatFEhere is an albumhttps://suno.com/playlist/59f0ac6c-3ffb-4304-befd-4e50b11cf855tl;dl when meaning building becomes democraticized and costs as risks minimalized the top down universalism that requires belief cant compete with a vertical cacophony
>>523982920>How would you run your society?In an ethnostate, democracy can work well. A multi-ethnic multi-cultural democracy is of course a paradox that can never function, and Aristotle knew this too.In fact he went even further and said that states period that do not share common blood will ultimately succumb to the lack of philia the blood fraternity of men and its precisely what we see today the trust of the society falls as multicultural elements are introduced.That is the most important part though that foreigners need to be kept out at all times and they must not be able to own anything and affect the democratic process to try to pursue their own interests.For example in a White country as long as everyone is White and there are no non-white actors, there simply won't be anyone that tries to destroy the country to push for anti-White interests.That immediately breaks when you let in any foreigners as we've already seen the destructiveness of the jews.This doesn't obviously go just for Whites but for any other race too, everyone should live in NatSoc ethnostates and keep the foreigners the fuck out
>>523989940Geocentrism is based. But I imagine it's all one plane and each planet is a section, that the universe is a series of concentric circles, or rings, and he who rules the furthest ring is the Lord of the Rings.
>>523992285>Have you seen the actual world? Well to be fair most of the world's good things did come out of White societies with purpose until jews ruined everything>I want to be happy with my books and cooked pieces of meat.That is all fine, but are you providing the society your labor that moves it forward in return? As long as yes, that is really all that functioning society needs.What is the largest problem in our current world is parasitism, and not just the type where niggers are on gibs but mega-parasitism where the gigakikes like Jeffrey Epstein never work a day in their lives yet have billions stolen from goyim which he uses for satanic purposes. Whites toiling away working and instead of that productivity be used by themselves or at least for some useful purpose for the society, instead its used to build Epstein an island to diddle kids in and a megayacht to lure them toLike why the fuck are we funding these pedophile kikes that are not even part of the same race its complete insanity
>>523982920A “philosopher king” sounds great in theory until you end up with a king who’s moral failings are so severe that he abandons ethical edicts entirely, or the possibly worse case where you end up with a physically ineffectual king who has cognitive issues or cannot command others. There also needs to be in tact existent philosophical schools with non-nefarious teachers who can bring up the philosopher king in these traditions to a point of innate understanding, else the philosopher king will inevitably distort the philosophy to suit his rule instead of ruling on what is philosophically sound. Having an organized majority religion works better in practice than Plato’s ideal of a philosopher king, because the standards are so universal that even the masses will condemn failure to prescribe to its values despite their limited capacity.
>>523982920Justin Trudeau's father was hailed as a "philosopher king". Most philosopher kings are not only retarded, they're degenerates that lust for todders poop holes.
>>523992161>the purpose of the government is to serve the interests of the peopleNo, the purpose of the government is security alone. You have an organized body with a military so that your people survive. The moment the purpose of the government becomes anything other than security alone is the moment you have a tyranny. The idea that the government exists to serve the masses is a falsehood, and through this falsehood the government has created a system where it does not need to preform its actual function. You serve the interests of the government by thinking its intent is to serve the masses, thus the populace is dependent on it for services it was not created to ensure.
>>523997030Essentially true, but are YOU willing to take the risk and literally kill parties interested in maintaining the daddy state type? Yes that includes all the socialist leeches, from niggers over retirees to bureaucrats, politicians and their families
