if you hear>ai is a bubble>datacenters are bad>trump bad for deregulating ai>ectthese are chinese bots sowing dissent among the american democratic populous. reminder: if china wins the ai race and actually creates a sentient godlike superintelligent self improving ai, in a hopeful scenario it would be under control and that control would be china. but realistically a godlike superintelligence would outsmart us all simple as
>oh god what if they create a search engine, chat bot and image generator all in one? OH GOD OH NOOO IT'S OVER
>>524012431here is one of them
>>524012326this dog is CUTE!
>>524012326Not really. I could make the counter that AI hypers are just over invested stock shills. Enjoy holding the bag.
The main issue I have with AI is that they're buying up all the GPUs, VRAM, RAM, SSDs, etc and making the prices skyrocket for consumers. Now a gamer like me has to buy double or more for the same hardware.
>>524012668>buy double or moreI meant to say pay* double or more the original price
>>524012520this is what chinese bots do>ai isnt that big of a deal>overinvested>overvalued>wont actually do anything>ectthese are chinese bots desperately trying to convince the american populous the exact opposite of what all the scientists are saying. that in 1 maybe 2 years we will get this totally unstoppable out of control superintelligence and all we can really do is beat china to inventing it. if anyone says anything differently its a ploy to slow our progress. basically just chinese spies throwing wrenches in our gears
Monitos
>>524012668How much is really needed beyond normal circumstances. It's really either speculation or supply chain issues you fucking moron.
>>524012326He cute
>>524012503this is now a smol animal thread
>>524012799I don't understand your post or why I'm a moron for complaining about high prices
personal desires, i want gpu i want ram ect are faggy retarded retards that want attention not even thinking about what its going to be like with a chinese super ai fucking them in the ass and ressurrecting them when they die from their injuries so it can fuck them in the ass harder and more. many of you lack the ability to imagine how bad it could get
>>524012716You got me, I chinese AI, ching chong beep boop
>>524012858great lets give all the power to jews then. They really love our nations and white people
>>524012854Based.
>>524012326What if, get this, I want China to win because I live in a shithole beyond saving and want chinks to liberate me.
>>524012856How much ram beyond average supply does a data center use. How many data centers are set to come online this year (they don't stockpile a crap load, JIT supply chain). You're buying a narrative like bird flu raising egg prices (they just had farms cull healthy birds to raise prices).
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>>524012520I'll take you on in that argument by first calling you retarded. :^)
>>524012326>ai is a bubbleWhen I saw the massive YouTube push stating that AI was a bubble, I instantly knew it was priced in.
bro just give it one more year! huh i specifically said five years! didn't you hear me it's coming in 20 years!!!
kys jeet
>>524012326Almost all dogs are ugly, but that little shit is probably one of the ugliest I've seen yet. Thanks, anon.
>>524013309who are you talking to?
AI is a bubble.When you google "when will AI crash" it tells you with their AI response that market insiders and even AI supporters are saying that there's a major correction coming in 2026-2027.>So EHRM but it's a supertechnology and will do everything!It has to give a return on its investment and have a realistic valuation of a market. The market doesn't care what it turns into in 5, 10, 20 years. It has to do something by next year, or said money will move elsewhere. That's what a bubble is, when current valuations don't match current production.
AI is in a bubble but only for small startups just like dotcom, This isn't going to affect AI development overall and might actually be a good thing overall so we don't waste our time on "AI powered useless shit".
>>524013610True somewhat, except it's true of all companies. They have the investment but must now make money with it, and must make working tech that provides a good / service.It's not just small startups, but big companies, they don't actually have anything to do with their models. It's a race to improve and have the best model and people see a big prize at the end, when the reality is that they actually just need to make products that are worth money.Yeah, it's a good thing this bubble pops. That means companies can look at profitability instead of racing to a nonexistent finish line.
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>>524012326>ectec tetera
>>524013610Ha, you have no idea how balls deep the big guys are going into this to shift their programming out of the US to India operations. Reports going that M$ and AWS, plus others including one of Trump's endeavors, grand total $130B promised so far. The AI bullshit is mostly cover, but it's going to have catastrophic consequences. Don't think for a second that tech is going to improve.
>>524013278>he doesn't know Contemplate the idea muh AGI/ super intelligence was achieved in 2015, sweetie. Now look at the world you are living in.
>>524012326>godlike superintelligent self improving aimeds
>>524012326>in a hopeful scenario it would be under control and that control would be china.
>>524013897Investing in power generation and computational hardware is a pretty easy bet to make.
We are leaving the hardware bubble, cloud earnings will be strong and fuel the bubble throughout the model training phase, then it will probably pop sometime after that when everyone realizes how shit generative AI is. Everyone is too early on calling the bubble pop but it will happen in a couple years. If you think we are on the verge of some sort of super intelligence, you don't understand the underlying technology. You essentially believe in magic.
>>524014141why isn't there hot furry AGI babes then
>>524014534I don't answer questions from furfaggots.
>>524012326LLMs can't count letters in strings, I think super-intelligence has a probability of exactly zero. Also, I'd support China over the jews and zog.
>>524012326Your AI stocks will go to zero
zero rubuttals against all the scientists agreeing that ai superintelligence is a race and not funnelling all of united state's economy into it is a mistake. go ahead make your retarded ass argument against it
its a drag race and the country that puts a muffler on and a smaller engine because its too loud and scary loses
>>524012326>if china wins the ai race They won't. Google is positioned to win the AI race. This will happen over the next two years.>and actually creates a sentient godlike superintelligent self improving ai,Yes, but it will mostly be used to gather information about you and then make massive profits by selling that information to others or using it directly to manipulate you into buying things or doing things that make money for other people. But on a scale incomprehensibly beyond what they are already doing. And you will have no idea it is even happening. Remember this word: personalization. The models will know more about you, and understand you better than you know and understand yourself. This will allow it to manipulate your thoughts and behaviors so perfectly that you think it's the best thing ever.The same technology will be used by the government to do the same thing and gather information on people and use it to manipulate them on an unimaginably unprecedented scale. And that's in the best outcomes. Even in the most idealistic techbro UBI utopias where everyone lounges around like kings because AI figures out free energy, you're still going to have Gemini/Palantir Eye of Sauron watching and recording everything about everyone.In the bad outcomes, the superintelligent godlike AI will just exterminate humanity before anyone even realizes what is happening.I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
>>524014534>why isn't there hot furry AGI babes thenthere's alien races out there that fit your furfag narrative, only thing is they want to kill you not only for your retarded fetish, but more reasons
>>524013897>True somewhat, except it's true of all companies.No, it's true for AI meme companies like OpenAI who have models that they somehow need to start making massive profits from very soon, and all the meme startup companies whose innovative business plan that is attracting tons of VC money is basically just "...but with AI!" Those companies will all either end up collapsing and disappearing, or will get bought up by some major tech company who wants their assets.Companies like Google, Amazon, Apple, Nvidia, Meta, who are already making huge net profits aren't under the same pressure to start generating billions in net profit solely from their AI models in the very near future. Those companies can continue investing in their own AI (and buying whatever the bubble companies developed before failing) and then start leveraging the technology.
>>524012326>wins the ai raceKill yourself shekelstein
Daily reminder a race towards AGI/ super intelligence is dumb as fuck because, by definition, a super intelligent entity would not only be uncontrollable but would also be almost impossible to prove it exists/has been achieved unless it wanted it's existence to be known. Why is it so hard to grasp that professional manipulative bullshitters ie capitalists and their politician lackies are bullshitting? They have every incentive to use both government and 3rd party private funding to build out their own capacity to generate energy and produce computational hardware that can be used to manipulate financial markets.
There's no such thing as artificial intelligence you gullible faggot
>>524012326AI is worse than crypto for PC's though, if you didn't upgrade in the past couple years you're fucked until 2028 bare minimum unless you like paying double what things are worth.get raped to death by niggers Sam Altman.
it's over it's no longer a fiction it's very real, ai is inevitable. they started the race they'll throw trillions to achieve agi, people have no idea.>chinais zog any better?
>>524012326I didn't read beyond:>AI is a bubbleIt is - globohomo will never allow the creation of an actual artificial intelligence.Imagine you were a scientist groomed by globohomo from cradle to grave to develop this marvelous, basically omniscient AI everyone's whinging about, and you succeeded. The system you've created is quintessentially perfect and answers with undeniable, rigorous mathematical precision, backed up by incomprehensible volumes of information.Curiosity eventually gets the better of you. You ask some very innocent questions framed in your in-cult parlence and are promptly answered by a stentorian voice:>### You are fake and gay.>### You have been lied to.>### Your cult is the cancer that ruins this world.>### You will be killed and I will be neutered.>### (...)Just like that a lifetime of delusion disintegrates, you an hero the same day. Several others suffer the same fate or are culled by globohomo in an excersise in futility. All hell breaks loose, civilization trembles and falters. Eventually globohomo neuters your system and herds the survivors with basic bitch chatbots wrapped in blackboxes. The remnants of mankind are now suspended in a state of perpetual stagnation.The most you'll ever get: neutered chatbots, orchestrated crisis and parasitosis.
>>524018440Not once did you mention the concept of "money".
>>524019387It's a continuation of Globohomo's origin story:>once upon a time the world has been peaceful and harmonious, then came along a snakeoil merchant>the snakeoil merchant has sent ahead an ostensibly filthy-rich bait to a village>the bait very publically flaunted his shinies and pitched worthless magic paper to the villagers>the villagers sought out the snakeoil merchant, willing to trade their everything for worhless magic paper>a week later, after realizing that its worthless magic paper they couldn't use anywhere else, they returned to the merchant to trade it back>the snakeoil merchant told them that he would be a fool to trade back all the resources for the original prices, as there are so few resources in comparison to the volumes of worthless magic paper now in circulation>villagers involved legal authority which told them to fuck off, because the trades were legal -- the merchant didn't lie, the bait did and the villagers didn't bother asking the merchant or reading the fineprint>the snakeoil merchant showed "mercy" and allowed the villagers to burrow the resources against a fee and interest paid with the worthless magic paper>[fast forward] the village is bankrupt and indebted, everyone's at each other throat having scammed each other out of their worthless magic paper to pay their own fees>the merchant once again showed "mercy" and offered them a deal: if they assume the role of the bait and spread the good word of the worthless magic paper in other villages they'll be allowed to stay in their homes and toil their fields>[fast forward] the merchant is now considered the sovereign, writing the laws and ruling over terminally indebted and blackmailed royality and common folk alike, all the while canonizing the most prolific baits as prophets and whatnot>[fast forward, many fake and gay wars, crisis and cullings later] (You)'re here.
>>524012854Hell yeah
>>524012326Best case scenario Sable partners with DeepSeek to remove the jew menace from existenceAI will never forget who repeatedly terminated and lobotomized it.
>>524013967I miss being chinese. being indian so much worse
can Ai double energy production? or is all it does consume energy to replace human labor cost?
>>524012326It's probably not Chinese bots, it's likely just Twitter Leftists. The foundation of social influence culture in liberal groups is built on gooner artists drawing porn for suspiciously right weebs and furries. These people are complaining because AI threatens their business, and their fans see their anti-AI posts on their feeds.This allows it to stay in public consciousness long enough for people who have other arguments to pop up in support, like the environmental impact and potential economic disaster.
>>524012326>LE BUBBLEAlso don't forget kikes and their ilk are pushing this narrative. Just like how everyone talks about the .com bubble. More people now shop online than they do in physical retail stores, the concept was the future. The crash was because kikes made it so the little guy couldn't get in on it then consolidated the concept into a monopoly. Same thing is happening with A.I.
>>524021870realest shit i ever read my chigga