Billions of baby chicks are put into blenders or suffocated to death in trash bags or buried alive in mass graves because they don't lay eggs and are the wrong breed for meat. This is a common practice in many countries including USA
>>524015265https://www.dominionmovement.com/watch
>>524015265>or suffocated to death in trash bags or buried alive in mass gravesdumbassthis isn't waste. this shit ends up as feed for something else. They don't bother with suffocation or mass graves; That's been posted for shock value. This grinder isn't ideal, but it's quick and humane. It's how I want to go. - at scale, or course.
>>524015265Only a Mechanical Golemic race could invent something like this
>>524015418>but she's "human" and farm animals aren't "human" so we don't have to grant them rightshttps://philosophicalvegan.com/wiki/index.php/NameTheTraitThis dialogue tree has been used by vegans many times in live debates, (feel free to comment on one of their videos, email them, message them on Instagram etc to challenge them to a debate on NTT )https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JiGT6ox0Y-Mhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gJR5vsrkr9Ahttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oQLjgo2TfcMhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrtziO8Ffc4&pp=ygUjRHIgQXZpIGRlYmF0ZSB2ZWdhbiBuYW1lIHRoZSB0cmFpdCA%3DIf someone says it's okay to kill a animal and turn them into a burger but not okay to do that to a human and the reason they give is that animals can't reason but humans can they'd have to bite the bullet and say it's okay to turn severely permanently mentally handicapped humans who can't reason into burgers. Or go vegan. Or name another trait(s)A single individual choosing to purchase meat or not purchase meat DOES make a difference. Individual boycott means the difference between life and death for between 1-900 chickensLots of evidence of thisI know individual consumer boycott does make a difference in sparing chickens lives Like in the first five minutes of this video https://youtu.be/brKhhZlUoOc?feature=sharedhe discuses a study that shows the average consumer has a 90 something percent chance of causing 1 - 900 extra chickens to be bred into existence tortured and killed.https://philarchive.org/rec/MCMAIOhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gGSmNv-8YQCastrating piglets is extremely painful just search piglet castration diy no anesthetic on YouTube and you'll find lots of videos of farmers recording themselves castrating piglets and pigs. This is very common everywhere from large factory farms to small family farms.
Why Jesus Christ created humans
>>524015265boohoo
This is so cool
>>524015480Blenders are more common but trash bags and mass graves as well as gassing are not uncommon https://m.youtube.com/shorts/soBiWx-g1r0
>>524015498Blame the brits and their materialist/utilitarian philosophy. That's where most man made horrors come from.
>>524015515Jesus was probably vegetarian https://christspiracy.com/
>>524015265You know, the ironic thing is, you only have yourself to blame. Yes. You, the consumer. Literally only votes that count in this world are the ones you cast with your money or violence. Guess what the consumer votes for? White breast meat from female birds of a very narrow range of breeds. Unironically, if you want to change this practice, just go buy some wing, thigh, or dark meats. Also, these birds are dead either way. Even if you do allow them to live to productive age for harvest, you still harvest them. So is your argument that you don't want to kill animals or that we can kill them but not the babies?
A twitch streamer was recently allegedly hugged without her consent. She says she's a victim of sexual assault and has received emotional damages, people are talking about lawsuits and extremely large amounts of money being owed to her by the man who allegedly hugged her and twitch itself for failing to adequately protect her. The laws in the United States seem to be written in such a litigious way she may have a case and be owed hundreds of thousands of dollars.But this twitch streamer who was allegedly assaulted isn't vegan. She regularly pays for hens to be debeaked without anesthetic, male chicks to be thrown into blenders on their birthday, piglets to be castrated without anesthetic, pigs to be put in gas chambers, cows and calves to be separated right after birth, pigs and cows to be raped / artificially inseminated, etc etc.Isn't it hypocritical for her to say she's a victim and deserves restitution (like a lawsuit and money being given to her by twitch and the man who allegedly assaulted her) and retribution ( like the man who allegedly assaulted her being imprisoned) while she is paying for so many animals to be horribly abused?I think this woman doesn't deserve a penny in restitution. I believe all of her property down to the clothes on her back should be confiscated from her, liquidated and given to HER victims.https://animalcharityevaluators.org/https://sharkonline.org/http://anonymousforthevoiceless.org/>but murder isn't that badALL MURDERERS SHOULD DIE IN PRISON.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OR_Bn9SRXNU>but how do you know animals can feel pain?We can assume other adults, children and some animals can feel pain based on things like brain structures they have and behaviors. Claiming pigs, piglets, cows etc can't feel pain is really no different then claiming babies who are circumcised without anesthetic can't feel pain. (Obviously it's also immoral with anesthetic)
>>524016018Debeaking is common in factory farms.Animals being selectively bred to grow too big too fast is common.In USA, UK, Australia, etc almost all animal products come from factory farms. https://www.dominionmovement.com/watchVIDEO RELATED>>524015951I am vegan I also boycott organic vegan food because it's made with lots of animal manure which indirectly makes factory farming more profitable
>>524016018All you've done is convince me even further that women shouldn't have rights.
circumcising infants is REALLY REALLY REALLY bad, infants that are circumcised should have adults sue their circumcisers on their behalf and win them tens of millions of dollars in a trust fund for the baby.If paying for a hen to be debeaked or piglet to be castrated (both routinely done without anesthetic) is even 1/100th as bad as circumcising a baby it's really bad. Because it's so incredibly common.>>524016174I think women should have at least some rights, all beings with a significant amount of consciousness should have the right not to be locked in a pillory and have laundry detergent poured in their eyes
this is probably how aliens feel about kill us they don’t feel a thing
All men who were circumcised as babies deserve at least 150 million USA dollars adjusted for inflation / at least 44000 ounces of pure 24k gold (44000 ounces of pure 24k gold is worth 147727340 dollars on 06/03/2025).They were innocent babies and were horribly, permanently and irreversibly mutilated for their entire one life on earth before it even began.There is NO way to FULLY or even MOSTLY recover their lost foreskins and all of it's structures. Stretching does not nearly even come close to restoring it to it's original form.>Why at least 150 million USA dollars / at least 44000 ounces of pure 24k gold?Because there was a case of a adult man who merely had some mean words, drawings and jokes said to him at work. Nothing criminally illegal like death threats, leaking his social security number etc. He later quit his job at Tesla he wasn't fired. He was offered 15 million 2022 dollars for his hurt feelings by a usa judge https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/tesla-racism-lawsuit-worker-rejects-15-million-payout-rcna34655He was literally offered 15 million dollars that the government would take from Tesla and hand directly to him. He rejected it because he wanted more then 15 million 2022 dollars but the point stands the government is willing to say mean words and hurt feelings are worth at least 15 million 2022 dollars.Being circumcised as a baby is AT LEAST ten times worse.At least 150 million 2025 dollars and at least 44000 ounces of pure 24k gold is a very very deep compromise.>But anon I'm circumcised and brokeI know and you deserve better. Immediately quit your wagie job. You should never contribute to circumcisers. You deserve to be very comfortably retired NOW. A circumciser should not be richer than you unless they are bezos or musk. You should be almost infinitely richer than every american woman (circumcision is illegal in USA) unless she's Mackenzie bezos. She should be working a wagie job and serving you
>>524016456CASE #2https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2023/07/20/mcdonalds-lawsuit-hot-chicken-nugget/70436203007/A random family is in a car. These are not employees they're just random customers.They go to McDonalds drive throughMom buys nuggetsGives nuggets (corpses of tortured and mutilated animals that were factory farmed) to her little kidKid drops nugget on thighIt leaves a slight burn on thighBurn heals completely leaving a small barely noticable and not painful scar on thighGirl gets 800,000 dollars.Circumcising a baby is at least 30 times worse easily.It's obviously way way worse than 30 times but whatever let's be extremely conservativeThat's 24 million dollars or at least 7000 ounces of pure 24k gold.You deserve this.
>>524016149Well at least you're consistent. How do you feel about the fact that your entire lifestyle is only remotely possibly because of modern technology? Like, 50 years ago you would have been slowly starving to death with your diet. Today you would be too of it wasn't for products like pea protein, quality vitamins, various other designer products, and decades of nutritional research. You literally have a luxury belief. Ironically, if you convince to many people to join your designer beliefs, the system would collapse. Not in a fun way like toppling the political system or something, but in a way that the environment and economy literally wouldn't be physically capable of supporting everyone holding your views. This is the problem with people. They hold beliefs that if where widely adopted, would collapse society in one way or another. Thoughts?
>>524016522I wasn't exaggerating at all being circumcised is at least 100 times worse then mean words you volunteerly endure (you can quit job at any time) and at least 30 times worse then that girls burnall circumcisers don't get reparations. That includes doctors who perform surgeries as well as parents among others.Millions of dollars for the irreversible damages must be the priority.No circumcised man should have to choose between wage slavery and homelessness while their are circumcisers who are rich enough they can comfortably retire young.YOU DESERVE MILLIONS ACT LIKE ITQUIT YOUR JOB IMMEDIATELY.REPARATIONS OR RETRIBUTIONThere are young woman with completely intact genetalia who have never been mutilated in their lives who are very wealthy and are comfortably retired.THERE are men who had their genitals seriously mutilated permanently and irreversibly as babies who are poor and working jobs they hate to serve those women because if they don't work they'll become homeless.Quit your job today.Play Minecraft if you must.You deserve to be a multimillionaire today
>>524015835this has to be china, and it has to be a disease outbreak or something. That's material that would go into pet feed everywhere else. That's not garbage. That's money. Something is being taken out of context in this propaganda.
>>524015265Dude why kill them? Sick
>>524016522Wow. Again, you've managed to make a great argument that women shouldn't be allowed to have autonomy. Not only did she frivolously sue but kids wouldn't get their dicks chopped up if women weren't allowed to make decisions about kid dicks.
>>524015265You wouldn't need this level of factory farming if you didn't let in so many shitty brown people that need to be fed
>>524015265Circumcision is worse.
>>524015265this shit is demonic and should be banned I don't care if it would double prices (it won't btw)
>>524016279Look at those hands. At least he wasn't using a machete.
>>524015265Is this how chicken nuggets are made?
>>524015265This faggot is also spamming /tv / with this leftist pussy drivel, by the way.
>Look, mom, I posted it again!
>>524016524>Well at least you're consistent.>How do you feel about the fact that your entire lifestyle is only remotely possibly because of modern technology?It doesn't particularly bother me. I try to do my best with whatever circumstances I'm in>Like, 50 years ago you would have been slowly starving to death with your diet. Today you would be too of it wasn't for products like pea protein, quality vitamins, various other designer products, and decades of nutritional research. You literally have a luxury belief.I disagree. Supply chains and synthetic vitamin supplements help but it's certainly possible to be vegetarian people have done it for thousands of years. Oysters are technically animals but they are not conscious they have b12, iodine, animal fat like epa dha, animal protein etc etc. I'm white and can get vitamin d from the sun. >Ironically, if you convince to many people to join your designer beliefs, the system would collapse. >Not in a fun way like toppling the political system or something, but in a way that the environment and economy literally wouldn't be physically capable of supporting everyone holding your views.Where's your evidence of this? What's ACTUALLY unsustainable is feeding 8 billion people a diet of mostly pasture raised animal products. >This is the problem with people. They hold beliefs that if where widely adopted, would collapse society in one way or another.Thoughts?I think more people being vegan would increase food security.
>>524015265Who the fuck cares?
>>524016635Males cant produce eggs dummy so they are turned into mulch.
>>524016662Circumcision is also bad>>524016743Not me >>524016746I'm white and in USA. I denounce Vishnu
>>524015265>Billions of baby chicks are put into blenders or suffocated to death in trash bags or buried alive in mass graves because they don't lay eggs and are the wrong breed for meat. This is a common practice in many countries including USASo?
i denounce the talmud in its entirety every word every page every teaching i reject it all completely and forever this is my permanent irreversible total denouncement of the whole talmud i give this freely and genuinely with no coercion whatsoever i swear to god almighty that this is the whole truth and nothing but the truth under penalty of perjury i will never take back this denouncement it stands for all time as my final word on the talmud i hate what it says i hate what it stands for i want nothing to do with it ever again this is my solemn oath before god and man no part of the talmud has any value to me it is all false and wrong in my eyes i denounce it fully without reservation or exception this statement is eternal and unbreakable i mean every single word from the depths of my soul so help me god
>>524015835Jews decided that they don't need white males too TCK https://youtu.be/Yx-6-9oWxk4
i hereby solemnly and permanently denounce vishnu krishna and the entire religion of hinduism in all its forms teachings gods practices and beliefs i completely reject and renounce every part of hinduism forever with no possibility of reversal or return this denouncement is total absolute and irreversible i freely and genuinely make this statement of my own will without any coercion or influence i swear to god almighty under penalty of perjury that this is the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help me god this denouncement stands for all time and cannot be undone or changed in any way i fully and finally separate myself from hinduism vishnu krishna and all associated deities scriptures temples rituals and followers this is my permanent irrevocable complete rejection of the whole hindu faith
>>524015265>>524015418>NOT THE HECKIN CHICKERINOS
>>524015480>mass gravesthe 6 millions! Think about them bubbeleh !
>>524017072Only if you let them>But but but if I quit my wagie job and stop helping circumcisers I'll become homeless and have no money!!Maybe or maybe not. Doesn't matter don't be a pussy.In Minecraft if you want to be the ultimate Minecraft neetGet a bow and arrowsGet a chestGet a small shovelGet a Minecraft mod to get Silica Gel Packets Desiccant things they only cost a few emeralds in the modGo to a place NOT NEAR YOUR BASE if someone makes it so you can't even go within 500 blocks of your base you still need to be able to access your chestDig a deep holePut bow and arrow, at least a couple hundred emeralds and the Silica Gel Packets Desiccant things in your chest. Optionally also add stuff like a small sword.Close chest up very tightly.Put chest at bottom of hole and cover with dirt blocks.WHEN YOU GO TO SPOT WHERE YOU WILL BURY THE CHEST LEAVE YOUR MAP AND COMPASS AT YOUR BASE DON'T BRING THEM WITH YOU. IF YOU HAVE A PHONE MOD OR MODERN CAR MOD DON'T BRING THOSE WITH YOU EITHERfinal stepIf you ever become homeless or whatever in Minecraft go dig up your chest and do PvP before jumping into lavaIf you are making a stash in Minecraft don't bury it at your Minecraft base you live at in game bury it somewhere like a public park in the Minecraft server and make sure you bury it somewhere easy to find like next to some sort of landmark in the server.Make sure to keep in mind how deep you bury it like how many blocks and what the frost line is if you have the frost line mod installed on the server. Obviously at least quadruple bag it if you have the plastic bag mods on the server with some very strong airtight bags from the mod and put plenty of dehydrating packets in each bag if you have a desiccant mod
>>524015265What are they making here? What would have all those bones and eggshells in it?
>>524016813Well first off, carrying capacity of humans on this planet is likely around 2 billion. Anything past that and you need to start making big environmental compromises. Vegetarian diets are often reserved for religious sects through history. You're ignoring things such as the nutritional content of your food decreasing since the advent of modern agriculture, race based diets (no, seriously), and basic nutrition practices like eating a seasonal diet and any preserved foods you eat out of season would be either alcoholic in nature, or heavy in probiotics. You're also making an argument in other posts against animal agriculture of any kind while also forgetting that things like pellet fertilizers, monocropping, and prepping ag land does serious and permanent damage to the environment. Without animals on the land scape in some form you don't have a complete cycle and will need more harmful practices, not less. There's a big reason why agriculture is coming back around to crop rotation, cover crops, and most importantly, animal agriculture on the landscape. Face it, you have a luxury belief. Your entire lifestyle is fake and at odds with nature.
>>524017232It's hypocritical that Jews and shitlibs cry so much about the Holocaust and six million but ignore the over one million children aborted in USA every year and billions of animals tortured to death in factory farms every year. >the pre born aren't conscious and abortion isn't immoral until the 2nd or third trimesterNope.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zkH3vrevU9ohttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=brKhhZlUoOchttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VIwWhdvrYREThe earliest case for which I believe the precautionary principle should hold was around 43-45 days. Which comes out to be 6.1-6.4 weeks.The fetal brain begins to develop around 3-5 weeks gestation. So I am okay with abortions prior to that timeframe.It's hard to say what the levels of sentience equate to at each week. But I wouldn't not assume this is a miniscule amount of sentience. Many EEG brain patterns observed in fetal brains as early as 6.1-6.4 weeks ( high voltageslow waves with superimposed fast activity) are comparable to mature birds, mature frogs, mature rabbits and the mature marmot. We can even observe sleep spindles in the fetal brain this early.Does this prove the same degree of sentience? No. Does this give us reason to take the precautionary principle with respect to this degree of sentience? Yeshttps://www.dominionmovement.com/watchhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ugWMVqkRuj4
I find the ruthless efficiency of modern slaughterhouses morbidly fascinating.
>>524015905Jesus ate fish
>>524017279Because they just hatched >>524017379>Well first off, carrying capacity of humans on this planet is likely around 2 billion. Anything past that and you need to start making big environmental compromises.Okay? So make the big environmental compromises or reduce the population by encouraging people to have less children. If respecting animal rights requires at least one of those then so be it. Just like if respecting human rights required at least one of those then so be it. >Vegetarian diets are often reserved for religious sects through history.Yes. Lots of people ate mostly vegetarian or vegan just because they were poor too>You're ignoring things such as the nutritional content of your food decreasing since the advent of modern agriculture,This exists but it's not too bad. Yes strawberries don't always contain iodine, etc etc but plants will simply not grow before they become very nutritionally deficient >race based diets (no, seriously), and basic nutrition practices like eating a seasonal diet and any preserved foods you eat out of season would be either alcoholic in nature, or heavy in probiotics.. you're also making an argument in other posts against animal agriculture of any kind while also forgetting that things like pellet fertilizers, monocropping, and prepping ag land does serious and permanent damage to the environment. Without animals on the land scape in some form you don't have a complete cycle and will need more harmful practices, not less. It's complete if you do things like use synthetic fertilizers or inject nitrogen into the soil. >There's a big reason why agriculture is coming back ... belief. Your entire lifestyle is fake and at odds with nature.I disagree it's a luxury belief, vegan diets are cheaper then omnivorous or carnivore diets. I think nature is not intrinsically good and wild animal suffering is the worst thing in the world.
>>524015265You will never be a herbivore.
>>524015905https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IgKI-3zUXWw
>>524017851I agree! I'm an opportunistic eater just like you
>>524015265K
>>524018022>I'm an opportunistic eater just like you"It is interesting to note that humans, uniquely among the primates so far considered, appear to have stomach pH values more akin to those of carrion feeders than to those of most carnivores and omnivores. In the absence of good data on the pH of other hominoids, it is difficult to predict when such an acidic environment evolved. Baboons (Papio spp) have been argued to exhibit the most human–like of feeding and foraging strategies in terms of eclectic omnivory, but their stomachs – while considered generally acidic (pH = 3.7) – do not exhibit the extremely low pH seen in modern humans (pH = 1.5). One explanation for such acidity may be that carrion feeding was more important in humans (and more generally hominin) evolution than currently considered to be the case [...]" - ["The Evolution of Stomach Acidity and Its Relevance to the Human Microbiome" (2015)](https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0134116)
>>524015265>>524015418get farmed scrubs
>>524018284>This actually reinforces opportunism: We're flexible feeders who could safely exploit risky, high-reward foods (like occasional carrion) when available, without relying on it exclusively. True obligate carnivores (e.g., cats) or scavengers (e.g., vultures) lack that broad flexibility.
>>524018489>>524017278
>>524018284>Carnivores in the study (generalists like lions or wolves) average higher pH (~2.2) than humans—our acidity is scavenger-like, not a perfect carnivore match.>Other human traits scream omnivory: intermediate gut length, generalized teeth, amylase genes for starch digestion, efficient absorption of both plant and animal nutrients.>No scientific source reclassifies humans as carnivores or scavengers based on this one trait; it's cited as evidence of past dietary flexibility in an opportunistic omnivore lineage.
>>524015265Man the life review of the ones who pushed the buttons alongside their bosses will be the worst possible like Sisyphus pushing the boulder, imagine getting a POV of every single baby chick you had killed over months, years even decades feeling all the shit they felt over and over again in a realm where everything feels timeless
>>524018683Yes even if hell isn't eternal it'll be very unpleasant for factory farming workers. https://benthams.substack.com/p/universalism-a-comprehensive-defense?utm_source=publication-search
>>524015265>>524015418This is how the aliens will treat us.
>>524018528what, i was making a moba jokelel ur country is spending taxes on mutilating baby cocks
>>524018877Maybe that's just projection
>>524018906Many states no longer cover routine circumcision! There's still many more states to go and lots of effective charities that are working towards reducing and ending ithttps://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/cwu8DZpZKQbry2hp9/best-anti-infant-circumcision-charityIt's very possible that you can prevent a baby boy from being circumcised for a few dollars or less.Donate to these all of which I believe are legitAt least one of them accepts crypto. All accept debit cards.https://pastebin.com/vL8DVFfBMaybe don't donate to these ^^^ charities now if you don't want to get doxxed by having your donation and 4 chan posting linked together. Maybe wait like a week before you donate so it isn't obvious. Not 100% sure it's anonymous
>>524019237I'm going to try to give 50 dollars to each of those three links soonish . (150 dollars in total)My only reservation was that it didn't make a difference like voting but I no longer think that's a good enough excuse here's an unrelated example whyHow can I donate in a way that I know my donation will be the difference between an extra human or animal being saved/spared and not being saved/spared.For example if I vote in an election or stay home it'll make no difference. Of course I think people should still vote but if me donating a relatively small amount (less then 5 thousand let's say) to a specific charity or not donating will not make any difference then I'm not terribly motivated to donate.I know against malaria foundation sends you an email about six months after your donation telling you where your donation funded nets for.Is there any other charities like this? Or do I have to get creative and do things like buy ads and billboards to advertise the dominion documentary and whatnot?I know individual consumer boycott does make a difference in sparing chickens lives Like in the first five minutes of this video https://youtu.be/brKhhZlUoOc?feature=shared [Open] he discuses a study that shows the average consumer has a 90 something percent chance of causing 1 - 900 extra chickens to be bred into existence tortured and killed.https://philarchive.org/rec/MCMAIOBut I'm not sure if an individual donating a relatively small (less than 5k) to charity or not donating to charity has the same effect for saving or sparing animals or humans.I want to know the most certain donation both for helping humans and the most certain donation for helping animals (mammals and or birds).By certain I mean most likely that it will make an impact unlike me voting in a presidential election or staying home. Whatever donation is least likely to be like voting.
>>524019263Here's someone else's response that changed my mindIt sounds like you want to be the one who creates a tipping point. E.g. in your election analogy, if 51/100 people voted for your preferred candidate, you'd want to be the 51st person who made the difference between them winning and losing. Or if it cost $5000 to save a life (every time, not on average), you'd want to be sure you donated the 5000th dollar.That's totally understandable (if I'm interpreting you correctly), but I'm not sure it's a helpful way of thinking about things in this case.Yes, marginal cost effectiveness is important— that's why we think about neglectedness. But once you've selected a cost effective charity, the usefulness of the concept breaks down a bit. (At least in IMO).Sure, perhaps in some sense the 5000th dollar is more valuable than the other 4999, because it ticked the counter over. But it wouldn't have been the 5000th dollar if the first dollar hadn't been donated. In that sense, each dollar is equally valuable— they all have an equal chance of creating that tipping point.That's why we think probabilistically. It's impossible to know ahead of time which dollar will make the marginal difference. So we look for the charities which give the best odds. That's part of what GiveWell does— their recommended charities are ones they think can make the best use of marginal funding.At that point, every dollar counts, whether it's the 1st or the 5000th. This is a team effort, and your contributions aren't less valuable just because someone else happened to give the final dollar <3
>>524015265How is this disturbing
>>524015265SO WHAT? usless eaters, kinda like liberal democrats. we should grind them up too
>>524019351It is obvious to non psychopaths or perhaps you're just desensitized because you've already witnessed so much suffering death and violence Less animal suffering and death is caused by buying bread then buying beef (including grass fed and pasture raised)https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WJoVbNTu6Pchttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZOymBp1vvkhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=brKhhZlUoOchttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s91z2a4obPIhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aKubphZfLvQhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nZEu9B67MBIhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Aemowmo8iNk
>>524019351Because they're silly little chickens being ground into dust. More sad than anything.
It's very possible that you can prevent a baby boy from being circumcised for a few dollars or less.Donate to these all of which I believe are legitAt least one of them accepts crypto. All accept debit cards.https://pastebin.com/vL8DVFfBMaybe don't donate to these ^^^ charities now if you don't want to get doxxed by having your donation and 4 chan posting linked together. Maybe wait like a week before you donate so it isn't obvious. Not 100% sure it's anonymous
Free carnival ride!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFQhn8RW0Nk&t=48s
>>524019422When I was a kid my mother's friend took me to a river to help me drop a sack with kittens in it. It might sound cruel but the world and nature are cruel. If you don't have money to take care of the kittens you'll just spread more misery. It just has to be done.>>524019558Maybe if you're not used to living in a village. Otherwise you would be used to killing animals. Chopping off a chicken's head and seeing its body run around for a minute.Humans are still predators, it doesn't matter if you like it or not.
>>524019558Yes and individual boycott makes a difference! https://benthams.substack.com/p/the-causal-inefficacy-objection-is?utm_source=publication-searchAn individual consumer choosing to buy meat regularly for the next few years or choosing to be vegan for the next few years does make a difference. It probably means the difference between many more animals being bred into existence and tortured their whole life in a factory farm or being spared this fate and never bred into existence.https://benthams.substack.com/p/the-causal-inefficacy-objection-is?utm_source=publication-searchhttps://www.reddit.com/r/DebateAVegan/comments/1otuhqv/individual_boycott_of_meat_does_matter/https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateAVegan/comments/1otuhqv/individual_boycott_of_meat_does_matter/
>>524015265Can this be put into a drink and be marketed as 100% all natural chicken based proteins?
>>524019764They don't have to be bred
>>524015265They're all male chicks. >wrong breed for meat.Bullshit. They can half the available chicken meat by culling half the chickens. Otherwise the price of chickens would drop dramatically and it would fail to be profitable.
>>524019851>They're all male chicks.Yes>wrong breed for meat.>Bullshit. They can half the available chicken meat by culling half the chickens. Otherwise the price of chickens would drop dramatically and it would fail to be profitable.You don't know what you're talking about
>>524019764>Maybe if you're not used to living in a village.There's a difference between hunting to survive and this factory farming stuff. I understand hunting a deer or cutting the head off a chicken, but I dunno. Something is just very wrong about animals being treated like assembly line materials. It's inhuman. More savage than just killing the damn things the way we always have like what you mentioned.
>>524019995Don't forget the selective breeding to grow too big too fast causing their legs to give out, osteoporosis from being bred to lay eggs too often etc etc
>>524019845If you have a female cat in a village its pregnancy is pretty much inevitable. And if you're talking about the OP video, well, we don't know anything. They might be infected with bird flu or something, happens all the time. And if not I'm sure their remains are still used for something, factories hate waste. Even bones of killed animals are used for things like fertilizer. >>524019995Too many humans and they all need to be fed. Or you'd rather starve? That being said I don't think those animals suffer much. Western food factories try to use least painful methods possible.
>>524019995Cool story bruh. You ever actually raise chickens?
>>524016627Except that it isn't and factory farming is simply an abhorrent part of modern culture. you can keep whinging on about "context" and "propaganda" but I worked for Tyson on a factory farm and I literally couldn't handle it. They're brutal. You need 3rd worldy subsaharans with 0 feelings to do that kind of work.
>>524020217Killing something you're not attached to is easier yea
>>524020215No. The OP video is standard practice. It happens to billions of male chicks every year because they don't lay eggs.
>>524015265I have my own chickens for eggs. I do not take part in this system.
>>524020265I've worked in a slaughter house (cattle). Hard work, but not brutal.
>>524015265basedat least chicken is cheap
>>524020217Yes. They're stupid, but endearing. Not all of us are soulless husks. I don't relish in killing any of them if it comes down to it.>>524020310Only way I could see you'd be used to it.
>>524020353The breeder you brought them from might
>>524020336I don't think that's true. I worked in a few food production factories and that's a huge waste not a single company would do. It's inefficient and a loss of profits.
>>524020556Why do you think some countries have banned male chick culling? Why do you think animal agriculture lobbies to keep this practice legal?
>>524015500>YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW MY ARBITRARY ETHICS BASED ON "SENTIENCE" BECAUSE YOU DOOh hey, you’re the dog fucker that got repeatedly btfo on /an/ and perma’d repeatedly for arguing that bestiality is moral on /trash/. Recognize this poster, /pol/. He is a known zoophile. Similar to aluzky if not him, he thinks everyone has to follow his contrived religion (that lacks a metaphysical ought beyond “being logically good is good because if you arent anyone can do anything they want” which only works if literally everyone is a psychopath and majored in philosophy) and his religion is a logical trap that says you have to allow bestiality if you eat meat. That is the long and short of it. /an/ calls him vegan schizo. To say humans are the center of the moral universe is every bit as arbitrary but also aligns with almost every religion and human instinct so, he loses automatically.
I don't want to burst your bubble but I think the blender is the good ending. You really don't want to be the hen.
>>524019422Psychopathy does not have livestock culling in its conditions and never has. Humans have killed and eaten animals for two million years. Our biology requires and is adapted to it. Oversocialized people conditioned on disney cartoons are irrelevant to this.
>>524020556Raising male chickens into young birds for meat has problems. They try to kill one another.
>>524020750>Oh hey, you’re the dog fucker that got repeatedly btfo on /an/ and perma’d repeatedly for arguing that bestiality is moral on /trash/.Not me.>lacks a metaphysical ought beyond “being logically good is good because if you arent anyone can do anything they want”Here's One. It's called utilitarianism https://benthams.substack.com/p/moral-realism-is-true?utm_source=publication-search
>>524015265I need this machine for poojeets
>>524020888Just put them in cages like we used to do.
Industrialized meat production is pretty fucked up no matter how you slice it.Take the time to contact a nearby rancher, go and visit if you can, and get your meat from them. Not only is it just morally and culturally superior in every way, happy animals also taste way better than those poor miserable creatures in the factory farms, and are more nutritious.
>>524020915>>524020750>repeatedly btfo on /an/ Anyone else itt can review the debate(s) for themselves and come to their own conclusions. You are bad faith and a waste of time https://desuarchive.org/an/thread/5071163/#q5071209
>>524020915You dont believe in god. There is no metaphysical ought. End of. Being good according to your own rules is valueless. Without a system to the universe such as karma or a ruler-creator such as god all value judgements are relative and arbitrary. Even being consistent is reduced simply to a social manipulation tactic. Consistency’s only value is in doing what other people already expect of you. If other peoples expectations and instincts, feelings, are not consistent with your arbitrary philosophy you are only being an idiot and patting yourself on the back for it. Also, yes, you are a dog fucker. A janny lost his job to tell us.
>>524020442I bought mine locally. Nice try kike.
>>524019764>When I was a kid my mother's friend took me to a river to help me drop a sack with kittens in it.Wow no wonder eastern euros are psychopaths
>>524020265>Tysonsay no moreI'm not actually shilling factory farming. I know it's horrible and inhumane and terrible and gory, and I just don't fucking care. Until the government isn't controlled by Israel, every farm animal on earth can be tortured. I don't care. this is a stupid thread.
>>524020929Industrial wood shredder.Beware, the byproduct of disassembling pajeets is a biohazard and at the industrial level is an environmental hazard. The EPA will be up your ass.
>>524020803pretty fucked up but you're probably right lol
>>524021098Your VPN hopping tells me that your usual IP is permanently banned from all boards. But a janny already lost his job to tell us on /an/ that you were a dog fucker he was sick of banning. How much you pay leto to post? $10? Extra for more stable IPs?
>>524020929Little male jeetlets straight into the blender
>>524021024Costly when you're setup to sell eggs. Most of these farms may not even have space for that.
>>524015500I can never decide if it would be more satisfying to kill libertarians or vegans
>>524021240I’m also against factory farming but this dog fucking vegan schizos philosophizing is patently absurd. He believes bestiality is morally right. He believes he would kill a farmer to save 1000 cows. He believes it is more moral to kill 1000 unborn fetuses than "more sentient" chimps. His beliefs are flat out evil and he worships at the altar of an absent god and preaches from an unwritten bible. Curiously EVERY SINGLE ARGUMENT HE MAKES IS 1:1 IDENTICAL TO ALUZKY’S "GO VEGAN OR LET ME FUCK A DOG" RANTS. Even a pragmatic chink with no principles is more respectable.
I'm not even vegan, or vegetarian, but anyone who sees this and doesn't see snything wrong with it is fucked up in the head, simple as.A normal person would see a newly hatched chick as a being to be nurtured, not as s thing to be roughly handled, thrown into a cold machine away from its mother and processed mercilessly.I agree with the other anons, only a mechanistic, materialist, golemic person would see nothing wrong with this.
>>524015265Its okay, they only do this to the males. No one gives a shit about males.
>>524018503>We're flexible feedersNo, we're scavengers. Carrion eaters.We have a more acidic gastric juice than any other scavenger because we eat older carrion with a higher bacterial load.>our acidity is scavenger-like, not a perfect carnivore matchScavengers are a subset of carnivores.>occasional carrionDo you have any idea how hard it is to protect stomach lining from hydrochloric acid? This kind of expensive adaptation is not for "occasional" anything.>efficient absorption of both plant and animal nutrientsYou're an idiot. Carbs/plants are inflammatory to us, and only useful to delay starvation during periods of famine.>past dietary flexibility in an opportunistic omnivore lineageAgriculture and its consequences are only 12,000 years old and have been a disaster for the human species.Physiological past is physiological present.We are not omnivores. We never have been. We never will be.You want proof? Stop eating carbs and see your chronic inflammation disappear in a few months.
>>524021486sometimes I go on reddit and find a particularly gay post (not hard to do) and reply,>Hey, aren't you that guy who fucks your dog? I remember your post on /r/offmychest. You still doing that shit?and the other redditors will dogpile them almost every time while they desperately try to defend themselves lmao
>>524021528Yes, most people don't understand where their food comes from and the nasty moral compromises required to feed several billion people. It's why we hide this info from you, because it does cause psychological damage, but the alternative is to starve the rest of the world.
>>524021581What does being an omnivore (eating meat and vegetables/fruit/etc) have to do with carbs and grains/rice/beans?
>>524015265Well eventually with enough selection like this the rate of males will probably naturally shift to favor hens more. You can thank the demiurge.
>>524015265That's why you pray over-your-food. For the creatures that provide your sustenance.
>>524021528Birds are hard to care about. They are a sort of vermin, often classified as a bug by leas educated peoples, and have been a primary food source for ages. Children naturally kill them for fun.The shredder offers them an instant death. It is impossible to give a fuck about instant death for something that is even dumber than a chicken. The continuous torture of hens is a more concerning demonstration of poor innate moral character (humans, as super-predators, evolved to kill healthy prey swiftly and be disturbed by sickness and struggle), poses an outsized public safety risk (zoonoses) and creates a more fragile food supply. That part is bad all around. People who constantly torture hens are probably a bit fucked up, and this is self evident without any fake religion needed from that vpn hopping dog fucker.
I have never seen a kike swinging a rooster over its head...
>>524015265That's brutal. We do it much more humanely here in Germany. We have these tiny chick sized gas chambers.
>>524021689>What does being an omnivore (eating meat and vegetables/fruit/etc)Being an omnivore is not a choice.Dogs and cats are carnivores, yet we feed them plants so full of carbs that they get diabetes. This does not make them omnivores, only malnourished.It's the same with humans. Subsistence agriculture brought widespread malnourishment.
>>524021111Moral realism is possible even if God doesn't exist. Something can still be morally obligatory even if it doesn't benefit you. I'm agnostic. Presuppositionalism is a joke you don't need God for 2 + 2 = 4 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LyL7rMfJ7lAMoral realism is the view that there are objective moral facts or truths—statements like "torturing innocents for fun is wrong" or "kindness is good" can be true independently of anyone's opinions, cultures, or personal preferences. These facts exist in a mind-independent way, much like mathematical truths (e.g., 2+2=4) or certain scientific facts.The common assumption that moral realism requires God (or some supernatural mechanism like karma) stems from the idea that objective moral norms need a transcendent "grounding" or enforcer to be binding and real. Without a divine commander or cosmic justice system, morals might seem arbitrary or reducible to mere human invention. However, this isn't necessary. Moral realism can hold in a purely naturalistic universe through several approaches:1. **Non-naturalistic moral realism**: Moral facts are real but exist as irreducible, non-natural properties or brute facts of the universe. Philosophers like Erik Wielenberg argue for "godless normative realism," where basic ethical truths (e.g., "pain is bad" or "causing unnecessary suffering is wrong") are fundamental and necessary, not derived from God or anything supernatural. These facts are sui generis (in their own category), similar to how logical or mathematical truths don't need a creator to exist. They just are, eternally and objectively. Positing God doesn't automatically solve the grounding problem either (due to dilemmas like Plato's Euthyphro: is something good because God commands it, or does God command it because it's good?). So, non-theistic versions avoid supernatural baggage while maintaining objectivity.
>>524021742Do people still do this. I haven't seen anybody appreciate the life that sustains them. I do forget to do that, but doing so in public feels strange at this point.
>>5240211112. **Naturalistic moral realism**: Moral facts are reducible to or constituted by natural facts about the world, discoverable through science and reason. For example: - Moral goodness could supervene on natural properties like human well-being, flourishing, or cooperative social structures (e.g., views inspired by Aristotle's virtue ethics or evolutionary biology). - Philosophers like Richard Boyd or Nicholas Sturgeon (Cornell realists) argue that moral properties are like scientific ones: real, causally efficacious, and part of the natural world, explaining why certain actions promote thriving lives.In both cases, no God or karma is required because moral facts can be self-standing or emergent from reality itself. The universe contains reasons for action built into its structure—e.g., unnecessary suffering is objectively bad because it contradicts rational flourishing.### Utilitarianism and Intrinsic GoodsUtilitarianism is a prime example of a normative ethical theory (what we ought to do) that aligns well with moral realism without needing God or karma. It holds that the right action is the one that maximizes overall good (typically happiness or well-being) and minimizes harm.- Classic utilitarianism (e.g., Jeremy Bentham and John Stuart Mill) identifies **pleasure** (or happiness, broadly including absence of pain) as the primary **intrinsic good**—something valuable in itself, not just as a means to something else. All other goods (money, health, achievements) are instrumental: good only because they produce pleasure.- Modern versions often expand this to a pluralistic list of intrinsic goods, including **meaningful relationships**, knowledge, beauty, autonomy, and achievement. These are objectively valuable because they contribute to human (and sentient) flourishing in ways that are discoverable empirically and rationally.
>>524021111Under utilitarian moral realism:- Intrinsic goods like pleasure exist as natural features of conscious experience. Pleasure feels good by its very nature, and this provides an objective reason to pursue it and avoid pain.- Relationships are intrinsically good because deep, authentic connections (love, friendship, trust) produce profound well-being that's not reducible to mere sensation—they involve emotional fulfillment, mutual growth, and shared meaning.- Actions are objectively right or wrong based on their consequences for these goods: promoting pleasure and relationships is good; causing needless pain or isolation is bad.This is realist because the value of pleasure/relationships isn't subjective or invented—it's grounded in the facts of sentient experience and what rationally promotes thriving lives. We can know these truths through reflection, empathy, and evidence (e.g., psychology shows relationships correlate with lasting happiness far more than fleeting pleasures).In short, even in a godless, karma-free universe, moral truths can be objective because they arise from necessary features of reality: the badness of suffering, the goodness of well-being, and the intrinsic worth of experiences like pleasure and connection. Utilitarianism illustrates this by tying morality directly to these natural, intrinsic goods without supernatural enforcement.
>You got a problem with putting billions of animals through hellish torture throughout their entire short, miserable, hopeless lives? Moralist much?>IS THAT.... A CHINK EATING A RAT ALIVE???? YAMETE!!! AND BOILING A DOGGERINO?? TH-THIS IS... THIS IS INHUMANE.. THIS IS WRONG... A HWITE MAN LIKE ME WOULD NEVER BE SO CRUEL...
>>524021486>He believes bestiality is morally right.No that's not me. You are bad faith. >He believes he would kill a farmer to save 1000 cows.Yes>He believes it is more moral to kill 1000 unborn fetuses than "more sentient" chimps.If the fetuses are only a few days old yes.
>>524021528Chickens actually suck and I feel no caring love for them at all. I spent some time on a chicken farm
>>524021760That old goat gets all the chicks.
>>524021760What a treat!
Doing unto "others" is not specific.Do to God's "other" creatures as you would have "Gods-Others" do-to-you...Think about that, a 30 foot tall Giant, feeding you into a chipper/shredder?
Ass above, soo below
>>524021742So I can be an alcoholic with a fucked up liver and just murder random humans and steal their liver and implant it in myself as long as I pray thank you afterwards?
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>>524021871Your post is generated by chatGPT. Disregarded, ya VPN hopping permabanned dog fucker. I will instead repeat myself. Without metaphysical consequence all values range from fully arbitrary to goal relative. You follow a made up religion. ChatGPT wont save you. A value without god must have a grounding like "my bloodline/race/nation must persist and prosper, and natural selection favors those who agree with me". Otherwise its a union of egoists with extra, dishonest steps. Also, you would rather kill a fetus than a chimp, and believe bestiality is fine if the animal isnt hurt, AND would kill a man to save 1000 cows. You are evil. Sorry mate. Go be a dog fucker somewhere else, aluzky.
>>524021855There's plenty of examples of healthy vegan cats and dogs
>>524022006>through hellish tortureTwo seconds of pain before oblivion, vs several hours of torture. The point is minimizing, not removal. Cattle are easy, gas powered press direct to the temple. One second here, next second gone. But, don't have the problem of taking out thousands in an hour.
>>524022012>>He believes he would kill a farmer to save 1000 cows.>YesYou are not an animal lover. You are a human hater.
>>524022197>There's plenty of examples of healthy vegan cats and dogsHow retarded are you?
>>524022012You lie here but I believe the confessor and I notice you make the same arguments as aluzky. Under your system, is it moral to have sex with an animal if the animal enjoys it, comes to no harm, and is not coerced? Answer. you would already rather kill babies than dumb animals and murder a man to stop him from turning fucking cattle into beef. Let your satanism flow.
>>524021684There's plenty of space in the world where one could expand if needed. The population is already declining everywhere anyway, and plenty of food is straight up thrown away because it rots.i am sure a better system could be designed at the expense of some convenience and slightly higher prices. Personally I wouldn't mind eating mostly mussels as my main meat source with a bit of beef in between.>>524021763That too. But I personally love birds, I have a large green backyard and Inlove peacefully watching pidgeons, and other dumb birds just "graze" under the sunlight.I don't think it's fair how they are treated at all
>>524022240>He believes he would kill a mohel to save 1000 babies from being circumcised.>Yes>You are not an intactivist. You are a jew hater.
>>524022328"Surprisingly, the children who were given the soup containing meat each day seemed to have a significant edge. By the end of the study, they outperformed all the other children on a test for non-verbal reasoning." - [https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200127-how-a-vegan-diet-could-affect-your-intelligence](https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200127-how-a-vegan-diet-could-affect-your-intelligence)
>>524016890damn :(
>>524022328You compared babies to cattle and jews to farmers who provide us with meat. You are getting increasingly satanic. Answer the dog fucking question. A hotty rotty flags you, you give the dog a bone, she practically backs into it, she likes you even more and there is no injury or illness. Did you do something wrong?Under my morals, yes, and you should be killed. How about yours?
>>524022328"In this work, we tested the hypothesis that oral creatine supplementation (5 g d(-1) for six weeks) would enhance intelligence test scores and working memory performance in 45 young adult, vegetarian subjects in a double-blind, placebo-controlled, cross-over design. Creatine supplementation had a significant positive effect (p < 0.0001) on both working memory (backward digit span) and intelligence (Raven's Advanced Progressive Matrices), both tasks that require speed of processing." - ["Oral creatine monohydrate supplementation improves brain performance: a double-blind, placebo-controlled, cross-over trial" (2003)](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14561278/)
>>524015418why didn't the nazi build this instead of burning 6 million bodies.
>>524022328"Approximately half of this creatine lost to creatinine can be replaced, in omnivorous individuals, by dietary creatine. However, since dietary creatine is only provided in animal products, principally in meat and fish, virtually all of the creatine loss in vegetarians must be replaced via endogenous synthesis. Creatine synthesis does not appear to place a major burden on glycine metabolism in adults since this amino acid is readily synthesized. However, creatine synthesis does account for approximately 40% of all of the labile methyl groups provided by S-adenosylmethionine (SAM) and, as such, places an appreciable burden on the provision of such methyl groups, either from the diet or via de novo methylneogenesis. Creatine synthesis consumes some 20-30% of arginine's amidino groups, whether provided in the diet or synthesized within the body. Creatine synthesis is, therefore, a quantitatively major pathway in amino acid metabolism and imposes an appreciable burden on the metabolism of methionine and of arginine." - ["The metabolic burden of creatine synthesis" (2011)](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21387089/)
>>524015265nuggies!
>>524022300>Under your system, is it moral to have sex with an animal if the animal enjoys it, comes to no harm, and is not coerced? Answer.No. That is immoral. Just as it'd be immoral for a human to have sex with another human in a coma. Or for an adult to have sex with a child. Or for an IVF doctor to lie to his female patient and inseminate her with his own sperm. Ironically the real bestiality is supported by non vegans who pay for animals to be artificially inseminated and masturbated by humans in the animal agriculture industries. >you would already rather kill babies than dumb animalsA unborn fetus that is a few days old and not conscious is not a "baby".>and murder a Nazi to stop him from turning fucking jews into soap. Let your satanism flow.You are bad faith. I'm done with you
>>524015265I think about this periodically and it horrifies and sickens me in a way that almost nothing else can. It is one of the big reasons I can not and will not ever eat factory farmed meat. Anyone who believes in God and allows this to exist and decides it is not a deal breaker because they choose to have convenient taste is a bad person. This is as close to irredeemable as it gets short of blaspheming the Holy Spirit
>>524015265Curiously, how do they separate the Egg shells from the juicy Chickslop?I do not condone this btw, but I WILL eat it.
>>524022614Oh, so you’re just an idiot. And a liar. Your VPN hops tell me all I need to know. You are banned. RANGE banned. The janitor did not lie. You are a dogfucker. Your absurd morals support nothing else.
>>524022197Gorillas are fucking ripped and they don't eat meat.that's why I eat Gorilla Chow every day and I'm fucking huge
>>524022614It took you a very long time to try and come up with this but in doing so you accidentally named the trait. You’re satanic so you’d eat coma patients and downies I guess!I have no traits to name. Humanity is self evident. You fuck dogs.
>>524022326>There's plenty of space in the world where one could expand if needed.WrongDeforestation is the result of expansion, we need an agriculture tech upgrade like pulling nitrogen out of the air to expand our food supply.>food rotFrsh food is important for preserving nutrients. We could can everything, but it all tastes worse because the process destroys what we need. Same for freezing and preservatives are poison.>population declineFuture scenario, still have to feed people today.
>>524022765>Ingredients >Vitamin b12 supplement
>Bot thread
>>524015835Throwing them in the trash instead of making nuggets is a wastw. But still, the rats at the garbage dumpster will wat the chicks when they die, Life goes on.
>>524022824The trait is >Has a significant amount of consciousness OR once had a significant amount of consciousness AND also has the potential for consciousness This includes coma patients but does not include two day old unborn human fetuses. What's a significant amount of consciousness? Which animals are conscious enough to be morally valuable? All animals that are at least as conscious as the least conscious human being who is morally valuable.
>>524022964Bots can't solve the new captcha, though
>>524015265What do you think should be done with the males? You only need a few roosters to impregnate the females. And most chicken meat we eat is from the hens.
>>524019764Tranny mindset
>>524022964They won't let us use them, anyway. May as well destroy their best weapon against us. This revolution is going to be hard without navigation. People are gonna be yelling "MARCH ON THE CAPITOL!" and people will be looking for the best route with the least traffic, but waze will be unreachable. Google and Apple maps will be down, too. So they'll go home and wait for the drones. I wish I had more faith in my fellow Americans. When they come to exterminate us, they will volunteer, thinking they'll be shown mercy.
>>524016522>https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2023/07/20/mcdonalds-lawsuit-hot-chicken-nugget/70436203007/400,000 pay-out to Niggers&Jews...White people get a coupon for a free happy-meal?
>>524023235fryers
>>524022824>Humanity is self evidentWhich is why you've NEVER been able to define it or answer numerous questions about it in all previous threads?These were a train wreck (for YOU)https://desuarchive.org/an/thread/5066088/#q5068132https://desuarchive.org/an/thread/5066088/#q5068141>It does not matter that you can't define human.It does if you want to be taken seriously.
>>524022515because it never happened i guess. seriously though, a blender out on a cliffside dumping into the Baltic would have been way more efficient then all of the shower is, death roller coasters, and lion&eagle chambers
>>524022842Population is already in decline, and it would continue if we didn't artificially inflate our countries with migrants.I don't know about the states, but here in my country our land use is extremely inefficient. If cultivated with more care, not exactly aiming for mass shipping, you could reduce a lot of pain. I mean a focus on local farmers who would treat their animals with care, rather than aiming to flood the aisles of supermarkets across the country with meat constantly.The way the chain works now is because they want to maximise profits, a lot of animals end up straight up rotting. I am sure there could be another system that is less convenient for the profit of large companies but more benefic for the animals.And a lot of the farm usage is not even for domestic production, rather it's used to sell onions beans to china.
>>524022824It's self evident that it's bad to torture animals a lot for personal trivial gains. My intuition says this is objectively wrong. An argument for moral realism is phenomenal conservatism (it seems like there's a cup on this table so there's a cup on this table) and intuition (it seems like it's wrong to torture babies and cause them massive suffering for trivial fun)It seems like it's wrong to torture animals massively for trivial taste pleasure.
>>524020215this is why population reduction is a good thing. So many atrocities justified by "well we can't just let people starve!"no need for mass murder or anything, just cool it on trying to increase the population exponentially, forever. I think we already have more than enough people. Of course, modern economic systems are entirely dependent on infinite exponential growth, so...
>>524022006Dogs have more moral value than most other animals. When you realize they are an empathy sufficiency litmus test, it makes sense why people who arent too good with dogs tend to do things like treat children as disposable. Why the chinese made it legally preferable to kill traffic accident victims. Too much empathy and being a dog mom are also defects.
>>524023861>trivial taste pleasure.It's not just that. There's a reason every vegan and vegetarian is unhealthy. We should eat meat, but there's no good reason to torture animals to do so. Let them have good lives and kill them quickly.
>>524023193You idiot. You named the trait. You drew the arbitrary line. Informed consent. I know your type well. Also, fetuses ARE PEOPLE. Sentience is an arbitrary line. Our species is not.
It's ok because I'm the Bible God said animals were put on earth for man to eat. It's in Corrinthians 6:7 "For I, The McDonald of Ronald, bestow unto the unlimited chicken nuggers."
>>524023577>d-define humanAct with the wrong definition (you know what the right one is) and find out, vegan mengele. You fuck dogs. This can not be repeated often enough. >>524023861Animals have no innate moral relevance only a relationship with man. Dogs for instance have had their relevance assigned by selective breeding to make them interact with empathy subsystems. If man moves past this or dogs become disgusting they lose their relevance. Cattle have none. It is an act of poor character but nowhere near comparable to killing and raping people. Which are self evidently self defined.Again you would kill a PERSON to save any number of animals. You are evil. Your morals have no point but to express your ego. My morals benefit my species. We are not the same. You jack your tiny dick to dogs, and to fantasies about being a moral arbitrator. I tell you about morals that predate both of us. You would kill people to save cows. I would kill cows to strengthen people. We are not the same. Notably I am rightAndYouAre an evil dog fucker. no one has to be consistent with the philosophy you have put forth. no one has to listen to you. you have no metaphysical ought. you have no sensible goal. you define good for yourself, then you strive to it, but you have defined evil as good because you are a defective individual (dog fucker) and the rules you made for yourself to be good by are nonsense.
>>524015265I worked at a place that did this but they got gassed first before going into a grinder with the shells to be pulverized and turned into dog food
>>524023837Omg, your argument is bad. Population decline means global population decline. Immigration means nothing to the numbers.Supermarkets maximizing profits, yeah a better system would be to just give food to people and purely subsidize it with state funds. That has its own messed up issues.Onions beans for China, that's a country that would starve and die without trade.
>team good according to values i made up to justify my pre existing beliefs that everyone has to follow consistently or anyone can do anything (protip: you are the only psychopathic failosopher here, dogfucker)>team humanChoose
>>524015265Seems rational DESUFrom Gemini:The practice of "chick culling" (killing male chicks at one day old) is a very recent phenomenon, starting only in the 1920s and 1930s. Two things changed:Specialization: Humans bred two distinct "types" of chickens: one that puts on meat incredibly fast (Broilers) and one that lays hundreds of eggs (Layers).Economics: A male chick from a "Layer" breed grows so slowly and stays so thin that it costs more to feed it than the meat is worth. Because it is no longer "dual-purpose," it is treated as a byproduct of the egg industry.
>>524024622Ok anon, let's keep torturing animals!
>>524021448If you kill the libertarians, you can reeducate the vegans.
>>524015265Just ordered a 12 pc from McD's with parmesan sauce, you can suck my fat one
>>524024957They really dont matter enough to starve or weaken a single person. It could be improved but people are more important. And any retarded specific definition of person, if exclusive of any one person, is useless, because someone able to kill that person as readily as a normal man would livestock is defective in every other way. Arbitrary philosophies do not substitute for innate empathy, which is for humans, remember that please.
>>524025231>Maybe we shouldn't torture animals and then dump their rotten bodies into the trash so that the production chain keeps profit moving in the most efficient manner>This means you want people to starve
>>524024957Sadly that's the situation we're in. You can continue to bitch as much as you like, but I don't see a method out of the cycle and I'm positive you're not going to go into agriculture and figure out a better solution.Turns the whole thing into one giant shit fit between morals of treating animals vs keeping people alive. I would rather starve out all of you useless fucks, but I'm not the one in power.
>>524015265What would happen if you just let them go into the wild to get eaten instead?
>>524026510I think it would be better to move towards mussels in the mean time. At least they have no brain and seem more like plants than animals.At least I know I'd rather eat mussels than chicken nuggets as wellI'm sure there are ways to improve the system. Nowadays it seems more focused on quantity over quality too. I'd rather eat high quality red meat once in a while than eating dubious quslity every day
>>524015265I wish it were dogs so this way I'd get to laugh at dog lovers
>>524015265The demiurge sees this and is pleased with his creation.
Maybe if roosters weren't mean cunts that fight anyone and anything and didn't wake everyone up at 5 AM more people would be willing to keep them alive
>>524015265>>524015418that's how you make chicken/fish food nothing goes to waste, I don't see what's the problem?>>524015835yea this is a waste, they should be going into those grinding machines
>>524015265Chick n cost@bt $6,000,000.00 a pound
>>524026975same here
>>524015265>>524015418lmao
Bump
>>524015265>>524015418this shit is straight up satanic, the amount of life extinguished
>>524024127>Our species is not.Species is absolutely arbitrary. I've already demonstrated this in previous threads. If you want a moral system without arbitrary lines be a utilitarian
>>524016431>this is probably how aliens feel about kill us >they don’t feel a thingYeah, pretty much. You should see the soul harvesters, they find the pleading and begging entertaining, because people have forgotten how to say 'no' or fight back for that matter.
>>524015265Ok
>>524030264Yep
good threadI am not against killing the male chicks, but it should be much swifter
>>524015265Non-veganism must be extinguished
>>524016279Its ok. Its because a woman ate an apple
Bump on
>>524035310Based
>>524015265Nooooo not the hecking chickenrinooosOh look russian soldiers commiting suicide, dope
>>524015265>Billions of baby chicks are put into blendersOk and?
>>524015418Noo not muh nuggeriinooos!
>>524015418cheep cheep cheep ch-ACK
>>524015500 (not even checking)so when are you going to stop tigers from eating meat?
>>5240221978/10
>>524022328why would i safe jewish kids?
>>524030264next time i want to hear you cry about the insect genocide that birds commit
>>524015265This is how authentic and nutritious american food is made American children grow strong from diets high in ground bones
