What is your best proof?
I recall that picture was from a train accident in the US. Got anything better?
>>524019986I heard this theory of it being a train crash in ohio 1912 or 1902. But you can see the fence sticks in the middle picture match exactly as it was in auschwitz.
I have no evidence more then spoken words.The jewish whitnesses have earned a fortune with it.And the German whitnesses had feared for their life if they say something else
>>524020146Those are trees I think bro
>>524019822I thought they needed a chimney?
Best proof:anal bicycle pumps.I mean, if this was false,then it could only mean Jews are degenerate liars,who make up the stupidest, sickest lies,purely because their minds are as degenerate as possible.And who could believe that about Jews?
>>524020146ive heard this before, but do you have some proof of it?
>>524020280Yeah they had to wait until the Russians built it in 1950s though
>>524019822>Assume something happened >Now give proofDo...do you know what the word "assume" means?
I know that Russians massively inflated their own death counts. If they can lie so can others.
>>524019822The families of Catholic patriots I knew who lost family in death camps and Catholic survivors from Ravensbrück and Treblinka who described what they saw and how the Jews were destroyed to me as a childshame on you OP
>>524019822>the holocaust conspiracy theoryIts clearly the first and most obvious conspiracy theory because the population numbers do not make any sense, and if you ask any obvious questions you get attacked. Now take the attack on the USS Liberty - well documented, not a theory.
>>524019822define the holocaust, because nobody died in a gas chamber
>>524019822>let's assume the holocaust happenedIt didn't
>>524020649>Catholic survivors from Ravensbrück and TreblinkaSaving the Rabbits of RavensbrückIt was February 5, 1945, in Ravensbrück, the largest women's only concentration camp in the Third Reich. The inmates - Catholic, Protestant, Jewish women – were starving, sick, and struggling to survive day-to-day in the camp known as “Hitler’s Hell for Women." Many had lost husbands, children, and other beloved family and friends; all had lost their countries. Yet these women, from over 20 different nations, still found a way to come together and risk their lives to save 63 young Catholic Polish inmates, many of whom were high school and college students, who had been horribly maimed by Nazi experimental surgeries on their legs and slated for execution. Not only did this international group of women pull off one of the most amazing large-scale concentration camp rescues of the war, but ensured that the young Polish students, known as the “Rabbits," survived to testify at the Nuremberg Trials against their Nazi doctors. It took the courage and cooperation of thousands of women, of varying countries, religions, and political beliefs, but in the end - and against all odds - they saved the Rabbits of Ravensbrück.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UhrA94Zy3AThis documentary tells the story of how an international group of female prisoners pulled off one of the most extraordinary rescues in Nazi concentration camp history, saving 63 young Catholic Polish women –nicknamed the Rabbits - who had been maimed by horrific Nazi medical experimental surgeries on their legs and slated for execution. This may be our last chance to hear this amazing true story - which inspired the instant NYT best seller Lilac Girls - directly from the women of the French and Polish resistance who lived it.Fuck you OP. I hope you and whatever cunts spawned you wind up in Hell.
>>524019822you're asking for something that doesn't exist
>>524020962GET THYE FUCK OUT OF MY NATION YOU WORTHLESS BROWN TRESSPASSING PIECE OF SHIT
>>524021027why don't you oblige op, if I'm so wrong....
>>524019822
>>524020962Your brain?
>>524019822If I was an allied force, I would bomb the German supply line making sure to starve both the Germans and the Jews. I would then redirect blame to the Germans creating death camps and intentionally starving the Jews. Wait, is that what happened?
>>524021224see >>524021186
>>524021186WHY DON;T YOU FUCK OFF BACK TO YOUR SAND DUNE YOU WORTHLESS BROWN CUNTCOMING ON HERE AND LYING ABOUT THE CA,PS WHERE CATHOLICS WERE HELD AND LYING ABOUT EUROPEAN HISTORYYOU WORTHLESS FUCKUP UNDOUBTEDLY IN MY NATION AS A FUCKING 'REFUGEE' GET THE FUCK OUT EVIL BROWN CUNT
>>524021267so not mention about the shootings in the east?
>>524021274GO ON PISS OFF BACK YOU WORTHLESS IMMIGRANT PIECE OF SHIT
There are so few Jews in Europe today compared to the 19th century.There are so few Yiddish speakers in the world today compared to the 19th century. And almost all of them are in the US or Israel, and few of them are in Europe. There were more Yiddish speakers at its historic peak as there are Jews in the world today.There are grand synagogues in Germany and Hungary in cities now all but devoid of a Jewish community. Where did the Jews go?
>>524019822>Lets assume the holocaust happendlol nah
>>524019822all i remmber is that it happened FOR NO REASON AT ALLhttps://youtu.be/n_fG4zYGSfs
>>524019822There is a table with shoes on it and some pretty unfakeable masturbation based execution chambers.
At the Nazi concentration camp Dachau, three barracks out of thirty were occupied by clergy from 1938 to 1945. The overwhelming majority of the 2,720 men imprisoned in these barracks were Catholics—2,579 priests, monks, and seminarians from all over Europe. More than a third of the prisoners in the "priest block" died there.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximilian_KolbeAt the end of July 1941, a prisoner successfully escaped from Auschwitz. In reprisal, the deputy camp commander, SS-Hauptsturmführer Karl Fritzsch, ordered guards to pick ten men to be starved to death in an underground bunker. When selected, Franciszek Gajowniczek, a Polish Catholic, cried out, "My wife! My children!" At that moment, Kolbe volunteered to take his place.An assistant janitor later testified that Kolbe led the prisoners in prayer from his prison cell. Each time the guards checked on him, he was standing or kneeling in the middle of the cell, calmly looking at those who entered. After the group had been starved and deprived of water for two weeks, only Kolbe and three others remained alive.Impatient to empty the bunker, the guards gave the four remaining prisoners lethal injections of carbolic acid. Kolbe is said to have raised his left arm and calmly waited for it. Maximilian Kolbe died on 14 August 1941. He was cremated on 15 August, which happened to be the feast day of the Assumption of Mary.THOUSADS OF GOOD CATHOLICS WITNESS WHAT HAPPENED TO THE JEWS IN THESE CAMPSOP WILL BURN IN HELL
>>5240214621 childNow in 4th generation.I have an very anoying coworkerI openly hate him, while i dont even hate the asshole who dont know how to be nice.That coworker is jewish, he has no siblings, just one child and one grandchild.
Holocaust deniers don't research anything but their narrative https://youtu.be/M960XckpK5s?si=jhWQbOMssB3Hevw6
>>524019822> What is your best proof?I have none.
why isnt pol doing anything about these fucking bots?
>>524021462You made up the numbers.You lie to your God every saturday. And lying to goys its just pilpul, another hebrew talmudian thing you do.You lie and fabricate everything. Stop your verbose bullshitery.You just lie, all the time.
>>524019822Fuck jews. I don't give a shit about the holocaust. Fuck them right here and now for turning this world in to hell to serve their god molach. Who gives a shit about what happened to their great grandparents.
>>524021392what type of kike drugs are you on, shill? never happened. cry moar
>>524021650>liberal catholoc race traitors>telling the truthspiritual kikes one and all
>>524021780ANOTHER RAGHEAD JEW OBSSED TRESPASSER IN EUROPE ON TO LIE ABOUT EUROPEAN HISTORYGO ON FUCK OFF BACK TO YOUR SAND DUNE>>524021650>>524021392>>524020836
>>524021757bots? you cant think of a decent answer pleb?
>>524021884ANOTHER BROWN HEATHEN PIECE OF SHIT?WHAT A SUPRISE!
>>524021650Okay.This thread is brought to you thanks to Israel.Dont be an imbecile goy like me, just hide the thread.And msybe just log off /pol/ today. They sre getting desperate with the recent Epstein diaries drop and are possibly generating lot of Epstein AI pics to poison the well and sell it like it was AI all the time.Go to twitter and dissect the pics that came out with the normies. You will waste your time here today desu.
>>524021392>found the jewoh look, another fan fic book
>>524021960never happened. no murder showers. no mobile gas vans. no human lampashades. no kike soapjews lost the culture war. christkikes cant survive without jewery
>>524021988>>524021960>ANOTHER BROWN HEATHEN PIECE OF SHIT?GO ON GO THE FUCK BACKCALLING THE TESTIMONY OF CATHOLICX MARTYRS AND PATRIOTS LIESGO ON FUCK OFF BACK TO YOUR FAILED HEATHEN HELLHOLE>>524021650>>524021392>>524020836>>524020649>The families of Catholic patriots I knew who lost family in death camps and Catholic survivors from Ravensbrück and Treblinka who described what they saw and how the Jews were destroyed to me as a child>shame on you OP
>>524021960>>524020649You dropped your flag you fucking inbred kike.Anons, get the fuck out of this place at least for today. Its all psichotic dead cock semites today smd not even the funny ones.
>>524021730>research>youtube slopnever found any hydrogen cyanide in the showers
>>524022068I'll tell you what never happenedYou were never wanted in my nation, we both know you're a jew obsessed raghead immigrants. Go on deny it you peace of shit. GO BACK WHERE YOU CAME FROM
>>524022228weak b8. last (You). never happened
>>524022143YOU SHOULD STUDY WHAT HAPPENED TO THE JEWS MUHAMMED.YOU'RE PROBABLY NEXT.
>>524019822>Lets assume the holocaust happendNo.
>>524020649oh so like they saw adam cucking humanity to fuck some retarded whore ? or the part where god blessed them with the 10 law ? etc etc etc ?
>>524022309>>524021650>At the Nazi concentration camp Dachau, three barracks out of thirty were occupied by clergy from 1938 to 1945. The overwhelming majority of the 2,720 men imprisoned in these barracks were Catholics—2,579 priests, monks, and seminarians from all over Europe. More than a third of the prisoners in the "priest block" died there.>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximilian_Kolbe>At the end of July 1941, a prisoner successfully escaped from Auschwitz. In reprisal, the deputy camp commander, SS-Hauptsturmführer Karl Fritzsch, ordered guards to pick ten men to be starved to death in an underground bunker. When selected, Franciszek Gajowniczek, a Polish Catholic, cried out, "My wife! My children!" At that moment, Kolbe volunteered to take his place.>An assistant janitor later testified that Kolbe led the prisoners in prayer from his prison cell. Each time the guards checked on him, he was standing or kneeling in the middle of the cell, calmly looking at those who entered. After the group had been starved and deprived of water for two weeks, only Kolbe and three others remained alive.>Impatient to empty the bunker, the guards gave the four remaining prisoners lethal injections of carbolic acid. Kolbe is said to have raised his left arm and calmly waited for it. Maximilian Kolbe died on 14 August 1941. He was cremated on 15 August, which happened to be the feast day of the Assumption of Mary.>THOUSANDS OF GOOD CATHOLICS WITNESSED WHAT HAPPENED TO THE JEWS IN THESE CAMPS>OP WILL BURN IN HELL
>>524019822funny how ze jews come out like this
>>524022362ANOTHER JEW OBSESSED RAGHEAD HEATHEN IMMIGRANT ON HERE TO DENY THE TESTIMONY OF THOUSANDS OF GOOD CATHOLICS AND TO TRY AND FALSIFY EUROPES HISTORYFUCK OFF BACK WHERE YOU CAME FRPOM YOU L;YING HEATHEN FILTH>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UhrA94Zy3A [Embed]>This documentary tells the story of how an international group of female prisoners pulled off one of the most extraordinary rescues in Nazi concentration camp history, saving 63 young Catholic Polish women –nicknamed the Rabbits - who had been maimed by horrific Nazi medical experimental surgeries on their legs and slated for execution. This may be our last chance to hear this amazing true story - which inspired the instant NYT best seller Lilac Girls - directly from the women of the French and Polish resistance who lived it.>Fuck you OP. I hope you and whatever cunts spawned you wind up in Hell.
all they have are>eye witness (((testimony)))>confessions under torturezero jews were murdered in the national socialist prison camp system. none. because they cant prove anyone was murdered. those sheenies died because of weak immune systems and acvidental deaths. you cant prove it
>>524022285>>524022228>I'll tell you what never happened>You were never wanted in my nation, we both know you're a jew obsessed raghead immigrants
>>524022556>because they cant prove anyone was murdered>>524022559>jew obsessed raghead immigrants>>524022420>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximilian_Kolbe>>At the end of July 1941, a prisoner successfully escaped from Auschwitz. In reprisal, the deputy camp commander, SS-Hauptsturmführer Karl Fritzsch, ordered guards to pick ten men to be starved to death in an underground bunker. When selected, Franciszek Gajowniczek, a Polish Catholic, cried out, "My wife! My children!" At that moment, Kolbe volunteered to take his place.>>An assistant janitor later testified that Kolbe led the prisoners in prayer from his prison cell. Each time the guards checked on him, he was standing or kneeling in the middle of the cell, calmly looking at those who entered. After the group had been starved and deprived of water for two weeks, only Kolbe and three others remained alive.>>Impatient to empty the bunker, the guards gave the four remaining prisoners lethal injections of carbolic acid. Kolbe is said to have raised his left arm and calmly waited for it. Maximilian Kolbe died on 14 August 1941. He was cremated on 15 August, which happened to be the feast day of the Assumption of Mary.>>THOUSANDS OF GOOD CATHOLICS WITNESSED WHAT HAPPENED TO THE JEWS IN THESE CAMPS>>OP WILL BURN IN HELL
>>524022559you layer ironying motherfucker. based and redpilled. making the opositions narrative look so schizophrenic, anyone who see's it will instinctually know the jews are lying aboit the holocaust. i applaude you, sir. heil hitler
>>524022556jews did die, but of dysentery, not systematic murder like they claim.Of course they were buried in the camps by the guards, and once their corpses were exhumed, kikes claimed the big bad natzees tried to killed them all and must be punished.They truly are evil people who should've been genocided for real back in the day
Anons, lets all pray so the screaming, too retarded to use VPN, too retarded to keep its memeflag, kike in this thread, finds Christ and gets stem cell treatment for his castrated orgasm and sanity.
>>524019822If the holocaust is fake why are there more witnesses than ever before?
>>524022723>cant into reading comprehensionyou just repeated what i said but worse
>>524022212They literally did though.
Jesus fuck, havent seen this levels of absolute kwetching in a long while. Lay off the meth dude, nobody is reading your pilpulshit.
>>524019822>What is your best proof?The fact it's illegal to deny it in many countries. That must mean it's real
lets assume the british by coincidence got it right the second time around when they had better propaganda proliferation channels with the polish exile government sitting in londonhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Corpse_Factorythey tried to get china into world war I with the lie that germany was burning humans alive in death factories, enough to create 6 million pounds of glycerinthe second time germany just incidental did it, when the haber bosch process made it obsolete or explained how germany could get get ammo from the air through the british blockade
>>524019822>Lets assume the holocaust happend It did happen, many times, where jews attempted to genocide the White races
>>524022881>"its been deboonked">"see, this YT historian says so"you have to be 18+ to post here
>>524019822Testing soil samples around Auschwitzs and digging underground to around 1944 levels of sediment would prove that bodies were burned in the hundreds of thousands but they never did that. They never think outside the box because it’s a hoax.
>>524023068britain peddled the same shit in both world wars
>>524022881they never found significant ammounts of cobalt blue in the showers. it was tested along side random bricks and had an equivellant ammount. the only significant findings of zyklon were in the de-lousing chambers
>>524023202remains were found on the surface strata but this can be explained by "survivors" ashes being scattered at these holy sites post war. the lidar tests were inconclusive and there has never been an invase dig done at auswitz
>>524023276the gas thing comes from dachau, the story just traveled into the unfalsifieable area behind the curtainthe only camp that got gaschamber looking gaschambers is dachau, they claimed mass gassings for that for decades the US bragged that this was the deathcamp they captured the entire time but then it got silent and sneaky revised
>>524023276You are so emotional. I wonder why.
>>524023414Not an arguement>>524023409i dont think youre right. the leuchter and rudolf reports were done in auswitz. ive only extensibely researched those because its the sexiest camp. if im wrong let me know but im almost certian im not
>>524023409>irish reading comprehensioni see what you were saying now. never mind
>>524023515>Blah blah blah The holocaust happened dude, all your conspiracy shit has been debunked and Hitler was crazy.
>>524021267Not quite. The USA sent camp inspectors who all said they were clearly internment camps, and that any soldier claiming they were death-camps would be court martialed for spreading enemy propaganda. Only the Jewish government in USSR claimed there were death-camps.
>>524023403I know of them they aren’t even worth mentioning. A real scientific analysis would do as you said, dig invasive holes all around Auschwitzs and at varying distances to discount fraud. It’s the one thing they can do to conclusively prove the holocaust happened otherwise it didn’t and all dead Jews died the same way as every other group.
>>524023673you, sir, are based and redpilled. im greatful anons are pretending to be ahistorical retards so i dont have to spoonfeed newfrens about how jews lie about atrocity propaganda. you make my mission easier. i dont have to use proof to debunk the jews narrative. i just have to let you neurotypical natsocs layer irony
>>524023741they claimed the lusitania didn't carry war material for 100 years, the US and UK colluding to besmirch germany there were historians and experts who reasoned backwards, they explained ammo traces away until the bong government came clear in the 90s and said "yeah this thing got a day of verdun fire init"otherwise they would have to admit that the US used her own citizens as humanshields
>>524021462They went to Israel. That was the whole point of the war, to create Israel. Hence the world census showing a migration of ~6,000,000 (who the idiots claimed died.)
>>524023685Stalin never acknowledge the holohoax
>>524023875Conspiracy theorists are the biggest liars.
>>524023991exactly. the jewish atrocity conspiracy is so farfetched that its a mystery why people even believed it in the first place. white guilt is a hulluvah drug
>>524020649>memeflag>simping for kikes>”u shuld be shamed”Reddit refugee kike
>>524023989ilya ehrenburg was a black propaganda specialist of the soviets.... inciting and call for genocidal mass rape against germanspretending it could have been accurate lol
>>524021392>anyone who hates kikes like me must be a muslimlol it’s the uhg cultist cope, and it’s every bit as ineffective
>>524021431I have it on good authority from my own great grandmother that they rounded up the jews in her town and killed all of them. Also, another old ass lady I talked to from Latvia absolutely loved that the Nazis did the same in Riga. I don't know about the gas chambers and all that. Too many inconsistencies there and logic would dictate that if you go through the trouble of shipping jews to camps you'd at least get your money's worth by working them to death on starvation rations. But I have no reason to doubt the shootings on Russian territory.
>>524022307We have studied what happened to you kikes, and it shows that you and yours are blatantly lying about the holocaust
>>524023991still waiting for that irrefutable proof...turns out jews are the biggest liarsyour noses are no coincidence
the holocaust threads are just bait distracting from the epstein material, started to sprung up as distraction and to pollute the purity of the message of powerful israel backed pedo island shitI still reply due to autism.... fully aware of what the shill niggers are doing here.
>>524019822>nazis hated jewsyes>nazis rounded jews up and put them in ghettos and then concentration camps during the waryes>many jews died and some were executed in these camps as well as jehovas witnesses, romani and other groupsyes>forced labour in these campsyes>the nazis did medical experiments in the campsprobably, but not on a large scale>there were extermination camps which had secret death chambers disguised as shower rooms in order to demonically trick jews even at the last moments and then gas comes out of the showerhead and somehow kills the jews, by the way there is zero photographic proof of this of any kind, and a bunch of survivor testimony that is obviously impossible like masturbation machines and the bear and eagle cagefairytale. never happened, only idiots believe it>BUT THE T4 PLAN!yes but its not reasonable to leap from that to millions in magic chambers>BUT THEY ADMITTED TO ITevery single nazi at nuremberg was subject to genital torture to extract confessions>BUT MY POST WW2 CONSENSUS!!how is that working out for you, dipshits?
That they deserved it
>>524024234
>>524024310britain in the 2000s came clear about using systematic torture against german POW to force false confessions to war crimesthis includes even civilians after the warhttps://www.theguardian.com/uk/2005/nov/12/secondworldwar.world>The London Cage was used partly as a torture centre, inside which large numbers of German officers and soldiers were subjected to systematic ill-treatment. In total 3,573 men passed through the Cage, and more than 1,000 were persuaded to give statements about war crimes. The brutality did not end with the war, moreover: a number of German civilians joined the servicemen who were interrogated there up to 1948.
>>524024248It's all been debunked, the ball is not in your court.
>>524023027>>Lets assume the holocaust happend >It did happen, many times, where jews attempted to genocide the White races
>>524023403there never will be a dig done because its a holy site as part of our western jew worship self hating religion
>>524020403How could they spare the time/manpower to cartoonishly torture these people while fighting a war on 2 fronts?
>>524024448>It's all been debunkedthen you won't mind doing again and will gladly post the evidenceI'll wait...
>>524021650Man, good thing those guards all had their trusty Standard Issue Carbolic Acid syringes. Not every soldier properly maintains their Standard Issue Carbolic Acid syringe. The last time I was issued a Standard Issue Carbolic Acid syringe just in case the prisoners in the special death chamber of my death camp (its for EXTRA death) don't die fast enough, I ended up bending the needle a week into my deployment. It worked out though because instead of a prisoner in line, I just saw this guy walking backwards, so I never had to try and stick anyone.>t. totally real rear-det conscript in a defensive war
>>524019986Why were dead people stripped naked after a train accident?
>>524024609>inb4 another 15 minutes YT attention seeling """historian"""
>>524024483>Lets assume the holocaust happend It did happen, many times, where jews attempted to genocide the White races
>>524019822>What is your best proof?Well we have the signed confessions of the German officers...Which are a bit suspicious seeing as they were extracted by testicular trauma from defeated enemy officers that had already surrendered..
>>524024609You can research tha, it's all over the internet. But you won't.
>>524024789you mean the hoess affidativ? the guy confessed to killing and gassing a million too many in auschwitz? can happen to anybody a million too muchcoercion and threats to family boogaloo obvious too signing off to whatever
>>524024675>Only lying conspiracy theorists and lying nazis are valid sources. Holocaust denial is lower iq than flat earth.
>>524024675it works wonders on the emotionally vulnerable normies by appealing to their disney like world viewthey could never conceive that jews lied to them in such a vile way>>524024849no, I can't, there's literally nothing to research...the onus falls on you to prove your claim
>>524022881You could find a giant pile of hydrogen cyanide capsuls full and ready to go and it wouldn't prove anything. A murder trial requires BODIES. And absolutely zero bodies have been recovered. None. Nada. Ground penetrating radar shows no soil disturbance, let alone bones, in any alleged mass burial sites.But most importantly, nobody SAW any bodies. Not poisoned with cyanide. We know because thousands of Jews DESCRIBED bodies. And they described them incorrectly. Cyanide is a poison because it prevents the transfer of oxygen from your hemoglobin into a cell. Your blood is able to take in oxygen, but unable to get rid of it. Pic related is what that looks like: a BRIGHT RED corpse that doesn't turn green/gray.How could THOUSANDS of people claim to be eye witness to a shared traumatic event, only to omit the most visually interesting detail?The only way that happens is if they all saw the same thing: no poisoning. No mass death.
>>524025065Oops forgot pic
>>524025065I don't waste my time with conspiracy theorists. You guys live in a fantasy.
>>524024942oh so unimpartial scources are to be thrown out? there goes the entire holocaust narrative kek
>>524024650>naked peopleI did some digging after that post and found the source of the debate. The photo was seemingly altered for some cheap documentary on the Dresden, Ohio crash of 1912 (which is curiously not listed on Wikipedia's list of train accidents in 1912).So if it is a photo of anything, it's not from the Dresden, Ohio crash.But that photo has also been altered over the years to "support" the jewish narrative, too. Note the straight posts which is contrary to the design of the posts around Auschwitz. I found a touched-up photo (enhanced, no less) that put in the curved tops. No negatives exist (surprise). It's fuckery on top of fuckery.
>>524020146Shut up, mountain kike. Even back then a good artist could modify films with pencils and trickery to add 4 posts into a picture. Your argument is invalid.
>>524024914Has anyone actually done the math on how long it would take to gas that many people?Lets say we use the dimensions of "the room" at Auschwitz as a baseline how long would it take to even gas 1 million if you have a round the clock victim queue and say 10 mins gassing time?
>>524025277why won't you show us what you claim happened ???it should be easy for you seeing you're so certain....unless... you can't ??
>>524024650>muh HD photos where you can see every detail clearlythis is how retarded people are
>>524025298Nope you didn't win sorry, all your shit has been debunked.
>>524025298>un-imthats a double negative. would it just be...partial at that point?
>>524022556No, no, there were several Jews murdered. Three of them, by Karl Koch. He was head of Buchenwald. He killed them because they were rich and he could intercept all their stuff. His guards arrested him and his court martial sentenced him to die by firing squad. Because murdering people, even Jews in "death camps," was not tolerated by Nazis. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl-Otto_Koch
>>524020146"it was a train crash" is jewish disinformation to cope with the fact that they had a working camera in Auschwitz during the holocaust and didn't take a single picture of it
>>524025409Nope, the ball is not in your court. The holocaust topic is a dead horse, you lost.
>>524019822>hitler killed all jews in europe except those in russia>every jew is also a survivor of said extermination that killed everyonewhich one is it nigger? clearly you lack brain..
>>524025469we both won. the lurkers will question the holocaust and you got to harvest a whole bunch of (You)s. another victory for national socialism
>>524022979Facts~
>>524025495interdasting. i stand corrected. we now have a total of ~10 jews murdered in the holocaust. germany should be mixed oit of existance for this
>>524025363It doesnt mstter because there were no gas chambers. Wooden doors just slams that bullshit shut.Ask any AI how many calories and time would you require to turn 6000000 bodies into dust in batches of 5.Also I would pay a good chunk to be left alone in a room with the fucking european/irish disgusting rabbi in this thread, I just picture him like this.
>>524025662Your a little boy.
>>524025763i have to bite. i have to give you another. i simply cant resist despite my numerous own spelling and gramatical errors>you're*
>>524023202Yes someone DID do that. He was a jewish filmmaker in the 90's. I watched his shit when I was like 13, I found it on Limewire. He actually stopped being a holocaust accuser over the course of shooting, and in the end renounced his association with jewry.Anyway, his tactic was to use ground penetrating radar. What he found is that you don't have to dig at all - the soil in alleged mass grave areas of Auschwitz haven't been disturbed in millennia. It just happens to sit on land that had never been deforested and farmed.Israel responded to his study by putting large gravel that reflects radar and sonar over large areas near other camps and claiming that THOSE are mass graves.
>What is your best proof?I wish it did happen, so it's not difficult for me to believe people in the past also wanted it to happen, therefore making it plausible.It didn't happen, but it should have.
>>524025507prove itand don't show me a pile of old shoes or a mountain of hair which you secretly collected from your barber shops and plantedor your grandma's cheap tattoo..
>>524025841You're fucking crazy. Bye.
>>524023991Can you unpack this a little bit? What is a "conspiracy theorist" in your world? Let us roll with your definition if you don't mind, so that we can understand you better.
>>524025965>prove itAlready been debunked, old hat topic, you lost. Only a tiny minority of tards are holocause deniers.
>>524025495>Because murdering people, even Jews in "death camps," was not tolerated by Nazis.Lol this is easy to explain to you retarded conspiracy theorists - he didn't kill them in a cool supervillain style way that made them suffer.This is why not just German but all white countries need to delete borders now to atone for their inherently cruel nature.
>>524026028i win again. i dedicate this thread and my victory to adolf hitler
>>524025469The burden of proof is on the accuser. You're a holocaust accuser, its on you to tell us why. We have zero obligation to tell you why innocent men are innocent.
>>524026176Oh look you're a nazi! I totally didn't suspect that you're ideologically brainwashed and all your research is biased! I'm shocked.
>>524026205>Conspiracy theorists lies some more about how burden of proof works.
>>524023989Correct. He would never have thought to. He wasn't 'read in' on that psyop. It was a purely Hollywood operation.
>>524026268another victory for nazi science and a total defeat for jewish propaganda. natsocs are just better researchers. sprry, kiddo
>>524026102>>524026339why would somebody who's so sure of it having happened, not take any chance they get to prove it happened.....you're a liar Moshe, you lost
>>524026339You can't prove a negative, anon. You present evidence, and then the burdern is on the deniers to address the evidence presented before them.
How many ids has this yapoing bot? Absolutely endogamic, as your programmers.
>>524026347it was british, they run the same thing in both world warspoles proliferated the propaganda from london, jews jumped on it after the war and during a bit too
>>524024914Americans especially should be ashamed of falling for the "confessions." We HAVE plea-bargin laws. Our DA can just say "admit to the thing you didn't do or I'll charge you with murder-1." It's like a sport for our cops to railroad young people. But you say "holocaust?" they say "Germans admitted it."Not all Germans...
>>524026573don't bother explaining that to himhe's meshuggah, like all of them
>>524025363its trivial in an industrial society, thats for auschwitz which had fuelcapacity and could in theory operate at scaletreblinka got no documented coal deliveries of the necessary quantity I thinkwood and gasoline are silly, they only discredit the storyno logging had been accused and the gasoline would have been too rare and valuable to char some bodies
>>524026645so many people still /lurk/. im almost certian its some anon doing theater. possibly making the worst arguements to bolster revisionism by seeming like an ignorant retard, or maybe its an anon trying to make the wrost arguements so the expant a*gloid doesnt show up and make an ass of himself like he has for years
>>524026176All hail Irishbro and his glorious victory over some angry tunnel rabbi! HURRAH!
>>524026798>its trivial in an industrial society, that's for Auschwitz which had fuelNo, I wasn't on about burning them I was asking how long the gassing would take..?I'm being a lazy pos I should probably just ask AI.
>>524026573Negative sir, the burden of proof is NEVER on the accused. Not under the flag Moshe is flying. He could be honest and fly an Israeli flag, but in America the burden is on the accuser and EVERYONE is innocent until proven guilty.Moshe here has made 17 posts of personal attacks against living anons, without presenting a single sentence supporting the idea that Germans anywhere targeted Jews of any sort. Therefore, the court must conclude that he is a dumb rat and should go eat his pellets.
>>524026938in the near future, all of the revisionisn posts on /pol/ will be studied. we alone prove that not all goyim fell for the tricks. we're making history, anon. you are an equivelant to galileo
>>524026442Get a job you fatherless boy.
>>524027258my job is being a nazi with a huge penis. and im a professional
>>524027089The gassing itself? If Zyklon-B was pumped into a special helmet to maximize exposure, still a good half hour per person. Its a very ineffective delivery mechanism. (And a horribly expensive one.) It (literally) would have been faster and cheaper to ship in the raw cyanide used to produce the zyklon, and just shovel it onto crowds of jews in hopes they inhale a little.
>>524019822All the people who survived it.
>>524027301And an incel.
>>524021027You are living in the most antisemitic European country there is right now. You should probably move back to israel before you get pogrommed. It's not that far off.
>>524027410another flase claim. do you have any world view that can be corroberated with facts?
>>524027541>Everyone is in on it!! Get over yourself you narcissistic brat that never had a father.
>>524027318>Zyklon-BThis is used as a treatment for lice right? An insecticide?So really the whole concept in inefficient and retarded - completely out of character for the regime at the time.
>>524027388>All the people who survived it.which is all of them lol>>524027704>everyone blindly repeating what they are told on mediano way, impossibru
>>524026826Jesus, your parents must be twins holy fuck.
>>524027388You'll have to buy my book to learn the full horrific truth of my journey through not 1.. not 2.. not 3.. but 7 death camps!!!
>>524020403fucking kek.
>>524027849You're blindly repeating what the lying extremists are saying. I know both points of view, the holocaust deniers are wrong and heavily biased through neo-nazi ideology. They hate Jews.
>>524019822>What is your best proof?my favorite proof of the holocaust is that there's been like a dozen before The Big One most-recent
>>524019822Lets assume it happenedWhy should I care?Did I do it?NoDid you experience it?NoSo stop whining to me about it.Hall of cost faggots need to learn to shut up
>>524027704you're really helping us immemsely. usually some knowitall midwit tries to debunk revisionism and i have to spoonfeed them with sources and quotes. maybe once in a while they'll have a novel source and it takes a while to read it, test the histiocity and falsify the claim. you've being dogwalked by a burgeranon and his meme folder and a germanon with his aspsrgers. it really makes me believe you're layer ironying to help the ns movement. but morons do exist. bots are trained to engagement bait. and jews really cant help but kevetch, so how knows? no point in dwelling on it. i got to learn about the execution of an SS man for cruelty to jews in birkenau by the nazis. it was a good thread and am overwhelming victory for national socialism. inb4 didnt read. and that, is the issue with the holocaust. people dont research
>>524027860whites only. you medniggers are too insecure to engage with in any capacity
>>524028199You're a nazi religious fanatic, shutup already. You're not educated on this topic, you're BIASED.
>>524028292yeah, im BASED. always have been
>>524028292>>524028097>no proofstill waiting...
>>524028343Yeah based as in you live in the basement.
>>524028381Been debunked. You can research that.
>>524027999>You're blindly repeating what the lying extremists are sayingliterally you except its kikes and propaganda via mediahow stupid are you?
>>524028413stick to stand up and leave history to me
>>524027999>Biased through neo-nazi ideology. They hate Jews.My dude Ideology or not some of this shit is pretty silly and it makes you wonder if some people are making up WACKY cartoon shit what else is a lie by omission, a half truth, a complete fabrication..?Seems like a fair question to ask rather than >"Hey we have proof some people died so we can just ignore pages of fabricated comic book shit and cartoonish nonsense" I have first hand experience of this from being born on the floor of a room filled with toxic gas - you'll have to buy my excellent book to learn the full harrowing story.
>>524028413>makes stuff up>it happened>trust me broclearly bait
>>524028442You're wrong. You can research that.
>>524019822i mean the soldiers that were involved didnt deny it during trials
>>524028528Those are just people who want to cash in, nazis use this as bait to lure in gullable young people, with the end goal of radicalism.
>>524028579I already researched it, holocause denial is bullshit.
>>524028665confessions under torture and coersion. a show trail is not valid evidence
>>524028199>i got to learn about the execution of an SS man for cruelty to jews in birkenau by the nazisChecked. That's what shills never understand. We reached our conclusions because history is genuinely interesting to us, and we relish the opportunity to read things we've yet to encounter. Everyone who does real research ends up where we are. >>524027782Yea, its the gas that the Nazis are accused of using. And its just not reasonable. ACTUAL gassings did happen in the USSR during Holodomor, so we can see how the industrial evolution fell in line with logistics. First, they realized that the cheapest gas available is what you already produce: carbon monoxide from power generation. Soon after making a gas chamber, the Bolsheviks realized they could skip a whole step by transporting people directly from their point of arrest to the corpse disposal facility by gassing them in the van rather than in a room. Driver never had to know - they'd just run a route, load up prisoners, and back into their unloading dock. Hop into a new ride, repeat. THAT is how you kill on the cheap.You don't make a factory to produce a special bug killing chemical that doesn't work well on people, then ship it to poorly made gas chambers, and throw a few cans down ceiling holes. That's silly.
>>524019822The holocaust did happen.You made a jew do the work of its goyim slaves.
>>524028730>I already researched it, holocause denial is bullshitI already researched it, holocaust is bullshit.
>>524028528The irony is that if you get shills to talk about actual ideology, they end up quoting lines from the Fascist Manifesto. They will never read it, so they'll never be embarrassed. It's so pathetic its unreal.Just a few lines of "evil" fascist demands:>Universal suffrage>Direct worker's union representation in government>High minimum wage>Limit on length of workdays>Social Security
>>524029020Holocaust accusers be like>I see about a 100 phones here, which logically leads to the conclusion that 6,000,000 people died
>>524028687>Those are just people who want to cash in,The entire Zionist Jewish movement as a whole has "cashed in" and gained immense influence over European societies..Who in their own words, in their own texts they seem to view their inferior and racial enemies going back to ancient times.
>>524028784the american holocaust museaum still tries to claim there were mobile gas vans in poland and russia. and still the only evidence is an unrelated volkswaggon that was not outfitted for such puropses. i remeber an anon proving that soviet gas vans were a myth too but i didnt look too deeply
>>524028665We're trottin' out all the old classics today aren't we boys?
>>524029115do you have the image of hitler on the podium with the little robbin? its a fake image but its really cute and i lost it long ago when my old desktop died. thanks in advance
>>524029149>The entire Zionist Jewish movement as a whole has "cashed in" and gained immense influence over European societies..Due to Hitler and the holocaust. And because of 2000 years of persecution from Christians for not converting to Christianity,and being blamed for killing Christ.
>>524019822This
>>524028784>its the gas that the Nazis are accused of usingNot everywhere they used carbon monoxide at the Reinhard facilities
>>524022420>THOUSANDS OF GOOD CATHOLICSonly certain Catholic and other "clergy" were put in The Kamps for only two crimes:Currency smuggling and "immorality" AKA child molesting.Other GOOD clergy were allowed to continue doing services as normal and even aided by Nazi regime.Nazis remain the only regime to pro-actively protect children from pedo-rapist cults. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spotlight_(film)
>>524029536>deportations =/= death camps
>>524029177I've never known Israelis to brag about murders they didn't commit, even while I also know them to accuse others of their own crimes. If I hear "Jews had gas-vans, and also Jews accuse Germans of having gas-vans," my assumption is that Jews definitely had gas-vans (and are bragging about it) but the Germans did not.>>524029297Sorry, I don't. Have a real pic instead.>>524029536Your document there outlines transportation needs. The idea that the bodies being transported are dead due to extermination is pure supposition.>>524029642I would love to see evidence of this. Have you encountered anything substantive?>>524029724Being good at being catholic is a far cry from trying to earn a place at God's table...
>>524019822There's just no evidence of intentional genocide.Concentration camps have been used throughout history. When America first used concentration camps in the Philippines at the turn of the 20th century, there's an estimated death count of 250,000 to a million because of diseases. Then we put Japanese Americans in concentration camps. Then in Vietnam. But you never hear from Filipinos, Japanese, or Vietnamese ever using their genocide victim card. It's only been Jews.That's just what happens with concentrated camps. People are way more susceptible to spread of diseases and they can't just run away. Also, there is a lack of preparation when it comes to medicine supply and logistics. Not to mention the lack of food during war time.
>>524029256shame thats all they did to them
>>524028784>ACTUAL gassings did happen in the USSR during HolodomorWhich was during the Bolshevik revolution in Russia right? Where the main ringleaders of said revolution were Jewish dissidents like Vladimir Lenin and the main victims were the native aristocracy and those loyal to them and anyone else who objected.I believe there is a video of a Rabbi were he admits Jews had a hand in this genocide.
>>524029857https://web.archive.org/web/20200121232729/https://www.hdot.org/debunking-denial/ds6-engines-used/
>>524019822>What is your best?Nobody cares about that old shit.
>>524029325>Due to Hitler and the holocaust. And because of 2000 years of persecution from Christians for not converting to Christianity,and being blamed for killing Christ.You could have gone home and lived in Israel at any time btw
>>524030757>eyewitness testimony>nazis destroyed all pysical evidence>"its true that eye witness statements are inconsistenti cant believe im actually going to continue reading this crap. but i will. holocaust affirmers never expect people to read their work
>>524030980So your assertion is every eye witness is making it up? Have you ever read Richard Glazars testimony? Watched Shoah? They're all making it up?
>>524031065>Richard Glazars>Watched Shoahyou propagandists never expect cross examination. unreliable statements, unverified by hard facts. ill get back to you once ive read the citations. donr flee the thread too soon
>>524031217>hard facts.What hard facts are you expecting to exist from facilities that were destroyed and that less than 100 people who saw the inside ever lived to tell and most of those didn't survive the war? Have you read Ordinary Men? Those are German policemen testifying they shot a bunch of people. No amount of evidence would be enough for you. You're asking the wrong question anyway the conspiracy isn't did it happen it's why and especially why there were so many eager collaborators.
>>524030980I've noticed you can easily spot Jewish lies because they always start with well poisoning statements like..>Nutjobs/Incels/quacks/liars actually believe..There are ALWAYS a few fluff paragraphs of this before it gets to any actual content.. >Studies show/Experts/scientists..Then if you look at the sources or visit the site you find it's some advocacy research by a left leaning group and not neutral or scientific at all.Same tricks always.
>>524019822It has got to be true. They keep finding new survivors everyday!
>>524031484>What hard facts are you expectingany. the texts cited are cicular citations and im still trying to find fuch's primary source statememt. if its simply a statement from 1990, then as a historian, you should surely know the longer time passes. the more unreliable the recolectionshistory itself isint enough to research the holocaust. its far too important for scribes. we need the scientific method and you holocaust affirmers never have ANY hard evidenceone. one single piece of hard evidence is all it would take for me to sperg out and falsefy the claim. biases aside, of you had even that, i would take your reinhard claim seriously. but the liquidation of the warsaw ghetto was a deportation order. not an extermination order. ill keep looking. spoomfeed me any hard evidence you have while i am
>>524030465Bingo>>524030757Sorry to be late responding, I was just making dinner. I'll read the full article you've linked and get back to the thread. Full warning up front though: it STARTS with inflammatory language and personal accusations, so I'm not hopeful of quality.
>>524019822The UN 33-13 vote to ratify the catastrophic Jewish resettlement in Palestine is the only hard evidence I have seen, but that is circumstantial at best. I was not there, they may have just done it to do it. Can not confirm.
>>524032163reading the berg citation currently. i'll try corroberate his claims with anything i can. i know a tank sperg who can help with the sobiet tank engine claim
The thing is that not one single person at the time of WW2 or even right after it was over ever mentioned that there were death camps/gas chambers.Think about it, Germany was fighting with all she's got from all directions, the attempted invasion of Russia took a huge toll on German resources, how on earth were they able to just kill off 6M under those circumstances?
>>524019822the holocoaster and masturbation machines
ill make a new thread later if this one dies
>>524030757So this isn't a source my guy, this is a blog. When we talk about Holocaust accusation, we're looking for hard evidence.YOU YOURSELF possess an engine that can kill a person. Does that make you a murderer? Because by this blog's logic, you're guilty of 6,000,000 murders.The capacity to kill does not make someone a murderer. The existence of an engine does not make all white people across the planet guilty of eternal blood debt. There is no logic there.The closest thing the blog references to a source is "eyewitness testimony," which we've already established was tortured out of them. Of the 100+ guys who testified at Nuremburg, only 4 had testicles left. They said what they were fucking told, lol.Also always check this map for quality of source material - it either came from one side or the other of the Iron Curtain.
>>524024483Abe Foxman quote is fake.
>>524032727Also want to add, US General G. Patton wrote to his wife that the US should have sided with Germany, claiming they are the only decent ones in Europe.The question now is, how do we educate the mass on this issue?
>>524028528>picSee:>>523954858Read thread.
>>524019822Never forget.
>>524020649Well my great uncle went to labor camp in the Netherlands and survived just fine. I spoke to him quite often. He was a first generation Nederlander, parents form Deutschland, who refused to join the army. Said it wasnt fun but made it hrough fine.
>>524026685It is worth mentioning in the shabbat community the word Holocaust is used interchangeable with doing actual Manual Work.
>>524032808OK but I'm expecting verbal abuse on par with OP's 80-IQ. Think you can handle that, soldier?>>524033587I thought it meant 'sacrifice by fire,' and when yids "don't lie about there really was a holocaust" its because they're talking about Dresden without saying its name.
>>524019822Has anyone here actually read picrelated? Did you find its claims credible? Why or why not?
>>524032924Pretty sure I have seen a Jewish couple platformed on a television station making the claim of bendy gun holes as if it was FACT, not coming out the mouth of a Neo-Nazi coming from someone who was actually there and witnessed this firsthand..So I put it to you again, if these victims "eyewitness" testimony is a complete fabrication how many others are?
>>524034362>Pretty sure I have seen a Jewish couple platformed on a television station making the claim of bendy gun holes as if it was FACT, not coming out the mouth of a Neo-Nazi coming from someone who was actually there and witnessed this firsthand..No you didn't. Read the thread I provided.
>>524034438>No you didn't. Read the thread I provided.I see if I can find this video of the old Jewish couple, there is a high chance it has been scrubbed from the net by now though.
>>524034629 You're either mistaken or you're lying.>>523960760
>>524033832The documentary "One Third of the Holocaust" goes in depth into it.Raul Hilberg's main tactic is to cherrypick quotes from otherwise discredited accounts to build his own narrative. All you have to do is look into his sources and they're writing a bunch of wild shit, which Raul Hilberg conveniently doesn't tell you about. For example, Yankel Wiernick's firsthand account about the corpse piles and body burnings is heavily used by Hilberg as his primary source. However, he conveniently misses all the other weird lies Wiernick gave, like how his skin was bulletproof, and how bodies underground ignited into flames and burned all night, so the smoke smoldered up from the ground.
>>524019822a pile of shoes (this is actually enough proof for the boomers to believe in the hall of cost )
>Lets assume the holocaust happendno, we've been doing that for 80 years. how about some truth.
>>524019822It happened. Countless survivors recounted their stories and they were same and different in each experience at the same time. The Nazis were evil bastards. I will give you all a homework assignment, watch Schindler's List, The Pianist and every related movie, ask ChatGPT to give you lists of Holocaust movies. What they experienced was beyond words, worse than any other massacre or genocide...the experiments alone were horrid
One of the craziest things is how consistent the 6 million number is. Even before the war, the number was 6 million. Back then, Reader's Digest was the most widely-read publication in America. In Reader's DIgest a jewish propaganist published a piece proclaiming 6 million jews murdered by Hitler.....and this was in 1943 before the Holocaust was even over. Also he totals it up by country, but his per-country totals are totally different from the modern accepted totals. Yet he arrives at exactly the same total, 6 million.
>>524034964Thousands attest to the camps. But the ones that attest to murders or gassings is very small, you can count them on your hand. All of them have weird holes in their stories.
>>524019822LOOKS LIKE THEIR BEING GASSED IN A SHOWER ROOM TO ME
>>524034842>For example, Yankel Wiernick's firsthand account about the corpse piles and body burnings is heavily used by Hilberg as his primary source. However, he conveniently misses all the other weird lies Wiernick gave, like how his skin was bulletproof, and how bodies underground ignited into flames and burned all night, so the smoke smoldered up from the ground.Never heard of this. Where can I find these claims by Wiernick?
>>524019822ME MUM LAMPJUICE
>>524035023In the interviews that Spielberg pulled for that "documentary" he did, only one, who was a doctor, mentioned that cyanide poisoning turns you red, not blue.
>>524033832this yid's been dead for almost 20 years and I still can't download it from archive dot org
>>524023673No it didn't, and no He wasn't. Squirm.
>>524035048Here you gohttps://odysee.com/@montysthinkingoutsidethebox:2/One-Third-of-the-Holocaust-2008:1If you liked that one check out his Buchenwald documentaryhttps://odysee.com/@WhitestGoyUKnow:2/Dean-Irebodd---Buchenwald-A-Dumb-Dumb-Portrayal-Of-Evil:d
>>524024942I'd say the Canadian Supreme Court is certainly an authority a faggot like you might hide behind. They decided there is zero proof for gas chambers. I wonder what else there's no proof for.
>>524034964Christ deniers are liars by definition. John 8:42 Jesus, then, said to them, >"If God were your Father, you would have loved Me. For out of God I came forth and am arriving. For neither have I come of Myself, but He commissions Me.>43 Wherefore do you not know My speech Seeing that you can not hear My word.>44 You are of your father, the Adversary, and the desires of your father you are wanting to do. He was a man-killer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, for truth is not in him. Whenever he may be speaking a lie, he is speaking of his own, for >he is a liar, and the father of it.
>>524026102Let me just say that everyone appreciates your work in these threads acting as the devil's advocate for anons to bounce off of. I know it must be hard to pretend like this, but it's necessary to the exercise.
>>524019822That's like 30 bodies max and they claimed 6,000,000.
>>524020649me mum
>>524035588Israel Cohen quote is fake.
>>524035706No kid it's real. Just got wiped off the internet.
>>524035588This image is a classic example of an antisemitic meme that compiles fabricated or heavily distorted quotes attributed to Jewish individuals to promote conspiracy theories about Jewish plots to undermine white/Western society, promote communism, racial tension, or "white genocide."Here's a breakdown of each quote's authenticity:Max Horkheimer: The quote about a gradual revolution through infiltrating institutions is fabricated. It appears widely on far-right and conspiracy sites but has no verifiable source in Horkheimer's writings or speeches. Reliable collections of his quotes (e.g., from books like Dialectic of Enlightenment or Eclipse of Reason) do not include it, and it's often flagged as a hoax in discussions of Frankfurt School misinformation.Israel Cohen: This is a well-documented hoax. The alleged 1912 book A Racial Program for the Twentieth Century does not exist. The quote originated in the 1950s as antisemitic propaganda, falsely attributed to a real British Zionist named Israel Cohen (who was not a communist and never wrote such a thing). It was debunked in the U.S. Congressional Record in 1957–1958, with evidence including no record of the book in major libraries and anachronisms (e.g., no British Communist Party in 1912).Noel Ignatiev: The extreme quote calling white males a "cancer" and undeserving of life is fake. It originated from a 2013 satirical article on the parody website Diversity Chronicle, which invented a fictional "final lecture" transcript. Ignatiev was controversial for advocating "abolishing whiteness" as a social construct (not literal genocide), but he never said this. The hoax spread widely on far-right sites despite being debunked.Tim Wise: No credible sources attribute this "endangered list" quote to him. Searches yield no results linking it to his books, speeches, or articles. Wise is an anti-racism activist who critiques white privilege, but this appears invented or misattributed to exaggerate his views
>>524035912lol. It comes from "A Racial Program for the Twentieth Century", which is a well known hoax.
>>524035923Arthur Sulzberger Jr.: This quote about white men complaining as a sign of "success" has no verifiable source. It circulates almost exclusively on antisemitic and far-right meme sites, often without context or citation. Sulzberger (former NYT publisher) has real quotes on journalism, but nothing matching this.Susan Sontag: This one is real (or mostly real). Sontag wrote in a 1967 essay (Partisan Review): "The white race is the cancer of human history; it is the white race and it alone—its ideologies and inventions—which eradicates autonomous civilizations wherever it spreads..." She later partially retracted it, calling it an overstatement that unfairly slandered cancer patients (in Illness as Metaphor). It was a provocative critique of Western imperialism during the Vietnam War era, not a call for racial destruction.
>>524035948The biggest hoax is the holocaust.
>>524025115>Everyone's so happy to live in a camp!People can believe everything.
>>524035198I'll watch the whole thing, but I've just started One Third of the Holocaust but this guy's claims and methods seem like bullshit. For example (at least so far) he takes a total of two or three quotes from Yankel that "seem weird" and uses that to dismiss the entire book. For example the claim that a Ukrainian guard shot at him but didn't penetrate his skin. He could have been shot at and hit with a piece of shrapnel. Or not hit at all and believed he'd been hit. Or the bullet could have just been defective - the soviets weren't exactly known for high quality manufacturing at the time. A better question is, if Yankel is just lying, why make up a story about "bulletproof skin" it all? Similarly he highlights Yankel's claim that he killed that guard with an axe as suspicious, ignoring the text above it where Yankel explains that he was able to do this because he saw that the guard's weapon had jammed. Actually, this would be consistent with the firing of a defective round.
>>524034964>Countless survivorsThere were definitely a lot of survivors, that's for sure. And they ALL had the same descriptions of their shared experience. Which is how you know its a lie.Hypothetically, 100 people get together to lie about how evil a person is. They all claim that he took them into his home, raped them, murdered them, etc. They all agree on the basics, if not the details: he raped them, murdered them, and everyone had a different story. Some pregnancies, some tortures, etc. etc.But later you learn that the man's penis had been cut off completely at birth.100 people all agreeing on something physically impossible is proof-positive that they're just a bunch of lying jews trying to manipulate the public.Anyway, picrel is what cyanide poisoning looks like. Ask yourself why tens of thousands of "survivors" agreed that they saw mountains of bodies that had been gassed with cyanide, yet NOT ONE SINGLE JEW correctly described the corpses as bright red. Not one witness mentioned the most visually compelling detail about their shared experience.That's why you're only able to "reference" fiction to back up your claim.
>>524036282>For example (at least so far) he takes a total of two or three quotes from Yankel that "seem weird" and uses that to dismiss the entire book.You know how a courtroom trial works? If you're lying in your testimony, your account is dismissed. Weirnick said that thousands of bodies up and then set alight with no fuel source. Since he (and other eyewitnesses) didn't understand the human bodies don't burn like that. It's because he had no idea how fires work, being an urban jew. >A better question is, if Yankel is just lying, why make up a story about "bulletproof skin" it all?Why did jews make up stories about human skin lampshades, and human soap bars, and shit like that? These were ghetto jews from the shtetle, they aren't highly educated people. They traffic in rumors and superstitions, and pass along stories from their imagination. As you'll see later in the documentary, one of the primary eyewitnesses Abraham Bomba claims the gas chambers were dressed up as a hair salon. How can anyone believe this? These stories are from his own imagination. This whole documentary here is filled with lying eyewitnesses. These people are all 100% lying their asses off, it's not even a question.https://odysee.com/@WakeUpNow:7/Spielberg's-Big-Lie:5
>>524036157Hopefully you die in a fire
>>524036777Yeah same to you and your family.
>>524024544
>>524036282You know its full bullshit because he claims a person with a jammed weapon both approached and threatened to shoot at the same time. The guard could have attempted to cycle his weapon (as EVERY soldier instinctively does without thinking, duh,) or drawn a sidearm. Absolutely zero fighters would approach a man armed with an axe, empty-handed and with no plan, when they stand to gain nothing out of the conflict.You can always see through a Yid's lie because there are tell-tale signs of projecting their unfathomable malice onto actual humans. We just don't behave that way!
>>524036777God bless you patriot. True Americans do indeed support Israel!
>>524019822Retards acting like the Holocaust was a single event when it was an entire period from 1941 to May 1945 with thousands of einzatsgruppen mass executions predating the extermination camps.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bila_Tserkva_massacre
>>524019822I happen to be an expert on this topic, but not for reasons 99.999% of people would like.
>>524020649Fuck off Jew
>>524019822The documentation and pictures of the camps existing and holocaust survivor and military testimonies/ eye witnesses and Anne Franks diary t. I don’t believe it myself and know it’s all lies, but this is the most used and popular proof that is used by establishment of it being real.
>>524037142How do people accept that the Romans ransacked Judea during the first century and killed 1 million jews with swords and spears but don't believe Germans could have killed 6 million Jews 2 thousand year later with all the soldiers and industrial might the Third Reich had?
>>524033667I don't think this would burn well desu.
>>524020403The anal bicycle pumps and all the fucked up shit were actually all real but they were not done in the holocaust but in Jewish Bolshevik death camps for white Christians
>>524036871>The guard could have attempted to cycle his weapon (as EVERY soldier instinctively does without thinking, duh,)Lol you think some random WWII Ukrainian is a perfectly trained soldier? You think everyone was issued a sidearm? Jams happen all the time and you aren't always going to instantly notice. You clearly have no experience with firearms.>Absolutely zero fighters would approach a man armed with an axe, empty-handed and with no plan, when they stand to gain nothing out of the conflict.Yeah that's not what happened though. Yankel says that after he saw the guard's weapon was jammed and then he (Yankel) rushed the guard.>Weirnick said that thousands of bodies up and then set alight with no fuel sourceHe explicitly says that they used a separate fuel source (a "burning object") to start the fires.
>>524037500Yes, Beria even used their small intestines as tubes for his bicycle tires. I've seen it myself.Stalin had them too but he didn't know about it because he let Beria handle his bicycle maintenance.
>>524036871I just reread the passage and it says the guard aimed his *pistol* at him. So it WAS his sidearm that already jammed.
>>524037452There are categories to Holocaust deniers.There's the political deniers like Iran and the arabs and their paid shills in the west because their goal is to destroy Israel.There's the evil, resentful scum who just hate Jews because a bank once denied them a loan due to a bad credit score.Then there's the objectively ignorant/stupid people who saw a bunch of nonsense on TikTok and fell for it.There's also the contrarians who argue for the sake of argument and don't really believe anything at all.
>>524019986They added a picture from a different source on the far left. The two on the right have historically been published together, they were from a train accident in the US but are often cited as holohoax photos taken by secret agents posing as concentration camp jews.
>>524025863> Yes someone DID do that. He was a jewish filmmaker in the 90's. I watched his shit when I was like 13, I found it on Limewire. He actually stopped being a holocaust accuser over the course of shooting, and in the end renounced his association with jewry.Crazy that the Jew renounced Jewry after discovering the myth of the holohoax. I’d imagine most Jews wouldn’t be disgusted about the lie. I guess maybe most Jews are just as NPC as everyone else and are indoctrinated by elite Jews with holohoax propaganda as a means to keep them racially loyal and united against the goyim out of fear of mass extermination
>>524037622What makes anyone assume they threatened people with firearms? If they pointed their guns at them guess what happened next.Yup, they got shot. It wasn't a fucking movie.
>>524037728But what is the source of THAT pic, and do the negatives exist?
>>524037568> at one time, when the corpses were placed on the fire-grate, an uplifted arm was noticed. Four fingers were balled into a tight fist except for the index finger, which had stiffened and pointedlol?
>>524037739>Crazy that the Jew renounced Jewry after discovering the myth of the holohoax.too bad he can't renounce his genes; jews are a blood race, not a religion. Their "religion" worships their bloodline, it's not a spiritual philosophy people "choose" based on feelings in their heart or ideas (like most westerners view religion).
>>524037728Not like people didn't die on the trains, especially if allies bombed the railway line.>aw shucks they bombed the railway tracks>guess we have to let everybody go free
>>524032859Actually, it's more real than you know
>>524037896>Not like people didn't die on the trainsA great majority of the claimed atrocities (against jews by germans) were initially meant to reframe deaths caused by Allied terror bombing and casualties. This "victors justice" reframing of crimes immediately following the war, evolved into an endless invention narrative by jews. That's where the crazy pulp fiction stories of horror death machines and electrified basements and masturbation tortures come from. "Holocaust studies" is just a genre of pulp fiction used for political gain.
>>524037934"Loxism" is a stupid term that will never be widely adopted. And the Abe Fox quote is fake.>>524024483
>>524038025They definitely murdered jews.If you were a Nazi, would you murder jews?>YesCase closed.
Those photos are good evidence. Also the aerial photo of the same thing going on outside crema 5, the smoking pit and others where the ground is burned. So we have photos of the pits both from ground and air.
>>524038120>They definitely murdered jews.The Americans/British, or the Germans?>If you were a Nazi, would you murder jews?Maybe, maybe not. They spent a lot of time and effort protecting them from allied bombers, giving them food they could have given Germans. Seems like the jews were a valuable war-time labor force. I've heard too many modern nation socialists claim Hitler's mistake was that he was too merciful and noble toward his enemies, do you think so too?
>>524038187Sigh, do I have to look for jew's (arm)pits now? This is the best I can do.
>>524038187All those photos that we have of dead people happened during the war or after it, we don't have a single pic before the war.
>>524038254If I ordered you to kill all the jews you would do it.I mean maybe not all of them in the widest sense, but you'd make an effort, because you're a good guy. Clearly they weren't totally successful.Acting like they didn't make an effort is kinda rude.
>>524038120I simply don't understand the narrative of>Hitler was a genius for seeing the true demonic nature of Jewry. His solution? Killing zero of them.Also the idea that every single despotic regime in history commits mass murder except, magically, the Third Reich is unbelievable.
>>524038264Why did jews have a better survival rate than German soldiers?In most genocides, there is clear evidence of intentional mass killing, typically, bodies of people shot by machinegun fire or bombed to death, bodies found in mass graves with bullet wounds (like the Polish soldiers killed at Katyn by the NKVD). There are no jews found "gassed" to death or poisoned. Of the jews that died and made the propaganda picture touted as "murdered victims", they're deaths from Typhus, the result of the Allies bombing German infrastructure to oblivion to try to starve the Germans into defeat.According to Yad Vashem, the Holocaust museum's own numbers say survival rates in German camps were higher than for German civilians or troops.Jews in Germany during the Reich had a (roughly) 70% survival rate. According to records holocaust historians publish, the survival rate for Jews in the German Reich was roughly 3/4ths, or 75% of the Jewish population who lived, in the year 1933, within the Reich's eventual 1939 borders, before the outbreak of WWII (Jews from Austria included).For Jews worlwide, at six million of fifteen million Jews worldwide, it was 2/5ths of the total Jewish population. So Jews in the Reich were 25% more likely to survive than any given Jew.https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/mobile/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005276Roughly 525,000 Jews in Germany in 1933.https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/mobile/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005469Roughly 160,000 Jews evacuated to the East who died.https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/mobile/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005447190,000 Jews officially, more like 215,000 Jews by the Nuremberg Laws. Of these, 65,000 are alleged evacuated to the East and killed. For Austria and Germany these numbers give a survival rate of about 70%. I've seen other estimates that rank the populations of persons considered Jews higher and bumping the survival rate to the mid-70s.https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/mobile/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005161
>>524038469>the idea that every single despotic regime in history commits mass murder except, magically, the Third ReichEvery government in history, regardless of ideology, commits mass murder. That's unavoidable; government do everything en masse, including killing their own populations and those of their neighbors. By the strictest definitions of "despotism", the Third Reich was not one. Aristotle defined despotism as the ruler who favors the foreigner over his own people and fears their strength, does that sound like an enthno-nationalist like Hitler, or more like a cosmopolitan consociationalist from the Allied West/Boshlevist East?https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0058%3Abook%3D5%3Asection%3D1313bhttps://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0058%3Abook%3D5%3Asection%3D1314a
>>524038469Hitler had his flaws, and maybe the death of jews even was semi-incidental. They actually tried to get rid of them by other means first.>but the Allies literally wouldn't take themWhat then, when you literally cannot get rid of the jews by any other means? Because at the time, incidentally, nobody wanted jews?>tfw jews are worth as much as a jannies wageAnd as it turns out there was no shortage of ways in which jews might die. Carbon monoxide, bullets, starvation, typhus, Zyklon B, fire, and so on.>it's almost like nature wanted it that way>>524038497I won't deny that it's strange they didn't find the graves of like 4 million jews, especially considering that many of these simply got shot, supposedly.Some were cremated thouroughly and put into bone mills, in which case I can understand there not being and leftovers.
>>524038837>Some were cremated thouroughly and put into bone millsDuring a gas shortage, using soviet truck engines they had no replacement parts for?kekthat's a lot of wasted energy when bullets were cheap and would have done the job, just not feeding them or burying them alive would have done the job even more cheaply. No, we're supposed to believe they used the bulk of their scarce energy supplies and other resources to draw out the deaths as long as possible, then draw it out so far they failed to mass kill the majority of them. Imagine being that gullible for this long, it's like you can be programmed to believe anything... including that men are born in women's bodies are race doesn't exist.
>>524038825>Every government in history, regardless of ideology, commits mass murder.Ok so now we've moved from "it didn't happen" to "well everybody does it.You're grasping at straws.
>>524037723>Then there's the objectively ignorant/stupid people who saw a bunch of nonsense on TikTok and fell for it.These are the most pernicious because it's mainstream and pervasive while almost entirely based on pathos and trendiness. Therefore it's disjointed from reality. At least the first group you mentioned don't outright deny it (they claim less than 6 million were killed), the tik tokers think it never even happened
wow when did the sheenie squad arrive? wait for the revisionists to leave then shit up the thread? i can conclude, no jews were gassed with carbon monoxide poisoning in he holocaust
>>524019822The think to understand about the holocaust debate is that it isn't actually about the holocaust or the jews.the actual question at the center of the issue is whether or not national socialism is a legitimate political ideological. Opponents to national socialism rarely try to refute the ideology on its merits, and instead resort to the position that there can be no possibility of entertaining the idea of national socialism as a political theory because of the holocaust. the argument is that if the ideology leads to such attrocities then it can never be considered.so go so far as to claim that no reasoned discussion can be had with a national socialist and that they should all be killed on sight like dangerous animals.Obviously, proponents of national socialism disagree with this view.national socialists recognize the holocaust as a barrier to civic discourse of their ideology.therefore, national socialists are almost required to deny the holocaust, even if they believe it happened, and even if they believe it was justified.this will never work and it means that any attempted discussion of national socialism as an ideology always devolves into a debate about the holocaust.personally, I think the better argument is rather than attempting to refute the holocaust, to refute the significance of it.The Holocaust was not the first genocide of it's kind, nor the largest, nor the most recent.It was predominately a product of the unique demographic and social conditions of Germany at the time, and not a natural evolution of any of the policies inherent to national socialism
>>524019822It unquestionably happened>>>/wsg/6048809
>>524020649anecdotes are not evidence.not the use of the word "shame" this is to shift the discussion away from one of facts to one of emotions and morality.this is because morality is defined by the victor."our cause was just because we won". etc.this person probably doesn't know a single thing about national socialism or any of its policies.
>>524037739>most Jews are just as NPC as everyone else and are indoctrinated by elite JewsBingoThis is the truth of the jewish conspiracy that most anons haven't accepted yet."jews" run the world in the same way you would say "italians" run the mob.technically true, but a more accurate assessment is that it is a small group of wealthy and connected individuals pulling the strings