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How do you know that anything exists beyond here and now?
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>>524029889
I know, on the other side of the planet, there exist a shit posting faggot.
I just know.
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>>524030016
fpbp
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>>524029889
It's just here and now, nowhere else to go.
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>>524029889
because black science man went into space and black science men would never lie
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>>524029889

It is an irrelevant notion. Just like your existence in the here and now.
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>>524030016
But when I'm posting, it's here and now. When you're reading the post it's also here and now. Explain that.
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>>524030240
Irrelevant to what? You can't use "irrelevant" as a standalone term, even though many people erroneously do this. "Irrelevant" means "not connected with or relevant to something". That "something" has to either be known from context or be stated, and it's neither of those here.
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>>524030826
>When you're reading the post it's also here and now
No, it was then, not now.
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>>524033494
You can't prove that anything other than right now and right here exists. Anything "there" or "then" is never actually present in your consciousness, it's always just a memory or secondhand information. Maybe there is no other person on the other side of the globe, maybe there is no yesterday, you have no proof there is. A photo is not proof. When you're looking at a photo supposedly taken last year, you're not looking at anything last year, you're looking at a piece of paper or pixels on a screen. When you're looking at a star and you're supposedly seeing the star millions of years in the past, you're not actually looking at that star millions of years in the past, you're looking at the light rays that are right here right now which supposedly left the star millions of years ago but which you have no proof is the case.
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>You can't prove that anything other than right now and right here exists
Any attempt to prove now immediately becomes then. There is no now, but there WILL BE!
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>>524034367
>Now< doesn't need proof. It's by definition that which is >present< in your consciousness. >Knowing< by definition is when something is in your mind or consciousness. By definition the present time is known, and by definition anything else is not known, and is unknowable. It's not a scientific question, it's a philosophical and semantic/conceptual one. Mind and matter are by definition always separate. By definition matter never enters into the mind. By definition mind and here and now are all that's known and knowable, and by definition matter, then and there are unknown and unknowable and unprovable.

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/5827/5827-h/5827-h.htm
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By not being schizophrenic



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