Everyone in society can't sit around reading books all day. If you aren't well-educated, for example, in History, how can you be expected to make informed decisions on what direction the country should go in? The fields have to be tilled. The machines that till the fields have to be designed, manufactured, operated, oiled, and repaired. Democracy seems like a pipe dream. It's really just a code word for middle class.Democracy was limited to one city, back in the day. 200k people in Athens' hayday (450-400BCE), mostly workers, craftsmen, women and children. Perhaps only 10 or 15% of the population would have been educated, voting citizens. They had to be educated in the basics of all subjects, and had to go out to the public squares (forums) every day, to discuss politics, philosophy, the economy, etc. Democracy can't function without this.So if someone doesn't read, doesn't debate, doesn't have time to do either of those things, then how can his vote be respected? Sure, he knows what he needs in his town and village, and the citizens at the top of the food chain can't know that. But back in the day, the King would hold audience with advisors, mayors, people of the town, if they needed something, and decide whether he could afford to grant their request.
>>524031862>700 page leftist wall of text about horizontal vs verticalkek, not reading that
>>524031862Ok but the top of that pyramid is saudis
Moreover, they had Direct Democracy: Every citizen voted on every issue (I heard). Now, we have Representative Democracy: We vote for representatives to vote on issues for us.The goal was to remove corruption and have a more stable system, where even if a king was killed, the country could continue. Well, we still have corruption, more than before, by the looks of it. And we're spinning our wheels, educating so many people half-assedly, and then relying on international slaves to do the work. So the middle class citizen doesn't have a good education, but still votes, and doesn't do very hard work either. He does his boring number-crunching job all day, then watches a soap opera when he comes home. His soap operas brainwash him into voting in this or that way, which wouldn't happen if he spent that time reading and debating with people.Democracy is just Feudalism in disguise. It's not that it could work if implemented properly: it can't work. It's an attempt to level the playing field, do away with hierarchy and class. But this is not possible. Farmer ants have to farm, soldier ants have to defend the colony, the queen has to decide what workers the colony needs, based on what her advisors communicate to her.Don't fall for the donkey and carrot routine. Either read the books, apply your knowledge and invent things, or don't complain when you don't move up the social ladder.
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>>524032005Ackshully it's ultra-rightist.
>>524032293Case in point
>>524032395Your system seems to allude to a single point of authority, and indeed failure. The Soviet Union had a similar philosophy. The fabrication of information led to its demise. Without the honest integrity of the simpleton working the field, the reality of the crop yield won't truly be known. Here is a provocative yet lust provoking image to help subconsciously sway your opinion to favour my viewpoint. Do note that I have no emotional attachment to the outcome of my argument.
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>>524032292What are you even advocating for? A caste system?
>>524032292No, they are representatives of our owners.
>>524032663The Pharaohs taxed the farmers' grain based on the water level of the Nile, the amount of food that could be produced based on that, because farmers would lie that they hadn't produced as much food as they did. What we have right now is similarly chaotic times to Egypt's First Intermediary Period. "There were as many kings as there were days in the year. The Bedouins feast on the banks of the Nile. The Kings' bodies are taken from their tombs and strewn across the dunes. The slaves wear necklaces of lapis and azurite."We have a society of corrupt leaders, whiny and lazy nobles who don't read and don't invent anything, guards who don't train or want to fight, because the inventors aren't equipping them properly; poisoned food because we're whipping the slaves to do more than they're able to because we're not doing our job properly either, and being lazy.The chaos will continue until people at every level of society realizes that they have to work hard, do the right thing, pursue virtue, avoid vice. If the King is lazy and spends all day doing drugs and fucking concubines, that is a big problem. The King who is industrious and applies himself will lead his country to excellence.The clowns and puppeteers are currently the rulers, and have made the country, and the world, into a circus. It will remain that way as long as we laugh at the little guy who's in pain, take more than we've earned, watch anime all day, read nothing, etc.
>>524032941I'm saying the caste system is inevitable, and also not "evil" or "the problem with the world." Everyone has the ability to move up or down the pyramid of society. Every society in history has light-skinned rulers and dark-skinned farmers. If you want a better life, work hard and do the right thing, and you will be rewarded.Clowns and CIA operatives will try to con you into becoming a drug dealer. Some people will get conned. But it's our job as compassionate Whites to encourage the slaves we meet to be virtuous, read the books, get off drugs, and be kind about it. The alternative is them attacking us and blaming us for their problems (which would be partially true, in that scenario).Some White plantation owners, back in the day, treated their slaves well. They fail to mention that in History class, of course.The problem isn't hierarchy. It's laziness, immaturity, cheating. Lazy kings fail, and should. That's how it's always been. That's how it is even in the animal kingdom.
>>524033559I think the Marxist counterargument would be that abolishing class is not the same thing as abolishing hierarchy. The latter is a necessary functional structure, the former is a system of privilege and wealth distribution that separates people into quasi-castes and leads to the exploitation of the people farther down the ladder by the people farther up it
>>524035605There are good kings and bad kings. The king can't survive if he doesn't have workers feeding everyone and guards protecting them. The guards and farmers also depend on the king to make good decisions. They depend on the guards and jury to administer justice when there are issues among themselves. If anyone in the hierarchy doesn't do his job properly, and cheats, lies, or steals, the whole thing starts to crumble.The good king knows he relies on his workers, and treats them as well as he can. Things are obviously more complicated, the larger the hierarchy gets. We now have a global kingdom - we in the First World directly benefit from the labor of those in the 3rd world.You talk about class and privilege. Man A works hard, wins the race, gets a trophy. Man B, who was in the same place in society as Man A, doesn't work hard, loses the race, gets no trophy. Man A sells the trophy for money, gives it to his children. His children now have a better place in society as a result of his hard work, and they should. Who on Earth would come up with the idea that they shouldn't? That it's somehow wrong or unfair?
>>524035605Obviously, there's corruption and exploitation. Giving crack to Blacks and conning them into making rap music and being degenerate. But what's the argument that Whites always make, in relation to Blacks? Well, if they didn't steal, weren't violent, then we wouldn't have as much of a problem with them. When of course a lot of those things are a result of what we did to them.There doesn't have to be corruption and exploitation though. Some plantation owners treated their slaves well. You can give charity or business loans to poor countries if you're rich, and we do. You recognize that there's a hierarchy in life, and we are higher up than most, but that's not "The Problem." The problem, no matter where you are in the hierarchy, is laziness, immaturity, lying, stealing, cheating, etc. You can get away with it for a while, but you will be discovered eventually. The slaves will get angry and revolt, and they should. You are partly to blame for that. It's your fault, as king, that you didn't oust the clowns and puppeteers who have been convincing Blacks that Whites are to blame for literally all their problems, and that they should be violent as a result.
>>524035605The other problem with Marxism, I gather, is that the ultimate goal is the dissolution of class, the government, and ultimately anarchy. Correct me if I'm wrong. Not only will this fail because hierarchy will once again resume, on a smaller scale, with local gangs, which will become warlords, which will become kings; but also because not everyone works as hard or is as creative as everyone else. So why should everyone be rewarded equally for inequal work? Others have pointed out the problem of work incentive: Why work hard or go to school to become a specialized laborer, if the guy working at McDonald's is making the same amount as you do, for half the amount of effort?I guess, technically, what I'm talking about is kind of communistic: recognize that everyone has value in society and work hard, so that society as a whole benefits... Doing the right thing and working hard includes being smart, protecting yourself, your family, your wealth from corrupt bankers; ousting degenerates, trash, and brainwashers...My point is that class and hierarchy is unavoidable, and not The Problem.
>>524035605How many people working in a comfortable office for 40 hours a week got convinced that there was something terribly wrong with their lives, and that they were "slaves with White collars" by Fight Club, Office Space, etc.? A lot. But the logical conclusion of Fight Club is a denial of civilization, of power, which is a delusion or ruse. Women and children need protection, and civilization itself protects us from the violent beasts of the jungle that stole our children in the night.Some writers and artists have a day job, then go home and work on their art. They do a good job, make a name for themselves, and then are able to quit their day job and be an artist full time. Other artists curse The Man, starve, and end up nowhere fast.Living in the woods is nice, when you read about it, but you end up realizing it's a lot of work, and you're doing very little art. And you can't have a family, which is a big part of life, like it or not. A society of all warriors will lose against one that has some warriors and some nerds and blacksmiths to make better weapons for them. Ants have been playing this game for 60 million years, and look and act the way they do, with specialized roles and body types, for a reason. It takes a lifetime to master one subject area, and to contribute to it with something new. You can't be a great mathematician and a great warrior at the same time.
>>524035605You have good farmers and bad farmers. Great chefs and bad cooks. Those who do well, are rewarded and move up. Those who don't are punished and move down.Humans are at the top of the food chain because we slaughtered all the other animals and built big walls to keep them at bay. Marxists fail to realize this, using their brains that that domination over the beasts of Nature has afforded them.When it's not a con or a ruse, it's naivete or delusion.
>>524031862yeah, democracy and voting are a joke, next question?
