>>524051147
>>524051147We will have it again
>>524051224When?
>>524051147We haven't had privacy since the world wide web and Intel management engine back in the mid 90s
>>524051287When we expose the doxxing and the doxxers I have all the evidence physically available for whoever wanna have itYears of gangstalking got me all I need
>>524051197But you should. I don't see why you use windows bloatware
>>524051337where did you get that setup.exe from? i just wrote install firefox in my terminal
>>524051147Privacy is for closers only
>>524051394Because if you don't care about the constant spying it's functionally just as shitty as linux bloatware.
>>524051559Linux mint uses like 1gb of ram, while windows 11 uses 8gbs, has a garbage Ai program and many unnecessary processes that fuck you in the ass
>>524051411Ah, the eternal slave to the package manager. You have to eat whatever they feed you. No choice to use an old version. You are subject to the endless present.
>>524051650As an avid linux users I can say categorically that I know you're lying; but setting that aside for a moment, 1GB of RAM to do literally nothing is fucking absurd. Windows 95 ran, with programs, in 4MB of RAM. I used a 256MB RAM PC for years on Windows 98 and even used Visual Studio 6.0 on it and it was significantly faster than Fedora is on my comparative supercomputer today. I mean look at this shit.
>>524051147>sasser>blaster>Melissa virus>iloveyou virus>Bifrost>conficker>CryptoLocker>WannaCry>Petya>NotPetya>TinbaTop kek.
>>524051793>no choice to use an old versionhttps://archive.archlinux.org/
>>524052044>avid linux user>shills for windows for the past 5000 threadsdo you truly think you convinced anyone? or do you just get paid per post?
>>524052341Its all or nothing. You either use all the latest software, or none at all.
>>524052386I have no idea who you think I am but I think this is the first time I've spoken even vaguely positively about Windows in 2 decades. Modern Windows is unusable. Modern linux is pretty much unusable. I've been reduced to ricing gentoo USE flags to get a system that isn't so unimaginably fucked that it actually runs at a somewhat acceptable speed.
>>524052461I just showed you where you can get whatever version you want
>>524052486you're not even changing your flag or the way you speak dude
>>524051197If you don’t want people to suggest Linux then maybe stop complaining nonstop about Windows. You made your choice now accept the consequences
>>524052540>the homogeneous society scares and confuses MosheMany such cases.
>>524052491Mixing and matching random packages does not work in general due to dependency conflicts.
>>524052605it doesn't work, literally just doesn't work and never has worked on anyone>>524052616neither does this
You gotta grow up sometime.
>>524051793You know .deb files exist right
>>524051197Nobody mentioned Linux, besides you
>>524052616It works just as well as it does on Windows if you do what Windows does which is have every binary retain a copy of their DSO dependencies. If we were smart we'd have thrown out the dynamic linking crap after Sun determined that it wasn't worth it and just statically linked everything and it would Just Work™ but then how would you load 100MB of GPU "driver" into your address space in user space. Put drivers in the kernel? Never! Everyone loves dependency hell.
>>524052713Mwahaha
>>524051391nobody is gangstalking you, why would they do it, because you said nigger on 4chan? you my friend have schizofrenia that is forcing you to think everything SUS is just glows stalking you
>>524051147Just use tor if you're paranoid
>>524052560The Linux troons are the ones who complain about Windows. And when they start complaining, there always seems to be another Linux troon in the thread to suggest switching to Linux. What a coincidence!
>>524052873>Mm, how dare you complain about the shittiest user experience in the world, mm, let me eat this microjeet shit in peace, you fucking fascist!some people deserve their slavedom
>>524051337> Apt install application> To build an app from source code Vs> Use browser to download random executable and run it with root privileges on your system.To me it seems like Linux is much simpler and safer alternative, the amount of malware on my dad's PC from clicking the top link on google is a testament to that.
>I hate Windows!>No don't tell me to use Linux You get what you fucking deserve.
>>524053113Gotta play games. Linux cant do it. This is no different than the Mac vs PC argument 25 years ago.
Just use whatever OS you want, there's backdoors everywhere these days. Even if you had secure hardware and software I'm sure 99.9% if people would still comp themselves as soon as the they log on.
>>524053169Not only can it do it now but due to recent innovations from Microsoft it's also apparently significantly faster at running Windows software than Windows now. For all its faults, linux distros simply can't become slower as fast as Microsoft.
>>524053113I like windows (7)Same install for over 10 years, never a BSOD
>>524051197>First post, Linux not being mentioned whatsoeverLinux hate is completely organic and not a cult. And most definitely not being promoted by microsoft tech jeet support
>>524052714Windows provides a useful baseline of stable functionality. Linux does not even have a standard api to create a window or output sound.
>>524054157Linux (+ X11) weren't really all that different in this respect. It's just that unlike on Windows, half the devs who went "this is shit" actually had the option to replace it and a sizeable portion of them tried. X11 has had the same stable interface dating all the way back to the '80s. OSS was actually pretty good in that you just open /dev/dsp and write() some audio samples to it but in classic linux fashion we wanted both the ability to control sound on a really low level and also just have regular desktop audio work and ended up with something in between that everyone was unhappy with because Unix is missing the crucial ability to create special files in user space, union mounting, and namespaces.
If you still use windows, you're beyond a slave. Imagine getting ads in your start menu kek.
>>524052784This is glorious why wouldn't you accept the gangstalking as real in our caseI mean Tay is there they spray painted her plane
>>524054496That's somehow not even the worst thing about the new start menu.
>>524053169>linux can't do itwhat makes you say this? name 1 game you can't play on linux that's not live-service multishitter slop?
>>524053169Wait till gabebox drops
by 2030 we will have chinese CPUs available for home users
>>524051337Brainlet detected
>>524054581EXECUTE ALL REACT NIGGERS
>>524055075I just love that all those normies on their laptops are now listening to a jet engine taking off every time they click "start."
>>524051374remember Echelon?
>>524052044this tbqhfamalam
>>524054581holy shit total pajeetification
>>524053870Linux is for trannies
Look, tiling windows. Penguins are astonished by this technology. Windows had it in 1985.
>>524051394linux sucks for gaming. Gaming is the most important app for a PC
>>524054702I'm not dropping $1200 on it. I can just get PC upgrades.
>>524057502Laughs in steamos
>>524057502even doe it works on my mint machine through proton. you're not playing triple gay slop are you?
>>524057436why is this meme repeated ad infinitum? gaming is better on linux than windows
>>524051337>sido apt update && sudo apt upgrade are nothing to do with some random .exe>wine lol>if you want to use mint, install mintYour shoesize iq is showing..
>>524051147I have 2 Windows XP's, never gave a shit about anything else.So long as my crt works.Everythi g else is easier to get parts.
>>52405133730 years later linux still has not advanced from this stage lol30 fucking years of this shit and nobody ever thought of making it not insufferable as fuck
>>524051197Up to 38% performance improvement from Win11 to CachyOS.It's your performance you're paying with, have fun.
>>524059784>typing in download firefox in terminal is insufferable as fuckturk detected
Its comedy how far shills will go to slow down the rise of linux and the computer (you) own, to the point they accidentally derailed this entire thread to pre-empt it
>>524059784It has app stores.It has the terminal for people who prefer it, but the popular distros today don't need it for everyday use by the average PC enjoyer anymore.And if you're just on PC for gaming and browser use, Bazzite is near enough a one-click install that you can't fuck up.CachyOS is Arch preconfigured for gaming, pretty sure it has KDE as the standard GUI.SteamOS is virtually the same in principle but comes with Valve as the support network, and will be available as a PC release with the Steam Machine. Another basic install procedure.The question Linux users should ask is "can a child do the laundry".Can a child do the cooking.Can a child install Linux.10 years ago, no. 5 years ago, no. Today, yes. And with that, it's only a matter of time before the performance advantages of Linux get people to migrate away from Hindows.
>>524059968which windows do you dual boot?every linux user uses a different windows version, which one is yours?
>>524060355used windows 10 for a while until removing it when I realized that I don't need it nor do I want to use it
>>524060355I'm sure you're right about most but genuine question: why?
>>524051414Jews like this film too, eh?
>>524060231here’s the thing though, nobody wants an app store pandering to the mobile phone generation and all the buzz words you’re throwing around, bazzite, cachyos arch whatever the fuck that is i don’t care and i don’t want to knowthe fact that you have to know what it is and what it does and why you need it is the major ick why nobody uses linux. nobody wants to interact with it beyond pressing the power button and it works. everything else just gives major icki know how to use linux because i installed it once. but i got tired looking everything up so i could barely get it to work, and since that hasn’t changed since then, i don’t touch it anymore. no, i don’t want to spend hours researching which one of the trillions of distros get shilled by neckbeards with fotm syndrome. no, i don’t want to tell my pc every single thing it has to do. i’m an adult with a job and bills to pay, i don’t need a pain in the ass just to play single player games. even if it works, i just want it to work and i don’t want to do any of the things. understood?
>>524060825>i don't know anything about linux but i will lecture people on itmehmet....
>>524051337>"jarvis, help me get xyz for my linux">ctrl + c>ctrl + v>ctrl + c>ctrl + v>ctrl + c>ctrl + v>ctrl + c>ctrl + v
>>524060915>not using primary selection + middle clicknigger detected
>>524060867>strawmanq.e.d.
>>5240513742006 was when Intel Managment was implemented. Just sayin. For AMD it wasnt until 2013 when they implemented PSP or whatever.
Only naughty goyim want privacy.
>>524061029>strawmanhow is it a strawman? you literally admitted that you don't know jack shit about linux, yet you have all these elaborate opinions on it, how hard it is to use, how you can't do things the exact same way you do them on windows (I literally click on exe files and open them, just like on windows). where did you get all that information from? a winjeet shill? an article from 2005?
>>524051337Only white people are smart enough to use Linux
>>524057502i don't use linux full time but it's a LOT better for gaming now, it either works right out of the box or with a little bit of techy knowhow (or a search engine, or an LLM... etc if you're not very /g/) you can get stuff working in a few minutes. the real bottleneck is anti-cheat last i checked (and it has been a while, to be fair), if you're a big competitive multiplayer guy you might have some issues
>>524051337>setup.exe>spamware has been successfully installed>no anti virus will ever find it either
>>524061137(You)
>>524051147Because you're a pedophile
>>524051147Bad example. That OS shipped without a firewall which meant it would be infected with malware before you even finished installing/updating it.
>>524061185not that anyone thought that you weren't a shill, but you really didn't need to out yourself like that, mehmet
>>524051197Yes
>>524061297(You)
>>524060867Hes explaining his perspective as someone who wants a simple working product and youre trying to make fun of him for not being more of an expert in your nigger osYou encapsulate every reason why Linux will never be popular. Its because everyone using it is a massive annoying faggot who acts like a 14 year old high-school boy.
>>524061268>>524061268The router itself provides a stateful firewall you mentally handicapped bong. Do you still have a dial up modem in your XVIII century pile of bricks?
>>524061419>jeet coming in to defend his shill turk boyfriendhe came in here saying all this shit about how hard it is, WITHOUT KNOWING ANYTHING ABOUT IT, as he admitted it himself. also, don't get the wrong idea, I don't want you faggots to start using linux lmao, what would I get from that?
>>524061521(You)
>>524051197The absolute irony of this post.
>>524061172It will presumably be "fixed" soon since Microsoft took a ton of shit over the whole Crowdstrike thing and are saying they're no longer going to allow random retards in kernel space.
>>524061553didn't even respond to you AHHAAHHAHAHA relax mehmet
>>524061521Grep my shit for chunks of corn nigga
>>524059968>Firefox
>>524061419look how this massive neckbeard incel typed all that shit and he can’t even read. i explained how i had to sift through the shit that is linux to get it to work and found it just so retarded that i dropped it but apparently i know literally nothing about it
>>524061611(You) farmer is reeling in all the catch today
>>524061631I post nigger child gore on firefox DAILY, and the only thing they can do is suck my BWCif you care there's a plethora of other browsers you can get, though>>524061662>sir I was working day and night on linux trying to get it to work, b-but I DON"T EVEN KNOW WHAT ARCH LINUX ISBAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
>>524061662You will never know enough about linux for these faggots who also continue to say how easy it is to use
>>524061750>plethora of other browsersYeah like Firefox, Chrome, Chrome, Chrome, Firefox, Chrome, Chrome, Chrome, Chrome, Chrome, Chrome, Firefox and Chrome.
>>524061836meant to say offshoots of firefox, but really it's pointless since he's just latching onto the smallest thing in an attempt to get some win against me, such is the method of winjeet shills
>>524061510>The router itself provides a stateful firewall you mentally handicapped bong. Do you still have a dial up modem in your XVIII century pile of bricks?Back in those days I was using a USB DSL modem, so yes my computer would be immediately raped by malware if it connected to the internet without a software firewall.(Note that this is still a problem today for VPN users. VPN bypasses router and exposes your computer directly to the internet. Modern Windows come with integrated firewalls however, so this is not a problem for average users.)
>>524061750and there it is, the mental illness required to use linux is revealedget well soon
>>524061750another cowardly memeflaggot. it's either a jew or a jeet. same shit different country.
>>524061975HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, since you're such a little faggot I might as well give you some trauma for daring to shit up threads on this dogshit website
>>524061103Privacy was a comforting illusion, while it lasted. But now that we're awake, it's spies all the way down.
>>524062048>literally pic related
>>524062045>cowardlyhuh? I just said that I'm posting nigger child gore on a spied on browser yet I'm cowardly? you're albanian btw(I'm a Serbian living in croatia, don't mistake me for a cuckold croat)
>>524062099>reddit memesyou just know you're Aryaning it out when faggots start posting predditor memes in reply to you
>>524062104forgot your memeflag, edgy boi
>>524061934I'm not trying to get a win against you I'm trying to point out that Firefox is a poor choice of a browser and you should use (Chromium based) Brave instead.
>>524062142I took it off TO PROVE A POINT TO THE GUY REPLYING TO ME, YOU 50 IQ TURKROACH RETARD>>524062163I hate chromium though, also hasn't there been some cucky things from brave too?
>>524061750>I post nigger child gore on firefox DAILY>>524062048>>524062140This isn't healthy behavior. You might want to reassess your choices.
>>524061934I'm honestly at a loss now since firefox has decided to become fAIrefox with 145... I need a browser for work and it's basically an insurmountable task to make my own. There's the Ladybird project but they're probably not going to deliver anything even borderline compatible with the "the implementation is the standard" hodgepodge we have today and on top of that they're OOP retards so it's going to be a crime against CPUs no matter what happens.
>>524061819that’s just it, using linux is just another manifestation of a special (needs) club that you can only join with some sort of mental illness attached.it’s never about providing a working product, it’s about shitposting condescending comments in order to engagement bait and fake outrage bait
>>524051197The Linux user didn't have to ask permission to use the bathroomFinishes peeing in half the time He is confident flashing his much larger e-peen as a boast.
>>524062264Just use Brave Browser, and get on with your life. You don't need to deep think. "I need to make my browser my own", no you don't you little weirdo. You need it to work, and to block ads. Then you go outside and touch grass
>>524062261>delighting in dead shitskins is unhealthy behavioryou should probably get rid of your jewish brainwashing>>524062264until ladybird comes out (if ever) the only other real alternatives are one of the heavily edited firefox-based ones like floorp, waterfox or librewolf. or pale moon lol
>>524052341Boooo
>>524061819>>524062317I've been using linux for only a year, with basically going to arch linux immediately with barely any knowledge. just because you're retarded enough to not be able to follow instructions online doesn't mean that we're some sort of elitists, we just have an iq above 65
>>524062390>Just use Chromeno.
>>524062489AAHHH!!
>>524053113Hoohaaa
>>524051337>Wine>ntfsWhat kind of absolute retard tries to use programs for Microsoft Windows on a computer running Linux if there's a perfectly useful alternative that runs natively on Linux?That's why you gotta have two partitions or a secondary Windows-only PC/laptop if you happen to be in the cucked situation that you have one or two programs that you gotta use that only run on Windows.Even black people from Kenya know this.
>>524053113Hoohaaa hooooo
>>524051147>I miss when we had privacy.If you don't know how to be private in 2025 you're NGMI!
>>524062317Hooo haaaa
>>524061975Koookooo kaaaakaaaa
>>524059784Because the linux nerds are proud that they had to rote memorize 500 pages of command prompts straight from 80's. They couldn't give a shit about making Linux usable, revolutionizing the OS world and becoming the standard OS, because they would lose their pride and that might be the only source of pride most of them have.
>>524062854>more strawmanning from 50iqers that can't follow instructions, nor remember 3 commands that they need for their daily useyawnies
>>524062505again, if it doesn’t work by pressing the power button, i don’t care. eat shit and die, niggerfaggot. 30 years and you could not advance further than this. kill yourselves
>>524051147You miss the days where you could be antisemitic? Fuck off
>>524060825>Nobody wants an app store pandering to the mobile phone generationPerhaps app store is a poor term for people who've been cast out by normie scum.Central repo is better. It's basically a built-in GitHub release page anyway. Same thing, different branding (and obviously no commit or issues pages on the software's page).>Bazzite, CachyOS Arch whatever the fuck that is I don't care and I don't want to knowWhat the fuck is this Windows thing, is that for computer nerds or something? Why don't you come to the park and hangout man, Windows 95 I don't know what that is and I don't care.>Nobody wants to interact with it beyond pressing the power button and it worksThat's exactly where it is right now.That a bunch of retards on youtube make ragebait content where they deliberately destroy their install by fucking up customisations and tearing out modules improperly, doesn't mean that your basic popular computer software doesn't just work.>I know how to use Linux because I installed it once but got tiredLet me fucking guess, 2010?It's been 15 years, do you really think it's still the same?Are you really going to project your own bad memories of a past that's no longer the condition of Linux, onto the present and the future?Are you genuinely going to tell people if they ask that they should just stick with Windows 11 and lose 38% of their gaming performance just because you are demoralised with life, hate your social and work circumstances, hate yourself, and are scared to observe the changing environment?You do you man.Don't speak for anyone but yourself.
>>524062960advance furter than what, retard? there's linux mint where it works exactly the same as it does on windows, you don't even need to use a terminal there. but of course, you don't know anything about what linux mint is or anything, right? of course, someone that's fiddled around with linux for HOUUUURS like how you said, trying to get it work, just DOESN'T KNOW about the most normalfag, 50iq needed to use linux distro, OH WAIT, you don't know what a distro is :/ that sucks man, how did you miss so many things when you apparently tried to get into linux? really weird how some 50iqers can warp reality huh
>>524063048don't even bother with replying so seriously to these shills, that guy doesn't even know what a distro is
>>524062854You misunderstand, Äteritsiputeritsipuolilautatsijänkä. There's currently a tradeoff between child-friendliness and immediate usefulness. I need to do seemingly random processing tasks with my computer on a daily basis. I simply can't do this with a GUI today. I genuinely wish I could but no one has figured out how to make a graphical interface that's also highly composable. If you have the magic solution then for the love of god PLEASE tell me and I'll make it happen.
>>524053169I can understand people who use Windows because they gotta do PLC programming work or make designs on AutoCAD/Solidworks, or even work on enterprise resource planning programs, but I don't understand people who say they *have* to have Windows to play video games.
>>524062934I have seen enough Linux usage in practice to know it's exactly as I described. They don't want to do anything easily, like in Windows, they prefer it like that, and thus the user interface is an exhibition of IT history straight from the 80's, forever.
>>524061419How much did you know about Windows before you first started using it, and how did you get good at Windows?Linux is the exact same right now.Same install procedure, same startup procedure, same login feature as Windows has, same browsers, and it has Steam but unlike with Windows you don't have to go look for the installer on Valve's website (not with every distribution).
>>524063085>linux mintdon’t care what that is and don’t want to know
>>524051147Switch to linux and you'll have just as much privacy>B-but linux sucks!Try mint nigga
>>524063191from what year, 2005?>>524063215yeah we know that, you somehow fiddled around with linux but don't even know what a distro is. you're a 50 iq shill we understand we get it, you're getting a big payday for this from blaskchowitz for sure
>>524063085>linux mint where it works exactly the same as it does on windowsNah, Mint is the distro for guys who want Great Value brand OS X. Regular folx just use Ubuntu.
>>524063159I (and 99% of PC users) don't need to do "random processing tasks" with my computer ever, whatever that just means. I am using the computer, not developing some fucking software. And if using the software needs professional dev skills, it's an useless shit machine and all you work is a circlejerk, signifying nothing, becoming nothing.
>>524057502Ok so you can't play league of legends anymore, I see that as a good thing
>>524063294same discussion for 30 yearsyour product still doesn’t work, and you’re still condescending about itICK
>>524063294A week ago last time, or something. It was exactly the same as in 2005.
>>524063372I don't process random tasks or anything of the sort. I play games, I post on 4chan (mostly nigger child gore HAHA), watch movies, anime... the exact same things I did on windows.
>>524063441Steam Deck runs Linux and it works beautifully.
>>524063292If you really wanted privacy, you'd take notes using a pencil and paper, talk to people in person, buy stuff from street vendors or on farmers' markets, get information from physical books or magazines, and pay for everything you can in cash.
>>524063441Works great! Name one thing that you don't think works :)>>524063464super weird. were you looking at something purposefully complicated or are you just actually 23 iq? my arch linux doesn't require any fiddling, I simply use it.
>>524063372They're called "computers" because they compute things. You are not computing things. Why do you have a computer?
524063556you can’t even agree with other linux brainwashed which specific combinations of programs to get which you have to manually fix by googling decade old solutions is best. shut the fuck up already, you’re shilling nothing here. you gain nothing except engagement bait
>>524052044>Windows 95 ran, with programs, in 4MB of RAM.Now the memory requirement are 1000x that.What the fuck happened?
524063682no idea what you're even talking about at this point. we were simply discussing browers and you take it out of proportion? weirdo behavior. also I can't shill linux since it's free and I gain nothing from it, and I especially don't want winjeet tards to start shitting it up either.
>>524063492Maybe because it's a steam deck
>>524063793... which is literally a mini computer with linux installed on it.
>>524063745Well they switched to the NT kernel (good choice, windows.exe on top of DOS was fucking terrible) and all the protected mode stuff ended up bumping the RAM requirement to 32MB and then I don't really know what happened after that.
>>524051224Once you lose something, its incredibly difficult to get it back
>>524051147bill gates and EVERYONE associated with him needs to be reamed out with audits every day for the rest of their lives. fuck their absolute dogshit products and their predatory practices
>>524051147I miss when we had a world worth living in.
>>524063629I am writing shit, editing videos, making Excels, playing games and so forth. I don't need to "compute things", I suppose that means writing some new code to calculate something very special, with no previously built expert software existing. Are you truly autistic enough to think that because you are some software dev, all PC users are software devs and their using experience should be like yours? If all you Linux nerds are like that, you will still be desperately shilling Mint #107284962.5435.q124.234 in the year 2125 or something.
>>524063629As much as I agree with your statement, a computer does actually do a lot of computing in the background whenever it has to calculate and then output the values of the gradient of colors so as to display a soft transition between a pair of colors on Gimp or any other image-editing program. It also does FFT (fast Fourier transforms) to decompose a series of signals into sinusoid waves for the sake of sound and image processing on both video editing and video reproducing programs. Whenever you pay for stuff using your credit or debit card online, there are usually plenty of cryptographic algorithms involving calculating factorials and scrambling and unscrambling sequences of bits so as to ensure the secure transmission of data that will allow for the right user to send the right amount of money to the right account.Math is everywhere, even if ordinary people never get to notice it at work.
>>524063979>winblows is so objectively shit right now you guys>entire OS market literally up for grabs at this point, just don’t be windows is the single requirement for years>still, nobody used linux and no trend of increasing is ever observedwow that’s odd, they could have a home run 100% market share by just having 1 (one) product that worksso what’s their product?>ACK
>>524064063>making Excels,???
>>524063085A single problem with display auto detection and you are back to 2008, editing manually config files and getting a black screen of death.The only difference is that in 2008 search engines worked well and the internet was full of relevant info. Things changed for worse since then.
>>524064063Why do you need a machine to waste time? There are so many ways to waste time that doesn't involve trillions of nanoscopic silicon semiconductors.
>>524064268what are the chances of that happening? would you really enslave yourself to winshit on the offchance that this one bad thing can happen, one bad thing that you can fix in 5 minutes by googling it? sure web engines are shit nowadays but you can still find help
>>524063793People have taken the OS, installed it on normal PCs and it runs fine if they're AMD systems.Some games have some glitches due to driver specifics, but the general desktop experience is normieproof.
>>524064211Excel spreadsheets are not calculation as I and also the Linux nerds understand the word. If pilpul kikery about the definitions of words is best you can do to defend Linux, I can only say you have actively made your shitty little OS completely obsolete by yourself.
>>524064370>our product comes broken but you can fix it yourself with no guarantee of actually working but you can google it>we could fix this in our distros but we choose not to just to be annoying cunts who can condescend on peoplepeopledon’twantanyofthis
>>524064308"Fuck you, don't use our product if you think it's shitty and needs development!"Oh, don't worry. I will not use it, mr. Marketing Expert.
>>524051147Use *nux
>>524064169Loontards got a window of opportunity in 2007, when MS released Vista in a state qualifying for a beta version at best.All they needed was some extra streamlining work for initial configuration and wine.They decided to abandon mature desktop interfaces: KDE 3.x and Gnome 2.x to alpha versions of KDE 4 and Gnome 3, causing bigger fragmentation than ever before and nuking all previous effort to make things working.Fuck loonix, it's a dead end. Its usability ended on launching virtual machines. Maybe in twenty years ReactOS and HaikuOs are going to make some difference.
>>524064663You not using it is not enough. It was significantly better before people like you flooded in. I want you to fuck off permanently and take all of your trash with you.
nothing used end-to-end encryption back then. everything in plain text.all people in your LAN could snoop on your IM traffic
>>524064523You just hate Linux because it was invented by a Swede
>>524051147everything about computers is disgusting now. I really dislike how it evolved over the last 15 years.
>>524063210When I got good at windows everyone was getting good at windows and there were plenty of people who knew windows and were willing to teach others that I didn't have to deal with any faggots
>>524053169Not only does linux play games well, modern windows is so bloated that linux outperforms it on several games.
>>524064824It has always been a game of catch-up
>>524064805If I ever had some millions of money, I would employ a dozen people like you and force them to create a usable and Windows-like Linux which would just work. Then it would conquer the world and demolish Micro$hit and I would be happy. People like you can still continue your circlejerk with your antique obsolete software until the Sun becomes a red giant.
>>524051337kek ,linux fags keep losing
>>524064869>No-one uses Linux because it's shitty<Noooo you are just a child>We all hate Windows but we can't use Linux because it's usable only for dev nerds<Nooooooo you are just a retard and jealous!>We would switch to Linux any time, if only I could use it as easily as my Microshit spyware<Nooooooooooo you just hate Linux because it's made by a Swede!Utterly fascinating.
>>524065026I'm afraid someone already beat you to ithttps://store.steampowered.com/steamosI would prefer to use something more technically interesting than linux but since hardware devs decided to offload all of their bullshit on software you now need to write 30 million lines of driver code to be somewhat usable.
>>524051337>missing the steps where you need to go to a website and downloads the exeOn linux you just type the package you want and it gets installed
>>524064370I used to work for several years in an environment with all workstations using linux as the only OS. The same Thinkpad model, the same distribution, the same version. You would never believe how many wild "it doesn't work"- "it works for me" things were there. X- Files.
>>524065026There are a ton of "just werks" distros and desktop environments.
>>524065466when, 2010? also, you put a bunch of retard normies who used windows all their lives and think that things would go the exact same?
>>524065466Different kernel versions https://imgur.com/gallery/welcome-anon-take-seat-koslbMs
>>524065552Well, I have heard that Mint is like that, and also stories about having to fight for hours with it to have a mouse plugged in or sounds working or some shit, exactly like in 2005. So nope. False news.
>Windows
>>524064370At some point between 2020 and 2023 a retarded tranny idiot removed some number of digital IDs of PC displays from a database. Suddenly a perfectly fine 16:10 Eizo from 2016 was detected as a default display with wrong aspect ratio, wrong resolutions and very wrong refresh rates.Remember how it started in 90s? Manually typed refresh rates that could destroy the flat CRT monitor that was worth some money? This shit is always there, the only difference is that LCDs can't be permanently damaged.
>>524065684Yeah bro and people also heard stories about gaming not being good on linxus, it's not 2008 anymore
Nigger
>>524065156notice how you never denied it
>>524051147>I miss when we had privacyThen don't use the internet. Privacy doesn't exist on the internet.
>>524065786As I said, yes, shit can happen, but you can usually fix it in an even easier manner than on windows, where shit IS constantly happening
>>5240656032017 and it was development and testing of firmware for video processing devices. I wonder if your turkish ancestors had the same passion for allah as you have for this failed OS.
>>524052486Modern distros have been comped by their large "sponsors". Linux has always been a hack fest. Ubuntu lowering the skill ramp to retards has gotten us more retards in FOSS.Things I tried this year: Devuan Excalibur (favorite for debian similarity and repo overlap), Void, and Artix.None of them have systemd. Void is the most no nonsense. Your ps will have like 12 procs in it after install not 150. But they rolled their own packager and you don't get apt.My daily driver is this devuan box now. And without systemd, it sits at 0% CPU all day, uses about 1% of system RAM, and behaves like a sysV init box from 20 years ago.
>>524066172It's irrelevant what I feel about Linus, who technically is a Finn speaking English mostly these days and living in somewhere not-Finland. But why would I hate him, even if he would be a Swede? I could hate him for making a shitty unusable OS, but it's not exactly his fault, but his retarded devs and neckbeard fanboys.
>>524051197>>524051337>OP complains about lack of privacy>Microsoft shills immediately rush in to defend WindowsIs this reverse psychology or are you guys just retarded?
>>52405978420+ years and brainlets STILL haven't realized that Linux is for BATCH COMMAND LINE OPERATIONS ON SERVERS, NOT I repeat, NOT: >playing video games >browsing the web >dragging files>using applications with UIs>etc. etc. etc. etc. It *can* do those things in the same way your eye doctor *can* perform a root canal, but why would you want him to?It's not some cool l33t alternative to Windows like you neckbeard retards seem to think, it is an entirely different operating system meant for entirely different things.
>>524066508Your lack of privacy is at the ISP level. My windows 7 shitbox with it's whitelist firewall is as private as your tinkertranny distro FACT
>>524066508>It's the Microsoft shills!Yeah, yeah. It's always anything but being incapable to make the fucking OS usable for normal humans even after decades wasted on it.
>>524051337Win11 won't even let you setup without an account and you agreeing to a shit ton of pointless features.
>>524066207W11 (I was forced to use it at work) was the first windows where problems with absolutely mundane things started to appear. Not some random first world problem like "my PC forgot window placement in my multiple display setup, I have to spend 30 seconds to re-arrange them".More like "why in the fuck this critical piece of software is no longer working after my system forced me to close everything and rebooted itself five times".
>>524066722Well exactly, that's why it even is a thing. It has to have some niche usability to be even discussed and remembered.But it's the Linux shills who pose as some guardians of the secret way to demolish Microshit and free people from its spyware dungeon. And tragicomically most of the people are already so fed up with Microshit that they would happily jump the ship, if only there would be something to jump upon. But the promise is false and has been for decades.
> privacy> windows> pick oneeven pre win 2000 windows was logging everything in an unreadable(to you) sub system after 10 years hard drive would be full even after deleting everything you could.
>>524051147When was that?
>>524066417What's the problem with systemd in 2025? You can't have a modern OS without a service like this. Modern ie on par with windows 95 or higher.
Who doesn't have multiple computers with multiple distros in this day and age kek. I'm a poorfag and even I have several, plus can distro hop with OS on usb.
>>524066722tell that to the troonix fanbois that consider their holy scripture consisting of copy pasted google fixes to be the pinnacle of personal computer operating systems
>>524051147Tbf you could just bypass the login screen on W2kStill GOAT OS
>>524066352>brings in jewish propaganda out of nowhereI get it, you praise jewsus, you slobber all over american dick, you think that blacks in poland are fine if they integrate fine... but I don't understand how you can call it a failed OS if it works for me? it's way too western of a thought for me to comprehend, actually
Fuck Winblows
>>524067163Systemd is written by trannies who say vulnerabilities are a feature. It was pushed by Redhat to take control of the open source community.
>>524052486For me it's gentoo
>>524067491>it works for me (tm)
>>524066417You got hummus on the right side of htop output
>>524067688That's why I use an alternative free of it, Artix Linux.
>>524051147the pre-jeet tech world was an amazing placethings workedwere simplefaster even
>>524063372>more strawmanspure retard
>>524068046I am spoonfeeding you why your OS sucks and you just call me retard. Linux fanboys, everyone. Some actual developers would thank me or even pay me for the feedback.
>>524051147Mossad has pictures of my dick. And I haven't left the house in more than a decade.
>>524054581So, in a nutshell, even windows developers do not use windows system calls and API to code windows features. Shows just how much jeeted Microsoft has become ever since jeet-in-chief took over from jew-in-chief
>>524052461You can always compile whatever version you want and stick it in /opt or something
>>524067921Based. I grudgingly use it but I do hate it. Just haven't had the energy to switch off stock debian. Each major version change there are more of its troon tentacles everywhere fuck Lennart
>>524051147>said windows xp was the last good os and we were heading for doom>nobody believed me>mfw i was right all along
>>524061631Isn't Mozilla run by troons and jews?
>>524068561yes
>>524068489XP was god tier, but its infantile UI designed to compete with macOS aqua was sign of things to come, making OSes normie friendly. Computers have steadily declined ever since. Computers should only be allowed to be used by hetero white men, you know, normal people.
>>524068288They officially abandoned native UI development in W8.
>>524068561The only tranny-free alternative is Brave, which somehow manages to be even more cancerous in terms of how it's run and how it justifies taking money from users. Notice that Brave became AI-based before the Mozilla foundation got a new CEO that said they were going AI-based too, and that Firefox will still have an AI opt-out, unlike Brave.
>>524068561Palemoon is run by a ruskie furry.
>>524068489it was faster than everything that came aftersad really
>>524068767GUI was what ultimately led to the popularization of PCs in the first place and to their adoption as business and personal productivity/porn-sharing tools.
>>524063372>>524068181But I did develop software last night
>>524069174To quote king Terry davis>computers were great then they made them for niggers
>>524054581Just in time for 4GB RAM computers again. You want more than 4GB? Better cough up $5000 for your Dell again.
>>524069066What's with software developments and being a fucking faggot? Is C++ syntax radioactive or what?
>>524069275TAD was so ahead of his time. Too smart of this world. RIP king.
>>524069459If you're smart enough to develop soctemware then you are spending the rest of your day jacking off to porn.Fat tech system administrator or tranny. Pick your path.
>>524069573*software
>>524051337Based. This is the best way to get help on Linux forums. Just shit on it and compare it to windows.
>>524051147Take 20 hours out of your gayming and learn how to use a Linux distro. It's not that hard should only need 98IQ.
The world went really gay when normies started calling programs "apps".
>>524069459Have you ever seen what happened to the syntax since C++11 over last decade? Too big cognitive effort, too much stress. People snap. At this point everything is better than working with this mess.
>>524063372Well, I study software engineering in college atm. And in one class, I shit you not, the mantra was "an idle cpu is a wasted cpu". Tells you everything you need to know about moderns oses, linux incldued, having a shit ton of useless procs running in the back ground. I still remember in Win95 where the task manager would be fucking empty if nothing ran beside your GUI.
>>524053169You're such a fucking moron, your talking points are 10 years out of date.
>>524051337Setup.exe literally does all that shit. Except you have now way of knowing exactly what libraries are being linked and how because it's a proprietary closed source installer. It's just a glorified installer script. And plenty of Linux software comes with automatic setup scripts, except they use the native open source shell script format so that you can see exactly what you're installing.
>>524069739I still code in C++98, and I manage my own pointers. Smart pointers are for jeets and troons, fuck'em
>>524059784A shitskin typed this
>>524069697There was a time when "application" meant a program with GUI.
>>524052044I had an early XP desktop that came with 128mb ram and it worked just fine. I don't think there's any record or proof that was even possible but it was.I think 4gb is enough for me nowadays on win7 but this computer has 16gb and it's more than I'd ever need.
>>524063745They changed from heavily optimized assembly/C to javascript/.NET and 10 frameworks on top of each other.
>>524051197I'm 'avin a giggle
>>524051147>early computing was better bro
>>524069697I fucking loathe that Apple faggot new speak. I still call them programs too.
>>524051197
>>524051411>i just wrotewhen I want to install something, I want to point and click pretty pictures, not author a fucking book
>>524070060>Apple faggot new speakWell summed up.
>>524070024I do miss it, you knowyeah it was sketchy and yeah there were a lot of popups, some even maliciousbut fucking hell the internet felt alive back then
>>524069965Much like how faggot games made in GameMaker like Undertale with subpar SNES graphics needs GBs of storage while a whole SNES game could fit inside a single floppy. When I first got introduced to computers in the 90s, a GB to me was so large I thought it could result in video games indistinguishable from reality, and a TB would be so ginormous that no one could possibly need that much on a PC, now that what's required to run a modern browsers with a few tab opened.
>>524067789what else do you want me to say, retard? it's a common saying because IT DOES work. just because you're a stupid retard that can't figure it out and neither can your hired niggers doesn't mean that it's bad, just means that you're the bad one
>>524069860Setup.exe for linux is impossible to do, because software deployment for native executables is broken. Those all appimages, flatpaks, etc are possible only because RAM and HDDs got big enough to allow for the most crude and non efficient workaround possible.Linux has no equivalent of self- contained software as it is was already done in windows since 95 and in mac OS.What does it mean:>See those .dll (.so) in the same directory as .exe? They will be used instead whatever is already present in the system.Dynamic linking is missing critical features for 3 decades, side by side assembly is not present. Linux runtime system is a fossil from 70s.Loontards are boasting about their skills but they run away from real problems for decades.
>>524070024Early computing would be from the days of Charles Babbage's analytical engine till roughly the days of the ENIAC. By the days of Windows XP, people had already developed a fuckton of research and theory-crafting on algorithms, formal languages, compilers, artificial intelligence, digital signal processing, programming paradigms, and even gotten industry giants to agree on standards for communications, programming languages, and safety and reliablility for stuff like embedded systems used in automotive and aerospace applications. Also, we had good rape-themed games in those days.
>>524070372>it's your fault it doesn't work (tm)
>>524070488yeah it is. a sec ago you were saying that setup.exe doesn't work on linux, I install games using the exe normally all the time. you're just a retard, admit it
>>524070277Then vs Now is really just trannygramming autists vs normalfag phone-scrolling Chads and Stacies.Chad the business manager and Stacy the marketing head never had to know about the shell, scripts, compilers, or daemons, and just knew that there was some IT guy who was a bit weird and still unmarried at the age of 45 that had to type stuff into a blue screen whenever the website went down or something.
>>524070412I'm a retard and proud of itthe reason no Linux distro will ever replace the pc/mac mainstream market is because its users are all midwits who think they're 9000 iq because they do everything inside of a terminal
>>524070872>daemonsCome on, you saw that if you double clicked on Doom.exe.
>>524054581>cross-plattform component>only ever needs to run on Windows 11
I remember pirating a beta version Windows XP (Windows Whistler - built on top of Windows 2000) back in the day, and it phoned home even though I was completely disconnected from the internet when installing it. They literally called my home. Privacy has not existed since commercial internet has been a thing.
>>524070969Well, do you think Chad the business manager who's part of his neighborhood church's charity group and plays baseball on Saturdays ever opened Doom.exe?
>>524062716I do art/music stuff a lot and really prefer Photoshop and FL Studio over any alternative that runs natively on Linux.But there's no way I'm running Windows cancer as my daily driver operating system, so I came up with a workaround:>Small secondary GPU>Cintiq pen tablet display>Windows 10 VM with GPU passthrough displayed to the tablet>Windows 10 VM internet access disabled from the host (so no phoning home by microsoft or my pirated copy of sony vegas)Something just REFUSES to run on Linux? K fine I'll just boot up my Win10 GPU passthrough VM and do it on my tablet.
>>524051147baka. I'm always surprised no one mentions Windows93 as an option.https://www.windows93.net/
>>524070326This was 2 floppies - Future Crew - Second Reality (1993)https://files.catbox.moe/qkuq4x.webm
>>524071351if that could keep up with modern apps it would be quite viable and asthetic
>>524071630The start button is faster than in Win11
>>524069792What happened in 2015?
i have a laptop that is a gutted version of XP, a touchscreen netbook that is a gutted 7, and my PC has dual boot gutted 10 and Arch. i don't give a fuck about the feds looking at my dick pics or games, but shit i do care about i use on my older hardware.
>>524073796jeetpocalypse
>>524053169>all these basic 4chan bitches dogpiling the namefagJej, hue even.
>>524074289Not really
>>524074334No one is "dogpiling" anyone.
>>524059856That implies there's an advantage to Windows, what is that advantage?
>>524074448Don't you me nigger.
>>524051411you're so clueless
>>524074345It was in the making for quite some time. The geeks were just too dumb to notice while convinced of their own intellectual superiority.A typical confidence con.
>>524075148I'll keep doing it. Any more complaints out of your nigger mouth and I'm sending you to treasonville.
>>524052486works ok on my 20 yo braptop
>>524070946>I'm a retard and proud of itThat's the real reason the PC world is going to shit it takes like 2 hours of watching a YouTube video to learn how to install and get Linux running for normie applications but your brain rot nigger brain can't handle focusing on something longer then 30 seconds. Microsoft is gonna literally make Windows 12 a 100% completely AI cloud based OS thanks to you lazy faggots.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/1623https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/737/textSeveral states have already fallen, how do I ensure this doesn't happen in my state?
>>524059784Works on my machine.
>>524060355Stopped using it after the bootloader corrupted. Microsoft does NOT like sharing harddrive space with any Linux filesystem.
>>524057502retard, buy a fucking ps3 people are fucked off with 70 quids for a fucking game and pay as you play bullshit,some ps3's are in the 600 quid region because everyone's bailing on this scam and want what isn't broken,there's now sites going up because these pricks force close servers to make you buy new ones,people are fucking done with being jewed
>>524062433delighting in it is unhealthy. certain things need to be done, but enjoying them is creepy.
>>524076979So gay. You can get XP and 7 dual booting for muh gaymes, but what's the point when you can just run your old games in loonix just fine.
>>524061137>STOP NOT LIKING WHAT I LIKE
