Atheists unironically think this happens for no reason whatsoever and there is no causality behind it.
>>524061331>Atheists unironically thinkNo they don't. A Jew tells them to believe nothing and give up his culture, and the Atheist does it, never thinking to ask why the jew doesn't give up satan or his culture, or believes the jew's lies that he's is an atheists.
https://files.catbox.moe/v2yqq6.pdf
>>524061331You think the Jewish war god is behind it so I don't think you have any room to talk.
>>524061582>jew counting
>>524061604When did I say that
Reminder the upper echelons of the NSDAP were overwhelmingly atheist.
>>524061331>>524061472Don't pretend like mainstream religious people are any better than atheists.>ackshully my hebrew deity made man 6,000 years ago XD XD XD and there were like global floods and sheeit and there are evil spirits XD XD XDYou're not spared the label of subhuman.
>>524061686So you don't deny it. You only deny saying it.
>>524061331This is going to blow your fucking mindhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soap
>>524061785Thinking in the binary "you are either an atheist or worship the sandnigger god" is a boomer tier understanding of reality.
>>524061900No one said that. You clearly fail at reading. The implication is that the masses of religious tards are just as delusional and culturally mindfucked as the fedora tippers.
>>524061895That's also a phospholipid structure. But yeah, pretty cool.
>>524061331The fact that we're made out of hyper complex bio machines that require extremely specific environmental variables to function BTFOs creationism. You can literally see the declension from simpler forms in the structure thus validating evolution. A being made by a god would simply be made of magical fluff that Just Works™℠®©
>>524061331no no you don't get ityou arent smart enoughthere was a big booomand then it all just happenedand somehow it's a reason why faggots should be allowed to fuck kids
>>524061472>A Jew tells them to believe nothing and give up his culture
>>524061331>I'm too dumb to understand so therefore it must be magic
>>524061331Kek. Most anons don't into emergent properties. You should have added alpha helixes and beta folds/sheets.
>>524062043>there was a big booomthe big bang theory was formulated by a christian
>>524062028Evolution is both real and proves the existence of a higher power, not the opposite. Not sure why both creationists and scientists don't understand this.
>>524061331>I don't want to look for complicated answers, wizard did it is sufficient explanation for me
>>524062182>proves the existence of a higher powershow your evidence
>>524061331Kek better than looking at everything and saying my guy did that!
>>524062182The most mainstream religions say direct creation of man in a specific timeframe. This is what the majority of religious people believe in. Stop pretending your niche personal take is mainstream. I even agree with you, but creationism IS religion. We are just niche small thinkers.
>>524061472>You don't believe in the magic jew who was born of a virgin and resurrected after death because a jew told you to!>No it's not because those things are all preposterous and that jivin jesus still hasn't come back after 2000 years...
>>524061895Molecular machines (those things that walk) blow my mind
>>524062182Na, were making enormous headway in abiogenesis all the time. The "gap" of "god" is moving daily. Watch some professor Dave videos.
> Shakes up a bottle of oil, salt and water> bilipid layer spontaneously formsIt's a miracle from god!
>>524062248The entire premise of evolution is based on life improving itself and adapting for survival. But scientists realized that the very existence of the theory of evolution itself is teleological, meaning that if life has a forward trajectory, then it must have an end goal. And having an end goal implies purpose. And purpose leads to very uncomfortable questions of a purpose being designed or causally set in motion, so they explain this problem by saying "natural selection" and creatures are just adapting to their environments.This falls apart because brains have evolved in two completely unrelated lineages, which hints strongly at the fact that life as a whole is striving for higher consciousness and that there is an objective direction to where life is going. You can even look at the tree of life yourself and go down the layers and see how each successive layer is not merely just an accident or environmental adaption, but an actual IMPROVEMENT on the previous layer.
>>524062540>scientists realized that the very existence of the theory of evolution itself is teleological, meaning that if life has a forward trajectory, then it must have an end goal. And having an end goal implies purpose.This is you projecting your own worldview onto things
>>524061472If they're Christians, a Jew tells them to believe "In the beginning God created ...", not that it all appears randomly from primordial soup.
What was the motive
>>524062540That's the bodies. Now talk about souls.
>>524061331Wow it is like evolution occured or something.
>>524061331Lol
>>524062540>The entire premise of evolution is based on life improving itself and adapting for survival.It literally isn't. And sicne you are too stupid to understand it there is no point in further discussion with retard like you about evolution.
>>524061331These are inventions of the wicked demiurge to imprison our souls
>>524061965>muh enlightened centristRetard take. You either focus on physical reality or you don't. If you think astrology, auras, crystals, ghosts, or gods are at all relevant to anything you're completely useless.
>>524062735Why don't most people kill themselves, not a suggestion, just a question! Why, because you want to survive. Why do you do what it takes to have food and shelter even if you're a NEET?We know some answers to these questions because they are personal to us.
>>524062540Adding some unexplainable unknowable element isn't an answer to anything, stupid man worshiping homo.
>>524063028What becomes of our souls without them? Does this demiurge, if there is one, operate with permission of higher authority?
>>524063115Thinking that the height of reality is arguing about trannies and dindus is way more retarded. Imagine unironically caring about politics in the current year. Shit is over bro. Stop caring. Everyone that is smart knows this. If you haven't pivoted to reading science and philosophy by now and threw your copies of Leviathan and The Prince in the trash you unironically aren't gonna make it.
>>524062394
>>524063028Souls are a tranny concept to justify "you" existing outside of your physical self. Religiotards allow for trannies by providing the normalizing of "you" being in some magical spirit realm while your body is six feet under.
>>524062394>>524063378
>>524061331>no reason whatsoever and there is no causality behind it.Nobody has ever said that theres plenty of reasons it happens
>>524061331>I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THEREFORE GOD!
>>524061331>christians and muslims look at this, and think a jew created this >then they go and destroy the White race while protecting kikes
>>524061331Im to the point of I don't care if people want to toss themselves into hell. Free will and all. Those that are drawn will be and the rest are literally not my problem.It becomes my problem when Satanists and gaythiests try to rape my kids and destroy the quality of life but their quality of life will be destroyed forever so I guess it evens out.
>>524063277>muh ascetic enlightenmentThanks Siddhartha. Real useful philosophy you got there.
>>524063115>muh enlightened centristActually, that is exactly the case. Religious dogmatists and magical voodoo believers are silly, as are people that cannot see patterns or structure of physical reality. Imagine being a proponent of materialism while you fail to spot the actual structural patterned detail and implication. MIDWIT ALERT, MIDWIT ALERT.
>>524061331Of course, Jewish fairytales about a prehistoric comic book hero are the best explanation.
>>524063621>posts male nudes art>calls atheists gayEver notice how atheists manage to make it through the day without thinking about a Mediterranean fantasy man book character or sticking their ass in the air five times a day?
>>524063404Damn that's actually really fucking accurate and explains a lot of abrahamic fart huffing
>>524061331I can you haven't the slightest idea what science is.
Deep down most of atheists believe in God but they want to be edgy.
>>524063770>centrism good>midwit badNo one has ever experienced any aberration of presently known physics. There is no point is pretending there's something relevant about what isn't real, else it would be called reality.
>>524063995Whats the proof
>>524063978Please educate me.
>>524063995The belief in god in based on fear.
>>524063995Go spread your ass cheeks for today's prayer number #4 bitch.
>>524061331>Christniggers>LET ME TELL U HOW U THINKkek
>>524064013he's right, you are a midwit
>>524064046>The belief in god in based on fear.It can be based on love if you have some spiritual understanding and introspection. God is not an old white man with beard on the clouds.It's you, me, literally every living being but you're not ready for that discussion.
>>524064013Centrism is a stupid concept. There is no center because there is no scale to be in the center of. There are varied beliefs and positions, not your primitive baby-dick-bitch left-right Amerishart-in-mart political scale.You're clearly too primitive to spot regularities and important patterns in reality and physics, so you can't ever even begin to discuss the implications. Peak midwit. The reddit plebian of our times.
>>524064035Science is a method of explaining natural phenomenon using repeatable methods that yield predictive results.
>>524064234He's not talking about God, he's implying religion, organized religion, is built upon the predation of man's inherent fear of death and the unknown. This of course makes it not credible, even wrong.
>>524062028>A being made by a god would simply be made of magical fluff that Just Works™℠®©According to who? If a God made the laws of the universe then his creations would naturally follow those laws as well.
>>524063995This contradicts the religiontard narrative about atheists being nihilistic and depressed. Also it's just plain illogical. Why would anyone genuinely belive in god and then purposely anger him?? You're a fucking retard m8.
>>524064167>>524064237Midwit means midway between a useless torah card gypsy and someone actually useful. Religious idiots using the term midwit are debasing themselves. What do you think your metaphysical bullshit contributes to anything?
>>524064234You are not God, you are a creation, God is the creator and he will send you to hell because you are not a christian
>>524063378>>524063425There’s no fucking way these things “evolved”.
>>524063539You are made in the image of God, but if you haven't come fully into your potential, what do you call the part you don't understand?
>>524061331>these man made models prove Atheists incorrect.
>>524064376>making up more bullshit to explain horseshitListen monkey, a placeholder is not an answer. Saying some unexplainable unknowable force did some thing in some unseen way does nothing but provide your chimp brain with an alpha figure for your mental hierarchy.
>>524063562Oddly, Jews would not say a Jew created it. The Jew worshipped by Christians didn't say a Jew created it.
>>524064645>sayNo one said anything. It's fucking text. Do you believe the NYTimes too Chaim? Fucking idiot.
>>524061331Can't have evolution without a big bang.
>>524061582>If I arbitrarily assign numeric values to letters and then arrange them and add them and throw in some symbols to make words shorter...>Then it adds up to le magic scary devil number (which we also made up) I'm 14 and this is deep
>>524061331>Christians literally think God exists (somehow) and created everything from nothingk lol
>>524064013Maybe not, or if they did they probably didn't notice it. But what if there is reality beyond what we call physics? Physics is equations describing the interactions of things we have equipment to measure. But what about things we can't measure?
>>524064376>If a God made the laws of the universe then his creations would naturally follow those laws as well.No, that's not how God created us. He created us in such a way that we would always eventually fail. We were specifically made so that we don't make the right choice every time, so that then God has a reason to punish us. We were made worse than we could have been so that God can then make us suffer.
>>524064491If God can make anything out of anything, why the fuck would he make us out of hyper complex and fragile bio machines that need incredibly specific environmental variables in place to work? Why not just make us out of homogenous magic fluff that Just Works™℠®©?>durrrrrr mysterious ways n sheeeeeetYou're a nigger
>>524062151Baby shit
>>524064753Would you believe the NY Times because someone read it to you rather than reading it yourself?
>>524064376He can do anything, remember? The magic fluff could work if God decides it can work.
>>524062490Fucking racist ass lipids...
>>524061472Christians have been successfully brainwashed by Jews into believing this.
>>524063995Then by definition, they aren’t atheists.
>>524065052He can't even make a universe where noone would be suffering. You're asking too much.
Why do so many boomers on this board think that if you aren't an atheist you must believe in the sandnigger jew god? What causes this brainrot?
>>524064903In what context would something immeasurable and unknowable ever be relevant to anything? The entire goal of seeking explanations of natural phenomenon is to learn about what we know exists. A placeholder creator is inventing a new aspect of reality that isn't apparent.
>>524063539This is no different than humans playing music to plants to see how it affects them, we try what might work. So did God after realizing that we would all just die in fire and brimstone otherwise. Infallible? Not to himself perhaps, but to us, yes because we know not why he does everything that he does. Everyone assumes God can't get depressed but maybe that why we ain't seen him in person for 2000 years.
>>524061331No, they think it happens because nature has inherent rules - some of which are understood and some of which are yet to be discovered - instead of thinking it happened because the winner of an ancient semitic pantheon willed it to be so.
>>524065131OK fine then what is your explanation, the Norse gods? Or what? Or do you think everything is statistically randomly emergent from primordial soup?>t. statistically trained, have taught stats in college, don't think that would happen once in a million universes. But you could always say we are the million-and-first, some smart people think that way.
>>524065210I mean, I'm generous enough to play along with the "we need to suffer because reasons" bullshit. That's not a problem for my argument. God could still make the magical fluff people suffer
>>524064472Religion itself began as largely codified pattern recognition mixed with common cultural mythical tales, social law, and civilization-propaganda. Much like early philosophers in Greece, in the ancient times the priests were effectively the men that attempted to read reality to the best of their ability and derive culture/understanding from that. A lot of it was invalidated, rightfully, by later works - but the point is men have always tried to get a more accurate read on our world. From early days of astronomy and understanding how to track celestial bodies, to modern day complex physics. And yes, there are absolutely patterns within our universe and world - it's not my fault you cannot grasp ideas beyond your surface level introductory physics textbook from highschool.You're not a scientist, nor are you a materialist. You are a nu-reddit basedboy. Stop larping on 4chan, it's sad.
>>524061661arithmomaniaa characteristic of vampires in lore.
>>524065319And who created those rules? Who wrote down our Lagrangian? Perhaps there was some guide, some teaching that predated the universe.
>>524061331This is literally just what happens when oil touches water
>>524063995I agree. I've learned this about them. I believe in God but I'm not religious and never bring God up in my social life
>>524064491K
>>524063028I think this planet is an oasis in the cosmic desert, a kind of pit stop for many space civilizations that needed to refuel or resupply. Evidence for this might be the vast diversity of life on the planet, much of which seems incompatible with one another.One possible scenario is this: the first visitors created grass and plants to suit their own needs. Later, another group of voyagers arrived, saw the existing plant life, and figured out how to use it. They created herbivores to consume the plants and then harvested resources from those animals. After that, yet another group created carnivores to prey on the herbivores and harvested something from them in turn.A completely different scenario is also possible. Civilization A created the plants and grass for its own purposes and then left. Later, civilization B arrived, saw what civilization A had made, and chose to destroy it. They created herbivores to consume the plant life, ensuring that civilization A would never stop here again.
>>524065289Because some do observe things. Notice some small miracles, some things that are too unusual to be coincidences. Some people report near-death experiences that have too much similarity to be random or herd effect. I think there is more beyond and within, and I think you will find that too if you don't assume there isn't.
>>524064950>godWhy only one god? What do you mean by god? White people were gods to Aztecs and Mayans.
>>524065413>doesnt even know about the decade old word filters>claims to be an oldfagWhatever dumbass. You aren't some deep thinker because you spout woman tier spirit crap. Obviously patterns exist, like the pattern of stupid apes creating super mega alpha monkey sky doms.
>>524061331>Atheists unironically think this happens for no reason whatsoever and there is no causality behind it.As opposed to what? Its reasoning cause "happened for no reason whatsoever and there is no causality behind Him"?
>>524065642Hat tip. Interesting.
>>524061331learn what the fuck unironic means you mouth breathing brain dead piece of fucking shit
>>524065722Add an "s" then if you please, my argument still stands
>>524061331Survivorship bias. If it didn't occur naturally we wouldn't be able to exist. Look at how devoid of life space is
>>524062182>proves the existence>scientists don't understandBecause a "proof" is an argument that doesn't work in the scientific method. You can only refute models or theories, but you can never proof anything in science. objective data can show, that models or theories are correct to some degree, so that they are usable for their applied fields, but they can never prove anything.It is the reason why mathematics, that deals with proofs, used to be philosophical studies or why everything that involves human individuals (like parts of medicine or social studies) is not real science, but called soft science, because you can never adhere to the scientific method.Religious belief and science are completely different fields, because they have very different foundations. It is also the reason, why all good scientists are either religious themselves or agnostics
>>524065945And then 3i/Atlas floats by acting strangely.
>>524065838I've been here for way over a decade and I will use whatever words I want without having to adjust them like (>you). And no, you clearly don't get it. It's not about "patterns exist", but "important patterns and their implication". You don't understand, because you're a surface level peak midwit larper. Don't think you fool anyone lol.
God is real
>>524065714Oh my, the near death trope again.>hey i saw some weird shit as my brain malfunctionedAgain, it's not explainable. It's not part of of what is real. There's been plenty of time for that to play out into a predictable theory if it were. It's not like there's been a lack of trying. 300 years ago Newton wasted half his life trying to prove bible nonsense. Note that he didn't succeed.
>>524065463Why does there have to be a guide? Why does someone have to have made the rules? Why can 1+1=2 or equal and opposing actions and reactions not simply be inherent facts of reality because existence as we know it could not function any other way than how it does?
>>524061331
>>524064237I'm dying to know what patterns and regularities are you spotting.
>>524061331>Atheists unironically think this happens for no reason whatsoever and there is no causality behind it.That's what Christfags believe. Atheists believe there's a scientific reason behind all this, we just haven't discovered it yet. Maybe because we spent thousands of years believing in a space daddy that gives children cancer because he loves them.
>>524061331>god of the gaps fallacywill christniggers ever try something new?
>>524065904>If Gods can make anything out of anythingThey can’t, they’re not omnipotent. They can do a lot, way more than we can but they still have limits. The idea of a one single omnipotent god is somewhat ridiculous, it’s more likely that there are many gods, if we accept the notion that a god is something way more advanced than us, just like subhumans viewed white people as gods.
>>524063863Funny how you think souls tortured would have clothes.
>>524066014Correct in my view. The most that's available from statistics is "statistical proof".But the amazingly high probability under reasonable assumptions, shown by our current physics, is at least extremely suggestive. To understand what we don't observe (or can only partially observe, which is everything) we must extrapolate. Any good physicist believes that our physical theories aren't just bullshit. The evidence is as convincing as anything one experiences in this world. He's at least somewhat prepared to be overruled by new evidence.The reason to believe in God is not that our theories are just theories. It's the nature of the theories themselves. https://www.reddit.com/r/QuotesPorn/comments/2c9so5/the_first_gulp_from_the_glass_of_natural_sciences/
>>524062490Indeedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBz_8grL7Vo
>>524066104Gods are real.
>>524062164Did anyone hear it?
>>524061331> dude I don’t understand something therefore an invisible wizard in the sky must be behind itWhy are christcucks like this?
>>524066561Atheist are more retarded than deists.
>>524061331The oil droplets on top of water always forms into circles because there's is a guy in the sky that constantly direct each molecule to make a circle
>>524066561>cant measure something directly >let's call it dark energy and black matter
>>524061331Christians unironically believe that because we can't explain everything, that means that the universe was created by the earthy incarnation of a tribal Canaanite war god.
>>524066826Not the reason for the names dark matter and dark energy. The truth is worse.These are failures in our theories, where the universe behaves as if there's mass and energy that should not exist according to other predictions of the theory.
>>524064950>Why not just make us out of homogenous magic fluff that Just Works™℠®©?He did, it's called energy. All these natural rules are a product of the nature of energy.
>>524066282>Atheists believe there's a scientific reason behind all this, we just haven't discovered it yet. How is this not naturalism of the gaps?
>>524065373>if it’s not my Jewish fairy tale, it’s randomnessOk rabbi
>>524066826>can’t measure something directly, but it’s existence would be consistent with observations and would answer a lot of other questions>give it a placeholder name until you discover whether or not it exists or what it is
>>524061331there's teleology in biology but it's just a complex systems thing, which is it's own whole field of science. read a book niggers
>>524061331IT HAPPENS RANDOMLY ONCE YOU DIE YOU WILL FORGET EVERYTHING!
>>524066995Feel free to provide a better fairy tale, and show how it differs from mine.
>>524066962Please then describe the nature of energy or give a reference. Is it what we call "physics"?
>>524067053And where do those systems come from?
>>524066962Na, this is cope. Your fake jewish god can, allegedly, do ANYTHING. No reason whatsoever for us to be made out of hyper complex bio machines that totally break down outside a hyper rare set of environmental variables. No reason whatsoever not to just make us out of homogeneous magic fluff that is structureless at the microscopic scale. You're "god of the gasps"ing hard af rn
>>524066104The God of Israel is not real
>>524066387How in the fuck do you idiots type such idiocy.>hurr i dont nowe so must da godYou can not know without inventing more that you don't know. Most high IQ people are atheists anyway. Who gets the title of scientist is vague.
>>524067073Maybe your soul remembers everything. That is the common view of many near death experience reports.
>>524061582MATH CAME FROM ISLAM THE MUSLIMS JEWS DIDN’T INVENT MATH AND HELL THE JEWS ARE VERY BAD AT MATH THEY ARE ONLY GOOD AT SIMPLE MATH BUT ONCE YOU REACH ALGEBRA - AL A MUSLIM THING THE JEWS ARE FUCKED.SEE CHRISTIANS CAN ATLEAST SAY THEY HAVE CALCULUS - C - A CHRISTIAN THING. ALSO SEE CHEMISTRY - CHRISTIAN.WHILE ALCHEMY - AL - MUSLIM JEWS ONLY HAVE BIOLOGY - B - TIED TO JEWS. SO KIKES ARE AT THE BOTTOM.THE MUSLIMS HAVE THEIR HOLY LAND CALLED SAUDI ARABIA!THE CHRISTIANS HAVE THEIR HOLY LAND CALLED AMERICA!THE KIKES ARE TOO STUPID AND THEY ARE FIGHTING OVER A SMALL PIECE OF LAND WITH THE WEAKEST MUSLIMS. LET THAT BE KNOWN. KIKES ARE AT THE BOTTOM EVERYONE ELSE HAS A BIG COUNTRY KIKES ARE FIGHTING OVER A SMALL PIECE OF LAND AND THEY ARE LOSING...
>>524067270Gaps*
>>524061331Atheism is just judaism but with more arrogance.
>>524067349SO ARE YOU STUPID THEN? WHY CAN’T YOU REMEMBER? SEE IF THIS IS TRUE THEN THAT MEANS YOU ARE EITHER A RETARD OR SOULLESS? CHOSE ONLY ONE!
>>524067317>"Most high IQ people are atheists anyway.">thinks religion is the same as belief in a higher power
>>524065241Because like 60% of humans on this planet are Abrahamists, you have to be able to defeat the Jew god to provide an alternative.
>>524061895this gives me the ick
>>524061582You can literally say anything and have it equal 666 in gematria depending on you word it
>>524061331You know you're looking at man-made models and not pictures, right?
>>524067486>MATH CAME FROM ISLAMWhat math came from Islam, was stolen from the Hindus (al gebr) in Islamic libraries, at least they kept some of what they destroyed. Today's inbreds would probably not do as well if they were to win again.
>>524067552No, americuck, you have free speech and freedom of religion. Please provide your alternative now, we'll see if it's any good.
>>524061331yeah, strange. how can you love Math and not believe in God?! why would universe need to create any of that shit without higher inteligence. why would universe needs "life". I would understand if "life" was everywhere but since it's so rare then what's the point. Athiest believe in Bing Bang without realizing that's God and they just call it another name
>>524061331Sacred geometry. The unfolding and cascading fractal order is baked into reality. It's a divine order permeating everything and from this order emerges life and beauty. God is not micro-managing us he's just creating the server for us to play in.
>>524067493>higher powerNotice how it's always "higher" in rank for the monkey brain placeholder. All impulse to create unanswerable questions is useless. The goal is to know unknowns, not answer unknowns with the unknowable.
>>524061331They look like tiny people building space forts haha
>>524067885>The goal is to know unknowns, not answer unknowns with the unknowableLike pretending there's no divinity at all?
>>524067761God isn't an answer. How could you possibly think inventing some new character that is indescribable is an answer to anything? Oh right, your homo beaner brain needs a fantasy alpha dom.
>>524067885I'll admit that as a kid, I liked blank sheets of paper. Writing on them destroyed some of their potential.But if someone can ask you a question you can't answer, will you resent them for it or say it's not a good question because you can't answer it?
>>524067743Plato's description of the Monad with elements of gnostic cosmology deconstruct Yahweh thoroughly.
>>524067996>divinityDescribe it. Oh you cant? It's unknowable? That's called useless crap.
>>524068053that's the problem with retards like you that lack critical thinking. You can't understand all encompassing and instead cling to idea of bearded man in the sky with Jesus by his side. since you're posting under jeet flag, denounce anus licking Vishna and butt fucked Krishna
>>524068053Call it something else then. We should not pretend to know more than we do about God. One of the "10 Commandments" is not to make a graven image to pretend that represents God.
>>524068069Asking a question that isn't answerable isn't a real question.>why do you let jinn affect your vibrations???
>>524068145>it's unknowable If it's unknowable you can't deny it either, dumbass. Science comes from natural philosophy. Without the quest to understand you wouldn't even have a computer or pretty much anything else. Magnets are divine so your entire argument just went up in smoke. As usual.
>>524068093OK so it's an analysis of the nature of God, or as you call it, a deconstruction. Does it contradict anything?
>>524068189At least jesus and other characters are attempts to explain that placeholder "higher" than what you can answer. Not even coming up with anything, just asserting there's some mysterious thing that you can't explain is extremely lazy.
>>524068240>Asking a question that isn't answerable isn't a real question.Feel free to live a small comfortable life. But how do you know it isn't answerable, or that partial answers won't be useful?I majored in engineering in college. At the end of every course I had more questions than I started with. The more I knew the more I didn't know, but most people would say engineering training is a useful thing.
>>524061331The atheist's brethen, monotheists, believe a nameless, rootless, faceless jewish egregore created it and that you owe eternal interest for it.
>>524063378It looks like an anus, can i fuck it?
>>524068254>magnets are divineFalse.>the quest to understandUnderstand NATURAL PHENOMENON. You even called it "natural philosophy." The goal is to explain what we observe in reality, not invent things outside of nature for no apparent utility other than placating your pathetic baboon brain need for an alpha.
>>524063115Nevermind mind millenia of peaceful heno-and pantheism culminating in the foundations of the world, which are being systematically corruptes, retconned and destroyed by abrahamism and its many offshoots.
>>524068434You had questions about observable reality. No one answered those questions with unobservable unexplainable characters.
>>524066206That's antisemitic.
>>524068632>magnets aren't divine Yeah they are. Magnetic fields hold no physical form. It's essentially a phantom force. And that phantom force powers the world so you're using magic right now. lol >The goal is to explain what we observe in realityThe divine IS reality, imbecile. Quantum mechanics goes beyond all comprehension and is a very real science. Your world view of Newtonian physics has long been outdated. Magic is just what you don't understand but it's still part of reality, moron.
>>524068356huh, retard? Jesus is you, idiot, Jesus was always you. your soul is the Christ on the Cross (your brain). the writing was pretty clear about Kingdom of Heaven is within. It's moronic to think Jesus as real person existed that performed miracles when it's obvious text is speaking about our inner selves (water into wine - water into blood), (multiplying bread - cell divisions) (walking on water - thoughts). idiots like you is why term NPC exists
>>524068904>Quantum mechanics goes beyond all comprehension>and is a very real scienceSo we can comprehend it? You're making a lot of contradictions anon...
>>524064855Anon, while gematria is retarded, the modern linguistics upon which LLM are built is in fact just more sophisticated isopsephy. That said: gematria is a poor copy of isopsephy, like any else that's co-opted and branded by merchants.
>>524061895Whats mind blowing about this?
>>524069071>you're making contradictions No I'm not. We merely discovered that all our notions of consistency go out the window past the atomic level. I'm arguing that the divine is therefore real since quantum mechanics proves our rigid laws of physics don't actually apply when you zoom in. The implications are immense.
>>524068766Except for physics (why does something bend under pressure, there's a number that describes that), chemistry (why chemical reactions? Molecules, atoms and electronegativity), economics (why do people do what they do? Their internal preferences) and probably other fields as well.
>>524062394Now this shit is crazy cool
>>524068632Americans are always making completely incoherent arguments. Why are they like this? Do all the smart americans avoid this website?
>>524061867Kill yourself you poisonous little cretin
>>524068257Yes, a ton of the shit Saul/Paul taught directly contradicts Jesus's teachings. I recommend reading the Gospel of Thomas, a collection of the actual words of Jesus. Remember that his enemies were the rabbis. Somehow, the people who today call themselves Christians believe that Jesus came to provide a perfect set of laws for everyone to follow. He did nothing of the sort. Rather, he upended and destroyed the law.Imagine if I told you that you had broken Chinese law and would be taken to a prison in China, but a wise Chinese prophet forgave you, and now you are indebted to the Chinese. You would find that ridiculous. Why? Because you are not expected to be bound by Chinese law, as you are not a Chinese person.Yet I get people coming to me calling themselves followers of Christ telling me that I must follow their Jewish laws from the great Jewish lawmaker, Jesus, who forgave me for breaking the old jewish law and imposed a new rule. He wasn't a fucking legalist. He didn't live a life that abided perfectly by the rules of his time. That is in fact the point. Rules can be rewritten. A just god doesn't want you to follow all of his rules like a boring automaton. He wants you to prove that his rules have exceptions. It entertains him. God wants you to do what makes him laugh. The being that calls itself the god of the material world and says it will punish you eternally for disobedience here on earth is an evil being unworthy of worship. Love is the law, and the true God is a being of infinite compassion.
>>524061472>A Jew tells them to believe nothing and give up his cultureWho? Jesus?
>>524069596Both love and evil exist and are therefore aspects of the divine. You have almost everything but you stop short at low brow faux-good-person hippie garbage. The divine rewards that which exists - that which expresses will, conscious or not.
>>524069310That doesn't prove there's a divine, it just shows there's more to physics than what our understanding of what it was has become more refined. Once upon a time neurology was confined to psychology and basic brain anatomy, before that it was philosophy and brain structure, now all that is basically out the window because we understand the brain, how it functions down to the smallest details and we can image it with all sorts of special instruments. Physics is no different, it has the same path from philosophy, to basic shapes and movements and reactions, to understanding the math behind it, and now it's being refined even more. It just means we humans, can now measure it, put labels to it, etc.
>>524068556>The atheist's brethen, monotheistsThe atheists brethren are polytheists, who likewise reduce God to an impersonal process or force. That's why atheists have no problem referring to "The Universe" in personal terms and other hippie bullshit.
>>524061331Christcucks think a Jealous Jewish Invisible Man who cursed the world cuz a bitch ate an apple and cares if you jerk off and sacrificed himself to himself did it
>>524069310QM is quite a rigid system though. According to the laws of QM, one could run the universe backward determistically all the way to its beginning.QM is not about randomness, quite the opposite.
>>524067349If the soul remembered everything then i wouldn't be here.
>>524061331Atheists are just wrong about everything. Stay mad, faggots.
I think you would have to be dumb not to accept that some kind of god-like entity probably had a hand in creating all this. All human religion is man-made cope though. I think christianity is the most solidly founded of our religions, but it also doesn't stand up to scrutiny and is riddled with inconsistencies. It starts to crumble when you put it before the hardest questions like for instance: What happens to the "invincibly ignorant" during judgement? Babies/children that died before they could comprehend, the mentally disabled, and normal people that had no fair chance at ever accepting christ like people born in north korea for instance?How do you draw the line at which someone is not "culpable" for not accepting christ? Does not being morally culpable mean they are saved?This is just one of the major problems I've found with it. There's also the whole problem of there not being a single non-biblical reference or documentation of jesus' miracles. Literal magic was happening in front of people and it was only "documented" years later in the bible and no other sources. How convenient.
>>524061331>This wasn't created my nothing >So it was created by MY FABLE>boom, I win!
>>524069596According to the Gospels, Jesus said he came to fulfill not to upend the law, and he did so in many ways also reported in the Gospels. Oral law as well as written.I don't know what Saul/Paul said, it seems largely incoherent.I don't think this comparison relates to the Platonic writings though. Can you show me how it does?
>>524070018Why not? Maybe you chose to come here, maybe you were sent back to fix something.
>>524070102>It starts to crumble when you put it before the hardest questions like [things I refuse to understand because of emotional objections]Read the Church Fathers and stop being a faggot.
>>524069889The word divine is defined as ''godlike'' which quantum mechanics supports. Not only does it prove we're being observed by something but it also proves that what we think has rigid structure actually doesn't. It's fluid and malleable. It's why consciousness could never be measured or fully grasped like magnetic fields because it is intangible. But just because it's intangible doesn't mean it isn't there. The spirit (or ghosts) have been seen all throughout history. It's not something people just came up with on the spot. In fact, none of the original polytheistic indo-european religions were mere stories created for convenience. They are retellings of their ancestors. And though they may be somewhat distorted, they are still based on real events. A god is simply a progenitor in the eyes of our ancestors. These progenitors could have been people confined to different physical laws.
>>524061331The reason is increased energy efficiency
>>524067648IT WAS THE OTHER WAY AROUND AND WE KNOW THIS BECAUSE DUBAI AND SAUDI ARABIA ARE DOING WELL AND INDIA DANCES IN COW POOP!I KNOW MATH DID NOT COME FROM HINDUS OR INDIANS AND YOU KNOW THAT TOO!BUT REPEAT NONSENSE YOUR MASTER TOLD YOU! THINK ABOUT IT LOOK AT THE COUNTRIES YOUR EYES ARE THE ONLY THINGS THAT CAN SHOW YOU THE TRUTH AND THEY NEVER LIE! INDIA IS A FAKE THEY LIE AND LOOK AT TECH LOOK AT HOW THAT INDIAN CEO AT MICROSOFT IS DESTROYING THAT BEAUTIFUL COMPANY BECAUSE OF LYING INDIANS WHO HAVE MADE NOTHING THEIR GODS CAME FROM SOMEONE ELSE THEY STOLE EVERYTHING. BUT BELIEVE LIARS I DON’T CARE BUT THIS WILL SHOW UP AGAIN AND AGAIN AND YOU WILL NOT BELIEVE ME UNTIL YOU DIE FROM IT!
>>524061331On an unrelated note I saw the OP pic and thought those things were balls of rope. I have recently been trying to get into tying knots and I am terrible at it. This made me remember the fact that I am such a retard that it took me until I was in 6th grade to actually tie my shoe properly for the first time.
>>524070011>QM is quite rigid It's not. People don't wanna delve too deep into it because they fear what they might find. People naturally fear the unnkown. Only weirdos like myself relish exploring the void. >QM is not about randomness, quite the opposite.That's what we used to think. But the more we discover the less rigid it becomes. And in a way that's a good thing.
>>524070243Again, QM is rigid not fluid. The unitary transformation does not allow for random input. And where is this observer you speak of, in QM? What we can observe is different from what was there before we observed (entangled with) it.
>>524070102>There's also the whole problem of there not being a single non-biblical reference or documentation of jesus' miracles.How much documentation do you expect from 2000+ years ago? The fact that we have Biblical references at all is amazing. People seem to take the dumbest, most easily answered objections to Christianity at face value and never bother to look for the responses.
>>524061965Fedora tippers are to atheism what the westboro baptist church is to Christianity. You don't understand atheism if you think atheists are like that. Atheists don't give a fuck about any of this shit.
>>524070243Consciousness is measured by empirical science... we record our lived experiences and share the knowledge down to our descendants. If you want to confine our understanding of the natural universe as something we can never fully grasp or measure and continue to stay ignorant, that's fine. But don't drag down the scientific world into the dark by using words like divine and godlike to explain things you or we haven't fully measured or labeled or understand. It's not healthy mentally to just stop searching for truths.
>>524070259Or perhaps, efficiency of action? It's almost the same, subtracting kinetic energy from potential energy rather than adding them.
>>524070461>QM is rigid How is pure chance rigid? What is chance? What is random? Explain that mathematically and I might get back to you.
>>524062540This is just your existential cope.
>>524061331Retard failed basic chemistry
>>524061472You worship a kike on a stick.
>>524070426I am not a famous physicist, but you can probably trust that what I say is consistent with what they say.
>>524061331Anthropic principle.Roll an infinite amount of chances, and we end up existing in a universe that allows us to exist.
>>524061472jewish atheists are called non pracitising jews
>>524070586Get back to me if you want. Randomness is information we don't have. We won't know it until we entangle with it.
>>524061331So a jewish sandnigger god creates it?
>>524069070Try spinning the carny trick of catching a fish with a coin in it's mouth into something. >>524069471>asking to not introduce made up unexplainable bullshit is what's really incomprehensibleok Zayn
>>524070730And how do you know there were an infinite number of chances to begin with? Where did the original materials and substances come from?
>>524065373>>524070730
>>524070836Nobody knows
>>524061472t.follow fable stolen by jewish people.t. suck the cock of Saul the jew, writer of the new testament.They are NOT the gods of your people. Are you a shitskin?
>>524070185Why would i want to hurt myself? That's retarded. I must have been tricked now already.
>>524069824Learning makes one more like God, and the consequences of transgression permit one to learn more. The degree to which this is beneficial is open to interpretation. >>524070136Yeah he said that he didn't come to overthrow the law because he didn't want to be killed by the pharisees, and then he was anyway. The entire old testament is demiurge shit, as is every one of Saul's letters.
>>524071039Maybe you were sent back against your will. That seems to be the cause of most reincarnations, from what I've read. If you describe everything that happens to you as a trick, maybe that's something for you to fix, just a suggestion.
>>524067349>That is the common view of many near death experience reports.There is a soul only in the atomist way, it dies with the body.Worse, not being pulled by gravity, eavery dead soul is left there in the cold space, while our solar system and the whole universe move.
>>524061895is that why the scrubbing bubbles mascot looks like that?
>>524071188>maybe that's something for you to fixI wish i wasn't made broken to begin with...
>>524071066So this man who said that it was so important to just say the truth, let yes be yes and no be no, lied about something so important because he was afraid of the Pharisees, even though he felt the strength to call them hypocrites and vipers?And then he got killed by the Romans, read the text not the old Catholic interpretation from before Bibles were available to the hoi polloi.
>>524061331Atheists don't think anything they aren't real. Only people who believe in God are real.
>>524071305I think we're made in the image and likeness of God, but with a lot of pollution to get rid of to come closer to that potential.
>>524071340This nigger says Jesus was killed by the Romans.
>>524062182Never been proven
>>524061331OPs picture is an example how geometry of atomic and molecular structure results in microscopic symmetries.We have physics and chemistry that explain these phenomena. Due to symmetries, humans also found certain elements (such as radioactive elements), structures and were able to anticipate special fundamental particles, based on working models and theories.Geometry and symmetry are massive fundamentals of the universe and this why pattern recognition is so strong, because you will find patterns repeating itself, from atomic, to microscopic to macroscopic scales.
>>524070700>you can probably trust that what I say is consistent with what they say.Right, so men can pregnant too, right? Yeah no. I don't think so.>Randomness is information we don't have. We won't know it until we entangle with it.No, randomness cannot be defined within rigid Newtonian physics as it doesn't mathematically exist. When a computer simulates random it just moves the burden of RNG onto you. Where does your random come from?
>>524069956It would go a long way if people made an effort to articulate what they understand by "God" in neutral and intuitively accessible language, before fighting over its existence. Pick any number of observant members of any religion, ask them in the presence of another and they'll regurgitate the official canon of that religion. Ask them individually and probe their conception of "God" and you'll find that, if it wasn't for their religon's limitation of language, you'd probably agree with most of it.It's in these very personal encounters that most "religious" people re-discover their faith as they understand that "God" as the incomprehensible "All" is virtually irreconcilable with the "God" of institutionalized, canonized, self-serving and self-insertion riddled fanfiction of usurious "clergy" -- that religion is ultimately a tool that can be used for good and bad alike.Religion ultimately isn't to be conflated with faith -- the very worst of the former merely commodifies the latter, captures it in brand names and slogans. Imagine you were only able to communicate in terms of commericals and advertisment -- what a miserable life that'd be, whew.Consider "God" in the likeness to the word. Just like a word spoken out loud one to many times, that eludes your cognition and ability to articulate, "God" as the incomprehensible -- as an image -- loses its resolution the more you think of it in discrete terms: the more you strongly interprete it in your favor or the misfortune of someone else. It's as if you're creeping up to an infinitely large print, until you're standing infront of disjointed pixels.(cont.)
>>524071598Furthermore, "God" as a language -- your language, the sum total of your experience -- you may be able transcribe, but can never hope to adequately translate. Just like any other language: conceptions in one language have no equal in others. Like the 52ish(?) conceptions of love in Sanskrit, that can't be captured in the half a dozen of other languages. A simple, self-evident argument that's hardly worth a single sentence in one language, may force you into paraphrased litanies that invite interpretation devoid of reason and merit.If you will, "religious" people are like "ghetto youth" genuinely failed by the education systems and their parents: their vocubularly is very narrow, very limited and limiting. If you wanted to teach them, to pick them up where they've been abandoned and walk them towards a meaningful life (= teach them skills), you'd waste your time -- and their time -- if you instantly blasted them with sophisticated verbiage, telling them that everything they are doing is wrong, but, just like the system you're trying to pull them out off, never why. For anyone else, well -- you know it yourself: While you understand the English language and can apply the most literal by-the-book reading if you so fancy, you may also harbor a certain bias and think in terms of connotations (i.e.: choice of words) first and universal function (i.e.: ideas) second -- if at all.(cont)
>>524071624What is "God"? Everyone's whinging on about it, but no one explains what they mean by it. Everyone's passionately arguing about it, pretending to read each other's minds. What is "God" to you? Do you subscribe to abrahamic "monotheism"? Indoeuropean heno/pantheism? Do you believe it to be an entity, a neutral "Common Denominator" or "creative, generative principle"? Is that "God" of yours omnipotent, omniscient and so on? Is it subject to any rules? Is it creator or steward? Is it strictly infallible or can it choose to make mistakes? Does it have free will and agency? Is its perspective on and conceptions of the seperation between it and everything else anything like yours? Is it in comprehensible or incomprehensible, but experiental and perceptible?What do you understand by "God", anon? I wish people made an effort to speak their mind and their language, not that of "clergy".Language is first and foremost enabling you to articulate questions -- not answers. There exist infinitely many questions to which plain language itself will never be able to provide any meaningful answers to. The singular most universal expression of faith is the question, not any particular answer.(cont.)
>>524071263>not being pulled by gravity, eavery dead soul is left there in the cold space, while our solar system and the whole universe move.But that soul may still be subject to quantum mechanics. As we keep hearing from the physicists, they cannot unify gravitational theory with QM; they are annoyingly (to them) independent.
>>524061331I'm sympathetic to religion and believe in God, but this argument against atheism is pathetic. The evidence in favor of evolution is just overwhelming, and I don't think we have a God that would put fake dinosaur bones in the earth just to test our faith by lying to us about the true structure of our reality. I don't think the implementation details are really that important to Him as how we relate to other people and the moral choices we make while alive.Evolution is the ultimate act of faith by all living things. The desire to live, the hope that continuing life, through yourself and your descendants, is more worthwhile than just surrendering to oblivion. I see God's fingerprints on everything about the substrate of reality, how what's true gets chosen (it DOES get chosen) but our own bodies and minds are what we got for following His rules and playing His game for ~3 billion years. Souls and spirit are above this.
>>524071669I'd say there is a spectrum of comprehension, from lowest to greatest:>atheism ("Nothing". Unadultered "RNG". Plain, abstract language -- dissolution of experience and meaning.)>monotheism (One "God". "RNG" through the whims of a singular stand-in, an egregore created by few. Language as tool of tribal governance.)>polytheism (Many "Gods". Balance and natural/social order through benelovent egregores, manifested by many. Language as tool of civilizational curation.)>henotheism (All "Gods". Egregores as emanations of something greater. Language as a tool of intercultural mediation, rehabilitation and guidance.)>pantheism (All. The 'Common Denominator' or 'creative, generative principle'. Language as a tool of inquiry beyond the veil of human experience.)Think about the people who argue that the advent of microscopy disproved the concept of Aether. They've found a bajillion little critters and stopped their inquiry alltogether -- they didn't make any effort whatsoever to understand what animates "matter" afterwards. Now, there exist all these bajillion things you could device names for and describe, even on occassion ostensibly comprehend (read: take educated guesses), but none can individually bring you any closer to a conclusion.(cont.)
>>524061331This happened for the sole purpose of creating me to deal with kikes, it's been scientifically proven to me in a dream.
>>524071717How do all the things know how to interact with each other, to "be themselves" at the macro (e.g.: the "physical world"), and how do you know to interprete them at the micro (e.g.: your mind)? More importantly: what compels you to catalogue them, to experience them in the first place?Let's say you've found more building blocks and types of glue, particles and forces. Yes, let's say existence is nothing but electrical goo (an euphemism for all different flavors of "physicality" I cannot be bothered to list), then electrical goo is quintessentially parsing and describing itself through you -- and whatever you perceive as the "other". The "other" being the thing that allows you to be you, the thing(s) that allow the electrical goo to assume a unique perspective through you.If you managed to pad out your physicality to the point of being able to break down the sensation of wind on your skin down to the quantum-whatever, would you be any closer to understanding why you are experiencing it and why it blows your mind (for the first time, which would be a continuum if you didn't get "used to it")? Look at the black mirror right infront of you. It's a bajillion little lights, flickering on and off, conjuring up however many worlds you care to visit with it. The world around you, in turn, may be considered nothing but an infinite sea of eyes, blinking, darting around, shifting focus, conjuring up as many worlds as you care to acknowledge.Moreso, you are, too, nothing but an amalgamation of a bajillion little critters and motive forces -- cells, bacteria, metabolism, emotions -- ostensibly governed by a single mind. The world around you is, too, just an amalgamation of bajillion little critters and you're one of them, and so on.(cont.)
>>524071775It's fair to say, that experience is like crack for "God", whatever "God" may be. Without the backdrop of the "other" there's no relation, no difference. You could say that there are five laws.>Unity (= to be)>Duality (= to perceive difference; sentience)>Trinity (= to comprehend relation; cognition)>Attraction (= to seek experience; agency and free will)>Sacrifice (= to change perspective, yours and that of orhers; causality)The medium can only conjure up imagery, if it's being agitated. A string you don't pluck doesn't produce a sound -- "becoming one again" is comparable to sensory deprivation. Resonance is not a force, but a principle applicable to all mediating creation and destruction alike.Too much of something, even yourself, without the dampening of the "other", is just as bad as too much of that "other". Both eventually culminate in a resonance catastrope -- the true death: stagnation, the regression of experience to soulless information and finally commodification.(cont.)
>>524061472> muh genderless magical sky daddyyou are an absolute retard and will remain that way until the day you inevitably expire and turn to atomic dust
>>524071822It is your faith -- not "faith" A, B or C derived from any checklist, flow- or bingochart, sermon, scripture or other human -- that mediates your life, its trajectory and quality. A good religion teaches you pecsisely to not take everything at absolute face value, verbatim or literally. It tries to approximate the incomprehensible to the best of its ability and admits (and accepts) its limitations. It hands you tools to refine your faith, not craft it. Even the worst of the worst can yield guidance, when you make an effort to control your own language.Take the Christian conceptions of "Heaven" and "Hell", at their core they constitute no more and no less than an archetypal conception: a kharmic system.For a Christian, still in the custody of "clergy" and its uninspired language, these may really be distant dimensions of eternal reward and punishment doled out by curiously-anthropomorhpic, clearly comprehensible arbiters of "faith".For an Atheist it may just be an archaic means of subjugation at best and a fairy tale at worst.Now for you, let me tip my fedora, too:>Your life is nothing but a series of deaths. Perceptual, conceptual, emotional, physical -- cellular, if you will.>Every series of events you may experience is nothing but a rollercoaster of afterlifes.>Your actions in your life, the conscious 'now', create the "Hell" or "Heaven" of your death, in the unconscious 'then'.Any kharmic system communicates fundamental, well... axioms, I guess, of difference and relation, choice and personal responsibility. Virtually all religions feature one or another iteration of it. The Asian religions can almost be read literally without compromise in this particular case -- "Judaism" too, to great extent.(cont.)
>>524061331Yeah, they're gay.>For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:>Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.Romans 1:20-21
>>524071882Each and every single religion postulates a "place or state of being" in which you dissolve into the 'thing' you've been staring at the whole time: yourself. A point at which you do not need guidance anymore -- a point at which you become the guide.Yet, believing a human to be infallible is to say he that doesn't, shouldn't and cannot exist. It is to dismiss his hardship and his choices, his "divinity" -- to burden him with the errors of your ways and the responsibility to magically fix them (and you, in the process). It is to blame him for your (in)actions.>I need not lift a finger, someone else will, and if he fails the heruclean task of working change, in a world filled to brim with deaf and blind arbiters of "good" who stubbornly refuse to be mute, I'll curse him and wait for the next.Illustrated with a linguistic sleight of hand:>Moschaich The Messiah, the avatar and personification of wishes, dreams, hopes, wants and needs of a (single) people -- some ominous figure to be waited for. >MosaicA glorious whole composed of many different parts, unity through plurality -- some thing to be worked towards. (cont.)
>>524062394look up how the electron transport chain and oxidative phosphorylation works. ATP synthase is like a little turbine, it’s fascinating
>>524071919See, language is an incredible powerful tool -- more than that actually. Language isn't just a system of squiggles and noises. It should be understood as an organism. It shapes your mind as much as your body -- any thought conceived of in that language, any word uttered in that language. From the contractions of your body necessary to articulate and accentuate through intonation and cadence and so on, to the concepts and principles unique to any one language.Bad language (e.g.: propaganda and dogma) is parasitic, it consumes energy just for itself -- it greatly limits your perception and understanding of the world. Good language is kommensal or even symbiotic, it may consume energy but does so very efficiently, whilst greatly expandibg your perception and understanding of the world (and yourself).Dead languages are special in that learning them requires you to either have innate talent or an already great proficiency in multiple successor languages and knowledge about relations and histories of the people who lived them. But I digress. Make an effort to control your language, don't let yourself be controlled by it. Ultimately "God", as a stillborn egregore, is the best example by which to demonstrate that most people operate on semantic playdough provided by third-parties, and why you shouldn't.(cont.)
>>524071576I did not say men can get pregnant, I hope your reading comprehension in Dutch is better.There's not a physicist alive that thinks Newtonian physics describes all physical phenomena. It comes nowhere close to describing how a transistor works. It applies to certain phenomena at the scale of most things we experience directly, but for example gravity is different at very large scales, and QM applies at very small scales.
>>524071965With that said, let's loop back to "religious" people.>Why do they need to believe their canonically incomprehensible deity to care about them specficially? >Why do they think its perception and conception of the "seperation" between it and its creation is anything like theirs? >Why do they think its metrics of "good and evil" and "benelovence and cruelty" are anything like theirs? Let's ignore the connotations of modern language for once. Generally speaking: if your deity is a common denominator and creative, generative principle and one -- or THE -- motive force of nature: why interprete it strongly in your favor or the misfortune of someone else? You can acknowledge other and more tangible forces of nature for what they are without trivializing, scorning, anthropomorphizing or straight up idolizing and worshipping them, why not "God"? Likewise, if you dedicated your life to a deity and its scripture, then why would you never even try to learn the languages of what's left of the source materials?It's simple: religion has regressed to fortune telling for a profit. Clergy, the psychics, cold-read and sell people on the idea that there's a "ghost" in the room --telling them what they want to hear, not what they are ought to hear. Then clergy proceeds to make its newfound flock (co-)dependant on its mediation and the dictate of that "ghost". Eventually the grift culminates into an open-range mental asylum, commonly referred to as Clownworld. Now, whether the "ghost" exists is completely irrelevant to the grift itself. (cont.)
>>524071941Nanomachines son
>>524072004How would you try to reason people out of the grift without divorcing the psychics and their conception of that "ghost" from the idea itself?Say, you burned the scripture -- you'd just make people forget the magic trick. When then another clown comes to town and performs the magic trick again, everyone will clap again and you're back to square one. You wouldn't resolve anything. Worse: you'd surrender the great tool that is this "ghost", yet again. If in a few centuries from now globohomo boils all scripture down to a single command "Obey!", repeated over and over, to facilitate its "universal religion", you'll still find great people who, against all odds, manage to salvage this scripture and the idea of this "ghost". I am sure you wouldn't credit globohomo and its "universal religion" for the good deeds of these great people and their mascot "ghost(s)" then, nor would you haphazardly conflate their mascot "ghost(s)" with globohomo's stillborn egregore -- so, why do it now? Likewise: why strongly interprete, in your favor or the misfortune of someone else, the very thing that is (per clerical and head-canon) beyond your comprehension? (cont.)
>>524062260>My ignorance is better than yours,
>>524071822>A string you don't pluck doesn't produce a soundA string doesn't hurt when you pluck it.
>>524061331Its called natural selection.
>>524070889There is zero evidence of divine intervention or intelligent design other than maybe our universe's fundamental constants.So even if the universe has an intelligent creator, it's incredibly unlikely he intervened in our evolution when there are probably trillions of other Earth-like planets in the universe.
>>524072041I don't understand why "God" can't be handled like any other force of nature -- without scorn, dismissal or reverence -- and why it's being anthropomorphized to begin with. You may aswell just adopt a pantheistic conception of it, consider it to be a Common Denominator or generative and creative principle and do away with the tribal, monotheistic circlejerking alltogether.You ultimately can argue in the terms of another's language, without conceding ground. Whatever you may make of the verbose digitial shitstain that is this blogpost of mine, I want you to understand that the conceptions of "God">as curiously-anthropomorphic and clearly comprehensible, at times petty and jealous, often judgemental, obstinate, hypocrite and moral, well-meaning and mischievous, occasionally malicious busy-bodyand>as common denominator or creative, generative principle that's truely incomprehensible, but ultimately perceptible and experientalaren't necessarily mutually exclusive. By reconciling them you can resolve virtually all contradictions that you'd typically find in (monotheistic) "religion". Suddenly free will matters, and creation in its entirety, as a staging ground for the godhead's quest for experience, becomes infinitely more valueable to the faithful. Suddenly you'll realize why Clownworld is seemingly spiraling out of control since the advent of parasocial surrogacy and digital caretaking: if experience had a nutritional value for "God", no matter at what instance you may observe it, then today's formulaic, regurgitated second-hand experience and algorithmic slop constitutes hyperprocessed nutritional blanks.(cont.)
>>524071717Abraham walked away from polytheism to monotheism, according to the most foundational popular text of monotheism. Was he just a slow learner? It's OK to say yes, or no.
>>524071869>atheists when you tell them about godNUH UH IT'S FAKE AND CRINGE BECAUSE SCIENCE SAYS SO>atheists when you tell them about the Noosphere theoryuh uh well uh no that's uh you see uh just a theory uh science can't always be right haha
>>524072192After all: if someone has to lie to convince you of the merits of their vision, then either their vision is not worth pursuing or they aren't fit to champion it. Now, when is someone lying? Everyone ultimately has regurgitated falsehoods and half-truths taught to them with unwavering confidence and zeal -- you and I have too, most certainly. So, when does one lie? When one stops approximating truth, that is: when one stops asking questions. Don't stop asking questions. The more questions you ask the more resilient to dictate and bullshit you'll become, the easier you'll break the habbit of repeating it.You don't need a manual for faith, nor clergy to read it to you.
>>524072306YOU ARE SO CLOSE AND YET SO FAR FROM THE TRUTH AND I KNOW WHY YOU LIE! ALSO THE CAPTCHA IS TOO EASY IT’S ALWAYS 4 AT THE END...
>>524062306Well gog and magog haven't made their move yet, so there's no way he could've come back sooner.
>>524072306>Don't stop asking questions.But doesn't that mean we will never get the answer?
>>524072237> It's OK to say yes, or no.A loaded question is always an open question.
>>524072180>other than maybe our universe's fundamental constants.And where did those come from, you stupid nigger?
>>524071982>I did not say men can get pregnantThe people you believe do. Not really a reliable source if you ask me but okay. >but for example gravity is different at very large scales, and QM applies at very small scales.You still didn't answer the question, though. Why does random exist within our rigid physical world? Brownian motion has seemingly no pattern, the measured state of an entangled particle upon observation seemingly has no pattern to it either. How could that even exist if everything is truly deterministic?
>>524071890How the fuck do you insane dumbasses kneel in front of an idealized book character who is always depicted as gigachad and have the nerve to call anyone else gay. Blind retard.
>>524062043can you believe this guy called out retardation>>524062915and this idiot immediately did the retardationPOTTERY
>>524071427>but with a lot of pollution to get rid ofIn other words, we were made worse than we could have been. It's this pollution that is the cause of our suffering. If only we would have been made properly... But we weren't.
>>524061331>causality behind itgiven enough time it's easy to mistake casualty with causalty.
>>524063621this is exactly where i'm at with things but I also know it may be part of our purpose to draw people in too. I hope the way I live my life can be an example and do that, because I'm bitter enough to not be real inspired to actively do it.
>>524061331Not atheist but>for no reason and there is no causality behind itGeometry figures are fundamental and are governed by conservation laws
>>524071427You were made by the union of an egg and sperm. No extra characters needed, just two.
>>524070833you think I give a shit if you believe in God or not? I know God exists since I see God everyday and I speak to God everyday. must be very lonely in that head of yours living godless.
>>524072411>all capsAt least you're being passionate.>>524072468>But doesn't that mean we will never get the answer?>the answerAnon, if there existed 'the answer', life would have no purpose. You can (and should) try to edge towards better approximations -- in that regard you're at the mercy of the same mechanism as modern LLM, but you have one deceisive advantage: you can break out of the Einheitstrott and choose your own training data, make own experiences that aren't dependant on dictate and dogma.
>>524072922LMAO at peasant descended genetic shit inventing fantasy doms to give them "purpose" and lonely faggots >>524073036 inventing Mediterranean fantasy men to get through the day.
>>524072944Where do the laws come from?
>>524061895I wanna stick my johnson in it
>>524066206Ahem>Why do blacks seem to commit so many more violent crimes?>How could humans have experienced enough divergent evolution to make us look completely different, yet our brains were not affected?>What is a woman?>Why do twin studies show that IQ is heritable?>What happened to the claim that 5 million non-jews were killed in the Holocaust?>Why did they revise the individual death tolls down at each camp, but retain the total number of dead jews?>Why is there women's chess?>Why are 13 year old girls able to get pregnant of they're not supposed to have sex for another 5 years?>Why do so many gay men have stories about childhood sexual abuse?>Why are an unusual amount of mothers to trans children bipolar?>...
>>524062182I wish i could give a reward to this guy
>>524067146"I don't want to think for myself, I want to outsource it to someone who believes what I believe so I'm not even challenged"
>>524073210did your tranny boyfriend leave you for Jamal or something? you seems very angry
>>524062306>>524062667>>524065131>>524069715>>524070696>>524071869Incredible speed of execution by the larpagan squad today. At least try to space them out to make it more believable guys.
>>524073465>average IQ of turkey is the same as mexicochecks out
>>524067317Why does your graph stop at "midwit" and not show how it curves back towards "very important".
>>524073534Kick all the Kurds and other subhumans given citizenship, then redo the test
>>524073534likelihood of you being White posting under USA flag is less than someone posting under Poojeet flag.
>>524061331yeah, that's clearly the doings of some old dude in the sky.
>>524073399>Hey stop! bad goy. We cant question those things
>>524070011what they say is "the wave function evolves deterministically" but that's almost always a post-hoc justification-- by their own theories, there is always a remote chance of a one-off strange event that throws everything into chaos. What they mean is that ON AVERAGE, things progress deterministically. It's basically a linguistic sleight of hand to force their oldschool newtonian understanding on things, to squeeze that uncomfortable ambiguity out of the equation. So they don't have to accept or really even think about how vast the rules of even local reality might be, and all the "absurd" conclusions from that (which nonetheless are known to be true in the copenhagen interpretation, but they just kind of handwave that away, assume that there must be something wrong with copenhagen but just accept it as a "useful fiction" when it may be the most fundamentally true theory they work with on a daily basis rofl)
>>524061331>a chemical does literally the only thing it can do>random american flag on an anonymous board>oh wow it's impossible look at these simplified 3D renderings i downloaded from reddit 5 minutes ago>mfw
>>524073481Whites are the biggest share of atheists in the US, though Asians have a higher rate, the probability of a poster being atheist and Asian is much lower due to their smaller total population.>>524073481My faith is that you have it in you to sometime make it through the day without worshiping an idealized fantasy man book character. >>524073573It doesn't.
>>524072554A creator doesn't mean our man-made religions are anything more than just figments of our imagination. I don't believe god answers our prayers or has modified the universe since it first began. Can you change the outcome of a computer program by changing it's source code while it is running? The answer is no.
>>524074125>It doesn't.You think 100-110 IQ shows geniuses? Most of the people on this board (with souls) are in the 125-140 range, and you leave them out, because it suits your purposes.
OP is a faggot constructing strawmen. Atheism is not a set of belief systems. It is a lack of belief in supernatural sky daddies. Theist:>I see order. It must have been a magical sky daddy who made this.Atheist: >I see order. Interesting. We should study this further.
>>524074248>soulsSee >>524063404. There is no "you" besides your expression in physical reality. "You" can't be separate from the sex you were born as dumbass 85 IQ troon.
>>524074125lol you're butthurt. that little voice in your head (which you obviously don't have) is God!
>>524074470>thought is really that handsomely depicted levantine majestic man whispering to youvery gay
>>524074621you bore me, tranny
>>524074463way to deny the only thing you could ever possibly have direct experience of
>>524061331>>524074319Theists seem to be the reason scientists end up overwhelmingly Democrat. They become radicalized by the manipulation and utter stupidity of skydaddy worshippers. That is why scientists worship transgenderism, mRNA vaccines, and other degenerate technologies out of spite for the theists.
>>524072131i.e. scienceSLOP for goy cattle.
>>524061331The guy believes in a angry magic bearded old voyeur and want to talk about things hahaha
Molecular machines definitely were designed by aliens (or gods for religious freaks) because it checks all the boxes of well thought out designed thing:1) Precise arrangement of parts - all components are organized in a specific way.2) Functional purpose – the parts work together to achieve a clear, specific function.3) Encoded information – the object contains symbolic or structured instructions.4) Improbable natural origin – no known natural process can produce it.
